The Lakers have AD, yet the media said Clippers were better because they had Lou W

[3ball]

makes zero sense

Vegas knew better and had the Lakers as favorites the entire time

the media simply lied to legitimize lebron getting tim duncan as a teammate (handed the chamoionship)

[Nilocon165]

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[3ball]

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translation: quit rubbing the truth in

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Hey man that is great. Were you saying this all year? If you were, props to you. Most Lebron haters spent the year saying Kawhi was better and that the Clippers would beat the Lakers. It wasn't Lebron fans that were gushing about the greatness of Kawhi all season.

[sdot_thadon]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP


- AD is much better than people realize and is a more prominent physical force than 35-year lebron - people will quickly realize that it's AD's team and Bron better get him the ball and set him up good

- PG13 just had his best season despite playing with ball-hog Westbrook - he'll have more time with the ball alongside Kawhi, who holds the ball half as much as Westbrook.. It's a testament to PG's great shooting and all-round scoring versatility that he was able to dominate alongside a ball-dominator like Westbrook - it shows that he's essentially another KD


I choose AD . But it's tough because PG13 will get to play a lot of primary ball-handler for the first time in his career, so he'll average 30+ easy


PG13 just had his best season despite playing with ball-hog Westbrook - he'll have more time with the ball alongside Kawhi, who holds the ball half as much as Westbrook..

PG13 will get to play a lot of primary ball-handler for the first time in his career, so he'll average 30+ easy

It's a testament to PG's great shooting and all-round scoring versatility that he was able to dominate alongside a ball-dominator like Westbrook - it shows that he's essentially another KD

I disagree - PG was great alongside Westbrook just like KD because he's on KD's level

But KD was even better alongside non-ball-dominator Curry, and so will PG alongside Kawhi

PG13 will explode alongside kawhi

PG13 will likely average 30+ and MVP, if not for AD

[HBK_Kliq_2]

And clippers were still a few shots away from beating nuggets in 5 games. They just couldn't overcome the 2 man lineup of Lou/Harrell. Roster tweaks this off-season should put them back on top or else Kawhi is leaving in 2021 off-season.

But remember, this bubble hoop has a easy backboard that a 6th grader can make it on. You know those hoops you play pick up ball on that are way too easy to make it? Shooters gym is what they call it, that's what the bubble hoops are like. So Jamal Murray got hot for a stretch in front of no fans. Clippers will be back once they get out of this bubble crap.

[Roundball_Rock]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP

:roll:

Then there was the 47 page thread where 1-9ball and his disciples and other MJ stans swore PG was clearly better than a consensus top 30 all-time player (specially raving about his alpha alpha scoring ability). That was about a month ago. Now he is a bum? :lol

[Nilocon165]

And clippers were still a few shots away from beating nuggets in 5 games. They just couldn't overcome the 2 man lineup of Lou/Harrell. Roster tweaks this off-season should put them back on top or else Kawhi is leaving in 2021 off-season.

But remember, this bubble hoop has a easy backboard that a 6th grader can make it on. You know those hoops you play pick up ball on that are way too easy to make it? Shooters gym is what they call it, that's what the bubble hoops are like. So Jamal Murray got hot for a stretch in front of no fans. Clippers will be back once they get out of this bubble crap.
Lol you’re making it way too easy for people to know you’re just trolling

[1987_Lakers]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP

:roll:

[light]

makes zero sense

Vegas knew better and had the Lakers as favorites the entire time

the media simply lied to legitimize lebron getting tim duncan as a teammate (handed the chamoionship)

No you're missing important elements to that conversation - Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

- George just came off finishing 3rd in MVP. When the season started he was considered to be a better sidekick than Anthony Davis.

- Leonard just came off a Finals MVP. When the season started he was considered to be a better player than LeBron James.

Those are the primary reasons why the masses thought the Clippers were better.

The depth argument came after those two considerations and made it seem like the Clippers were the clear choice.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lol you’re making it way too easy for people to know you’re just trolling

Its easier to make it on bubble hoops then it is on normal nba hoops. So the variance for guys like Mitchell/Murray having great games is all over the place. Plus the no fans factor. I'm just throwing out a theory, I'm not claming it as fact.

Kawhi was also shooting a career high 55% FG on 2 point attempts

[NBAGOAT]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP

:lol he can’t even respond to this one

[Gray GOAT]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP

:roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

No you're missing important elements to that conversation - Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

- George just came off finishing 3rd in MVP. When the season started he was considered to be a better sidekick than Anthony Davis.

- Leonard just came off a Finals MVP. When the season started he was considered to be a better player than LeBron James.

Those are the primary reasons why the masses thought the Clippers were better.

The depth argument came after those two considerations and made it seem like the Clippers were the clear choice.

Not only that, Kawhi and PG were joining a core that won 48 games and took 2 games off the Warriors in the first round when they had SGA, Gallo in the roster spots vacated to make room for Kawhi and PG. Davis was a team that won 35 games and shipped off Ingram (who 1-9ball said is a top 10-12 all-time scorer), Ball, and Hart to acquire Davis. The Clippers roster was intact, outside of swapping the SGA/Gallo for Kawhi/PG.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Not only that, Kawhi and PG were joining a core that won 48 games and took 2 games off the Warriors in the first round when they had SGA, Gallo in the roster spots vacated to make room for Kawhi and PG. Davis was a team that won 35 games and shipped off Ingram (who 1-9ball said is a top 10-12 all-time scorer), Ball, and Hart to acquire Davis. The Clippers roster was intact, outside of swapping the SGA/Gallo for Kawhi/PG.

You have to look at the context though.

Clippers got rid of the only reasons they were decent (Gallo and Shai).

Lakers got rid of their garbage (Ingram, Lonzo, Hart) and replaced him with arguably the best big man in the league. LeBron also only played about half the season in 2019.

[Roundball_Rock]

You have to look at the context though.

Clippers got rid of the only reasons they were decent (Gallo and Shai).

Lakers got rid of their garbage (Ingram, Lonzo, Hart) and replaced him with arguably the best big man in the league. LeBron also only played about half the season in 2019.

You are ignoring the impact of Williams, Harrell on the 19' team. Williams was their leading scorer and Harrell third (Gallo was second).

Ingram is an all-star (who OP says is one of the top 10-12 best scorers in NBA history :oldlol: ). Ball a good 15/6/7 player who is only 22. Hart is a solid piece. A lot of Lakers fans complained about the trade saying the Lakers gutted the team and the "young core" they raved about (these people wanted to take a L in 20', sign AD as a FA with the core intact--but this would waste another year of LeBron as a MVP caliber palyer). Now they are being spun as trash?

LeBron did miss time but they weren't great when he played either (28-27). So it is that 28-27 team minus Ingram, Ball, and Hart plus AD.

There are reasons why the Clippers were expected to be better than the Lakers and the Clippers adding more (two superstars, not one) to an already solid roster was part of that.


Heading into 2018-19, the Golden State Warriors received every first-place vote in this category. Now there's more competition, with the LA Clippers leading the way as the most likely NBA champion.

1. LA Clippers: 117 points (54.5% first-place votes)

2. Milwaukee Bucks: 85 points (36.4% first-place votes)

3. Philadelphia 76ers: 38 points (6.1% first-place votes)

4. Los Angeles Lakers: 29 points

5. Golden State Warriors: 15 points (3.0% first-place votes)

6. Houston Rockets: 11 points

7. Utah Jazz: 3 points

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27426015/nba-preseason-predictions-our-experts-picks-2019-20

USA Today had the Lakers at around 50 wins and the 5 seed in their season preview IIRC.

[KD7]

Are we witnessing the GOAT ISH meltdown with 3ball these past few days :oldlol:

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You are ignoring the impact of Williams, Harrell on the 19' team. Williams was their leading scorer and Harrell third (Gallo was second).

Ingram is an all-star (who OP says is one of the top 10-12 best scorers in NBA history :oldlol: ). Ball a good 15/6/7 player who is only 22. Hart is a solid piece. A lot of Lakers fans complained about the trade saying the Lakers gutted the team and the "young core" they raved about (these people wanted to take a L in 20', sign AD as a FA with the core intact--but this would waste another year of LeBron as a MVP caliber palyer). Now they are being spun as trash?

LeBron did miss time but they weren't great when he played either (28-27). So it is that 28-27 team minus Ingram, Ball, and Hart plus AD.

There are reasons why the Clippers were expected to be better than the Lakers and the Clippers adding more (two superstars, not one) to an already solid roster was part of that.



https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27426015/nba-preseason-predictions-our-experts-picks-2019-20

USA Today had the Lakers at around 50 wins and the 5 seed in their season preview IIRC.

But lou/harrell are unplayable in playoffs vs top 3 seed teams. We saw how bad they did, they were literally the reason that clippers aren't playing anymore. I find a hard time believing any team with Lou/Harrell in their rotation would ever make a conference finals. Kawhi is just that damn good and had them inches away. Its like tom Brady in 2006 throwing balls to reche Caldwell and barely missing the Superbowl.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I'm not trying to pick on Harrell, his grandma died and Doc is an idiot for playing him at center vs Jokic

The guy was just embarrassingly bad though. I can't remember a duo going -16 net rating and their team still winning a ring. Plus George was being a bitch all year as well. Kawhi just had his hands full this year.

[Roundball_Rock]

Are we witnessing the GOAT ISH meltdown with 3ball these past few days :oldlol:

Yes--and the Lakers haven't even won a WCF game yet let alone a finals game or the chip. :lol


But lou/harrell are unplayable in playoffs vs top 3 seed teams. We saw how bad they did, they were literally the reason that clippers aren't playing anymore. I find a hard time believing any team with Lou/Harrell in their rotation would ever make a conference finals.

This is after the fact spin. No one was saying this when the Clippers spent over a full year as favorites (from July 19' all the way to mid-September 20'). They were viewed as assets and rightfully so: no other contender had #3/#4 options that good other than Boston.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Yes--and the Lakers haven't even won a WCF game yet let alone a finals game or the chip. :lol



This is after the fact spin. No one was saying this when the Clippers spent over a full year as favorites (from July 19' all the way to mid-September 20'). They were viewed as assets and rightfully so: no other contender had #3/#4 options that good other than Boston.

Regular season can disguise their weaknesses and kawhi can disguise their weaknesses. Playoffs Lou and Harrell have always been exposed as cucks. Lou and Harrell are career playoff busts. With them on your team as rotation players and teammates, you're pretty much guaranteed to allow a 120 offensive rating. Hopefully clippers split them up this offseason.

[AussieSteve]

Media said that the Clippers would win because they were a 48 win team that added two All NBA 1st teamers without really losing anything except picks.

The Lakers were a 35 win team who gave up most of their core to get their two All NBA 1st teamers.

Seems pretty legit to me.

[Roundball_Rock]

Media said that the Clippers would win because they were a 48 win team that added two All NBA 1st teamers without really losing anything except picks.

The Lakers were a 35 win team who gave up most of their core to get their two All NBA 1st teamers.

Seems pretty legit to me.

Exactly.

[Turbo Slayer]

1st ALLTIME MVP Award Shares! :hammertime:

LeGoat!

[FireDavidKahn]

makes zero sense

Vegas knew better and had the Lakers as favorites the entire time

the media simply lied to legitimize lebron getting tim duncan as a teammate (handed the chamoionship)

Oh, cool.

Using Vegas odds LeBron was only ever favored in 2 championships.

so by definition he's overachieved:bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

Hey man that is great. Were you saying this all year? If you were, props to you. Most Lebron haters spent the year saying Kawhi was better and that the Clippers would beat the Lakers. It wasn't Lebron fans that were gushing about the greatness of Kawhi all season.

op getting undressed itt

[And1AllDay]

How about I just leave this here....

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?470227-AD-or-PG13-will-win-2020-MVP

ban 1-9 ball :oldlol:

[Nike D'Antoni]

Because Paul George was 3rd in MVP voting last year, but somehow regressed this year.