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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-01-2020, 05:32 PM
He's a decent bottom 10 coach at best but dudes swear he's one of the absolute best and I'm discussion for best coach:roll::roll::roll:

Spo, Nurse, Pop, Carlisle, Kerr, Bud etc are way better for onr

NBAGOAT
09-01-2020, 05:36 PM
name one championship roster hes had. last years team was the best on paper but ruined by bad chemistry guys. able to coach great defenses even with weak links on the court like isaiah, kyrie, and kemba. really good offensive sets especially out of bounds plays

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-01-2020, 05:39 PM
name one championship roster hes had. last years team was the best on paper but ruined by bad chemistry guys. able to coach great defenses even with weak links on the court like isaiah, kyrie, and kemba. really good offensive sets especially out of bounds plays

So the coach doesn't deserve blame for chemistry issues now?

Even Brad took responsibility and blame for their season last year but the apologists never wanna blame him for anything

NBAGOAT
09-01-2020, 05:42 PM
So the coach doesn't deserve blame for chemistry issues now?

Even Brad took responsibility and blame for their season last year but the apologists never wanna blame him for anything

yea he deserves some blame for last year but thts one year and has happened to other coaches. richard jefferson was a disaster with sa kind of wasted those years for the big 3. Rondo ruined a dallas team on pace for 55+ wins, does carlisle deserve no blame for not integrating him well?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-01-2020, 05:45 PM
yea he deserves some blame for last year but thts one year and has happened to other coaches. richard jefferson was a disaster with sa kind of wasted those years for the big 3. Rondo ruined a dallas team on pace for 55+ wins, does carlisle deserve no blame for not integrating him well?

What situation in Boston has been close to the Rondo one?

In 2017 Stevens had the 1 seed and was down 0-2 and about to be upset by the 8 seed until Rondo got injured

He isn't a great coach

Kblaze8855
09-01-2020, 05:48 PM
Did I miss when Bud won something Brad didn’t?

And most fans have no idea what coaches are even doing beyond the strategy omitted clips you hear as they talk to their teams in game.

What basketball criticism do you actually have? It’s rare to get anything out of a fan beyond rotations because fans don’t know shit about organized basketball offenses or defenses.

What specifically do you take issue with?

BigtimeNBAFan
09-01-2020, 06:09 PM
You lose the plot when you say he is a "bottom 10 coach at best." That makes you seem like you are either an idiot or just trolling. Stevens might not be the best coach in the league and there are arguments to be made that he is overrated, but he is one of the top coaches in the league. There are 20 teams that would fire their coach tomorrow if it meant Brad Stevens would be their coach. Maybe more than that.

HBK_Kliq_2
09-01-2020, 06:12 PM
2nd round he is benching Enes and starting Robert Williams. Sounds like a smart coach to me, at least he makes adjustments and isn't stubborn. A guy like Bud doesn't adapt and make adjustments in the playoffs enough.

BigtimeNBAFan
09-01-2020, 06:12 PM
Did I miss when Bud won something Brad didn’t?

And most fans have no idea what coaches are even doing beyond the strategy omitted clips you hear as they talk to their teams in game.

What basketball criticism do you actually have? It’s rare to get anything out of a fan beyond rotations because fans don’t know shit about organized basketball offenses or defenses.

What specifically do you take issue with?

Yeah at this point in time Budenholzer and Stevens have similar resumes. Their career highlights are taking two teams to the conference finals. They both had homecourt advantage both times and both failed to reach the finals. Stevens is 4-8 in the conference finals while Bud is 2-8. I would give the edge to Stevens as he overachieved with both teams and Budenholzer overachieved with the 2015 Hawks, but underachieved with the Bucks last year.

Stevens has had one bad year coaching as far as failing to meet expectations which was of course last year. Otherwise if you are a Boston fan I don't know how you could be dissatisfied with him.

Wally450
09-01-2020, 06:49 PM
He's been the most consistent coach the last 4 years. Dude's arguably the best coach in the league alongside Spo, Nurse, Pop

RRR3
09-01-2020, 06:55 PM
If Hamtardo says he’s bad he must be amazing.

starface
09-01-2020, 07:44 PM
Did I miss when Bud won something Brad didn’t?

And most fans have no idea what coaches are even doing beyond the strategy omitted clips you hear as they talk to their teams in game.

What basketball criticism do you actually have? It’s rare to get anything out of a fan beyond rotations because fans don’t know shit about organized basketball offenses or defenses.

What specifically do you take issue with?

This.

It definitely becomes clear over time when someone is inept in their role. Like a Donald Sterling in ownership or Mike Woodson coaching. But fans nitpicking over little decisions in a given game or series when they don't have 1/15 the information about the circumstance that the coach does... always rings hollow.

It's not like the Celtics have underachieved. They've done pretty much what you'd expect given their age/roster. The real key will be over the next 2-3 years when a lot of their young guys start hitting that age where they're really hungry for a chip and not just to prove themselves as individuals.

Lion's pride
09-01-2020, 09:49 PM
Boston fan here.. Brad Stevens is a very good tactical coach.. also a Player's coach.. which isn't always a good thing.. He gets a ton a Hype because he is a young baby faced coach who came straight out of Butler.. He is everyone's darling..

I do not think he is as good as some say, but to say he is Bottom 10 at best is just silly or spiteful..

Stevens and Ainge better start getting better results out of their NON top 6 draft picks..

Axe
09-01-2020, 09:53 PM
He hasn't won anything? Yet he led the celtics to two ecf appearance in a row from 2017-2018, the latter in which they even went 2-0 against bran's 4th seeded cavs wc was his last stint with them.

Unfortunately, the Cs ultimately fell in that series but at least they were able to take them to seven games, unlike coach bud with the hawks in 2015 and last year with the bucks.

Whoah10115
09-01-2020, 11:05 PM
This went well.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-02-2020, 12:03 AM
This went well.

What has he won since this thread was made?

Celts squeaked out a win where Marcus Smart hit 5 3s in a row

just pure luck

and Stevens still aint winning shit

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-05-2020, 08:27 PM
Nurse coaching circles round this boi

Wally450
09-05-2020, 08:28 PM
Meltdown from OP

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Meltdown from OP

Backdoor sweep with Kyrie

Backdoor sweep with Kemba

LOL your team is just garbage babyboi

Gohan
09-05-2020, 08:40 PM
Backdoor sweep with Kyrie

Backdoor sweep with Kemba

LOL your team is just garbage babyboi

Quiet down game not over yet

Gudo
09-05-2020, 08:48 PM
Nurse outcoaching him now. And all he has to say about last game’s loss is that the raptors did a good job.

k0kakw0rld
09-05-2020, 11:30 PM
He hasn't won anything? Yet he led the celtics to two ecf appearance in a row from 2017-2018, the latter in which they even went 2-0 against bran's 4th seeded cavs wc was his last stint with them.

Unfortunately, the Cs ultimately fell in that series but at least they were able to take them to seven games, unlike coach bud with the hawks in 2015 and last year with the bucks.

You are an idiot bro. The argument is him not winning anything. You bring ECF appearances. You are a moron tbh wtf?

Axe
09-05-2020, 11:36 PM
You are an idiot bro. The argument is him not winning anything. You bring ECF appearances. You are a moron tbh wtf?
And you're dumb lol.

The craptors as the first seed went 0-4 against the cavs in the ecsf during that year. What's your biggest excuse for this bs then?

k0kakw0rld
09-05-2020, 11:38 PM
And you're dumb lol.

The craptors as the first seed went 0-4 against the cavs in the ecsf during that year. What's your biggest excuse for this bs then?
Dwayne Casey.




The man in my avy has more tricks in his bag than any coach I've ever witnessed. :bowdown:
1-3-1 zone box and 1 zone like bruh are we playing 2k coach Nurse lmaooo :oldlol::rockon:

Axe
09-05-2020, 11:51 PM
Dwayne Casey.




The man in my avy has more tricks in his bag than any coach I've ever witnessed. :bowdown:
1-3-1 zone box and 1 zone like bruh are we playing 2k coach Nurse lmaooo :oldlol::rockon:
Yeah but only good in the rs tho. :lol

Got fired immediately after the sweep and was replaced by nurse, who was lucky to have gotten kawhi in the team, a star with championship experience.

Last year was a good history for canada. But this year? Unlikely.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-18-2020, 12:08 AM
Got lucky against Nurse with Siakam forgetting how to play ball

Spo is giving babyboi a noogie

Honor Boost
09-18-2020, 12:10 AM
Who has been his best #1 option during his reign? 5'3 Isiah Thomas or 20 year old Jason Tatum? The man is doing just fine with what he has and is developing his young stallion stars just fine he just needs to keep Marcus Smart's smart mouth in check and then it's Boston in 7.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-18-2020, 12:14 AM
Who has been his best #1 option during his reign? 5'3 Isiah Thomas or 20 year old Jason Tatum? The man is doing just fine with what he has and is developing his young stallion stars just fine he just needs to keep Marcus Smart's smart mouth in check and then it's Boston in 7.

LOL Boston is done

Miami is 16-0 in franchise history after going up 2-0

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-18-2020, 03:33 AM
Who has been his best #1 option during his reign? 5'3 Isiah Thomas or 20 year old Jason Tatum? The man is doing just fine with what he has and is developing his young stallion stars just fine he just needs to keep Marcus Smart's smart mouth in check and then it's Boston in 7.

Keeping locker room good, confident and in check is the coach's job. All Brad can do is make some schemes that it

No adjustments, no leadership. Belongs in college. NBA isnt for babybois like him its for men

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-23-2020, 11:06 PM
:roll::roll::roll::roll:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-27-2020, 10:01 PM
:roll::roll::roll:

AirTupac
09-27-2020, 10:02 PM
Trash coach