Kawhi legacy ruined

[Jay-B]

If you think about it what has he really done? He wasn’t the main man on the loaded spurs championship and the Golden state warriors would of smoked them last year if they were healthy

[SouBeachTalents]

Ruined? No, but this was a horrendous loss, and he was absolute trash in Game 7

[Shogon]

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[BigtimeNBAFan]

It isn't ruined, but it certainly takes a major hit. We have been told he is better than Lebron and that is just nonsense. The league still belongs to the King.

[Shooter]

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"cut from the same cloth as MJ"


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[plowking]

This forum is still filled with dumb-asses with stupid thoughts.

Sure. One season ruins a legacy for a two times FMVP.

[Gohan]

If you think about it what has he really done? He wasn’t the main man on the loaded spurs championship and the Golden state warriors would of smoked them last year if they were healthy

That Toronto team was good without him

[MaxPlayer]

Well tonight sure didn't help

[BANE?]

Not even Durant was this bad in game 7 in 2016 against GSW, just saying

[Kblaze8855]

He’s gonna contend for like the next 6 rings.....


I swear ISH thinks every bad loss destroys every stars career....every single year.


Some of these guys get their legacies ruined forever 3-4 years in a row according to you dudes.

[FireDavidKahn]

16 point lead up 3-1? not enough.
19 point lead up 3-2? not enough.
14 point lead tied 3-3? not enough.

kawhi > lebron, though... i'd like to hear the reasoning.

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[LAmbruh]

outplayed by Gary Harris


worse blown 3-1 since 2016 Curry - 2006 Kobe

[Shogon]

He’s gonna contend for like the next 6 rings.....


I swear ISH thinks every bad loss destroys every stars career....every single year.


Some of these guys get their legacies ruined forever 3-4 years in a row according to you dudes.

He won't. Because he's not healthy dude. He doesn't sit out a quarter of the season because he wants to save himself for the playoffs. He has a degenerative quad condition. That's why he sits. He's got a couple more years and that's about it.

[SouBeachTalents]

Not even Durant was this bad in game 7 in 2016 against GSW, just saying
This was even worse than Kobe's 6/24, the only one I can think of that was as bad was Curry in Game 7 in 2016

[ImKobe]

This is REALLY bad. This is worse than the 2016 Finals. Steph wasn't THIS BAD. 6/22 for 14 points, 0 pts 0/5FG in the 4th. Load managed all season, had 5 months off.

[bullettooth]

ISH retards (mostly Bron nut huggers) think you're only as good as your last game.

[kentatm]

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[Shogon]

ISH retards (mostly Bron nut huggers) think you're only as good as your last game.

Pot meet kettle, lol.

[Kblaze8855]

Not impossible. Everything is a “If healthy” in sports though. Everyone is always one wrong landing from being done as an elite player.

[ImKobe]

This was even worse than Kobe's 6/24, the only one I can think of that was as bad was Curry in Game 7 in 2016

This was A LOT WORSE. Kobe shot 6/24 but came through in the 4th quarter, at least he got to the FT line and crashed the boards, played better defense. Kawhi had 0 FTA and 0 points in the 4th. Complete no show after the first half.

[LoneyROY7]

Harden with better playoffs stats than Kawhi this year.

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[SpaceJammeR]

people especially lebron haters pushing kawhi to be someone he's not. he's one of the luckiest players ever. played with the spurs org and went to a stacked toronto team and won against an injured gsw. what else has he done?

[Gray GOAT]

His legacy was never anything special. It's filled with asterisks, quitting, tampering and now choking.

[r0drig0lac]

He’s gonna contend for like the next 6 rings.....


I swear ISH thinks every bad loss destroys every stars career....every single year.


Some of these guys get their legacies ruined forever 3-4 years in a row according to you dudes.
:lol

[Gohan]

This was even worse than Kobe's 6/24, the only one I can think of that was as bad was Curry in Game 7 in 2016

Curry was actually injured. I’m also a conspiracy theorist and say curry blew that game on purpose. That behind the back pass sold it for me

[Shogon]

Not impossible. Everything is a “If healthy” in sports though. Everyone is always one wrong landing from being done as an elite player.

Well of course that's true but my point is Kawhi is permanently disabled. He's never going to be a guy that will ever be healthy enough to play an entire season, for the rest of his life... no matter how good of shape he gets in. It's just the cards he was dealt. Sucks, but it is what it is.

[hold this L]

people especially lebron haters pushing kawhi to be someone he's not. he's one of the luckiest players ever. played with the spurs org and went to a stacked toronto team and won against an injured gsw. what else has he done?

You're 100% right. Unfortunately calling this out literally before this series would have left an army of people calling you an idiot. Kawhi has never been a top 3 player in his entire career. After tonight, he's out of the top 5 considering the two who are coming back next season.

[StrongLurk]

I believe Kawhi was 6-26 for the 4th quarter this whole series...wow.

[DMAVS41]

Nope.

He could still win like 2 FMVP's realistically and then what will everyone say here? Almost nothing can ruin the legacy of a guy that has already proven as much as he has.

It was a pretty terrible performance tonight. Definitely will be remembered, but won't be legacy defining unless he starts putting up stinkers like that repeatedly.

[BANE?]

Kawhi is still good, but I can’t think of a series more damaging to a player’s rep in quite some time. He was pretty disappointing outside of game 1.

[kentatm]

Nope.

He could still win like 2 FMVP's realistically and then what will everyone say here? Almost nothing can ruin the legacy of a guy that has already proven as much as he has.

It was a pretty terrible performance tonight. Definitely will be remembered, but won't be legacy defining unless he starts putting up stinkers like that repeatedly.



He was bad but like you said, he's already won the chip as the guy twice.

Now, Micro P?

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His legacy is trashed right now.

[Jay-B]

Please if this was Lebron you haters would been all over it, When was the last time Lebron was knocked out in the 2nd round? So long u probably can’t even remember

[Tobio-Star]

This forum is still filled with dumb-asses with stupid thoughts.

Sure. One season ruins a legacy for a two times FMVP.

MJ stans still bring up 2011 so yeah its ruined. Deal with it

And those FMVPS dont mean brat, he was carried by the Spurs and won against half of GS team

[bullettooth]

MJ stans still bring up 2011 so yeah its ruined. Deal with it

And those FMVPS dont mean brat, he was carried by the Spurs and won against half of GS team

Wanna talk about LeBron's 2012 short season ring? Or perhaps his other two lucky rings that needed 7 games and bailouts?

[999Guy]

Nope.

He could still win like 2 FMVP's realistically and then what will everyone say here? Almost nothing can ruin the legacy of a guy that has already proven as much as he has.

It was a pretty terrible performance tonight. Definitely will be remembered, but won't be legacy defining unless he starts putting up stinkers like that repeatedly.

What has he proven? Winning the title on the 60 win Raptors is a joke.

[TheCorporation]

Wanna talk about LeBron's 2012 short season ring? Or perhaps his other two lucky rings that needed 7 games and bailouts?

snaggle bot shook :lol

[BANE?]

He was bad but like you said, he's already won the chip as the guy twice.

Now, Micro P?

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His legacy is trashed right now.

Will he ever live this down? I can see this breaking him mentally, he was already getting clowned hard. All that shit talking and it’s been choke after choke

[DMAVS41]

What has he proven? Winning the title on the 60 win Raptors is a joke.

It is a joke?

Cool...so how many players in NBA history have proven something in your opinion? Like 20?

[TheCorporation]

Curry was actually injured. I’m also a conspiracy theorist and say curry blew that game on purpose. That behind the back pass sold it for me

Not injured. I'll bump one second.

Stay educated. You're welcome:

Injury talk bump

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[999Guy]

It is a joke?

Cool...so how many players in NBA history have proven something in your opinion? Like 20?Somebody literally HAS to win. It’s a team competition.

I really believe eventually title winners will be like what the hall of fame is right now. Over saturated and shitty.


But Kawhi’s title means nothing to me when judging him as a player.

This series means more. They doubled him until he lost confidence, rhythm and his legs went out. Zero free throws for an elite scorer in peak.

Against a Jokic defense no less.

[lakerstekkenn]

He was bad but like you said, he's already won the chip as the guy twice.

Now, Micro P?

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His legacy is trashed right now.


Yeah Usher's singing days are over

[DMAVS41]

Somebody literally HAS to win. It’s a team competition.

I really believe eventually title winners will be like what the hall of fame is right now. Over saturated and shitty.


But Kawhi’s title means nothing to me when judging him as a player.

This series means more. They doubled him until he lost confidence, rhythm and his legs went out. Zero free throws for an elite scorer in peak.

Against a Jokic defense no less.

Cool.

So being by far the best player and leading a team to a title playing great on both ends...means nothing.

I ask again, what players are actually good in NBA history?

[jlip]

His "legacy" is not ruined even if he never accomplishes anything else the rest of his career because nobody really cares about his legacy. There are very few genuine Kawhi fans, and he is not held to the same standards as people like MJ, Kobe, or Lebron. Yes. He's an all time great player in his prime, but his "legacy" is only relevant to the masses in the context of him beating or winning against Lebron. Without Lebron, very few people would even care about Kawhi.

[BasedTom]

he choked key FTs in 2013 but nobody cared much because he wasn't considered a star yet and was just an up and coming gem for the Spurms
2014 he was FMVP by being better than 40 year old Tim Duncan/Manu/Diaw and benefitting from one of the most team-oriented balanced offenses of all time
2019 he was FMVP by barely squeaking by a GSW team that had all their stars injured

His legacy has always looked better on paper than living through it with the eye test

[SpaceJammeR]

he choked key FTs in 2013 but nobody cared much because he wasn't considered a star yet and was just an up and coming gem for the Spurms
2014 he was FMVP by being better than 40 year old Tim Duncan/Manu/Diaw and benefitting from one of the most team-oriented balanced offenses of all time
2019 he was FMVP by barely squeaking by a GSW team that had all their stars injured



His legacy has always looked better on paper than living through it with the eye test

Exactly what I’ve been saying. One of the luckiest players to have 2 fmvp.

[Basketball r Us]

Well, fans and media have overrated Kawhi. He is young & lots of years left on those wheels. But more performances like this will not help.

[TheGoatest]

Man, that 2014 Finals MVP was such a "Well, we gotta give the Finals MVP to someone" award. One of the weakest finals MVPs ever. You could easily argue that it should've gone to Tony Parker instead. Or even Ginobili, who came off the bench.
If the Heat managed to win one more game and lose in 6 instead of 5, LeBron might've gotten it despite losing.

[CountDracula]

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[BigtimeNBAFan]

Well, fans and media have overrated Kawhi. He is young & lots of years left on those wheels. But more performances like this will not help.

Yeah he certainly isn't done. The Clippers will again be in the mix next year. This sure is a choke though and shouldn't be easily dismissed.

Hopefully the public narrative will change on Kawhi. He is someone who has benefitted by not playing. His legend grew out of being hurt against the Warriors and missing the next season, instead of being criticized for not playing while he was medically cleared and then forcing his way out of a place that had treated him so well.

[Axe]

He could have prevented this by staying in the east instead. He was more fun to watch with the raptors last year.

[Roundball_Rock]

Nope.

He could still win like 2 FMVP's realistically and then what will everyone say here? Almost nothing can ruin the legacy of a guy that has already proven as much as he has.

It was a pretty terrible performance tonight. Definitely will be remembered, but won't be legacy defining unless he starts putting up stinkers like that repeatedly.

This. People are overreacting. If Kawhi retires tomorrow he is an automatic HOFer. This series is a blemish but as was discussed in the similar thread when the Bucks lost regarding Giannis, every legend has these and they tend to be forgotten over time. The only way this will impact his legacy if it becomes a trend and people point to this as the beginning of that. For all we know Kawhi will win 1-2 more rings and have 5-6 more superstar seasons.

[ArbitraryWater]

You're 100% right. Unfortunately calling this out literally before this series would have left an army of people calling you an idiot. Kawhi has never been a top 3 player in his entire career. After tonight, he's out of the top 5 considering the two who are coming back next season.

imagine someone saying this last yr

I do believe he was top 3 last year


but ppl rode his dick and his whole viba/persona HARD

[HylianNightmare]

Huge hit.

[ArbitraryWater]

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[And1AllDay]

GAME 7

6 for 22 :oldlol:

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[kawhileonard2]

He beat Lebron in the finals and thus Lebron legacy is ruined. Hell Dwight Howard beat Lebron in the playoffs without HCA.

[kawhileonard2]

GAME 7

6 for 22 :oldlol:

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In the pivotal game 5 with HCA and Shaq who had 3 finals mvp's and a league mvp that is what Lebron did.