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diamenz
09-01-2020, 08:55 AM
the uninformed masses seem to think that a vaccine is going to be the final answer to covid19. it obviously isn't. with some polls showing that not even half of america will get vaccinated, and with the addition of the fact that vaccines are only fifty percentish effective, that only makes 25%-ish of our population 'safe', or immune. are we going to keep schools and offices closed forever? social distance and mask up forever? a vaccine isn't going to do jack shit.

diamenz
09-01-2020, 09:40 AM
another thing i wonder. are establishments, gatherings, office spaces and schools going to REQUIRE vaccination papers in order to participate in these activities? i can see it as being possible, even more so with a biden admin.

n00bie
09-01-2020, 09:58 AM
the uninformed masses seem to think that a vaccine is going to be the final answer to covid19. it obviously isn't. with some polls showing that not even half of america will get vaccinated, and with the addition of the fact that vaccines are only fifty percentish effective, that only makes 25%-ish of our population 'safe', or immune. are we going to keep schools and offices closed forever? social distance and mask up forever? a vaccine isn't going to do jack shit.

Hopefully the virus just mutates itself to death.. similar to the pandemics in the past..but who knows.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 10:09 AM
If 50% of the population took that vaccine that would be huge, but I don't think even 10% will take it because I think covid will be mostly gone by the time a vaccine is released. Look at countries that had heavy covid like Italy, it's down to just small amounts now...single digit deaths. NYC is the same, they are down to single digit deaths, covid barely there now. We can see that when an area gets hit...it then goes away.

That's what will happen here, we have states that are just now getting over the hump, but once this shit passes it's gone.

Rooster
09-01-2020, 11:58 AM
If 50% of the population took that vaccine that would be huge, but I don't think even 10% will take it because I think covid will be mostly gone by the time a vaccine is released. Look at countries that had heavy covid like Italy, it's down to just small amounts now...single digit deaths. NYC is the same, they are down to single digit deaths, covid barely there now. We can see that when an area gets hit...it then goes away.

That's what will happen here, we have states that are just now getting over the hump, but once this shit passes it's gone.

People who’s healthy and fit enough should patient wait or not even take it unless they are expose to vulnerable population.

Virus is unpredictable though. The new strains are more contagious but less deadlier but we can never be certain and that’s one of the primary reason scientist are doing their due diligence to closely monitor mutations and new strains.

As far as mortality, I think that can be attribute to effectiveness of the treatment that became available and how FDA fast tracking every viable treatment. By late April, Remdisivir was already reducing the risk of mortality rate by 30% and they were approved by May 1. Last month , Gilead announced that it reduced the risk of mortality by 62% . This and the use of convalescent plasma (which a single donor can save 3 lives ) are game changers. If the Aero Nabs which is developed at UCSF will be effective at animal model and human model, this can easily be mass produced and hopefully they can be available before flu season hits. That’s when a lot of scientist believed the 2nd wave hits.

Norcaliblunt
09-01-2020, 12:01 PM
There‘s never an end all be all for bullshit ass germ theory. That’s the point. It’s a never ending battle with nature that you can’t ever win when you subscribe to this non sense.

starface
09-01-2020, 12:05 PM
There‘s never an end all be all for bullshit ass germ theory. That’s the point. It’s a never ending battle with nature that you can’t ever win when you subscribe to this non sense.

Shut up and put your mask on. Get your vaccine. Watch CNN. Vote for the people they tell you.

BE AFRAID.

FKAri
09-01-2020, 12:44 PM
There‘s never an end all be all for bullshit ass germ theory. That’s the point. It’s a never ending battle with nature that you can’t ever win when you subscribe to this non sense.

You don't subscribe to germ theory? Is it evil spirits?

MMM
09-01-2020, 12:54 PM
If 50% of the population took that vaccine that would be huge, but I don't think even 10% will take it because I think covid will be mostly gone by the time a vaccine is released. Look at countries that had heavy covid like Italy, it's down to just small amounts now...single digit deaths. NYC is the same, they are down to single digit deaths, covid barely there now. We can see that when an area gets hit...it then goes away.

That's what will happen here, we have states that are just now getting over the hump, but once this shit passes it's gone.

I think it's possible that more people have already had it. Also, the vaccine might only give immunity for a few months or year.

Norcaliblunt
09-01-2020, 01:20 PM
You don't subscribe to germ theory? Is it evil spirits?

Naw it’s toxic exposure, nutritional deficiencies, and trauma. Bacteria and viruses are the clean up crew while the symptoms are the result of these janitors pushing and cleansing everything out of you. You don’t want to kill anything, you want to endure the process when it does happen, or live healthy so you’ll be asymptomatic.

hateraid
09-01-2020, 01:32 PM
If 50% of the population took that vaccine that would be huge, but I don't think even 10% will take it because I think covid will be mostly gone by the time a vaccine is released. Look at countries that had heavy covid like Italy, it's down to just small amounts now...single digit deaths. NYC is the same, they are down to single digit deaths, covid barely there now. We can see that when an area gets hit...it then goes away.

That's what will happen here, we have states that are just now getting over the hump, but once this shit passes it's gone.

Wow, you've taken a complete 180 on this subject

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 01:58 PM
Wow, you've taken a complete 180 on this subject

how so ?

I've been saying a vaccine won't be necessary since the start

FKAri
09-01-2020, 02:16 PM
Naw it’s toxic exposure, nutritional deficiencies, and trauma. Bacteria and viruses are the clean up crew while the symptoms are the result of these janitors pushing and cleansing everything out of you. You don’t want to kill anything, you want to endure the process when it does happen, or live healthy so you’ll be asymptomatic.

The fact that germs exist is itself Germ Theory. They could be in because of toxic exposure or nutritional deficiencies but they could also be there because they ran into you by accident and you're a nice warm home for them to proliferate in.

Rooster
09-01-2020, 02:37 PM
how so ?

I've been saying a vaccine won't be necessary since the start

Vaccines are necessary for vulnerable individuals just like flu vaccines but should not be mandated based on what information we have on this virus unless a new strain comes along and starts to kill our children or like the 2nd wave of Spanish Flu and started to kill many young people.

bladefd
09-01-2020, 02:38 PM
Naw it’s toxic exposure, nutritional deficiencies, and trauma. Bacteria and viruses are the clean up crew while the symptoms are the result of these janitors pushing and cleansing everything out of you. You don’t want to kill anything, you want to endure the process when it does happen, or live healthy so you’ll be asymptomatic.

Bacteria and viruses can and do create many many diseases. That's essentially the whole germ theory simplified to the very basics.

Vaccines do work and are proof of the germ theory. Look at what it did to polio and measles/mumps. We know those diseases are caused by viruses and vaccines keep them at bay. Whenever societies have become lax in vaccinating their citizens, you see those viruses begin to creep back. There is nothing bullsh!t about it. People have tried to disprove the germ theory for many decades, but nobody has succeeded. You are welcome to try, but it is built on strong foundation built over close to a century of science and actual lab work. It would be like trying to disprove the law of gravitation, which would be madness trying to disprove, but hey, science is falsifiable and open to anyone to disprove with evidence you can find/use.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 02:43 PM
Vaccines are necessary for vulnerable individuals just like flu vaccines but should not be mandated based on what information we have on this virus unless a new strain comes along and starts to kill our children or like the 2nd wave of Spanish Flu and started to kill many young people.

yeah, maybe mandated if you work at an old folks home or something...

But from what we have seen from past virus scares (ebola, SARS, etc) is that vaccines aren't used...the viruses always just vanish...or get to a point where the numbers are so small a vaccine isn't necessary. And we are seeing that in places with covid...it's vanishing.


I'll say maybe India will make good use of a vaccine...they are still ramping up and could be ravaged with covid in a few months time

hateraid
09-01-2020, 02:50 PM
how so ?

I've been saying a vaccine won't be necessary since the start

I'm saying your whole stance on covid in general.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 03:06 PM
I'm saying your whole stance on covid in general.

I still think covid is very much real and that it probably helps to wear masks and take precautions, etc ... but I've always viewed it as a very temporary thing. That's why I've been so big on taking advantage of Wall Street, this shit will be gone and everything will come back and then some.

In fact that is all that is worth thinking about IMO...how YOU can take advantage of covid...everyone in here arguing over masks and meaningless retarded shit that is a complete waste of time...once these Trillions got dumped into circulation all thoughts should be on that because these opportunities don't come very often.

https://i.postimg.cc/LX2hFhSG/stimulus.jpg

Rooster
09-01-2020, 03:15 PM
I still think covid is very much real and that it probably helps to wear masks and take precautions, etc ... but I've always viewed it as a very temporary thing. That's why I've been so big on taking advantage of Wall Street, this shit will be gone and everything will come back and then some.

In fact that is all that is worth thinking about IMO...how YOU can take advantage of covid...everyone in here arguing over masks and meaningless retarded shit that is a complete waste of time...once these Trillions got dumped into circulation all thoughts should be on that because these opportunities don't come very often.

https://i.postimg.cc/LX2hFhSG/stimulus.jpg

I go with Buffet flow.

simply attempt to be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful

There are so much disinformation about Covid though due to political agenda etc that makes you pause instead of feeling that sign of relief. That’s why science has to followed and refined accordingly from peer reviewed scientific studies. Then there’s also economic consequence so it makes it complicated .

starface
09-01-2020, 03:16 PM
I still think covid is very much real and that it probably helps to wear masks and take precautions, etc ... but I've always viewed it as a very temporary thing. That's why I've been so big on taking advantage of Wall Street, this shit will be gone and everything will come back and then some.

In fact that is all that is worth thinking about IMO...how YOU can take advantage of covid...everyone in here arguing over masks and meaningless retarded shit that is a complete waste of time...once these Trillions got dumped into circulation all thoughts should be on that because these opportunities don't come very often.

https://i.postimg.cc/LX2hFhSG/stimulus.jpg


This is a convenient excuse not to discuss/admit it was completely exploited and overblown for political reasons, by the people you plan to vote for.

Which you know is a fact, but it seems youd rather deflect and say “cmon guys, who cares about that stuff anymore? lets turn our attention to the opportunity!”

You lose a lot of personal credibility being that disingenuous. Obviously youre not banking on needing any personal credit with the people you talk politics and current events with. But if you ever do need it, we will remember....

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 03:21 PM
political parties used covid for gain...yeah...let's do the same


you think the wealthy elites of the world are spending all day whining about masks and shit?

starface
09-01-2020, 04:02 PM
political parties used covid for gain...yeah...let's do the same


you think the wealthy elites of the world are spending all day whining about masks and shit?


Bro the whole pretext of you TDSing for four years has been "Trump is dishonest, he's selfish, he's not a nice guy. And also he's not making the free healthcare and free college and free everything."

The people you're goin to vote to replace him with have shown themselves to be conniving, predatory political exploiters who are shaking everyone down for their own personal gain. They are everything you've accused Trump of and more.

You've spent the last four years crying and raging, but now when it's clear the other side is the same thing you're like "I mean, it's not a big deal."

Why are you so mad when it's Orange Man but you don't care if it's Biden?

You dont see the disconnect? I dont think you wanna admit youve been just going along with the TDS brainwashing without really thinking about it coherently.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 04:24 PM
I've been touting stock market since the start of covid...open the covid thread and read through the beginning...probably half my posts in that entire thread are stock related. This isn't something I'm just NOW turning to.

you want to bring TDS into this because you're starface and that's all you do, but you know what, it applies with that as well...I need to stop caring about Trump/Biden left/right etc...politics in general. You should too...what has it ever done for you other than stressed you out?...it's pointless to stress over

Unless you are in politics, all you can do is vote...that's it. Our time in general is better spent focusing on ourselves and not others.

starface
09-01-2020, 04:45 PM
I've been touting stock market since the start of covid...open the covid thread and read through the beginning...probably half my posts in that entire thread are stock related. This isn't something I'm just NOW turning to.

you want to bring TDS into this because you're starface and that's all you do, but you know what, it applies with that as well...I need to stop caring about Trump/Biden left/right etc...politics in general. You should too...what has it ever done for you other than stressed you out?...it's pointless to stress over

Unless you are in politics, all you can do is vote...that's it. Our time in general is better spent focusing on ourselves and not others.


The point is, any time you have chimed in on politics for the last four years, you made a big deal about how bad/scary/wrong Trump is.

Now that DEMOCRATS have overtly scorched the Earth for political purposes, you suddenly don't think politics is such a big deal and not worth focusing on.

You threw your hat in with a bunch of brainwashed parrots for four years, and now you're trying to quietly step back from it and think people won't remember. I'm just letting you know, people will remember. Including any people in your real life whom you may have dropped a cringey TDS rant in front of, while they remained quiet and allowed you to think they agreed with your babbling brainwashed nonsense.

People will remember if you were consistent or if you were an uninformed, flip flopping front runner.

tpols
09-01-2020, 04:54 PM
this video is perfect for tiddy.

He's a prime example of the average american that just runs with whatever the **** is thrown at him or told to him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gLLZ_D1Lqw

Most people are sheep, and even when they're proven wrong, they'll pivot, deflect, minimize and act like it didn't happen.

Next go around they will act exactly the same way.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 05:01 PM
The point is, any time you have chimed in on politics for the last four years, you made a big deal about how bad/scary/wrong Trump is.

Now that DEMOCRATS have overtly scorched the Earth for political purposes, you suddenly don't think politics is such a big deal and not worth focusing on.

You threw your hat in with a bunch of brainwashed parrots for four years, and now you're trying to quietly step back from it and think people won't remember. I'm just letting you know, people will remember. Including any people in your real life whom you may have dropped a cringey TDS rant in front of, while they remained quiet and allowed you to think they agreed with your babbling brainwashed nonsense.

People will remember if you were consistent or if you were an uninformed, flip flopping front runner.

Okay first off I took a 2 year hiatus from this place...only came back cause work at home...so if you think I've been not stop posting political shit in here since 2016 you're wrong. Second, no one is going to remember 99% of the shit in here man...all the long drawn out posts you made in 2017?..they're forgotten. I made a lot of pro-Bush posts in here back in the day...ALL FORGOTTEN. I was gone for 2 years in here, forgotten by you. Third, who gives a fck what anyone in here remembers or thinks?...we're all strangers for the most part. None of any of this matters...the only value this place has is entertainment value, and if you're in here stressing day after day over the thoughts of others it is time wasted.

starface
09-01-2020, 05:09 PM
Okay first off I took a 2 year hiatus from this place...only came back cause work at home...so if you think I've been not stop posting political shit in here since 2016 you're wrong. Second, no one is going to remember 99% of the shit in here man...all the long drawn out posts you made in 2017?..they're forgotten. I made a lot of pro-Bush posts in here back in the day...ALL FORGOTTEN. I was gone for 2 years in here, forgotten by you. Third, who gives a fck what anyone in here remembers or thinks?...we're all strangers for the most part. None of any of this matters...the only value this place has is entertainment value, and if you're in here stressing day after day over the thoughts of others it is time wasted.

If I'm not mistaken, you consistently bemoaned Trump's candidacy, and then left here BECAUSE he won and you didnt wanna stick around and hold your L (just like DeuceWallace who also disappeared in exactly the same context). When you did pop in now and then, it was usually to spew some TDS.

But now that it's clear "reality star Trump" had the country at least inching in the right direction before the political establishment burned it to the ground in order to subvert him, you wanna just quietly act like it's all no big deal, water under the bridge, let's not worry about this side or that side.

It's a pretty big deal that people like you allowed this to happen because you were mindlessly parroting a media narrative.

Maybe it'll never have any real life consequences for you. Maybe it will. Who knows.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 05:14 PM
Okay, as far as covid goes, I've been pointing and obsessing over stock market more than anything else...I got a shit ton of posts in the covid thread to back that up. if that makes me a media sheep in your eyes then so be it.

To me the sheep are the ones who are spending day after day arguing over masks...on EITHER side of the debate.

tpols
09-01-2020, 05:14 PM
He's stressed out about it because he was wrong. It's like if your team loses, you feel bad and dont stick around much for the aftermath. But if they won? You stick around for the fun. :lol

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 05:18 PM
He's stressed out about it because he was wrong. It's like if your team loses, you feel bad and dont stick around much for the aftermath. But if they won? You stick around for the fun. :lol

wrong about what?...I don't think covid was fcking political hoax :facepalm

you're a sheep to conspiracy

tpols
09-01-2020, 05:21 PM
wrong about what?...I don't think covid was fcking political hoax :facepalm

you're a sheep to conspiracy

Watch the Carlin video. Literally the first 20 seconds. He was spot on about you, from 25 years ago.

~primetime~
09-01-2020, 05:23 PM
Watch the Carlin video. Literally the first 20 seconds. He was spot on about you.

yeah that's not me...read the covid thread...I've been preaching stock market because I had full understanding that covid isn't the end of the world

Manny98
09-01-2020, 06:33 PM
I refuse to be injected with a rushed vaccine that's only 50% effective at best with possible side effects

I have literally not had a vaccine for anything in my entire life and I rarely ever get ill

Vaccines are a hoax

Axe
09-01-2020, 08:04 PM
Those vaccines still would come from china

Jasper
09-03-2020, 09:57 AM
the uninformed masses seem to think that a vaccine is going to be the final answer to covid19. it obviously isn't. with some polls showing that not even half of america will get vaccinated, and with the addition of the fact that vaccines are only fifty percentish effective, that only makes 25%-ish of our population 'safe', or immune. are we going to keep schools and offices closed forever? social distance and mask up forever? a vaccine isn't going to do jack shit.

to a degree you are right ,, it will be a 2 vaccine dosage ... first one 50 +% effective and 2 dosage will be 100%
Problem is like a guy I met yesterday , talking about all other illnesses and said he really doesn't think cvd19 is cracked up to what it is...
Obviously a Dumpster ... next sentence he tells me our local town has 18 cases..
Those are the people that won't take a FREE vaccine ... and if they die , I won't be crying over them .

Nanners
09-04-2020, 02:41 AM
Theres no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible for Covid.

Unlike most viruses, covid cannot be vaccinated through the traditional vax method of introducing a small amount of inert virus cells to the body and relying on the immune system to produce specific antibodies.

Covid requires a RNA vaccine (which has never been created successfully, but not for lack of trying). A RNA vaccine works by introducing new RNA into a persons cells, which tells the cells to produce copies of the virus, which the immune system is then supposed to detects and destroy, leaving behind antibodies in the process.

In addition to the fact that no RNA vaccine has ever been successfully created, there are some obvious safety/morality issues (every vaccine recipient will manufacture the live virus within their body, and pharma companies will own part of the genome for anyone whose body contains copies of the RNA in their patented vaccine)

LAmbruh
09-04-2020, 02:56 AM
Theres no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible for Covid.

Unlike most viruses, covid cannot be vaccinated through the traditional vax method of introducing a small amount of inert virus cells to the body and relying on the immune system to produce specific antibodies.

Covid requires a RNA vaccine (which has never been created successfully, but not for lack of trying). A RNA vaccine works by introducing new RNA into a persons cells, which tells the cells to produce copies of the virus, which the immune system is then supposed to detects and destroy, leaving behind antibodies in the process.

In addition to the fact that no RNA vaccine has ever been successfully created, there are some obvious safety/morality issues (every vaccine recipient will manufacture the live virus within their body, and pharma companies will own part of the genome for anyone whose body contains copies of the RNA in their patented vaccine)

Finding a vaccine would be horrible in your case

You would have nothing else to post about. :oldlol:

Nanners
09-04-2020, 02:58 AM
Finding a vaccine would be horrible in your case

You would have nothing else to post about. :oldlol

As long as ******s like you remain active around here, I will never run out of things to post about :cheers:

Walk on Water
09-04-2020, 04:19 AM
Theres no guarantee that a vaccine is even possible for Covid.

Unlike most viruses, covid cannot be vaccinated through the traditional vax method of introducing a small amount of inert virus cells to the body and relying on the immune system to produce specific antibodies.

Covid requires a RNA vaccine (which has never been created successfully, but not for lack of trying). A RNA vaccine works by introducing new RNA into a persons cells, which tells the cells to produce copies of the virus, which the immune system is then supposed to detects and destroy, leaving behind antibodies in the process.

In addition to the fact that no RNA vaccine has ever been successfully created, there are some obvious safety/morality issues (every vaccine recipient will manufacture the live virus within their body, and pharma companies will own part of the genome for anyone whose body contains copies of the RNA in their patented vaccine)


Huh? Russia already has a vaccine and Trump is working on getting one out in less than 2 months. So how could it not be possible when not only is it possible but is getting here at a record speed?

Nanners
09-04-2020, 04:30 AM
Huh? Russia already has a vaccine and Trump is working on getting one out in less than 2 months. So how could it not be possible when not only is it possible but is getting here at a record speed?

:oldlol:

So you believe Russian propaganda now?

Everything I said was true. Nobody has ever successfully made an RNA vaccine for any virus (theres no guarantee that its even possible), and this sort of vaccine will have enormous safety/morality concerns if someone ever does successfully build one.

Gohan
09-04-2020, 09:17 AM
Imagine not wanting to wear a mask. Just wear the damn mask

Nanners
09-04-2020, 09:20 AM
imagine not wanting to wear a tinfoil hat. were you idiots not paying attention when CNN said that aliens are trying to upload alt-right talking points into our brains?

TheMan
09-04-2020, 09:23 AM
There‘s never an end all be all for bullshit ass germ theory. That’s the point. It’s a never ending battle with nature that you can’t ever win when you subscribe to this non sense.

I agree, viruses don't exist, they are made up by the Leftist media.

bladefd
09-04-2020, 12:57 PM
Masks are now tinfoil hats :facepalm

ZenMaster
09-04-2020, 02:16 PM
I agree, viruses don't exist, they are made up by the Leftist media.

Virus is real, the pandemic is fake.

~primetime~
09-04-2020, 02:23 PM
Virus is real, the pandemic is fake.

it's a pandemic...you can have a pandemic of any disease no matter how minor it is...there was a flu pandemic in 2009 (h1n1) and covid is much more severe than that was

Norcaliblunt
09-04-2020, 02:31 PM
The fact that germs exist is itself Germ Theory. They could be in because of toxic exposure or nutritional deficiencies but they could also be there because they ran into you by accident and you're a nice warm home for them to proliferate in.

You have more bacteria in and on you than cells. You are more bacteria than human.

Norcaliblunt
09-04-2020, 02:46 PM
Bacteria and viruses can and do create many many diseases. That's essentially the whole germ theory simplified to the very basics.

Vaccines do work and are proof of the germ theory. Look at what it did to polio and measles/mumps. We know those diseases are caused by viruses and vaccines keep them at bay. Whenever societies have become lax in vaccinating their citizens, you see those viruses begin to creep back. There is nothing bullsh!t about it. People have tried to disprove the germ theory for many decades, but nobody has succeeded. You are welcome to try, but it is built on strong foundation built over close to a century of science and actual lab work. It would be like trying to disprove the law of gravitation, which would be madness trying to disprove, but hey, science is falsifiable and open to anyone to disprove with evidence you can find/use.

I disprove germ theory every day when I eat rotting raw meat (high meat look it up) along with a number of other raw fermented foods, and I thrive like a motherphucker. Anybody can find out for themselves it’s pretty easy. Now if are covering yourself/ingesting industrial chemicals while being nutrient deficient then you are going to run into problems. We live in the most sanitized time in human history, but also the most polluted. That says it all.

JEFFERSON MONEY
09-04-2020, 03:20 PM
Bacteria and viruses can and do create many many diseases. That's essentially the whole germ theory simplified to the very basics.

Bacteria/Viruses do not "create" disease.

They are a PART of the disease but they have been created and subject to ....

bladefd
09-04-2020, 04:12 PM
Bacteria/Viruses do not "create" disease.

They are a PART of the disease but they have been created and subject to ....

"cause" diseases. Better?

bladefd
09-04-2020, 04:15 PM
You have more bacteria in and on you than cells. You are more bacteria than human.

Not all bacteria are bad and disease causing.. In fact majority of them don't cause diseases. That doesn't disprove the germ theory

bladefd
09-04-2020, 04:16 PM
I disprove germ theory every day when I eat rotting raw meat (high meat look it up) along with a number of other raw fermented foods, and I thrive like a motherphucker. Anybody can find out for themselves it’s pretty easy. Now if are covering yourself/ingesting industrial chemicals while being nutrient deficient then you are going to run into problems. We live in the most sanitized time in human history, but also the most polluted. That says it all.

Going to overlook this part?:
Vaccines do work and are proof of the germ theory. Look at what it did to polio and measles/mumps. We know those diseases are caused by viruses and vaccines keep them at bay. Whenever societies have become lax in vaccinating their citizens, you see those viruses begin to creep back. There is nothing bullsh!t about it.

FKAri
09-04-2020, 10:29 PM
You have more bacteria in and on you than cells. You are more bacteria than human.
Yes it's practically symbiosis. That's germ theory.

I disprove germ theory every day when I eat rotting raw meat (high meat look it up) along with a number of other raw fermented foods, and I thrive like a motherphucker. Anybody can find out for themselves it’s pretty easy. Now if are covering yourself/ingesting industrial chemicals while being nutrient deficient then you are going to run into problems. We live in the most sanitized time in human history, but also the most polluted. That says it all.
That's still germ theory.

Cleverness
09-04-2020, 11:11 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/26/obesity-increases-risk-of-covid-19-death-by-48-study-finds


Obesity increases risk of Covid-19 death by 48%, study finds

Comprehensive study suggests vaccine may not work as well for overweight people :eek:



It'll be interesting to see who wants to take the vaccine when the daily deaths are close to zero nationwide.

Sweden just went a whole week with 0 COVID deaths, and iirc July 2020 was their 2nd least deadliest month (all-cause mortality) of ALL-TIME :bowdown:

As I've said in other threads, virus burns out due to innate immunity / T cells / etc around 15-20% antibody prevalence

US will end the year with herd immunity (or herd resistance if you prefer that term) and less hospitalizations with COVID than the 2018 flu (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page501&p=14086866#post14086866). :lol


Virus is real, the pandemic is fake.

How I put it: Virus is real, but the gov't policies/hysteria is bullshit.

Cleverness
09-04-2020, 11:53 PM
Today is Day 173 of 15 days to flatten the curve.

It will not end until enough people stop falling for the scam.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14036326&viewfull=1#post14036326


https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1291122864079491075

"Pushing back on authority, pushing back on government, is the same as pushing back on science." - Quack Fauci

LMAO :roll:


Goalposts have moved to permanent lockdowns

It's just 15 days to flatten the curve - > It's just another 30 days -> Just until July 31st -> Just until a vaccine -> This is the new normal (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?482343-Shopping-Carts-Stop-Signs-and-Traffic-Lights-and-Wearing-Masks&p=14058493&viewfull=1#post14058493)

"There’s no ‘silver bullet’ to defeat coronavirus and there might never be. The message to people and governments is clear: Do it all. And when it’s under control, keep going." - Communist Ethiopian politician / Director of WHO

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1290407167015694336

Sweet Jesus guys wake the F up


i'm not old enough to remember, but i will never forget the bullshit we're going through right now. at this point they're doing this stuff as research to test our docility.
"How far can we push this?"
"Well 67% still support this shit, and it's working well for us, so let's keep it going as long as we can."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eet7ruJUMAA7Y25?format=jpg&name=medium

https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.mediapost.com/dam/cropped/2020/07/17/instyle-fauci-560.JPEG

https://images.wsj.net/im-213156?width=620&size=1.5

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Anthony-Fauci-Topps-card.png

Cleverness
09-04-2020, 11:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgC7XV_UEAAXuYF?format=jpg&name=small

Good news: only two more years of this until the next government scam. Undoubtedly it will be straight outta the CCP playbook, just as this one was. (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1288604595107827713.html)

It's not about "controlling" a widespread respiratory coronavirus

It's about government/elites controlling the people

ZenMaster
09-05-2020, 05:18 AM
it's a pandemic...you can have a pandemic of any disease no matter how minor it is...there was a flu pandemic in 2009 (h1n1) and covid is much more severe than that was

I'll clarify for you, the level of the pandemic is what isn't real.

3.4% death rate, hundreds of millions infected within a couple of months... All that stuff which somehow made headlines for weeks or months, it wasn't real. We even had the discussion on here multiple times, something like:

Someone: "The death rate isn't 3.4%, that's the crude case fatality rate, and due to testing not being available it's safe to assume that a bunch of people has had covid without getting tested"

Someone else: "It's the best number we got, we need to use it".

Someone: "No that's stupid, you're going to cause unnecessary panic"

Someone else: "I don't care"(The CCP told me not to)