View Full Version : Lonzo signs with Rich Paul.
Kblaze8855
09-14-2020, 10:46 AM
THREE YEARS INTO his NBA career, New Orleans Pelicans (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-pelicans) guard Lonzo Ball (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066421/lonzo-ball) views this as a pivotal offseason, which began with an important business decision: Ball has signed with agent Rich Paul of Klutch Sports, the 22-year-old told ESPN.
"I wanted to lead my career," Ball told ESPN. "Picking my own representation -- just solely as my decision -- was step one in that process. For me, it was an easy call, and it was the right time to make that call."
Ball joins Klutch Sports after brief stints with Creative Arts Agency and Roc Nation.
Weeks removed from a disappointing team showing in the NBA seeding games in Orlando, Florida, Ball said he was beginning his offseason training regimen Monday, which includes two-a-day sessions on the basketball court and workouts in the weight room.
Ball said his goal for next season is to make the playoffs and put himself in contention to follow in teammate Brandon Ingram (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3913176/brandon-ingram)'s footsteps.
"Once we get in the playoffs, we take it one game at a time," Ball said. "For myself, I think Most Improved Player is definitely something I can get next year."
Shogon
09-14-2020, 10:52 AM
He can still become a solid NBA player if not a star. It will depend on how much work he puts in. The talent is 100% there, even with that weird af looking jumper.
To all the clowns that said he was smart to start BBB at the beginning of his career and pass up all that guaranteed Nike money... I... told... you... so. The idea (BBB) was right, but the timing was indescribably bad. Secure the bag... then venture off. Not the other way around, unless you've got a bulletproof idea.
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Kblaze8855
09-14-2020, 11:18 AM
The deal ESPN reported they turned down from Nike was 5 years 10 million. He makes 11 million from the nba alone next year. That’s not worth giving up a shot at ownership when you expect to be a superstar. If we are talking 100 million....Yea. 10 million? Eh.
If he were Ja Morant good I suspect he could build enough of a base to have been major on the Lakers. Hard to do as a role player.
Shogon
09-14-2020, 11:20 AM
The deal ESPN reported they turned down from Nike was 5 years 10 million. He makes 11 million from the nba alone next year. That’s not worth giving up a shot at ownership when you expect to be a superstar. If we are talking 100 million....Yea. 10 million? Eh.
If he were Ja Morant good I suspect he could build enough of a base to have been major on the Lakers. Hard to do as a role player.
Dude, again, that's $10 million. That's not insignificant. He does his 5 years, becomes a star in the mean time, THEN he launches his own brand. He did it backwards. His idea wasn't bulletproof. It cost him money, heartache and drama. He would have minimal involvement and a guaranteed 10 million with no liability or responsibility. Period.
I fully support him venturing off on his own. **** making money for other people. I agree with that. However, his timing was dog shit. I was proven right. Period.
Now imagine a world in which he has a career ending injury in his rookie season. He's lost the nike money and BBB is bust before it begins. That's $10 million he gave up for no reason. Correct thinking, incorrect timing. Timing matters.
Kblaze8855
09-14-2020, 11:41 AM
You don’t prove owning a business wrong by it not working out. That’s the mentality that leads to a lifetime as a subordinate. Athletes with guaranteed millions either way are exactly the ones who should be willing to go out on their own. He was at no real risk. He’s rich no matter what. He isn’t some guy putting his all into some long shot he had to make work or go sleep on his moms couch.
He was a certain millionaire from a family that was already rich investing in himself and not being as good as he hoped. If he’s so much as a regular nba starter he’s gonna make another 100 million dollars. The average salary is like 9 million now.
**** Nike’s 10. The people with the means to bring you under their umbrella didn’t get there by being afraid to go it alone. And few if any of them had the fallback plan Lonzo did off his nba contract. The goal when you’re already sure to be rich is to own not to make someone else the money. If you have 100 million earning potential with tens of millions already guaranteed? Do your own thing. Obviously he still had Nike as a fallback anyway since he ended up there anyway.
So what exactly did he lose trying it himself first? The difference between his original Nike offer and whatever he signed for later?
Give me a 10% chance at my own company over selling out from the jump especially when I can go back and sign later.
Shogon
09-14-2020, 11:47 AM
He could have lost it all(brand money of any sort) because he could have gotten injured or he could have been a complete bust and having zero playing time right now and then he would neither have the Nike money nor BBB money. He also cost himself millions plus had a headache in the mean time.
I already said it like 10x... timing matters. If you don't understand or don't agree, I'm sorry.
You act like I was suggesting he play for 15 years and then venture out... uh, no. It's called establishing yourself first, securing the bag, THEN venturing out. It's a simple matter of risk vs reward. If he was becoming a star, he could have done BBB either way. If he didn't become a star, he lost the Nike money. How much more plainly do I have to put it? It's a simple risk vs reward calculation... and he made the wrong calculation.
CelticBaller
09-14-2020, 11:47 AM
BBB would've succeeded if Lonzo was any good
Imagine if Zion was Lavar's son instead lmao
Real Men Wear Green
09-14-2020, 01:14 PM
BBB failed because the whole business was a con by a friend of Lavar Ball's to embezzle money from Lonzo. And the ridiculously expensive shoes didn't help. If I'm going to spend 500 dollars on a pair of sneakers..well I'm not doing that regardless but that's what the Jordan 11s cost. Why am I spending that kind of money on a pair of shoes I can't even try on in a store? Insane business model that shouldn't be held against the idea of entrepreneurship. If they had an honest partner and priced the shoes within the market it could have worked.
Smoke117
09-14-2020, 01:19 PM
BBB failed because the whole business was a con by a friend of Lavar Ball's to embezzle money from Lonzo. And the ridiculously expensive shoes didn't help. If I'm going to spend 500 dollars on a pair of sneakers..well I'm not doing that regardless but that's what the Jordan 11s cost. Why am I spending that kind of money on a pair of shoes I can't even try on in a store? Insane business model that shouldn't be held against the idea of entrepreneurship. If they had an honest partner and priced the shoes within the market it could have worked.
:facepalm
Horatio33
09-14-2020, 01:44 PM
He can change his reps all he wants. With that crooked J he will never be a star.
Real Men Wear Green
09-14-2020, 01:51 PM
He can change his reps all he wants. With that crooked J he will never be a star.
Valid point but a powerful agent can get an average player a better contract and/or situation by leaving on teams that want to sign that agent's star clients. If you want to be a laker he's the best agent to have.
AlternativeAcc.
09-14-2020, 02:23 PM
BBB would've succeeded if Lonzo was any good
Imagine if Zion was Lavar's son instead lmao
Bingo
The business was predicated on Lonzo actually being good...
Lavar did his job as a marketing genius. Lonzo dropped the ball and failed his father.
Real Men Wear Green
09-14-2020, 02:40 PM
Bingo
The business was predicated on Lonzo actually being good...
Lavar did his job as a marketing genius. Lonzo dropped the ball and failed his father.No, there really was embezzlement:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2829258-lonzo-ball-sues-alan-foster-over-alleged-embezzlement-from-bbb#:~:text=Lonzo%20Ball%20Sues%20Alan%20Foster%20 over%20Alleged%20Embezzlement%20from%20BBB,-Rob%20Goldberg%20Invalid&text=Lonzo%20Ball%20has%20filed%20a,million%2C%20a ccording%20to%20TMZ%20Sports.
Lavar Ball did very well by his sons, helping two of them reach the NBA and the third can probably make a living off of celebrity and being associated with the other two. So, good on that part and most things that are his duty as a father. BBB on the other hand is a scam failure and his NBA sons are completely justified in finding legit companies to make deals with.
Ghost1
09-14-2020, 03:16 PM
bran, dray, wall, simmons, bledsoe, lonzo, dejounte murray, harrell, tristan thompson
they could build a wall on the mexican border
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