Two Things

[ArbitraryWater]

1) Bad look if Giannis gets the MVP. Still an unfinished product
2) If Giannis uses this series loss and team failure as excuse to team hop to a loaded team, he‘d reach KD levels of unlikeability.

This is on him. He‘s been dog shit.

His team is good.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bucks led most of the night, still lost. All fraud-ish.

Bud massively ruined this series by having Giannis not play 40 minuted once.

Is Giannis even playing 38 mpg? Embarrassing time management.

[light]

1) Bad look if Giannis gets the MVP. Still an unfinished product
2) If Giannis uses this series loss and team failure as excuse to team hop to a loaded team, he‘d reach KD levels of unlikeability.

This is on him. He‘s been dog shit.

His team is good.

LeBron is the real MVP of 2020. Everyone knows this.

[scuzzy]

ISH told me anyone can make the Finals out East

[Doranku]

ISH told me Giannis was better than Kawhi. What happened???

[FromDowntown]

LeBron is the real MVP of 2020. Everyone knows this.

100%

Can you imagine choosing anyone else.

LBJ should have had the last 9 MVPs

[Proctor]

1) Bad look if Giannis gets the MVP. Still an unfinished product
2) If Giannis uses this series loss and team failure as excuse to team hop to a loaded team, he‘d reach KD levels of unlikeability.

This is on him. He‘s been dog shit.

His team is good.
And you just know #2 will happen too.

This generation's most overrated player. Even more overrated than Harden.

[FromDowntown]

ISH told me anyone can make the Finals out East

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[DMAVS41]

Look...he deserves shit for this...assuming they don't somehow make history.

But, again, evaluate his help...does he actually have championship help? Again, no excuse for this series...but this isn't a championship squad in terms of help imo.

I posted this in the other thread...the last two Bucks teams remind me a lot of the 06/07 Mavs. Really good teams, but just not legit championship level help historically.

[starface]

ISH told me anyone can make the Finals out East


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Ether.

[Doranku]

Look...he deserves shit for this...assuming they don't somehow make history.

But, again, evaluate his help...does he actually have championship help? Again, no excuse for this series...but this isn't a championship squad in terms of help imo.

I posted this in the other thread...the last two Bucks teams remind me a lot of the 06/07 Mavs. Really good teams, but just not legit championship level help historically.

They're getting decimated in the 2nd round by a 4th seed. Does the MVP/DPOY need a championship caliber squad to get past the 2nd round? I don't get it.

[FromDowntown]

Look...he deserves shit for this...assuming they don't somehow make history.

But, again, evaluate his help...does he actually have championship help? Again, no excuse for this series...but this isn't a championship squad in terms of help imo.

I posted this in the other thread...the last two Bucks teams remind me a lot of the 06/07 Mavs. Really good teams, but just not legit championship level help historically.

Take out Butler and Giannis

You want Miami's help over Milwaukee? No way

[DMAVS41]

They're getting decimated in the 2nd round by a 4th seed. Does the MVP/DPOY need a championship caliber squad to get past the 2nd round? I don't get it.

Did you miss the part where I said..."again, no excuse for this series"????

[DMAVS41]

Take out Butler and Giannis

You want Miami's help over Milwaukee? No way

I'd have to think about that.

But, again...I'm not talking about this series...I said absolutely no excuse.

Just like there was no excuse for Dirk in 07 playing poorly like that...but a lot of the issues were with the team and really not him. I think the same thing here.

[CelticBaller]

Remember

No Excuses

[imdaman99]

I like Middleton but I don't think he's a championship #2.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

1) Bad look if Giannis gets the MVP. Still an unfinished product
2) If Giannis uses this series loss and team failure as excuse to team hop to a loaded team, he‘d reach KD levels of unlikeability.

This is on him. He‘s been dog shit.

His team is good.

He certainly choked, but his team is not that good. He is a deserving MVP since the MVP is a regular season award and he took the bucks to the playoffs. The four best players on the Bucks besides the Greek Freak are Middleton, Bledsoe, Lopez and George Hill. That is not a good supporting cast. I'm not defending him since he certainly could have played better and has not been great this series, but the Bucks are fools gold even more than last year.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

I like Middleton but I don't think he's a championship #2.

Lol, no. The Bucks roster is extremely flawed. Look, the Greek Freak has been bad this series for sure, but the Bucks were always fools gold. He would have to play truly special for them to win. He of course hasn't been special and deserves his share of blame for the loss.

[tpols]

Look...he deserves shit for this...assuming they don't somehow make history.

But, again, evaluate his help...does he actually have championship help? Again, no excuse for this series...but this isn't a championship squad in terms of help imo.

I posted this in the other thread...the last two Bucks teams remind me a lot of the 06/07 Mavs. Really good teams, but just not legit championship level help historically.

Championship help?

He's down 0-3 in the second round lmao. His team definitely put him in a position to win this game.

But it turns out... just bull rushing the rim for dunks and layups isn't an effective strategy for a first option player in half court playoff basketball.

[Roundball_Rock]

I like Middleton but I don't think he's a championship #2.

Agreed. He would be a good #3 guy on a title team but is miscast as a #2 in an era where guys like Davis, Westbrook, and George are #2's on contenders.

[DMAVS41]

Championship help?

He's down 0-3 in the second round lmao. His team definitely put him in a position to win.

But it turns out just bull rushing the rim for dunks and layups isn't an effective strategy for a first option player in half court playoff basketball.

So let me ask you this.

When Dirk lost in the first round in 07...was he just not capable (again, he deserves blame of course because he played like shit) or do you think it also maybe had something to do with his help/coaching?

[tpols]

So let me ask you this.

When Dirk lost in the first round in 07...was he just not capable (again, he deserves blame of course because he played like shit) or do you think it also maybe had something to do with his help/coaching?

Dirk made the finals the year before playing lights out all time great vs a stacked san antonio spurs. It's embarrassing that you would ever compare Dirk as a first option offensive player to Giannis.

Giannis's failures aren't built off a one year anomaly failure that all great players have ~ kobe '04, lebron '11, magic '84, etc. He has fundamentally floundered in the playoffs over and over due to a lack of basketball skill.

Why would you deny this?

[DMAVS41]

Dirk made the finals the year before playing lights out all time great vs a stacked san antonio spurs. It's embarrassing that you would ever compare Dirk as a first option offensive player to Giannis.

Giannis's failures aren't built off a one year anomaly failure that all great players have ~ kobe '04, lebron '11, magic '84, etc. He has fundamentally floundered in the playoffs over and over due to a lack of basketball skill.

Why would you deny this?

I'm not comparing the players...I already said Dirk clearly got more out of his teams.

I'm comparing the situations...I think you guys are over-rating his help because of elite regular season play/wins...which is largely because of Giannis. Which is similar to the 07 Mavs winning 67...I'm not saying Giannis was as good as Dirk.

[NBAGOAT]

Dirk made the finals the year before playing lights out all time great vs a stacked san antonio spurs. It's embarrassing that you would ever compare Dirk as a first option offensive player to Giannis.

Giannis's failures aren't built off a one year anomaly failure that all great players have ~ kobe '04, lebron '11, magic '84, etc. He has fundamentally floundered in the playoffs over and over due to a lack of basketball skill.

Why would you deny this?

well over and over is 2 years for giannis lol. Bron was bad in 2010 at the end too. Kobe and magic have other down years So yea you're right about his skill but you may need to hold off on these broad conclusions