Has a player ever beat two healthy MVPs in their primes on the same team

[Manny98]

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[Manny98]

Would LeGOAT be the first?

[hold this L]

Westbrook in his prime?

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[uber]

Westbrook in his prime?

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Please don't question the agenda

[Manny98]

Westbrook in his prime?

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He averaged 27/7/7 this year and he's only 31 same age as Harden :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

AD doing GOAT things :applause:

[Lebron23]

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Rockets would be an nba dynasty if they play in the 1990's.

[Bronbron23]

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Westbrooks not in his prime. But if we're pretending he is then both dirk and kawhi did one better. They beat 2 FMVP's in their primes.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Series isn't over yet, but it is incredible to think of all the great teams Lebron has beat in his career. How many MVPs has he beat in their prime? Not to mention beat the 61 win Bulls during Rose's MVP season without homecourt advantage.

[Gudo]

Please don't question the agenda

:lol :lol :lol

[Manny98]

Westbrooks not in his prime. But if we're pretending he is then both dirk and kawhi did one better. They beat 2 FMVP's in their primes.
Westbrook is only 31 so he's still in his prime

And neither Dirk or Kawhi did that

[ImKobe]

Series isn't over yet, but it is incredible to think of all the great teams Lebron has beat in his career. How many MVPs has he beat in their prime? Not to mention beat the 61 win Bulls during Rose's MVP season without homecourt advantage.

Lebron isn't even the best player in the series, he's 3rd.

[Shogon]

Westbrook in his prime?

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It's time to learn the difference between 'prime' and 'peak', buddy!

Because they are not the same thing.

[Shogon]

Lebron isn't even the best player in the series, he's 3rd.

You're an awful poster and about one bad post from me never seeing the bullshit coming out of your fingers again.

[ImKobe]

You're an awful poster and about one bad post from me never seeing the bullshit coming out of your fingers again.

Well, you guys love using ppg & GameScore, guess where Lebron ranks in the series? Also, you're narrow-minded in your posts, look at the thread I'm replying in.

[TheCorporation]

Imagine doing it twice

See: 2012 Finals

:lebronamazed:

[Shogon]

Well, you guys love using ppg & GameScore, guess where Lebron ranks in the series? Also, you're narrow-minded in your posts, look at the thread I'm replying in.

"You guys"? Who are you even arguing with? You're just pulling shit out of your ass.

Bill Russell is the GOAT, dipshit.

[ImKobe]

"You guys"? Who are you even arguing with? You're just pulling shit out of your ass.

Bill Russell is the GOAT, dipshit.

Why are you so angry at me, then? This is obviously a troll thread and I'm using OP's logic against him.

[Shogon]

Why are you so angry at me, then? This is obviously a troll thread and I'm using OP's logic against him.

I'm angry at life in general. But as for you... bye bye! No more pretend LeBron fans that constantly talk shit about him on my screen, lul.

[ImKobe]

I'm angry at life in general. But as for you... bye bye! No more pretend LeBron fans that constantly talk shit about him on my screen, lul.

Oh poor Lebron. I'm sure he feels safer at night with loyal fans like you constantly defending him online.

[Manny98]

Imagine doing it twice

See: 2012 Finals

:lebronamazed:
With KD as well :lebronamazed:

[Roundball_Rock]

You're an awful poster and about one bad post from me never seeing the bullshit coming out of your fingers again.

He is 3ball Jr. :lol

The people who beat the Lakers in 03' and 04' and beat the KD/Russ Thunder come to mind--unless you mean players who had already won a MVP by that point (which excludes Kobe and Russ).

Wade never won MVP, although he was 3rd and 5th in a couple seasons.

[RRR3]

Lebron isn't even the best player in the series, he's 3rd.
Seething.

[ArbitraryWater]

Westbrook in his prime?

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Having his 2nd best season ever by far

[Roundball_Rock]

Seething.

Notice he doesn't want to talk "efficiency" anymore? LeBron is 28/9/7 on 64% TS. When did Kobe ever do that in a series? For the PO, he is 28/10/9 on 68% TS. Numbers Kobe could only dream of.

Most people recognize there is "bubble" inflation, but 3ball Jr. didn't say anything about that when it come to other players, like George and Butler, so...

[Turbo Slayer]

It´s crazy how LeBron is having an all-time great playoff run at nearly the age of 36. It´s similiar to 2018 but the offensive burden is spread more evenly with AD.

[ImKobe]

Notice he doesn't want to talk "efficiency" anymore? LeBron is 28/9/7 on 64% TS. When did Kobe ever do that in a series? For the PO, he is 28/10/9 on 68% TS. Numbers Kobe could only dream of.

Most people recognize there is "bubble" inflation, but 3ball Jr. didn't say anything about that when it come to other players, like George and Butler, so...

Lebron is the 2nd best player on his team. Efficiency bump aside, that's just factual as of right now. Kobe's averaged 34/7/8 on 64%TS in a Playoff series btw and that's with just 2.5 turnovers per game. He was by far the best player in the series & on his team, Lebron currently in the Rockets' series is the 3rd best player in terms of ppg and gamescore -- stats you Lebron nutriders have loved to use in all your other threads. His teammate is leading the Playoffs in PER, WS/48 & BPM. Don't think anyone isn't seeing through your shtick btw.

[Stephonit]

Stephen Curry probably comes closest to the spirit of the question.

[SouBeachTalents]

I don't care if he's not an MVP, beating LeBron/Wade (and Bosh) without HCA is infinitely more impressive then beating the 2020 version of Westbrook

[Gohan]

Lmao at shogun calling someone a trash poster

[light]

Westbrooks not in his prime. But if we're pretending he is then both dirk and kawhi did one better. They beat 2 FMVP's in their primes.

Tony Parker and Chauncey Billups were FMVPs. It's not the same thing. It's harder to win MVP. You have to be the best player for months, not just over 7 games.

[imdaman99]

Imagine doing it twice

See: 2012 Finals

:lebronamazed:

Damn. He beat 3 MVPs in their prime :lebronamazed: :bowdown:

Who has the record for most MVPs in their primes in 1 series? It's gotta be Lebron.

[Roundball_Rock]

Tony Parker and Chauncey Billups were FMVPs. It's not the same thing. It's harder to win MVP. You have to be the best player for months, not just over 7 games.

Agreed, and it isn't even 7 games in practice. Iggy won it based on 3 games, for example.

[Round Mound]

2011 Dirk?

[TheCorporation]

With KD as well :lebronamazed:

How does LeGoat do it?

[TheCorporation]

Lmao at shogun calling someone a trash poster

Shut it noob

[Axe]

Lmao at shogun calling someone a trash poster
Prolly the most butthurt crybaby poster in this board. Somebody should shoot this bitch in the balls or blow his fukking head off.

[Bronbron23]

Tony Parker and Chauncey Billups were FMVPs. It's not the same thing. It's harder to win MVP. You have to be the best player for months, not just over 7 games.

That's b.s it goes both ways. Theres been many times where the fmvp was better than the mvp. Lets just look at the last decade. 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016 , 2015, 2014 and 2011. Give me a fmvp over any regular season award any day

[Bronbron23]

Westbrook is only 31 so he's still in his prime

And neither Dirk or Kawhi did that

Wade was like 29 in 2011 and 32 in 2014 dude so thats just b.s

[Gohan]

I’ll take regular season mvp over finals mvp also

Well it takes at least two finals mvps for me to take it over mvp. Finals mvp has become the most overrated award by a landslide. No other award is even close

[Bronbron23]

Having his 2nd best season ever by far

Everyone is having a great year this year. This is why stats aren't a good measure of shit. Westbrook is clearly not having one of his best years ever. He's not even a top 15 player this year.

[Axe]

Everyone is having a great year this year. This is why stats aren't a good measure of shit. Westbrook is clearly not having one of his best years ever. He's not even a top 15 player this year.
Not stephen curry tho :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

Rockets would be an nba dynasty if they play in the 1990's.:roll: thanks i needed a good laugh

[Bronbron23]

I’ll take regular season mvp over finals mvp also

Well it takes at least two finals mvps for me to take it over mvp. Finals mvp has become the most overrated award by a landslide. No other award is even close

yall talking shit. This year the fmvp will be better than mvp, 2019 fmvp better than mvp. 2018 fmvp better than mvp. 2017 fmvp better than mvp. 2016 fmvp better than mvp. Shall i continue?

[TheCorporation]

Prolly the most butthurt crybaby poster in this board. Somebody should shoot this bitch in the balls or blow his fukking head off.

:biggums:

[Axe]

:biggums:
Quiet down slick

[TheCorporation]

Quiet down slick

Close your lips slick

[Axe]

Close your lips slick
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[Jailblazers7]

2011 Dirk?

This was my first thought. :oldlol:

In fact, I was wondering if the OP an anti-Lebron troll by setting that one up.

[FKAri]

How bout 3?

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2018/03/gettyimages-145626068.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

ALL IN THEIR PRIMES

[FromDowntown]

How bout 3?

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2018/03/gettyimages-145626068.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

ALL IN THEIR PRIMES

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[Bronbron23]

How bout 3?

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2018/03/gettyimages-145626068.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

ALL IN THEIR PRIMES

22 and 23 is a players prime now? Love how some bron stans constantly move the goal post to fit their narrative.

[Axe]

How bout 3?

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2018/03/gettyimages-145626068.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

ALL IN THEIR PRIMES
Did you just have too much meth again for breakfast

[Roundball_Rock]

22 and 23 is a players prime now? Love how some bron stans constantly move the goal post to fit their narrative.

Westbrook was all-NBA 2nd team in 12', KD 1st team and 2nd in MVP in 12' so they were but no case for Harden being in his prime in 12'.

[Stephonit]

Not stephen curry tho :oldlol:

After 5 straight finals appearances he's getting some much needed rest while the team retools and instead of being stuck in a bubble he's free to go on vacation. Light years.

[ClipperRevival]

That means Billups da GOAT.

Took down 2 top 10 players in Shaq/Kobe. Not to mention, beat 3 MVPs to boot (add Malone).

Damn.

:bowdown:

[Bronbron23]

Westbrook was all-NBA 2nd team in 12', KD 1st team and 2nd in MVP in 12' so they were but no case for Harden being in his prime in 12'.

Just because they had alot of success and were among the top players in the league it dosn't mean they were in their prime. Like you say harden definitely wasn't. Id argue kd wasn't also. Defensively he wasn't anywhere near the player he was when he won his chips in golden state. He also wasnt as smart or mature. He learned alot in golden state. That version of kd wipes the floor with the 12 version. You could make a case for westbrook being the same just because he really hasnt grown much. He still cant shoot and he still makes bone headed decisions.

[TheCorporation]

How bout 3?

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/36/2018/03/gettyimages-145626068.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

ALL IN THEIR PRIMES

It's just 2 ez

All the GOAT rings
All the GOAT records

[Roundball_Rock]

Just because they had alot of success and were among the top players in the league it dosn't mean they were in their prime. Like you say harden definitely wasn't. Id argue kd wasn't also. Defensively he wasn't anywhere near the player he was when he won his chips in golden state. He also wasnt as smart or mature. He learned alot in golden state. That version of kd wipes the floor with the 12 version. You could make a case for westbrook being the same just because he really hasnt grown much. He still cant shoot and he still makes bone headed decisions.

I would say KD, Westbrook were in their primes but not close to their peaks. Primes can be really long. For healthy players of their caliber you are usually taking 7-8 year runs, for lesser players maybe 4-5, and the guys with the GOAT longevity can have a full decade like KAJ (1970-1980) for a prime.

Westbrook's prime probably will be remembered as being 2011-2018. Some may argue 2011-2017 but he was still top 5 in MVP in 18' and better than Paul George. With KD we have to see but most likely 2010-2019, assuming he declines due to injuries and aging when he comes back in 21'.

[Bronbron23]

I would say KD, Westbrook were in their primes but not close to their peaks. Primes can be really long. For healthy players of their caliber you are usually taking 7-8 year runs, for lesser players maybe 4-5, and the guys with the GOAT longevity can have a full decade like KAJ (1970-1980) for a prime.

Westbrook's prime probably will be remembered as being 2011-2018. Some may argue 2011-2017 but he was still top 5 in MVP in 18' and better than Paul George. With KD we have to see but most likely 2010-2019, assuming he declines due to injuries and aging when he comes back in 21'.

I guess it depends what you consider prime. I consider it to be when the physical and mental are close to the same level. For most basketball thats probably 26-32. To me the absolute peak of that would only be a few years when the 2 meshed together are at its highest. Maybe 27 to 30. This is just a base of course. Someone like bron had a longer prime than most. Other players have had much shorter primes.

I definitely wouldn't say kd or most players are in there prime at 22. I think your underestimating the importance of the mental side of the game which usually comes a bit later. Again there can be exceptions to this like magic, luka and bron but i wouldn't put kd in that category.