Only took LeBron two years to top the west

[GrayGoat]

LeWildwildwest

[WhiteKyrie]

Anthony Davis did wonders, for sure

[Vino24]

Anthony Davis did wonders, for sure

13pts Anthony Davis? No problem Bron Bron will carry ya

[Roundball_Rock]

Anthony Davis did wonders, for sure

MJ stans shook. :lol

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Well he still has one more series to go, but it is pretty funny that so many people predicted Portland and Houston to win, especially after each took game 1 only to have the Lakers dominate them over the next 4.

[WhiteKyrie]

I’m giving appropriate credit, where it’s due, that’s all. OP isn’t being genuine.


13pts Anthony Davis? No problem Bron Bron will carry ya
No I’m talking about 29.2 ppg, 10.9 rpg playoff bubble Anthony Davis.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

I’m giving appropriate credit, where it’s due, that’s all. OP isn’t being genuine.


No I’m talking about 29.2 ppg, 10.9 rpg playoff bubble Anthony Davis.
He is definitely a star too.

[WhiteKyrie]

He is definitely a star too.

Not just a star. He’s arguably their best player. Right now he’s got the second best career playoff PPG of all-time.

[Vino24]

Not just a star. He’s arguably their best player. Right now he’s got the second best career playoff PPG of all-time.

Thanks to Lebron. LeBron on/off Is better than Davis

[insidious301]

I’m giving appropriate credit, where it’s due, that’s all. OP isn’t being genuine.


No I’m talking about 29.2 ppg, 10.9 rpg playoff bubble Anthony Davis.

For years the talking point was LeBron succuming to the West. Meaning the East was weak. Having AD is obviously a big reason why the Lakers are successful, but what exactly has AD been without LeBron, an actual champion and winner? It goes both ways. Likewise, one could make the argument LeBron is still the best player in the game.

[WhiteKyrie]

For years the talking point was LeBron succuming to the West. Meaning the East was weak. Having AD is obviously a big reason why the Lakers are great, but what exactly has AD been without LeBron, an actual champion and winner? It goes both ways. Plus, one could make the argument LeBron is still the best player in the game.
AD didn’t exactly play on amazing teams, with easy paths to the Finals via the Leastern Conference. He played for a crap franchise.

And AD actually pulled a game vs the 2018 Warriors in the second round, which James wasn’t able to do.

LeBron being considered a winner is highly questionable. Near fluky circumstances really helped assist that perception, along with stacked rosters in a pathetic conference, if it’s a perception you maintain of him as a player being a “winner” when his record is 3 for 9 on the big stage.

Do you consider Wilt Chamberlain a winner too?

I mean last year LeBron led the Lakers to the lottery. They were terrible. Defensively absolutely woeful. Anthony Davis was the one that changed all of that.

[Roundball_Rock]

For years the talking point was LeBron succuming to the West. Meaning the East was weak. Having AD is obviously a big reason why the Lakers are successful, but what exactly has AD been without LeBron, an actual champion and winner? It goes both ways. Likewise, one could make the argument LeBron is still the best player in the game.

Good points.

I personally think Davis may be their best player, although LeBron clearly is the most valuable (they rely on his skill set a lot more than Davis') but it is obvious what is going on here. All these MJ/Kobe stans who didn't say a word about Davis for 7 years suddenly are hyping him in his 8th year as a hedge to soften the blow if LeBron wins a 4th ring (spoiler alert: LeBron will get all the credit anyway--that is how this works--as these stans should full well know...). The agenda is crystal clear, especially guys like Samurai Swish who have dedicated much of their presence on ISH to discrediting the value of "sidekicks."

Anyone who thinks the headline if the Lakers win will be "Lakers Win, Dynamic Duo of Anthony 'Kareem' Davis & LeBron Lead LA Back to Glory" is naive. It will be "Lakers win, James wins 4th title."

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Not just a star. He’s arguably their best player. Right now he’s got the second best career playoff PPG of all-time.

Maybe. Lebron is in his 17th year. For the future of the Lakers they better hope The Brow at age 27 is their best player. What Lebron is doing in his 17th year is still very impressive.

[bison]

Oh look another alt to add to the ignore list.

[Marchesk]

Maybe somebody can correct me, but don't the Lakers have to win the WCF first to "top the West"? And isn't the team they have to beat generally considered the favorite? The one with last year's FMVP.

[TheCorporation]

Maybe somebody can correct me, but don't the Lakers have to win the WCF first to "top the West"? And isn't the team they have to beat generally considered the favorite? The one with last year's FMVP.

Bron turned a 2019 WCF Blazers into a near sweep 1st rounder :lol

[Spurs m8]

MJ stans shook. :lol

No MJ stan is worried about LeCollude hahahah

[Bronbron23]

LeWildwildwest

Well he didn't win a chip until 2012 so it took him more like 8 years

[WhiteKyrie]

No MJ stan is worried about LeCollude hahahah

No shit. He’s an MVP away. A DPOY away. And 3 rings and Finals MVPs away just from tying Michael.

No one is shook. I was responding to the pathetic narrative pushing by OP, which this character you’re replying to wasn’t bothered by.

Especially odd for someone who white knights and takes up for a much inferior player and sidekick in Scottie Pippen :facepalm probably an alt or a closet LeStain fan himself.

[Vino24]

No shit. He’s an MVP away. A DPOY away. And 3 rings and Finals MVPs away just from tying Michael.

No one is shook. I was responding to the pathetic narrative pushing by OP, which this character you’re replying to wasn’t bothered by.

Especially odd for someone who white knights and takes up for a much inferior player and sidekick in Scottie Pippen :facepalm probably an alt or a closet LeStain fan himself.

No Kyrie no problem. Teams feast when Kyrie doesn’t play

[insidious301]

AD didn’t exactly play on amazing teams, with easy paths to the Finals via the Leastern Conference. He played for a crap franchise.

And AD actually pulled a game vs the 2018 Warriors in the second round, which James wasn’t able to do.

LeBron being considered a winner is highly questionable. Near fluky circumstances really helped assist that perception, along with stacked rosters in a pathetic conference, if it’s a perception you maintain of him as a player being a “winner” when his record is 3 for 9 on the big stage.

Do you consider Wilt Chamberlain a winner too?

I mean last year LeBron led the Lakers to the lottery. They were terrible. Defensively absolutely woeful. Anthony Davis was the one that changed all of that.

That 2018 team you referenced had 5 other players besides AD score double-digits. Per game. Including Jrue Holiday who averaged 24 a night. And of course Rondo who averaged a double-double with 12 assists. Davis' team "pulled a game" because they were better than the Cavs top to bottom. LeBron's made 9 Finals and has the second most FMVP's of all time, so obviously he is a winner. That is the definition of excellence and individual worth. A year ago the Lakers were hamstrung by injuries and were no longer an 8th seed once LeBron returned. The fact is AD has never made a WCF let alone won championships like LeBron has. So if AD changed all of this for LeBron, why aren't you talking about the benefit LeBron's had on him?


Good points.

I personally think Davis may be their best player, although LeBron clearly is the most valuable (they rely on his skill set a lot more than Davis') but it is obvious what is going on here. All these MJ/Kobe stans who didn't say a word about Davis for 7 years suddenly are hyping him in his 8th year as a hedge to soften the blow if LeBron wins a 4th ring (spoiler alert: LeBron will get all the credit anyway--that is how this works--as these stans should full well know...). The agenda is crystal clear, especially guys like Samurai Swish who have dedicated much of their presence on ISH to discrediting the value of "sidekicks."

Anyone who thinks the headline if the Lakers win will be "Lakers Win, Dynamic Duo of Anthony 'Kareem' Davis & LeBron Lead LA Back to Glory" is naive. It will be "Lakers win, James wins 4th title."

Yeah it is close although people sleep on LeBron because of his age. Right now he leads LA in Playoff BPM & VORP. So LeBron might not have the raw stats in his favor, but the advanced data speaks to his impact overall. Funny thing about AD is those same people act like he is a lone culture changer. They want to harp on the "success" he brought LeBron however completely ignore that it is reciprocal. Of course LeBron benefits playing with a younger superstar. Just like AD benefits playing beside a guy with the second most FMVPs ever. The way it'll be said is more in line with how you painted it although all of that really depends on how they perform. If LeBron is still LeBron, the haters are going to have serious issues coping.

[Roundball_Rock]

Good points, Insidious--but these guys are hypocrites. Look at his (alt of Samurai Swish/Coach/PoutinPippen/and many others) last post taking a shot at Pippen. The only "sidekicks" per the shook MJ crowd (melting down all over the internet :oldlol: ) who actually help teams are Davis, Wade, and Irving. What is the common theme?