The POTUS is on tape admitting he down played the pandemic

[TheMan]

Why would he ever agree to let a reporter record him admitting that is beyond me. If he loses, this is the exact reason why...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54094559

[Shogon]

I can't imagine being obsessed with another country's leadership... lol, like what?

[Patrick Chewing]

Downplaying it and doing nothing about it is one thing. Downplaying it to not cause mass hysteria, and still implementing procedures to prevent the spread is another.



Everyone was downplaying it, even Dr. Fauci, even Joe Biden, even Nancy Pelosi, even CNN. Then, Trump did what was asked and recommended by his advisors.



/Thread

[starface]

Downplaying it and doing nothing about it is one thing. Downplaying it to not cause mass hysteria, and still implementing procedures to prevent the spread is another.



Everyone was downplaying it, even Dr. Fauci, even Joe Biden, even Nancy Pelosi, even CNN. Then, Trump did what was asked and recommended by his advisors.



/Thread


Yep. If you look at the timeline, all the Dems downplayed it initially at first, then as soon as Trump downplayed it they immediately switched to the other side and began pushing the hysteria. It was an obvious political bait and switch.

Just like ending wars and reworking trade became “bad” once Trump did them. The two parties always have to keep up the appearance of being opposite each other.

And it obviously works, look how many idiots fall for these transparent political charades.

[Patrick Chewing]

And Biden called him "xenophobic" for banning flights from China :oldlol:

[starface]

It’s crazy how easily the media can spin a misleading narrative, and guys like OP will just go in for it with no questions asked.

#WhatATime

[Penetrator]

He's obviously racist for closing borders :lol

OP full retard as usual

[Kblaze8855]

Can just once the defense be “Obviously there were lies but I don’t care”?

He obviously downplayed it....has said or had official spokespeople say he didn’t....now there’s tape of him saying he did.

He lied.

Every human walking this earth with the power of speech has lied before. But in politics a persons fans just can’t say the words. Like there’s a domino situation where it makes all other claims of dishonesty more valid once you admit to obvious ones right in front of you.

If there was no tape his supporters would be calling it another lie but with no option of that it’s essentially “He did it but...so?” when his stance has been that he didn’t for months.

It’s a lie. Like many many others. He got caught in this one.

Clever Trump voters know he’s a massive fraud on many issues and don’t care so long as he’s doing things they approve of. The not so clever ones actually believes he’s some hardcore Christian warrior for god and every negative thing ever said was entirely fabricated. So he’s not gonna lose votes due to lying...but on this particular one...it’s on tape.

Why bother with a defense when it doesn’t matter if he lied or not to you?

Not like Biden never lied. Or Obama. Or either Bush. Or anyone alive or dead in or out of politics.

But “He lied” is just so tough to say without qualifiers for some reason.

[Patrick Chewing]

Can just once the defense be “Obviously there were lies but I don’t care”?

He obviously downplayed it....has said or had official spokespeople say he didn’t....now there’s tape of him saying he did.

He lied.

Every human walking this earth with the power of speech has lied before. But in politics a persons fans just can’t say the words. Like there’s a domino situation where it makes all other claims of dishonesty more valid once you admit to obvious ones right in front of you.

If there was no tape his supporters would be calling it another lie but with no option of that it’s essentially “He did it but...so?” when his stance has been that he didn’t for months.

It’s a lie. Like many many others. He got caught in this one.

Clever Trump voters know he’s a massive fraud on many issues and don’t care so long as he’s doing things they approve of. The not so clever ones actually believes he’s some hardcore Christian warrior for god and every negative thing ever said was entirely fabricated. So he’s not gonna lose votes due to lying...but on this particular one...it’s on tape.

Why bother with a defense when it doesn’t matter if he lied or not to you?

Not like Biden never lied. Or Obama. Or either Bush. Or anyone alive or dead in or out of politics.

But “He lied” is just so tough to say without qualifiers for some reason.


But your "lie" is attached to guilt. At least you want it to be. And your "lie" is so minuscule that it's a complete waste of time and petty to address.

[Kblaze8855]

So you’re putting it in quotes because....what? I’m saying it’s a lie and it isn’t? You seem to be saying it’s a lie at the end but also making sure to quote it so it’s me saying it not you.

Are you not capable of calling it what it is?

[bladefd]

Roses are red, sky is blue, clouds are white, summer is warm, winter is cold, Trump told another lie & got caught. What else is new?

All he knows how to do is lie and lie and lie until a tape comes out then his administration changes the topic or distracts you with something else, hoping you forget about the lie. Usually that something else is another scandal or another lie. We jump from subject to subject, lie to lie until the original lie is forgotten.

We also know Trump supporters like Pattychew will suck up anything Trump sells them. Trump can stand on Washington Avenue and drop his trousers, and I bet Trump supporters, including the loudest homophobes in the room like Patty, will gladly drop to their knees and suck him off. Trumpeters are the real suckers in all this for acting as if Trump was a saint. You can say what you want about democrats, but most of them don't look at Biden as a deity on this special pedestal like most Republicans look at Trump. That is the very definition of being a "sucker"..

[Patrick Chewing]

So you’re putting it in quotes because....what? I’m saying it’s a lie and it isn’t? You seem to be saying it’s a lie at the end but also making sure to quote it so it’s me saying it not you.

Are you not capable of calling it what it is?

So he said he didn't downplay it, then he said he did, so what? What is your point? That he lied about saying it, or that he lied about acting appropriately regardless?

My point is, it doesn't matter if he said he didn't downplay it and then said he did. His actions to prevent the spread are indicative of him not acting out his desire to downplay it. So yes, in essence, he did not downplay it.


Your focus is on the wrong thing. That's like saying Trump said he's going to hold a rally at 8pm on Friday, but instead starts the rally at 9. It's a lie....but it's so inconsequential that for people to emphasize and obsess over it, it really says something about how disturbed that person might be.

[Kblaze8855]

So obviously he lied but you don’t care. That what it boils down to? Or can you not leave it that direct? I asked that to begin with.

I can tell you without question that everyone I’ve ever supported politically was a liar.

Donald Trump is in fact a liar. Of course in personal situations like all of us....and in this situation...in politics when addressing the press and nation. He took questions and lied.

I don’t think one needs to be “disturbed” to say so.

Is leaving it as simple as “He lied” not something you feel comfortable with? Leave too much room to question other things when you acknowledge we are dealing with someone willing to lie to the press and people?

Even though virtually every politician is?

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't care about this lie because I'm not disappointed or upset with his response to the pandemic. But by God Bob Woodward decided he needed to write an entire book on this inconsequential lie lol.

If Trump had said he did everything he could to stop the pandemic, and then was recorded saying he didn't do everything he could to stop the spread, then I'd have a bigger issue with him and his response.


It's the same argument people make over making Mexico pay for the wall. I get people that argue with me that Trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall. Yeah...and? The wall is still being built. These little inconsequential lies are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Does he lie? Yes. Do we all lie? Yes.

[Kblaze8855]

So when you know you’re dealing with a person who has lied to the press and lied to people who support him in rallies and all that....

When someone calls him a liar on other issues do you take issue?

Do you believe the only things he’s lied about are the ones with video/audio to prove it?

I feel like....you probably don’t. I think when we get past the trolling and jokes you probably know you’re dealing with a dishonest politician manipulating the stupid while hoping the people who see what he’s doing still prefer his actions to those they assume his opponents would be doing. I’d imagine those are the two camps of his supporters.

Actual stupid people who see him using a bible as a prop in a photoshoot and actually believe he’s genuinely some kinda godly guy....and people of normal intelligence who see he’s a fraud but laugh along with him as he does things they want done.

Im thinking that’s gotta be 90% of his support. I get why the idiots and gullible old people would defend his general honesty when it’s attacked. They actually believe he’s always telling the truth and the media fabricated every single report about him. It’s sad...but they believe it.


I gotta think you know...he’s often full of shit. But don’t care.

And if that’s your position....why argue when people are saying he’s full of shit and lying about reports not being true?

If you accept that he lies to the media and the people but you aren’t concerned so long as his actions are what you wish....why defend against the people always calling him out?

How many votes does he lose being exposed as a liar when half his base are stupid enough to believe the media make up every negative report and half know he’s a liar and don’t care?

Not many....right?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Remember when Trump said our war dead are suckers and losers?
Chewing said it was not true because it was not recorded.
Well we have recordings now.
Recordings are what brought down Nixon and soon Trump.

[tpols]

Can just once the defense be “Obviously there were lies but I don’t care”?

He obviously downplayed it....has said or had official spokespeople say he didn’t....now there’s tape of him saying he did.

He lied.

Every human walking this earth with the power of speech has lied before. But in politics a persons fans just can’t say the words. Like there’s a domino situation where it makes all other claims of dishonesty more valid once you admit to obvious ones right in front of you.

If there was no tape his supporters would be calling it another lie but with no option of that it’s essentially “He did it but...so?” when his stance has been that he didn’t for months.

It’s a lie. Like many many others. He got caught in this one.

Clever Trump voters know he’s a massive fraud on many issues and don’t care so long as he’s doing things they approve of. The not so clever ones actually believes he’s some hardcore Christian warrior for god and every negative thing ever said was entirely fabricated. So he’s not gonna lose votes due to lying...but on this particular one...it’s on tape.

Why bother with a defense when it doesn’t matter if he lied or not to you?

Not like Biden never lied. Or Obama. Or either Bush. Or anyone alive or dead in or out of politics.

But “He lied” is just so tough to say without qualifiers for some reason.

Why are you so permanently triggered by Trump?

You're so predictable.

[Patrick Chewing]

You're reading too much into this. I know Trump is a narcissist and has a huge ego and embellishes like crazy. But this does not equate to him being a dishonest or ineffective politician. He is the anti-politician to me. Look at how he's pissed off Washington, and rightfully so.

His base isn't stupid. We just choose to look past his character flaws and know that what the mainstream media and Democrats are doing to him is unfair and borderline criminal.


Why argue with people who say he's full of shit? Because they are dismissing his actions and accomplishments when they focus on inconsequential nonsense.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why are you so permanently triggered by Trump?

You're so predictable.

He's trying hard to convince us that Trump is a bad guy :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Why are you so permanently triggered by Trump?

You're so predictable.

Even using the words “triggered” and “predictable” in one post should be against some rule. Very few of you have anything to say. You’re just repeating yourselves daily with the same insults and lines which is why I pop into like one in ten of these things trying to get someone to drop the trolling and maybe understand where they are really coming from.

[Kblaze8855]

You're reading too much into this. I know Trump is a narcissist and has a huge ego and embellishes like crazy. But this does not equate to him being a dishonest or ineffective politician. He is the anti-politician to me. Look at how he's pissed off Washington, and rightfully so.

His base isn't stupid. We just choose to look past his character flaws and know that what the mainstream media and Democrats are doing to him is unfair and borderline criminal.


Why argue with people who say he's full of shit? Because they are dismissing his actions and accomplishments when they focus on inconsequential nonsense.


I didn’t say his entire base is stupid. I said people who believe him when he says everything negative is fake news are stupid. There has never been nor will there ever be a politician for whom all negative reports are fiction. But there are people who believe it. And that is because they are stupid. If you see Donald Trump standing with a bible for a photoshoot and believe he’s some devout guy you are stupid. And a lot of people are. Stupid people are required to get enough votes to win anything in America.

You have your stupid base....then people bright enough to see past it and just generally agree with your stated goals and actions. Obama got the stupid black vote to come out in force. Trump gets the stupid white vote. Both obviously with exceptions but it is what it is.

You need blind idiots to get to a baseline number of votes then to win over the people who might actually think a little about what both realistic options are trying to do.

[Kblaze8855]

He's trying hard to convince us that Trump is a bad guy :oldlol:


Of course Trump is an asshole. There wouldn’t be so many people going the “Hes not perfect”, “Hes flawed”, “We aren’t electing someone to be nice” route if it weren’t obvious.

His supporters have to put a thin veil around calling him a piece of shit that way because there’s no question he’s scum.

How many old fat guys ****ing porn stars on the side and handing out non disclosure paperwork to wives, porn star mistresses, and so on would you assume are just great people? Seems everyone around him eventually says he’s a piece of shit you just choose to believe he isn’t when some of his closest advisors report first hand the shit they have seen and done at his behest.

Of course Trump isn’t like...some good person. And I’m fairly sure you know he isn’t. He’s just on your team so you roll with it.

In sure Clinton was something of a scumbag personally too.

But I don’t have to coat it in bullshit and dance around it.

[starface]

Of course Trump is saying he never downplayed it, and of course hes lying, to avoid giving Dems direct ammo in an election.

You are right, 100% of people who have held office have lied. And Chewing is right, this is a 100% inconsequential lie, and everyone already knows where Trump stands, and has decided already where they stand. This is not a lie about anything meaningful. It’s a lie to prevent rabbid media fueled mania. If Trump says “yes I downplayed it” the media headline would be “IMPEACH TRUMP FOR MURDER.” So of course hes not gonna give them a hand with their attempts to undermine his own presidency.

Youre wasting paragraphs on an issue where Trump is far less guilty of being underhanded and shady than the corporate media is.

[SATAN]

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

[Kblaze8855]

There we are. Some(naturally wrapped in unrelated filler) direct acknowledgment.

Obviously you don’t care that he’s lying. I think you would agree that few Trump voters care.

You know he will lie to help election chances as would most any politician.

This is why I have to ask....

When you absolutely know he will lie to the country for political gain....why believe his general defense which is that everyone else is a liar and he’s telling us the truth?

Is your position that he’s a liar and so are the people saying he said or did this or that without proof(very few true things can be proven)? Is it that it all cancels out?

I wouldn’t put it that way myself but if that’s how you see it I could at least understand.

[DoctorP]

Not sure the Trumpwave can survive this one. Seems like self-sabotage even. I don't understand Trump on this.

[TheMan]

I can't imagine being obsessed with another country's leadership... lol, like what?
Can't argue with my OP so deflect, right? Come on, man, very weak...you'd be better off not saying anything at all rather than something so low IQ, I'm disappointed in you bro.

Just to remind y'all...I'm a US citizen so Trump is my president whether I like it or not, just like Biden will be your POTUS this January...it also doesn't matter if you're living within US borders or not, a US citizen is still under the authority/protection of the US government, and the head of the US government is...take a wild guess!

[TheMan]

Not sure the Trumpwave can survive this one. Seems like self-sabotage even. I don't understand Trump on this.

Exactly, why the hell would he agree to being recorded and then say something pretty damaging, to Bob Woodward of all people. Woodward wrote a unflattering book about the Trump White House a couple of years back:confusedshrug:

[starface]

There we are. Some(naturally wrapped in unrelated filler) direct acknowledgment.

Obviously you don’t care that he’s lying. I think you would agree that few Trump voters care.

You know he will lie to help election chances as would most any politician.

This is why I have to ask....

When you absolutely know he will lie to the country for political gain....why believe his general defense which is that everyone else is a liar and he’s telling us the truth?

Is your position that he’s a liar and so are the people saying he said or did this or that without proof(very few true things can be proven)? Is it that it all cancels out?

I wouldn’t put it that way myself but if that’s how you see it I could at least understand.


With regard to what issue?

Which issue specifically is Trump calling a lie, to which an abundance of evidence suggests the opposite?

Downplaying covid? Yes, I already agreed about that, and it’s because he doesnt want to give them a soundbite they will eagerly torpedo him with. To me that isnt a big deal. You seem to think it’s a major scandal.

Is there another issue youre referencing? Or youre just looking for ways to “theoretically” discredit Trump...?

[SATAN]

Can't argue with my OP so deflect, right? Come on, man, very weak...you'd be better off not saying anything at all rather than something so low IQ, I'm disappointed in you bro.

Just to remind y'all...I'm a US citizen so Trump is my president whether I like it or not, just like Biden will be your POTUS this January...it also doesn't matter if you're living within US borders or not, a US citizen is still under the authority/protection of the US government, and the head of the US government is...take a wild guess!

the last anti christ

[Kblaze8855]

Which issue?

I mean all issues. It doesn’t matter what’s being said. He says everything negative is a lie. Am I forgetting one?

Has he ever said a negative report about him wasn’t made up? It’s his general response. Fake news.

[Cleverness]

What's the story here? That Trump downplayed all the doomsday idiots who predicted 20,000,000 Americans would be hospitalized for COVID? His instincts were correct, but Trump completely overreacted to the virus in March by following the quack science of Drs. Fauci/Birx/Adams

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1304029136441282561
Trump saying, in March, he is purposefully trying to give people hope despite Covid being a deadly pandemic.

Dr. Fauci RE Woodward's fake news: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1303762016151232513
Dr. Fauci says that he never got the sense that President Trump was downplaying COVID-19:

"I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

The fact is he followed Dr. Fauci's lead all year.

February: Dr. Fauci: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/)

Fauci: Flu a Bigger Risk in the US Than Coronavirus (https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/02/15/disease-expert--flu-a-bigger-risk-in-the-us-than-coronavirus)

February 29th: Dr. Fauci on coronavirus fears: No need to change lifestyle yet (https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci-on-coronavirus-fears-no-need-to-change-lifestyle-yet-79684677616)

March 8th: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes. (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/health/medical/preventing-coronavirus-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/ar-BB10VE1c)

March 9th: “No reason” not to go on cruise if you’re young and healthy: Fauci (https://globalnews.ca/video/6653403/covid-19-no-reason-not-to-go-on-cruise-if-youre-young-and-healthy-fauci)


Then Fauci did a 180, replaced decades of hard science for pseudoscience, and our politicians caved to media/fear/hysteria and went with draconian lockdowns for 15 days to flatten the curve (which has turned into 2 years of tyranny) http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104037&viewfull=1#post14104037
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104041&viewfull=1#post14104041

They predicted between 10 million to 31 million hospitalizations from COVID (LOL). Actual data from CDC so far is approx 0.4 million http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14103771&viewfull=1#post14103771

[starface]

Which issue?

I mean all issues. It doesn’t matter what’s being said. He says everything negative is a lie. Am I forgetting one?

Has he ever said a negative report about him wasn’t made up? It’s his general response. Fake news.

Is there a difference between lying and misleading?

Because virtually every left wing media report about Trump IS misleading. None of them actually address the issue from a neutral, honest perspective with the best interest of public journalism in mind.

You dont think it’s fair for the subject of a misleading story (and in Trump’s case, the nonstop subject of malicious and overtly misleading stories) to dismiss the story as a lie?

You made the same point Im making in the NBA forum regarding Porter Jrs comments. The media is setting him up to fail. Either he takes the bait and gets scathed maliciously, or he refuses to take the bait and you criticize him for that instead.

Theres no way he can win. So what is there to blame him for? If the media, or people among the public like you, gave him a fair shake and brought your criticism from a genuinely constructive place, that would shift the onus back on him to meet that standard. But if you come to someone with a question and you start the dishonest narrative, dont blame the person who answers for fighting fire with fire.

[tpols]

If anything Trump was RIGHT about corona....

it was totally blown out of proportion and used as a political power grab by big democrat states... who then shamed some red states to follow along by blowing up their numbers artificially and airing non stop media coverage of it.

He's basically been beaten into submission over the issue, and the masses are so stupid he realizes he has to act like he takes it more serious to not offend them and lose votes.

Even kblaze used to argue it was nonsense how overhyped it was at the beginning. Because it was.

Trump was right.

He has a habit of "telling it like it is" and being totally right. Might just say it a crude way. But thats better than a pretty lie.

[Cleverness]

Trump's COVID-19 problem is he overreacted to the virus and completely followed the quack scientists Fauci/Birx/Adams/Etc

Trump didn't want the public to panic, and the public shouldn't have panicked, but the media & CCP drove the hysteria to an 11.

The subtext of every Democrat's critique of Trump's handling of C19 is: we should have locked down more, sooner, harder, and longer. In other words, full totalitarian. Peru style

The lockdowns are straight out of the CCP playbook to destroy ourselves and save nobody https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1270925788389486593.html

Also, lockdowns didn't save shit. that's why Peru is #1 in COVID-19 deaths despite hardest lockdown and mandatory masks, mandatory face shields.

lockdowns, however, will kill millions and starve hundreds of millions of people. (see my prev posts)

[Kblaze8855]

Let’s say you work for a media outlet. Word is the president of the United States paid hush money to a porn star and his own lawyer confirms it. Absurd scenario I know but it’s where we are.

Its your job to cover the goings on. He calls a press conference or decides to take questions(difference between he and Porter...the president can’t be forced to talk to media members).

He calls on you.

Whats the constructive way to ask the sitting president about his side bitch hush money?

How do you ask a president if he talked shit about the troops when one of the highest ranking people in America from the time is likely your source? How do you ask such a question?

Donald Trump stories aren’t everyday politician stories. I don’t know if Marco Rubio has a collection of hookers on non disclosure contracts but if he does his lawyer isn’t confirming it to the public.

Hes not a normal person scandal wise it’s hard to expect normal coverage. It’s hard to ask someone the kinda questions demanded by the many accusations without them being upset about it.

If you’re on tape talking about grabbing women by the ***** in the me too era what kinda questions wouldn’t come off as attacking?

If the president accidentally retweets a video with some guys yelling white power how do you ask him about that without him not liking you? Would you say such a thing shouldn’t be asked about?

How do you word a question on these subjects so a guy isn’t annoyed you asked it while he’s running for president or in office?

Can Donald Trump be covered like a conventional president when he’s....the way he is?

[starface]

Again, youve seen the msm coverage of Trump since day 1. This isnt about how a question is phrased in a press conference. It’s about how headlines and entire articles have been written with hateful, caustic, incendiary, demeaning rhetoric NO MATTER WHAT Trump does or says or what the issue is.

So no, I dont think he owes those people anything, including a candid self evaluation. They will not use it constructively, they will use it ruthlessly and abusively. I dont see Trumps refusal to indulge them as anything but reasonable.

I guess we can agree to disagree on the matter.

[Cleverness]

While I actually think this advice by the Democrats is good, here they are "downplaying" the virus (aka being REAL about the virus before they followed quack political science):

https://www.air.tv/watch?v=a22OOZ6vRTmZdM-UH_1Kbg

https://news.grabien.com/story-how-nycs-trump-opposition-led-city-becoming-americas-coronav

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump's base is stupid.

[starface]

If anything Trump was RIGHT about corona....

it was totally blown out of proportion and used as a political power grab by big democrat states... who then shamed some red states to follow along by blowing up their numbers artificially and airing non stop media coverage of it.

He's basically been beaten into submission over the issue, and the masses are so stupid he realizes he has to act like he takes it more serious to not offend them and lose votes.

Even kblaze used to argue it was nonsense how overhyped it was at the beginning. Because it was.

Trump was right.

He has a habit of "telling it like it is" and being totally right. Might just say it a crude way. But thats better than a pretty lie.


Exactly.

Kblaze to my knowledge wasnt even a covid shrieking buffoon, so I fail to see how/why he still managed to find an excuse to OMB here.

[Kblaze8855]

Again, youve seen the msm coverage of Trump since day 1. This isnt about how a question is phrased in a press conference. It’s about how headlines and entire articles have been written with hateful, caustic, incendiary, demeaning rhetoric NO MATTER WHAT Trump does or says or what the issue is.

So no, I dont think he owes those people anything, including a candid self evaluation. They will not use it constructively, they will use it ruthlessly and abusively. I dont see Trumps refusal to indulge them as anything but reasonable.

I guess we can agree to disagree on the matter.

Of course I’ve seen the coverage since day one. And since day one and for 30 years before that he’s been weird and covered in scandal. I have to ask again....how do you cover someone with the issues I raised in such a way that they won’t consider it hostile?


How do you ask about whore payments the presidents lawyer confirmed?

How do you do that and not look like you’re on the attack?

Would you just refuse to ask and make someone else bite the bullet?

Do you not mention the presidents friends being locked up one by one?

You can’t do your job and cover Trump like he’s some normal politician.

In actually asking....you cover the White House and write about him.

How do you ask some of these question and not be branded an enemy of the people?

[Kblaze8855]

Exactly.

Kblaze to my knowledge wasnt even a covid shrieking buffoon, so I fail to see how/why he still managed to find an excuse to OMB here.

I don’t care that much about covid. It is funny watching people always calling his accusations lies react to the things on tape though. If you don’t care he’s ok with lying for political reasons I just feel you should take less offense next time someone tells you he’s lying. He’s got no leg to stand on.

But you just know next scandal he will be calling everyone else a liar and his followers will eat it up despite knowing for a fact he’s down to lie to them.

Its all funny to me.

[starface]

Of course I’ve seen the coverage since day one. And since day one and for 30 years before that he’s been weird and covered in scandal. I have to ask again....how do you cover someone with the issues I raised in such a way that they won’t consider it hostile?


How do you ask about whore payments the presidents lawyer confirmed?

How do you do that and not look like you’re on the attack?

Would you just refuse to ask and make someone else bite the bullet?

Do you not mention the presidents friends being locked up one by one?

You can’t do your job and cover Trump like he’s some normal politician.

In actually asking....you cover the White House and write about him.

How do you ask some of these question and not be branded an enemy of the people?


Heres an idea: Dont ask him about his personal life, it’s irrelevant.

When Trump was a civilian and banging on the Obama birther drum with like a year left on Obamas term I considered it frivolous and unproductive.

That it what the media has done for Trumps whole term. The media IS Donald Trump, except with far more collective money and manpower, and no term limit. Thats what should be more concerning to you than whom Don Trump slept with.

I dont care about Jon Stewarts personal life and I dont care about Trump’s. It is irrelevant and the media covers it to be willfully inflammatory and antagonistic.

[tpols]

Seriously... bill clinton had his 22 year old intern... when he was an old ass man... suck his dick IN the white house.

*Imagine* if trump got caught doing that on the clock as president.

:roll:

So he banged some 30 something year old stripper like 15 years ago. So the **** what? All these rich guys do shit like that. Robert Kraft got caught with that last year.

[starface]

I don’t care that much about covid. It is funny watching people always calling his accusations lies react to the things on tape though. If you don’t care he’s ok with lying for political reasons I just feel you should take less offense next time someone tells you he’s lying. He’s got no leg to stand on.

But you just know next scandal he will be calling everyone else a liar and his followers will eat it up despite knowing for a fact he’s down to lie to them.

Its all funny to me.


Where do you see someone taking offense to someone else saying hes lying?

I dont see it in this thread. We need a specific quote so we can survey the context.

Who is offended that you think Trump is a liar...? If you accuse him of a specific lie without evidence, sure you might get some debate. But again it all comes down to context.

Youre broadly imagining Trump voters having a caricature position, and perhaps in some weird corners of social media or whatever that may be happening. But I dont see it here.

[Kblaze8855]

Heres an idea: Dont ask him about his personal life, it’s irrelevant.

When Trump was a civilian and banging on the Obama birther drum with like a year left on Obamas term I considered it frivolous and unproductive.

That it what the media has done for Trumps whole term. The media IS Donald Trump, except with far more collective money and manpower, and no term limit. Thats what should be more concerning to you than whom Don Trump slept with.

I dont care about Jon Stewarts personal life and I dont care about Trump’s. It is irrelevant and the media covers it to be willfully inflammatory and antagonistic.

The president potentially using campaign funds as hooker hush money shouldn’t be covered by a media that followed Mark Sanfords paper trail to find his mistress in Argentina and ended John Edwards career in politics over using campaign finances to cover up his affair?

That is a story no matter who you are. When you’re the gotdamn president “Don’t cover it” isn’t an option and you know it. The shit Trump is involved , says, and is connected to by various literal felons he had working for him will always in the real world be covered by a media who simply cannot ask him about it without him taking offense and going off.

Donald Trump cannot be covered by anything but a sycophant and like his coverage. Even if you felt he were always innocent talking about it is your job. I don’t know how you do it and stay on his good side.

[starface]

The president potentially using campaign funds as hooker hush money shouldn’t be covered by a media that followed Mark Sanfords paper trail to find his mistress in Argentina and ended John Edwards career in politics over using campaign finances to cover up his affair?


If they suspect he broke the law they can amass evidence and take it to a judge and seek a criminal complaint through the penal system. Just like with his taxes. Then print a whole big story once hes busted, instead of constantly flaming provocative half truths full of sensationalism and insinuation.

You know full well they dont care about justice, they care about a sleezy story they can print to make left wing America think the billion dollar corporate media is on their side, by pretending to have the same enemy.

The media could find things 1000x more important to the lives of Americans than Trumps sex life and taxes. They dont cover anything that will actually lead to meaningfully informing citizens in a way that will make them more discerning and autonomous. They feed America unhealthy dog shit and get rich from it.

If you wanna make excuses for it, be my guest. But Im not interested in the dog and pony show.

[Kblaze8855]

Are you telling me the press should have taken the information they had on Stormy and the payoff to the cops? And that that doesn’t result in a massive story of exactly the kind you are against? What does that look like to you? When the news sends someone to a judge to attempt to get the president...what...arrested? That’s not gonna be a sensation?

That isn’t a serious response. That’s you building a dream world with no connection to reality.

You don’t have an answer on how to cover all these scandals without him hating you because it can’t be done and in the real world they are ALL stories the media covers.

The news is damn near created by the people these days. If Trump said that “I like guys who weren’t captured” shit with zero media response the first person to record it and put it on Twitter gets 22 million views and the online reaction alone makes it a story. This isn’t 100 years ago where a local papers editor can hush a story. He’s talking to 40 million people at a time through Twitter alone.

He personally generates news.

Not covering his shit is not a real option in the digital age. He’d respond to the million asking questions online about anything your network chose to ignore and you’re off to the races.

The first clerk in an office that gets wind of CBS working with a DA to get the president indicted...what’s he gonna do? Be quiet about it?

The age of a quiet investigation into figures on this level are long over.

Everything he does that brings questions from even 1% of people who hear about it would blow up online.

Giving the president a pass on his whores and lawyers public betrayals is nice in a fantasy world. It’s laughable in this one.

[starface]

If those are the things that interest you, fine. The media is doing their job, and Trump is responding like we’d expect someone campaigning for office to do.

So... okay then.

Guess we got that cleared up.

[DoctorP]

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Bye, Donny. It was fun while it lasted, no?

[warriorfan]

I can't imagine being obsessed with another country's leadership... lol, like what?

He’s extremely disturbed.

[TheMan]

He’s extremely disturbed.
Another low IQer :lol

[tpols]

Listen hombre, we've had just about enough of your whiny bullshit, comprende? You need to siéntate, shut the **** up, and kiss the Don's ring.

:cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

Listen hombre, we've had just about enough of your whiny bullshit, comprende? You need to siéntate, shut the **** up, and kiss the Don's ring.

:cheers:

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[Hittin_Shots]

Why is he automatically not lying when he's caught saying something you agree with OP?

[AlternativeAcc.]

OP is a flaming fakkit. Thats all I have to offer.

Kill yourself mang

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump said he did not want to tell the truth because he did not want to create a panic (for Wall Street and his re-election chances).
So he did nothing and created a disaster.

[Manny98]

OP suffers from a extreme case of TDS

[TheMan]

OP suffers from a extreme case of TDS

Orange Man Bad!

This is a political sub forum you Neanderthal, this topic is pretty relevant rn, if this topic hurts your little feewings like it apparently did with Shogun and the rest of the Trump Crew, then just ignore it and pretend he isn't on tape telling Woodward that the virus is "deadly stuff" (his words) and then flat out lied to the American people :confusedshrug:

[Shogon]

You guys really should just shut the **** up about Donald Trump.

He hasn't taken us into a new hot war with a new country. He isn't bought and paid for, even if he is a self serving egomaniac.

How much do you want to bet if Biden gets elected we get another hot war?

You guys act like they're not all egomaniacs in Washington. Haha, right. Trump is just more in your face about it, and people can't deal... because they're stupid.

Everyone is retarded.

You're ALL retarded.


Other than war, the president is mostly just a bullshit position. Yeah, yeah, they have further reach than that, but when you get down to brass tacks, that's it. And they're not even supposed to do that, because it's supposed to be a congressional thing which is seldom the case.

For years we heard about how Donald Trump is destroying the country and blah blah blah. How has your life changed in the past 4 years? Other than reading the hysteria coming out of you low IQs and the media constantly fanning flames, my life hasn't changed one bit. So if I unplug from that, my objective reality is the same.

You're a bunch of clowns.

[warriorfan]

You guys really should just shut the **** up about Donald Trump.

He hasn't taken us into a new hot war with a new country. He isn't bought and paid for, even if he is a self serving egomaniac.

How much do you want to bet if Biden gets elected we get another hot war?

You guys act like they're not all egomaniacs in Washington. Haha, right. Trump is just more in your face about it, and people can't deal... because they're stupid.

Everyone is retarded.

You're ALL retarded.


Other than war, the president is mostly just a bullshit position. Yeah, yeah, they have further reach than that, but when you get down to brass tacks, that's it. And they're not even supposed to do that, because it's supposed to be a congressional thing which is seldom the case.

For years we heard about how Donald Trump is destroying the country and blah blah blah. How has your life changed in the past 4 years? Other than reading the hysteria coming out of you low IQs and the media constantly fanning flames, my life hasn't changed one bit. So if I unplug from that, my objective reality is the same.

You're a bunch of clowns.

This. If you sit back and look at it objectively...there’s not really much to complain about at all. Some people are just addicted to feeling miserable and being outraged. It’s sad.

[TheMan]

The families of 190K dead and counting would beg to differ but to be fair, like that other retard here keeps saying, they all had one foot in the grave anyways :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

The families of 190K dead and counting would beg to differ but to be fair, like that other retard here keeps saying, they all had one foot in the grave anyways :confusedshrug:

OMB!

[TheMan]

OMB!

Please don't talk bad about my Dear Leader :cry:

[Shogon]

The families of 190K dead and counting would beg to differ but to be fair, like that other retard here keeps saying, they all had one foot in the grave anyways :confusedshrug:

Donald Trump: I'm shutting down travel to China because of COVID.
Media, democrats, people on this board: That's atrocious! You're a ****ing racist!

Fast forward 60 days...

Media, democrats, people on this board: Why didn't Trump do more! He's incompetent! COVID is his fault!

You literally can't make this shit up. Even if you wanted to make a fictional story, you couldn't come up with this. lol.

Also, unreleated, this isn't your country TheMan, so shut the **** up. You don't live here. Why don't you worry about your shithole country and worry about helping to get it fixed.

[TheMan]

Donald Trump: I'm shutting down travel to China because of COVID.
Media, democrats, people on this board: That's atrocious! You're a ****ing racist!

Fast forward 60 days...

Media, democrats, people on this board: Why didn't Trump do more! He's incompetent! COVID is his fault!

You literally can't make this shit up. Even if you wanted to make a fictional story, you couldn't come up with this. lol.

Also, unreleated, this isn't your country TheMan, so shut the **** up. You don't live here. Why don't you worry about your shithole country and worry about helping to get it fixed.
LMAO meltdown :roll:

[Axe]

Donald Trump: I'm shutting down travel to China because of COVID.
Media, democrats, people on this board: That's atrocious! You're a ****ing racist!

Fast forward 60 days...

Media, democrats, people on this board: Why didn't Trump do more! He's incompetent! COVID is his fault!

You literally can't make this shit up. Even if you wanted to make a fictional story, you couldn't come up with this. lol.

Also, unreleated, this isn't your country TheMan, so shut the **** up. You don't live here. Why don't you worry about your shithole country and worry about helping to get it fixed.
Meh go fukk yourself or go to hell instead. ./.

[DoctorP]

You guys really should just shut the **** up about Donald Trump.

He hasn't taken us into a new hot war with a new country. He isn't bought and paid for, even if he is a self serving egomaniac.

How much do you want to bet if Biden gets elected we get another hot war?

You guys act like they're not all egomaniacs in Washington. Haha, right. Trump is just more in your face about it, and people can't deal... because they're stupid.

Everyone is retarded.

You're ALL retarded.


Other than war, the president is mostly just a bullshit position. Yeah, yeah, they have further reach than that, but when you get down to brass tacks, that's it. And they're not even supposed to do that, because it's supposed to be a congressional thing which is seldom the case.

For years we heard about how Donald Trump is destroying the country and blah blah blah. How has your life changed in the past 4 years? Other than reading the hysteria coming out of you low IQs and the media constantly fanning flames, my life hasn't changed one bit. So if I unplug from that, my objective reality is the same.

You're a bunch of clowns.

You're right but if Trump would have cut the retweets and just stfu he would be THRIVING. Its like that interview with Woodward... Why does he shoot himself so much?