PDA

View Full Version : Was Siakam the worst 2nd option scorer ever for a title team?



HBK_Kliq_2
09-12-2020, 02:45 AM
Trashcal Siakam is like G league level. He put up 17PPG on 46% TS even though he had 4 games vs nets. Negative offensive win shares this year.

Besides Kawhi, I can't think of 1 superstar who can win a championship with Siakam as their 2nd option scorer.

AussieSteve
09-12-2020, 03:01 AM
How did he play in last year's finals?

How about Lowry and VanVleet? Are they any good?

Were there any other circumstances to consider in last year finals run? Maybe some key injuries to opposing team's?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-12-2020, 03:01 AM
Lowry and Siakam alternated

Lowry was the 2nd best scorer VS Milwaukee

Raptors mainly won the title due to having the most stacked defense since the 04 Pistons or one of the Spurs teams

Raptors were the best defense this season after LOSING Kawhi and Green

FVV/Davis
Lowry/Norm
OG
Siakam/Boucher
Marc/Ibaka

Best defensive coach in the league

Lebron23
09-12-2020, 03:03 AM
Trashcal Siakam is like G league level. He put up 17PPG on 46% TS even though he had 4 games vs nets. Negative offensive win shares this year.

Besides Kawhi, I can't think of 1 superstar who can win a championship with Siakam as their 2nd option scorer.

They had 4 players who averaged in double figures in the nba finals last year. Marc Gasol is older than dirt.

SouBeachTalents
09-12-2020, 03:03 AM
Literally another 3ball poster, this place is fcking psychotic :oldlol:

Micku
09-12-2020, 03:07 AM
In their title run, Siakham put up better stats.

And nope, he isn't the worst.

He was better than anybody on the Spurs in 03 not named Duncan. Parker had 14.7 ppg on 46% TS. You should check out the 94 Rockets. Vernon Maxwell had like 13.8 ppg on 37% shooting. And 47%TS. The Lakers in the 90s were also pretty bad when it came to the playoffs. They underperform.

I would say the Mav 11 too. Anyone besides Dirk.

HBK_Kliq_2
09-12-2020, 03:27 AM
How did he play in last year's finals?

How about Lowry and VanVleet? Are they any good?

Were there any other circumstances to consider in last year finals run? Maybe some key injuries to opposing team's?

They all benefited from papa kawhi. Without Kawhi, they are chokers. Siakam's efficiency is awful without Kawhi.

Curry/dray/klay were still in there for majority of series. Klay missed a game and a quarter, that's not anymore significant then Draymond's 2016 suspension.

HBK_Kliq_2
09-12-2020, 03:31 AM
Lowry and Siakam alternated

Lowry was the 2nd best scorer VS Milwaukee

Raptors mainly won the title due to having the most stacked defense since the 04 Pistons or one of the Spurs teams

Raptors were the best defense this season after LOSING Kawhi and Green

FVV/Davis
Lowry/Norm
OG
Siakam/Boucher
Marc/Ibaka

Best defensive coach in the league

Kawhi led a 114 offensive rating in the 2019 playoffs. These raptors shitheads couldn't even hit a 100 offensive rating going into game 7. Siakam still totaled for the 2nd amount of PPG, no team will ever win with him as 2nd option again.

HBK_Kliq_2
09-12-2020, 03:34 AM
They had 4 players who averaged in double figures in the nba finals last year. Marc Gasol is older than dirt.

They all were good because they were playing with Kawhi, that's my point. Players just gain confidence when they are playing with Kawhi. Trashcal has no idea WTF he's doing but he was next to Kawhi, so it was ok for the time being.

AussieSteve
09-12-2020, 04:42 AM
They all benefited from papa kawhi. Without Kawhi, they are chokers. Siakam's efficiency is awful without Kawhi.

Curry/dray/klay were still in there for majority of series. Klay missed a game and a quarter, that's not anymore significant then Draymond's 2016 suspension.

Kawhi was the 3rd best Raptor in the game 1 win. Siakam and Gasol balled out. Kawhi made just the 1 FG in the 4th of a close game.

In the game 3 win, his stats look nice, but he front ran 21 of his 30 points in the 2nd half after the rest of his team had helped set up the win. Lowry, Siakam and Gasol had combined for 39 and the lead was in double digits before Kawhi scored his 10th point.

Kawhi was the 4th best Raptor in the game 6 win. And with Toronto down by 2 points after 3 quarters, he made 0 FGs and 0 assists in the 4th. Lowry, VanVleet and Siakam were all awesome.

The only win in which Kawhi was clearly their best player was game 4, in which he was dominant.

Not to mention that one of their wins, Klay didn't play. Another of their wins they were losing until Klay left hurt.

Also not to mention that over their 4 wins they were better with Kawhi on the bench (+.42 points per min) than on the court (+.17 points per min)

Easiest ring ever for a superstar.

TheGoatest
09-12-2020, 04:45 AM
Siakam averaged 19.8 ppg on .505 shooting (compared to Kawhi's .434) in last year's finals and he averaged 23 ppg this year.

Also Kyle Lowry, Fred VanVleet and Serge Ibaka are the best 3rd, 4th and 5th scoring options for a title team in history. By far.

Gray GOAT
09-12-2020, 05:09 AM
They all were good because they were playing with Kawhi, that's my point. Players just gain confidence when they are playing with Kawhi. Trashcal has no idea WTF he's doing but he was next to Kawhi, so it was ok for the time being.

When will Kawhi find a vaccine for the corona virus?

Phoenix
09-12-2020, 05:22 AM
Literally another 3ball poster, this place is fcking psychotic :oldlol:

Hit the ground running too. 20 posts a day, and it's a fair bet just about every single one of them is about Kawhi.

red1
09-12-2020, 08:42 AM
siakam wasnt the second best player


and siakam is a nightmare when he isnt the focus of the defense




kawhi had a 50+ win team last year when he didnt play a single game

red1
09-12-2020, 08:43 AM
Literally another 3ball poster, this place is fcking psychotic :oldlol:

:roll:

Roundball_Rock
09-12-2020, 11:16 AM
Literally another 3ball poster, this place is fcking psychotic :oldlol:

In before 1-9ball responds and 1-9ball and HBK go into a debate over whether Siakam or Pippen were the WOAT.

And1AllDay
09-12-2020, 11:18 AM
Well lets look into op there has to be a non biased answer

Wade averaged uh what, 13.8 ppg for a whole full plauoffs in 2013

What was Siakam avg in 2019 'll search it and compare bruh

Editz

Um. Siakam avg 19 ppg in 2019 so he was much better thrn other #2 options. Goodbye now

Gohan
09-12-2020, 09:25 PM
Literally another 3ball poster, this place is fcking psychotic :oldlol:

It’s all good when lebron getting all the praise huh? You say nothing then