What's your favorite protein powder? What do you eat to hit your protein macros?

[Shogon]

I've never been a fitness guy except for basically the past year... maybe ever so slightly less than a year... I'm in better shape than in my mid 20s but I'm still working on my physique.. it's hard... I fail and binge eat shit like cheezits all the time...

As far as protein powder goes, here's my guilty pleasure...

https://www.amazon.com/BSN-SYNTHA-6-Micellar-Servings-Packaging/dp/B0015QWPJC/
Syntha 6 Banana flavored... this shit is so good I can drink it for recreation. I know for sure Syntha isn't the healthiest but I haven't had a bad flavored one from them yet... probably going to get cancer from this later on, but hey!

Most protein powders suck ass in terms of taste.


Otherwise I'm always eating a ton of chicken breast and eggs. Gets boring af especially when you've been eating it for 6+ months but it does seem to be the easiest route and it does wonders for your waist line if you keep your carbs and calories relatively in check.

[rawimpact]

Myprotein Strawberry Cream

Not the best quality protein but best bang for your buck IMO. I generally mix it with real fruit peanut butter and almond milk.

I use to be a gym rat before settling down and spent a lot of money on fitness and nutrients like isolate protein, bcaa etc.

[warriorfan]

The way to make them taste better is milk but after awhile it started taking a toll on me. Now I went away from dairy and it’s a lot better. You can make them better with peanut butter and bananas but they still are not great. Just chug. My cheat for when I don’t get enough protein is prep poaching chicken breasts with a few seasonings and then have it in the fridge ready to go. It’s pretty good and you can do anything with it. Chicken can get a little old at times but it’s the best for you.

https://www.gnc.com/best-sellers-shop-all/490027.html

[Wally450]

Anything chocolate is fine with me. Usually blend it with milk and a tablespoon of peanut butter.

I usually eat eggs for breakfast, some sort of chicken for lunch and usually kind of loose for dinner. Anything's on the menu for dinner.

[Norcaliblunt]

Raw bison liver blended with raw bone marrow, raw milk, raw fertile eggs and fresh raw whey.

[hateraid]

I left Dymatize and started my own supplement company 3 years ago. We're actually doing very well. I'd let ISH know but I've lost the trust of the members here and fear sabotage.
I'll say this...most supplement companies are contracted out to a manufacturer to make their products. I source out a major manufacturer to make mine. So really, most companies use the exact same protein. There are only variences in how it is filtered which affect how it absorbs. Then the flavor chemists tinker with the flavoring. So really most companies are virtually the same.

[jstern]

In a sense protein powder is gimmicky, because most people already consume enough protein from food. And the excess protein turns into fat, including fat in your belly, in 4 to 5 hours.

It's great for people like myself who don't eat much. But I also had to cut down on the amount of protein I consumed, because in combination with the low amount of sugar that I consume, I was suspecting that the extra protein was leading to low sugar headaches. It's too complicated to explain.

[highwhey]

In a sense protein powder is gimmicky, because most people already consume enough protein from food. And the excess protein turns into fat, including fat in your belly, in 4 to 5 hours.

It's great for people like myself who don't eat much. But I also had to cut down on the amount of protein I consumed, because in combination with the low amount of sugar that I consume, I was suspecting that the extra protein was leading to low sugar headaches. It's too complicated to explain.

interesting. can you please elaborate?

[hateraid]

In a sense protein powder is gimmicky, because most people already consume enough protein from food. And the excess protein turns into fat, including fat in your belly, in 4 to 5 hours.

It's great for people like myself who don't eat much. But I also had to cut down on the amount of protein I consumed, because in combination with the low amount of sugar that I consume, I was suspecting that the extra protein was leading to low sugar headaches. It's too complicated to explain.

Excess protein powder does not convert to fat. Because it is already broken down when filtered. Excess amounts that can't be assimilated converts to amonia. You pee it out. But generally in most circumstances most people don't eat enough protein. Fat mostly comes from excessive high glycemic carbs that is unused as fuel.

[hateraid]

Most belly fat also comes from high stress. It's the fight or flight response that cause your body to develop a shield around your midsection because it's the most vulnerable.

[jstern]

Excess protein powder does not convert to fat. Because it is already broken down when filtered. Excess amounts that can't be assimilated converts to amonia. You pee it out. But generally in most circumstances most people don't eat enough protein. Fat mostly comes from excessive high glycemic carbs that is unused as fuel.

I would like to see an article on that. Not because I don't believe it, but simply because I want to know more. And I hope it's true.

But also, when I say that I'm trying to consume less protein, it's not from the powder, but from other sources. And excess protein, at least from regular sources turn into body fat.

This is the article that I read a few months ago.


A 2012 study at Oxford University found that the fat in your food ends up on your waistline in less than four hours. Carbohydrate and protein take a little longer, because they need to be converted into fat in the liver first and it takes nine calories of protein or carbohydrate to make 1g of fat.

Altogether, that doughnut has about 225 calories. Around 100 of those come from the 11g of fat in the doughnut, which will be on your waistline by teatime. Then the 125 calories of carbs and protein will be converted into another 14g of body fat sometime tomorrow, unless you hit the gym after work and burn it off again.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-long-before-extra-calories-show-on-the-scales/

I said 5 hours because I knew it was a little longer than the 4, but it's actually sometime tomorrow.

Apparently the excess non protein powder protein, will turn into the same amount of fat per gram as the carbohydrates. Taking the same amount of time. Because of the little amount of carbs that I eat, if I were to eat a donut now, I would get a massive headache tomorrow (my sugar levels would dramatically go up from a low sugar state, and then down.) But cutting down on the protein seems to have helped a bit. Though it's just a theory of mine, what I'm experimenting. I'm not 100% certain.


interesting. can you please elaborate?

I did in the next post. Interesting, like that Kobrick guy.

[hateraid]

I would like to see an article on that. Not because I don't believe it, but simply because I want to know more. And I hope it's true.

But also, when I say that I'm trying to consume less protein, it's not from the powder, but from other sources. And excess protein, at least from regular sources turn into body fat.

This is the article that I read a few months ago.



https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-long-before-extra-calories-show-on-the-scales/

I said 5 hours because I knew it was a little longer than the 4, but it's actually sometime tomorrow.

Apparently the excess non protein powder protein, will turn into the same amount of fat per gram as the carbohydrates. Taking the same amount of time. Because of the little amount of carbs that I eat, if I were to eat a donut now, I would get a massive headache tomorrow (my sugar levels would dramatically go up from a low sugar state, and then down.) But cutting down on the protein seems to have helped a bit. Though it's just a theory of mine, what I'm experimenting. I'm not 100% certain.



I did in the next post. Interesting, like that Kobrick guy.

You have to base it on total caloric intake first and foremost. But if you're talking protein powders, by nature it has to convert to amino acids and the excess into amonia first. Then fat. But protein powders assimilate so quickly most excess converts to waste product because it you're digestive window can't assimilate it that quickly. If you're talking a slow digesting protein (in excess) then that may convert to fat. But you got to realize it's got to be converted to glucose first. In which your body looks for carbs as a primary source of fuel. Protein as a secondary source and fat into ketones. That study has so many varients to it it doesn't tell the basic laws of digestion. I don't need to research, it's in my textbook when I studied food and nutrition.

[hateraid]

In any case the exact opposite can be said in the fact that to convert 1 gram of protein into muscle burns upwards of 4 calories. Optimal protein intake can turn your body into a metobolic machine. The basic principles of modern dieting go by this process.

Not trying to debate you here or anything. There could be other underlying issues. So many varients. It's just very easy to blame one thing when there could be other things involved. Low testosterone. Stress. Yo yo diets. Not saying you in particular. Lot's of factors involved in fat storage

[ZenMaster]

I left Dymatize and started my own supplement company 3 years ago. We're actually doing very well. I'd let ISH know but I've lost the trust of the members here and fear sabotage.
I'll say this...most supplement companies are contracted out to a manufacturer to make their products. I source out a major manufacturer to make mine. So really, most companies use the exact same protein. There are only variences in how it is filtered which affect how it absorbs. Then the flavor chemists tinker with the flavoring. So really most companies are virtually the same.

It's interesting how a lot of business works in this way, with the stores more or less only being "fronts" for a few manufactures/providers. Glad to hear your company doing well. Can I ask, do you outsource your marketing in any way or do you handle that? If so, do you do specific stuff to differentiate the message or is it all about beating the price of competitors?

Personally I've always used Whey gold standard, I think it tastes great and is always accessible in stores where I live, so have never had any reason to try anything else.

[Norcaliblunt]

Supplements are a complete rip off. Just eat some raw organ meat like liver, testicle, kidney, brain, pancreas, and drink fresh pressed vegetable juices. Also consume real liquid cows whey. That will give you all the vitamins and minerals you need. All indigenous hunter gatherer tribes eat organ meat and a lot of it raw. You know real men hunting, surviving, and living in the wild. Not like you pansy ass dudes pumping yourself full of fruity flavored powders and pills. Lol. Y’all are almost as bad as the soyials.

[Rooster]

Excess protein powder does not convert to fat. Because it is already broken down when filtered. Excess amounts that can't be assimilated converts to amonia. You pee it out. But generally in most circumstances most people don't eat enough protein. Fat mostly comes from excessive high glycemic carbs that is unused as fuel.

Almost all food are carbon based so the total calories intake from protein, fats, carbs play the definitive role. If you can’t burn them, the excess calorie will converted into fats. If you eat less than your TDEE than the body will get the fat somewhere in your body as fuel to burn it. The amount of protein intake becomes important when you build muscle but you still should consume (preferably 300 cal ) over your TDEE. This is why precise nutrition comes into play and the workout that is progressive overload for gains.

[hateraid]

Supplements are a complete rip off. Just eat some raw organ meat like liver, testicle, kidney, brain, pancreas, and drink fresh pressed vegetable juices. Also consume real liquid cows whey. That will give you all the vitamins and minerals you need. All indigenous hunter gatherer tribes eat organ meat and a lot of it raw. You know real men hunting, surviving, and living in the wild. Not like you pansy ass dudes pumping yourself full of fruity flavored powders and pills. Lol. Y’all are almost as bad as the soyials.

"I hate bro science! Grrr"
If you really believe all that then you really don't have a clue. But please, come back with how my kid got bullied by BLM you woke inbred

[Ghost1]

https://thumb-p4.xhcdn.com/a/DF5PavhFaEAOBFjEm4LW3A/000/163/569/384_450.gif


I don't want to waste time on blending

[hateraid]

It's interesting how a lot of business works in this way, with the stores more or less only being "fronts" for a few manufactures/providers. Glad to hear your company doing well. Can I ask, do you outsource your marketing in any way or do you handle that? If so, do you do specific stuff to differentiate the message or is it all about beating the price of competitors?

Right now marketing is a breeze. The beauty of marketing is you can acquire a ton of influencers for free. The like you product and exploit it on social media. All other marketing dollars I use goes towards certifications or direct to retailers and purchase ad space on their websites. My in with companies were easy as I've effectively built that trust and relationship so it was an easy entry across the nation. I'm not a hundred million company like Dymatize yet..but I did a million in sales my first year, 3 million my second, and this year, despite covid on pace to hit 7 million. I have the blueprint so the transition is great.
I will say one thing is although we outsource, we have a lot of control in what goes in and formulas. The premise of my line was to create a line that was based on athletes approves for drug testing and clinical grade. It's a rarely used model as most companies do focus on advertising and flavor


Personally I've always used Whey gold standard, I think it tastes great and is always accessible in stores where I live, so have never had any reason to try anything else.
It's a middling protein that charges premium. You pay so much because they use BB.com as a platform to advertise.

[Shogon]

What powders do you recommend? @hateraid

[hateraid]

Almost all food are carbon based so the total calories intake from protein, fats, carbs play the definitive role. If you can’t burn them, the excess calorie will converted into fats. If you eat less than your TDEE than the body will get the fat somewhere in your body as fuel to burn it. The amount of protein intake becomes important when you build muscle but you still should consume (preferably 300 cal ) over your TDEE. This is why precise nutrition comes into play and the workout that is progressive overload for gains.

Well the topic is protein powder and converting to fat. In which this case it's very difficult. In order for it to convert to fat it first had to convert to amino acids, them the unused amino acids convert to energy. Then the unused energy turns to fat. Your body will source out sugar WAY before protein. Second we are talking protein powders in which the window it takes to assimilate is so short your body can't possibly digest it fast enough to create amino acids. Unless you are highly active and take advantage of that anabolic window.
But here is an analogy. Say your digestive window for protein is a door. Each gram of protein is a person. Take 20 grams of protein of steak v 20 grams of protein powder. The steak would be like each person is walking through the door. It passes slowly. Now take 20 grams of protein powder. Picture all 20 running towards that door. Not everyone will make it before that door shuts because it is overloaded. So 12 people make it through. It is likely gonna convert into muscle. The other 8? Urea. Why do you think so many people that drink large servings of protein powder frequently urinate?
In any case you're missing digesting factors which is a huge difference between protein powders and tradition meat sources. And in most cases humans don't acquire close to the amount they are supposed to eat. Further higher amounts of protein does even assist in fat loss due to the amount of energy to assimilate.
But yes, in the end I agree, precise amount of nutrition is the bottom line.

[hateraid]

What powders do you recommend? @hateraid

It's not so much what I recommend but how you take it. Ignorant people like norcaliblunt are to stupid to realize that people aren't saying replace food with powder or are to dumb to realize the comparison of cost per serving. Like his suggestion to eat bison steak. How much do you think 12 oz of bison steak cost compared to 7 grams of protein powder? $7 compared to less than a dollar. Smart consumers know how to mix the two.
It really depends on when you take it. And much much you use per serving.

If you want me to go deeper and you're willing to pay more of a premium for better quality I would suggest hydrolyzed protein by any company. Look on the label and make sure there is no other form of protein. Just hydrolyzed. I say this because hydrolyzed is predigested and stripped of all byproducts. Because it is predigested it doesn't require to go through the digestive process and could actually pass through the gut lining. So no bloating and 100% assimilation.

I hope that you recognize I'm not revealing the name of my company so my advice is completely unbias. But in any case good luck in your search.

[Norcaliblunt]

"I hate bro science! Grrr"
If you really believe all that then you really don't have a clue. But please, come back with how my kid got bullied by BLM you woke inbred

Ok snake oil salesman. It’s not like your opinion is biased or anything. Lol.

[hateraid]

Ok snake oil salesman. It’s not like your opinion is biased or anything. Lol.

As opposed to yours? Lol. Your opinion reeks of ignorance. Starting from your first statement protein powders are a rip off. Yet your suggesting protein sources with excessive costs.
Look at my posts. I haven't sold anything that benefits me. So try again Mr.BLM

[Vino24]

The best protein is sourced from wild game. If you can get your hands on moose or elk meat that would be preferable. These chemical proteins are pure shit

[hateraid]

The best protein is sourced from wild game. If you can get your hands on moose or elk meat that would be preferable. These chemical proteins are pure shit

Again how so? And how are these chemical proteins? They are as every bit a food source as any protein? They aren't synthetically manufactured. In fact hydrolyzed protein is what they use in hospital IVs for muscle wasting patients.

Again, nobody ever said to replace protein powder with real food. They both can be used simultaneously. But saying things like protein powders are chemicals or wildly expensive or unhealthy lacks a LOT of education

The problem with the "anti-powder" club is that they stick to their ideals that they refuse to be educated. In a lot of ways it's worse than politics. Vegans may be the worse though.

[Shogon]

Again how so? And how are these chemical proteins? They are as every bit a food source as any protein? They aren't synthetically manufactured. In fact hydrolyzed protein is what they use in hospital IVs for muscle wasting patients.

Again, nobody ever said to replace protein powder with real food. They both can be used simultaneously. But saying things like protein powders are chemicals or wildly expensive or unhealthy lacks a LOT of education

The problem with the "anti-powder" club is that they stick to their ideals that they refuse to be educated. In a lot of ways it's worse than politics. Vegans may be the worse though.

Well, the protein itself is a fantastic supplement so to all the people you're responding to, they're just ignorant retards.

Basically, yes, ideally, we would get all of our protein from 'natural' sources, however, it's basically impossible to hit your desired protein macro number without eating a wildly excessive amount of calories to make it happen. Nobody is going to eat enough meat to get 150g to 225g of protein daily. Nobody. That's absurd.

However, I will say... a significant portion of these protein powders contain undesirable shit...

https://cleanlabelproject.org/wp-content/uploads/Protein-Powder_Infographic-0111.jpg

[Rooster]

Well the topic is protein powder and converting to fat. In which this case it's very difficult. In order for it to convert to fat it first had to convert to amino acids, them the unused amino acids convert to energy. Then the unused energy turns to fat. Your body will source out sugar WAY before protein. Second we are talking protein powders in which the window it takes to assimilate is so short your body can't possibly digest it fast enough to create amino acids. Unless you are highly active and take advantage of that anabolic window.
But here is an analogy. Say your digestive window for protein is a door. Each gram of protein is a person. Take 20 grams of protein of steak v 20 grams of protein powder. The steak would be like each person is walking through the door. It passes slowly. Now take 20 grams of protein powder. Picture all 20 running towards that door. Not everyone will make it before that door shuts because it is overloaded. So 12 people make it through. It is likely gonna convert into muscle. The other 8? Urea. Why do you think so many people that drink large servings of protein powder frequently urinate?
In any case you're missing digesting factors which is a huge difference between protein powders and tradition meat sources. And in most cases humans don't acquire close to the amount they are supposed to eat. Further higher amounts of protein does even assist in fat loss due to the amount of energy to assimilate.
But yes, in the end I agree, precise amount of nutrition is the bottom line.


BUN is the by product of protein metabolism and the nitrogen is toxic that our body has to get rid of or eliminate so to speak. High amount of protein can assist in fat loss even because protein breakdown is slower and meat is more satiable but fat loss is mainly on calorie deficit and that’s the reason I disagree about taking high amount because it can be toxic to the kidney. Even when you bulk, you can only take a fair amount because gaining more than 1-2 pound a month means the excess is fat gain. This is the reason why nutritionist does not recommend professional ballers to just eat . Good analogy though about protein powder but this should only be used as supplements , meat like chicken breast or fish should be the main portion of your macro unless you’re vegetarian of course.

[hateraid]

BUN is the by product of protein metabolism and the nitrogen is toxic that our body has to get rid of or eliminate so to speak. High amount of protein can assist in fat loss even because protein breakdown is slower and meat is more satiable but fat loss is mainly on calorie deficit and that’s the reason I disagree about taking high amount because it can be toxic to the kidney. Even when you bulk, you can only take a fair amount because gaining more than 1-2 pound a month means the excess is fat gain. This is the reason why nutritionist does not recommend professional ballers to just eat . Good analogy though about protein powder but this should only be used as supplements , meat like chicken breast or fish should be the main portion of your macro unless you’re vegetarian of course.

I have stated high protein is rough on the kidney's. Hence my analogy on how the majority is converted to urea. I'm talking high compared to the average human intake vs the optimal human intake. Also converting your intake to match your anabolic state. Taking 80 grams of protein all at once obvious is taxing, and that can lead to excessive urea and fat storage. 20 grams every 4 -6 hours 4 times a day is different and can accelerate weight loss. And yes depending on what calorie deficit.
See problem is most people don't know whats optimal. I'd be surprised if most people here take the 1 gram per KG of bodyweight that is suggested. Or that an egg is only 4 grams of protein. a 18 oz steak is 10 grams. The diet severely lacks and that's why supplementation can be useful. Fill in the gaps and save on overall costs.

[hateraid]

Well, the protein itself is a fantastic supplement so to all the people you're responding to, they're just ignorant retards.

Basically, yes, ideally, we would get all of our protein from 'natural' sources, however, it's basically impossible to hit your desired protein macro number without eating a wildly excessive amount of calories to make it happen. Nobody is going to eat enough meat to get 150g to 225g of protein daily. Nobody. That's absurd.

However, I will say... a significant portion of these protein powders contain undesirable shit...

https://cleanlabelproject.org/wp-content/uploads/Protein-Powder_Infographic-0111.jpg

I'd like to see which ones are tested. Or if it factors in the byproducts use that could contain those chemicals. the protein in itself would not. Raw material protein is pretty much raw material whey refiltered to remove fat, lactose, and cholesterol. As well as these products may by in the anti-clumping agents, the flavoring, the preservatives. It sounds more like what would be contained in the lethicin that is added. Or flavoring like Ace-K. And like most companies that put out studies keep in mind what their narratives are. EVERY "study" is funded. Really, the majority of them out there I would be worried of.
In any case look at some of these labels if it is a high concern. GMP. Informed-choice. BSCG (drug tested and the certification I use). Look for ingredients that state natural flavoring. Look for products like sunflower lethicin instead of soy. And keep in mind the more premium, the less waste products in the bottle.

[tpols]

Eat real food. Those shake mixes are a combination of the waste product of milk and a bunch of bullshit chemicals. They're poison.


During his earlier days, Arnold would eat an entire chicken and drink a pitcher of beer after a workout. Turns out a post-workout beer isn’t even that bad for you!

[hateraid]

https://www.bscg.org/

Check these guys. I have them certify all my products. Mainly because some of my athletes are in organizations that do year round drug testing as well as i have a lot of university teams on my product as well. Meaning at any given time they can be pissed tested. I've seen WADA come into our office and piss test my partner who competes internationally in Powerlifting.

[Rooster]

I have stated high protein is rough on the kidney's. Hence my analogy on how the majority is converted to urea. I'm talking high compared to the average human intake vs the optimal human intake. Also converting your intake to match your anabolic state. Taking 80 grams of protein all at once obvious is taxing, and that can lead to excessive urea and fat storage. 20 grams every 4 -6 hours 4 times a day is different and can accelerate weight loss. And yes depending on what calorie deficit.
See problem is most people don't know whats optimal. I'd be surprised if most people here take the 1 gram per KG of bodyweight that is suggested. Or that an egg is only 4 grams of protein. a 18 oz steak is 10 grams. The diet severely lacks and that's why supplementation can be useful. Fill in the gaps and save on overall costs.


Where do you get that info, that seems off to me. I know different steak have different amount of protein but 18 oz is usually 90-100 g. The complicated part is most of them have contain at least 1000 calories .

[Shogon]

Eat real food. Those shake mixes are a combination of the waste product of milk and a bunch of bullshit chemicals. They're poison.

Didn't arnold have open heart surgery because of all of the animal products he consumed in his youth?

[rawimpact]

Where do you get that info, that seems off to me. I know different steak have different amount of protein but 18 oz is usually 90-100 g. The complicated part is most over them have contain at least 1000 calories .

I'm pretty sure he accidentally left out a zero.

I eat a lot of poultry and avoid red meat but can't help myself to the occasional burger. Steak's just not my thing unless it's country fried steak if it's cheat day.

[Shogon]

By the way, I've read from multiple sources that the protein damages your kidneys is largely a myth. Basically if you already have kidney problems, high protein intake is bad. If you don't have kidney problems, it's fine. I don't know. The Internet is full of such an incredible amount of conflicting information. It's actually ****ing mindblowing.

[rawimpact]

By the way, I've read from multiple sources that the protein damages your kidneys is largely a myth. Basically if you already have kidney problems, high protein intake is bad. If you don't have kidney problems, it's fine. I don't know. The Internet is full of such an incredible amount of conflicting information. It's actually ****ing mindblowing.


It's true... when I was in HS in the early 00s i played football and we all took a lot of protein. One of my friends was sick and had bloodwork as well as urine test and they found protein in it according to him. He had damaged his kidneys from high amounts of protein for his age and I was gifted all his supplements because his parents were done with it.

[tpols]

Didn't arnold have open heart surgery because of all of the animal products he consumed in his youth?

nah more like all the steroids he took. i'd also imagine being that huge and working out non stop like that is bad for your heart. It's unnatural.

[Rooster]

By the way, I've read from multiple sources that the protein damages your kidneys is largely a myth. Basically if you already have kidney problems, high protein intake is bad. If you don't have kidney problems, it's fine. I don't know. The Internet is full of such an incredible amount of conflicting information. It's actually ****ing mindblowing.

That’s not a myth. The wear of tear of kidney excreting excess protein waste in your blood and make you urinate frequently can do damage in your kidney in the long run.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091029141202.htm

Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe.

[Rooster]

I'm pretty sure he accidentally left out a zero.

I eat a lot of poultry and avoid red meat but can't help myself to the occasional burger. Steak's just not my thing unless it's country fried steak if it's cheat day.

I’ll eat a good steak in a cheat day. This is a like a treat for me.

[hateraid]

Where do you get that info, that seems off to me. I know different steak have different amount of protein but 18 oz is usually 90-100 g. The complicated part is most of them have contain at least 1000 calories .
I meant to quote bison liver and kidney, but my source is off on that too. Thanks for pointing out.

[hateraid]

That’s not a myth. The wear of tear of kidney excreting excess protein waste in your blood and make you urinate frequently can do damage in your kidney in the long run.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091029141202.htm

Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe.

I think what Shogon meant to say it's an exaggeration, not a myth. But in cases such as rawimpacts buddy and bodybuilders is that they take extreme amounts exceeding RDA. Most people can't even get to the RDA.

[Rolando]

Protein powders, for me, are used either during or directly after a workout. Otherwise, it come from regular food sources. From what I understand, the best food sources would be eggs, chicken, and salmon. Sardines got some good minerals to go with the protein as well. Oatmeal is also a great and unsuspecting source. Boiling up some bones to make some broth will also be a good and special treat for the whole body. For a while, no matter what meat I would eat, I would always get it on the bone: Spare ribs, baked whole chicken, pork chops....whatever....save the bones and boil them for 4 hours or so. Absolutely excellent for the body.

[hateraid]

Protein powders, for me, are used either during or directly after a workout. Otherwise, it come from regular food sources. From what I understand, the best food sources would be eggs, chicken, and salmon. Sardines got some good minerals to go with the protein as well. Oatmeal is also a great and unsuspecting source. Boiling up some bones to make some broth will also be a good and special treat for the whole body. For a while, no matter what meat I would eat, I would always get it on the bone: Spare ribs, baked whole chicken, pork chops....whatever....save the bones and boil them for 4 hours or so. Absolutely excellent for the body.

If everyone had your mindset then their wouldn't be this stigma about protein powders. It's too bad that people refuse to educate themselves on what these products really are

[bigbrownschaub]

im dune u a HUGE favor here b. go to onnit.com use promo code SCHAUB and get 5% off any protein powder. get yer blood flowing and you will b fugging chiggs in no time b. holla.

[highwhey]

I would like to see an article on that. Not because I don't believe it, but simply because I want to know more. And I hope it's true.

But also, when I say that I'm trying to consume less protein, it's not from the powder, but from other sources. And excess protein, at least from regular sources turn into body fat.

This is the article that I read a few months ago.



https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/how-long-before-extra-calories-show-on-the-scales/

I said 5 hours because I knew it was a little longer than the 4, but it's actually sometime tomorrow.

Apparently the excess non protein powder protein, will turn into the same amount of fat per gram as the carbohydrates. Taking the same amount of time. Because of the little amount of carbs that I eat, if I were to eat a donut now, I would get a massive headache tomorrow (my sugar levels would dramatically go up from a low sugar state, and then down.) But cutting down on the protein seems to have helped a bit. Though it's just a theory of mine, what I'm experimenting. I'm not 100% certain.



I did in the next post. Interesting, like that Kobrick guy.

interesting, can you elaborate further?

[Manny98]

I need more protein in my diet, I barely hit 50g a day

[SaltyMeatballs]

Vanilla or peanut butter chocolate Whey