Has an MVP ever lost face like Giannis just did?

[Gray GOAT]

I can't recall any, this has to be rock bottom for an MVP ever. On the verge of getting swept, getting severely outplayed by Butler, quitting on your team not even halfway into the game and then they proceed to win without you, with Khris ''not a second option'' Middleton dominating in the clutch. Talk about choking MVP superstars all you want, at least they showed up. Dirk in 07 was bad, but this is just plain godawful. Giannis better not somehow show up for game 5 now.

[Marchesk]

I mean, maybe it would have been better for the Heat in 2011 if Lebron had just quit halfway through the series.

[Gray GOAT]

I mean, maybe it would have been better for the Heat in 2011 if Lebron had just quit halfway through the series.

He wasn't the MVP that year. Nice try though. ;) I do understand you were under the impression he was the MVP, but LeBron got robbed, just like every other year he didn't win.

[Kblaze8855]

With Dirk and Malone going out in upsets scoring I think 11 and 8 points....with one of them the biggest upset by record I believe ever....both in mvp seasons?

This likely isn’t top 2 just among power forwards.

[CelticGangster]

The Beta Male

[Gohan]

He wasn't the MVP that year. Nice try though. ;) I do understand you were under the impression he was the MVP, but LeBron got robbed, just like every other year he didn't win.

You must really be on that dope the only two mvps lebron deserves was in Cleveland. She shouldn’t of won them in Miami cause there were too top heavy

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

With Dirk and Malone going out in upsets scoring I think 11 and 8 points....with one of them the biggest upset by record I believe ever....both in mvp seasons?

This likely isn’t top 2 just among power forwards.

Giannis was down 0-3 and Bucks have been better with him on the bench all series.

Bucks were #1 seed, heavy favorites to win the series and the favorites to win the title

Not only was Giannis down 0-3 they literally won 1 game without him

This is much lower than either of those series

[DMAVS41]

Giannis was down 0-3 and Bucks have been better with him on the bench all series.

Bucks were #1 seed, heavy favorites to win the series and the favorites to win the title

Not only was Giannis down 0-3 they literally won 1 game without him

This is much lower than either of those series

Lets let this play out first. It isn't over yet.

I agree so far it is bad...probably worse than those other two after what happened today and with Giannis making the game losing foul in game 2.

I also think these guys take too much shit for the most part, but the Bucks winning today is obviously a bad look for him...I'd bet just about anything the Mavs couldn't do that without Dirk in 07 against the Warriors.

[ImKobe]

I don't see how this game makes him look that bad. He played 11 minutes and still ended up being the 2nd best scorer on his team with 19 points, the game went to OT. If anything, the injury gives him an out because he got hurt in the 1st quarter of Game 3 and now again in the 2nd quarter of Game 4. There's no excuse for Dirk losing in the 1st round like he did. The Heat look like they're good enough to potentially make a Finals run, many "experts" picked them over the Bucks going into the series.

[Axe]

Giannis was down 0-3 and Bucks have been better with him on the bench all series.

Bucks were #1 seed, heavy favorites to win the series and the favorites to win the title

Not only was Giannis down 0-3 they literally won 1 game without him

This is much lower than either of those series
Well, he still played in the first two quarters before he came to the bench tho. So nice try, queer.

[FromDowntown]

I don't see how this game makes him look that bad. He played 11 minutes and still ended up being the 2nd best scorer on his team with 19 points, the game went to OT. If anything, the injury gives him an out because he got hurt in the 1st quarter of Game 3 and now again in the 2nd quarter of Game 4. There's no excuse for Dirk losing in the 1st round like he did. The Heat look like they're good enough to potentially make a Finals run, many "experts" picked them over the Bucks going into the series.

Dumb :lol

[Kblaze8855]

Giannis was down 0-3 and Bucks have been better with him on the bench all series.

Bucks were #1 seed, heavy favorites to win the series and the favorites to win the title

Not only was Giannis down 0-3 they literally won 1 game without him

This is much lower than either of those series

Nothing will ever be worse than losing in the first round with a67 win team to a team that itself lost in 5 to Carlos Boozer. Not that that really meant anything either.

[DMAVS41]

I don't see how this game makes him look that bad. He played 11 minutes and still ended up being the 2nd best scorer on his team with 19 points, the game went to OT. If anything, the injury gives him an out because he got hurt in the 1st quarter of Game 3 and now again in the 2nd quarter of Game 4. There's no excuse for Dirk losing in the 1st round like he did. The Heat look like they're good enough to potentially make a Finals run, many "experts" picked them over the Bucks going into the series.

I agree these players take too much shit.

But you mention Dirk and say no excuse, but there is no way in hell his teammates could go out and win a game like this against the Warriors...let alone a better team in the Heat.

When you don't have reliable help and your star struggles...some strange results can happen. Also, built into this, is penalizing guys like Giannis and Dirk for getting their teams to as many wins as they did. You'll hear them categorized as a "67 win team" without the context of the actual players on said team.

[Kblaze8855]

Being a 41 win team I suspect every team could beat the warriors once even without their best player. For all the talk of them being hot they sure fizzled vs the jazz.

[DMAVS41]

Matchups are very important in NBA playoff series...and the Mavs matched up really poorly. If Dirk goes out...it is what? More Damp? More Croshere? More Buckner? They were already playing Devean George a bit...I don't know I can't even remember everyone from that team.

But, yes...anything is possible. Just highly unlikely.

Think the Warriors won 42 fyi...probably more like the quality of a 50 win team if healthy.

And that needs to be mentioned for Giannis. This is a bad matchup for him and the Bucks imo. Their defensive strategy just doesn't work nearly as well against a team like the Heat...and Bam is one of the few guys in the league that can at least do a little to bother him athletically.

[STATUTORY]

Replace the best player on any championship team with Giannis, and that team immediately gets WORSE

a non-jump shooting, non post game having ball dominant SF is a liability on any chamipnship caliber team

worship stats and muscles over basketball skills brehs

[kawhileonard2]

Dirk in 2007

[Stanley Kobrick]

stephen curry blew a 3-1 lead wih HCA to Matthew Dellavedova

[1987_Lakers]

Dirk losing in the 1st round in '07 was pretty brutal, I still remember all the crap he got for it.

[Pipes2.0]

Bron quitting against the Celtics in the 2010 playoffs.

[FromDowntown]

Bron quitting against the Celtics in the 2010 playoffs.

27/9/7/2/1 is a quit :lol

Hell, I guess the entire league quits every year then :roll: :roll:

2 ez

[AussieSteve]

I don't see how this game makes him look that bad. He played 11 minutes and still ended up being the 2nd best scorer on his team with 19 points, the game went to OT. If anything, the injury gives him an out because he got hurt in the 1st quarter of Game 3 and now again in the 2nd quarter of Game 4. There's no excuse for Dirk losing in the 1st round like he did. The Heat look like they're good enough to potentially make a Finals run, many "experts" picked them over the Bucks going into the series.

Why are you making excuses for Giannis that you would NEVER allow to be made for LeBron.

[Pipes2.0]

27/9/7/2/1 is a quit :lol

Hell, I guess the entire league quits every year then :roll: :roll:

2 ez

Copy and pasting his stats doesn't mean anything baby boi.

He was already looking forward to going to South Beach that Summer. I'm glad that he did though, because the rest was history (2016 - greatest championship ever).

[FromDowntown]

Copy and pasting his stats doesn't mean anything baby boi.

He was already looking forward to going to South Beach that Summer. I'm glad that he did though, because the rest was history (2016 - greatest championship ever).

If 27/9/7/2/1 is a "quit" then I guess the entire league quits baby boi :lol Keep up

[Sarcastic]

If 27/9/7/2/1 is a "quit" then I guess the entire league quits baby boi :lol Keep up

Giannis is currently putting up 23/13/7.

Stats can be meaningless without context.

[FromDowntown]

Giannis is currently putting up 23/13/7.

Stats can be meaningless without context.



4x less steals with less scoring, blocks, and assists.

So everything less. Sweet :lol

[Smoke117]

Dirk.

[Gougou]

07 Dirk...

This Giannis atleast beat the Orlando Magic during 1st round.

[light]

I mean, maybe it would have been better for the Heat in 2011 if Lebron had just quit halfway through the series.

No it wouldn't have been. That's the difference. The Bucks win without Giannis. They consistently win without Giannis, don't they? LeBron's teams don't do that.

[Overdrive]

If 27/9/7/2/1 is a "quit" then I guess the entire league quits baby boi :lol Keep up

Breakdown of the games... Averages are useless when he had a 7/18 22pt game and a 3/14 15pt game.

[Euroleague]

Greek national team always plays better without Giannis. Giannis only helps a team, if the opponent is not even trying on defense. In a serious game, Giannis is a disaster in half court offense, and he completely dominates the ball and ruins the rhythm of his teammates.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Dirk is the worst flameout by an MVP of my lifetime. You can't lose in the first round of the playoffs to an 8 seed if you are the MVP. I know it is a regular season award, but you should have to win at least a round in the playoffs or you really aren't that valuable.

[imdaman99]

Westbrook lost in the 1st round the year he won MVP

[FromDowntown]

Westbrook lost in the 1st round the year he won MVP

1 seed to 8 seed doe?

[FromDowntown]

Breakdown of the games... Averages are useless when he had a 7/18 22pt game and a 3/14 15pt game.

So one playoff series which consists of 4 to 7 games is too large a sample now? :lol You're a joke my son.

[LoneyROY7]

Greek national team always plays better without Giannis. Giannis only helps a team, if the opponent is not even trying on defense. In a serious game, Giannis is a disaster in half court offense, and he completely dominates the ball and ruins the rhythm of his teammates.

The man, the myth, the legend.

The OG who saw Giannis as a complete fraud from the very beginning. Euroleague was a step ahead.

:applause: :applause:

[Overdrive]

So one playoff series which consists of 4 to 7 games is too large a sample now? :lol You're a joke my son.

If you play like utter shit in 2 loses they are on you. No matter if you got fancy averages. It isn't about sample size. In a playoff series every game is meaningful and producing 2 loses that could be wins in a series that went to 6 is the difference between advancing or not.

[WhiteKyrie]

Westbrook lost in the 1st round the year he won MVP

He didn’t deserve it either

[Facepalm]

Has an MVP ever lost face like Giannis just did?

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[Turbo Slayer]

Dirk probably.

[Gray GOAT]

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This gif has lost all meaning and context. Robinson got outplayed, but it's not like he scored single digits, just mailed it in and the Spurs got swept.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Dirk is probably the worst. But there were some extenuating circumstances for the Mavs to be that bad.

Dirk's family had a health scare going on with Dirk's dad.

Avery played a certain lineup all year. After they started out 0-4, he pushed them so hard. Which that in in of itself wasn't a problem per se but just like the way Thibodeaux pushed his teams and the ay Dantoni pushes his teams, the Mavs suffered a little burnout. And that was especially true when they had the "Little General" screaming at them when adversity arose.

And while Dampier may not have been a great center.... Avery chose to not go big against GS. He instead chose to put Devean George as the Mavs center. A lineup that they had not used all year. And that in of itself created problems on both sides of the ball because no one knew their roles with that change. And the playoffs is not the time to throw sh(t on the wall and see what sticks. Gameplan and adjustments, sure. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Not hardly.

The Mavs could not shoot at all. Dirk shot bad: 38%. But he wasn't the only one:

Terry: 42%
Stackhouse: 35%
George: 20%
Buckner: 0%
Croshere: 33%

The only one who played decent was Howard. Outside of Howard, the only one who shot decent was Harris at 49%. But Don Nelson wanted him to shoot anything outside 3 feet. He shot basically 30% on anything that wasn't a layup.

I firmly believe if Carlisle was the coach that year, the Mavs win the championship.