How many lives has Trump's Coronavirus Team saved?

[Cleverness]

How many lives has Trump's hand-picked Coronavirus Task Force saved?

I'm going with 0 lives saved from COVID-19 and approximately 60,000 (https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1308563631039303686/photo/1) additional deaths due to his team's policies.

But I know there are some HUGE fans of Trump's coronavirus team on this forum (bladefd, TheMan, highwhey, n00bie, ~primetime~, Rooster, rufuspaul, ItsMillerTime, 4pointshot), so their estimates will be high no doubt.

According to CNN, MSNBC, and Democrats/Joe Biden, etc, Trump is directly responsible for the virus outcomes. Thus, by their own recent predictions, Trump's hand-picked task force has saved MILLIONS of lives!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiY_GWuU0AAG9PM?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikAGteU4AMWoyJ?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eij__pdVkAAYqAz?format=jpg&name=small
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/503468-fauci-defends-coronavirus-lockdowns-as-saving-millions-of-lives

Note that Trump's hand-picked task force includes quack scientists, such as:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikEka8U8AA692J?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikFFeaUcAAyR98?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikEjdGVgAAnMKO?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikEifgU8AAKLq0?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EikEhkvVgAAzJF8?format=jpg&name=small

[diamenz]

damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.

[starface]

damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.

Huh?

OP seemed to be grouping people based on their reaction to coronavirus.

Rufuspaul has been (and still is) hiding under his bed from corona.

[Cleverness]

damn, bro. you grouped rufus up with the liberals? just because the guy has some criticisms of trump he's an 'omb' guy now? you did that man bogus.


Oh I don't know, maybe acknowledge that the virus is real? Maybe listen to and follow the advice of scientists and medical professionals? Maybe mobilize a national effort to test and contact trace like most other 1st world countries have done? Maybe not cheer on idiots that were protesting the lockdown? Maybe not chastise governors and mayors for not opening back up too quickly? Maybe have just an ounce of compassion for people who are suffering and dying?


Here in NC our governor is getting flak for keeping the state in phase 2 for another 5 weeks. Truth be told we should've never moved out of phase 1. Our trends are pointing towards another total lockdown since we didn't get the 1st one right.

He seems to have no clue what's going on and never responded to any of my follow-ups to his posts. His pseudo-scientific, communistic approach to this uncontrollable seasonal coronavirus is disheartening to say the least.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14051094&viewfull=1#post14051094
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14053068&viewfull=1#post14053068

You've been completely ignorant throughout all this, so let me help you with some data on North Carolina:

Total hospital beds in use: 14,317 / 21,444 . 67% full. source (https://abc11.com/coronavirus-nc-north-carolina-covid-19-hospital-beds/6056253/)
Hospital beds w/ COVID currently: 1,147 source (https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard/hospitalizations)

Only 5.3% of NC hospital beds are being used by patients with COVID. But keep in mind that some of those patients aren't even in FOR COVID, but simply WITH COVID & many of these patients are ill regardless of COVID, so they could have been hospitalized regardless of COVID.

DHHS spokeswoman Sarah Lewis Peel: “On any given day, our hospitals — by design — operate at 90 to 100% capacity. That’s why we have sought waivers to allow critical access hospitals to operate above their licensed capacity,”


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

Mild scenario: 10 million. Moderate scenario: 21 million. Dire scenario: 31 million hospitalizations

Actual number thus far: 0.45 million (inflated (https://twitter.com/PryTo5/status/1262184346703802373/)) (CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html))

We are far below the mild scenario, but with the dire scenario hysteria. As a healthcare provider, I hope you now have a better understanding of the situation. God bless.

[diamenz]

i misunderstood, then. when i see a name list consisting of bladefd, millertime, etc and then see rufus grouped up in there too it's just... strange to see.

[jstern]

I hate to agree with CNN, but 5.6 million sounds about right.

It took balls to close down one of the greatest economies of all time, while being called a xenophobe and a racist for banning China. Not many people could have done that under similar circumstances.

Just being called a xenophobe and a racist in it self would have delayed other Presidents for who knows how many weeks. And that delay would had caused that China virus to spread at an unimaginable, exponential level.

People forget, but if you remember back to even March, people thought it was silly to even suspend the NBA season. Posters like Walk on Water got their threads deleted for suggesting such a thing. Yet Trump understood the situation and he took all the criticism, saving millions in the process.

[TheMan]

Lol, nobody is buying your narrative OP...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19 response. We still lead the world in covid19 deaths with Brazil and India on our heels, those are countries the US shouldn't ever be grouped in with.

FOH shill

[BigKobeFan]

Best case scenario was 2m deaths. So trump saved a lot

[Cleverness]

Lol, nobody is buying your narrative OP...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19 response. We still lead the world in covid19 deaths with Brazil and India on our heels, those are countries the US shouldn't ever be grouped in with.

FOH shill

Your response to the facts is "check the polls on what Americans believe about Trump."

Wow. Solid response bro. :applause:

Why not try to answer the question and have a discussion about his team's response and how many lives it has saved? Go on, try it.

[SATAN]

Terrible logic, OP. And no, I won't buy into your petty argument.

[Cleverness]

Terrible logic, OP. And no, I won't buy into your petty argument.

Why not try to answer the question and have a discussion about his team's response and how many lives it has saved? Go on, try it.

[SATAN]

Because the argument will keep going around in circles. There's absolutely no point.

[Cleverness]

Because the argument will keep going around in circles. There's absolutely no point.

:facepalm

[Cleverness]

zero, trump has handled covid terribly.

ernie, i gotta tell you, he's turrible.

To be fair, his team was doing great until mid-March. That's when they ditched the pro-science playbook for the CCP's playbook.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1270925788389486593.html
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/china-covid-lockdown-propaganda



Dr. Fauci RE Woodward's fake news: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1303762016151232513
Dr. Fauci says that he never got the sense that President Trump was downplaying COVID-19:

"I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

The fact is he followed Dr. Fauci's lead all year.

February: Dr. Fauci: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/)

Fauci: Flu a Bigger Risk in the US Than Coronavirus (https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/02/15/disease-expert--flu-a-bigger-risk-in-the-us-than-coronavirus)

February 29th: Dr. Fauci on coronavirus fears: No need to change lifestyle yet (https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci-on-coronavirus-fears-no-need-to-change-lifestyle-yet-79684677616)

March 8th: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes. (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/health/medical/preventing-coronavirus-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/ar-BB10VE1c)

March 9th: “No reason” not to go on cruise if you’re young and healthy: Fauci (https://globalnews.ca/video/6653403/covid-19-no-reason-not-to-go-on-cruise-if-youre-young-and-healthy-fauci)


Then Fauci did a 180, replaced decades of hard science for pseudoscience, and our politicians caved to media/fear/hysteria and went with draconian lockdowns for 15 days to flatten the curve (which has turned into 2 years of tyranny) http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104037&viewfull=1#post14104037
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104041&viewfull=1#post14104041

They predicted between 10 million to 31 million hospitalizations from COVID (LOL). Actual data from CDC so far is approx 0.4 million http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14103771&viewfull=1#post14103771

[bladefd]

Let me tell you how this would go.

-If I give you a high number, you respond: "See?? Trump did a great job saving all those people by putting that great team together! Yet you are all like OMB."

-If I give you a low number, you respond: "See?? Fauci and birx and these other clowns were worthless! They didn't do anything! It was Trump's quick decision taking covid seriously from day 1 that saved people! Yet you are all like OMB." ..... Or "See? Covid was never a legit issue. It was just a cold like Trump was saying all along! Yet you were all like OMB."

Here's a 3rd answer that I'm choosing: thread is agenda-driven. Get lost. See you after the election.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

I seen the misleading shit you were posting in the other virus thread. There's no point discussing anything of this nature with you. (no offense)

I wrote a long post about a "conservative" I knew who recently died but deleted it to avoid giving dickheads something to troll about. The gist though:

Some of the nonsense some of you guys come up with reminds me a lot of how he used to often act. I would sometimes tell him he was wrong about something - Things that don't involve any moral perspectives but verifiable facts. He just acted like it were impossible for himself to ever be wrong. The left, socialists, greens, communists ect ect were apparently out to get him and he constantly watched Fox. I ended up snapping on him after all the lies, ignorance, bigotry and childish behavior. After that I seen him one time. He was diagnosed and subsequently dead shortly after. He was not a bad guy but these thoughts would constantly occupy his mind.

I know the tactics and stupid mind game that's being played. It's not interesting at all and not worth the energy. It's easier to just laugh at the stupidity here and keep it moving.

[warriorfan]

I seen the misleading shit you were posting in the other virus thread. There's no point discussing anything of this nature with you. (no offense)

I wrote a long post about a "conservative" I knew who recently died but deleted it to avoid giving dickheads something to troll about. The gist though:

Some of the nonsense some of you guys come up with reminds me a lot of how he used to often act. I would sometimes tell him he was wrong about something - Things that don't involve any moral perspectives but verifiable facts. He just acted like it were impossible for himself to ever be wrong. The left, socialists, greens, communists ect ect were apparently out to get him and he constantly watched Fox. I ended up snapping on him after all the lies, ignorance, bigotry and childish behavior. After that I seen him one time. He was diagnosed and subsequently dead shortly after. He was not a bad guy but these thoughts would constantly occupy his mind.

I know the tactics and stupid mind game that's being played. It's not interesting at all and not worth the energy. It's easier to just laugh at the stupidity here and keep it moving.

Cool story bro.

Jk, it was stupid as shit. No one cares about your gay little friend, or you for that matter.

[Stanley Kobrick]

I seen the misleading shit you were posting in the other virus thread. There's no point discussing anything of this nature with you. (no offense)

I wrote a long post about a "conservative" I knew who recently died but deleted it to avoid giving dickheads something to troll about. The gist though:

Some of the nonsense some of you guys come up with reminds me a lot of how he used to often act. I would sometimes tell him he was wrong about something - Things that don't involve any moral perspectives but verifiable facts. He just acted like it were impossible for himself to ever be wrong. The left, socialists, greens, communists ect ect were apparently out to get him and he constantly watched Fox. I ended up snapping on him after all the lies, ignorance, bigotry and childish behavior. After that I seen him one time. He was diagnosed and subsequently dead shortly after. He was not a bad guy but these thoughts would constantly occupy his mind.

I know the tactics and stupid mind game that's being played. It's not interesting at all and not worth the energy. It's easier to just laugh at the stupidity here and keep it moving.very high iq post and philosophy

[~primetime~]

I'm going with 0 lives saved from COVID-19 and approximately 60,000 (https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1308563631039303686/photo/1) additional deaths due to his team's policies.

This says that people are dying at home because they aren't going to hospitals to get treated...but hospitals have never shut down...there is no 'policy' that did this to people, it was their own choice to stay home.

[Patrick Chewing]

If the projected total was 2.2 million, and we are nowhere near that some 7 months later, then I'd say Trump and his administration did a FANTASTIC job.

[~primetime~]

He seems to have no clue what's going on and never responded to any of my follow-ups to his posts. His pseudo-scientific, communistic approach to this uncontrollable seasonal coronavirus is disheartening to say the least.

yeah rufus, the closest thing this dying forum has to a doctor...or you, a random nobody who just googles up graphs that point in the direction you want them to. :lol

[~primetime~]

If the projected total was 2.2 million, and we are nowhere near that some 7 months later, then I'd say Trump and his administration did a FANTASTIC job.

funny, when I pinned the shutdown on Trump you declared he had NOTHING to do with it...it was all on the individual Governors for each state

[coin24]

I notice the covid lovers have gone quiet since they admitted only 6% of the deaths were legit. So 12,000 out of the supposed 200k..

So 12,000 out of 350 million people died of the flu.
Talk about hook, line and sinker. You morons :oldlol:

[starface]

I notice the covid lovers have gone quiet since they admitted only 6% of the deaths were legit. So 12,000 out of the supposed 200k..

So 12,000 out of 350 million people died of the flu.
Talk about hook, line and sinker. You morons :oldlol:


The whole covid thing ended up being good for me personally, because there were opportunities to take advantage of... but my faith in general humanity really took a hit. To see SO MANY pure simpletons so easily put into hysterics over something the government clearly manipulated to seem far bigger than it really was... it’s genuinely mind numbing. It shows you the government has total control over our population, and pretty much has carte blanche to do anything going forward, as long as they concoct the simplest of pretenses to arouse the emotions of the herd.

[Patrick Chewing]

funny, when I pinned the shutdown on Trump you declared he had NOTHING to do with it...it was all on the individual Governors for each state

Huh? The shutdown was a mistake, but each governor had the authority to do it or not. Not everything has to be a "gotcha" moment with you people. You should give Trump credit where credit is due. You'll feel better about yourselves.

[~primetime~]

Huh? The shutdown was a mistake, but each governor had the authority to do it or not. Not everything has to be a "gotcha" moment with you people. You should give Trump credit where credit is due. You'll feel better about yourselves.

I'll give him credit...but if he had nothing to do with the precautions taken that kept 200k death from being 2m dead...what am I giving him credit for?

[Patrick Chewing]

I'll give him credit...but if he had nothing to do with the precautions taken that kept 200k death from being 2m dead...what am I giving him credit for?

Trump is the facilitator and the one calling the shots. Only he ordered the necessary equipment and the hospital ship that landed in New York harbor.


And it's true what he says, the previous administration left our resources bare. So any delay in tackling the disease could be argued stemmed from having to start from behind in the first place.

[~primetime~]

I said that same thing...Trump was calling the shots, he laid down the guidelines for the shutdown and everything else that Governors were to follow...when I stated that I got push back from the Trumpers here.

[TheMan]

The whole covid thing ended up being good for me personally, because there were opportunities to take advantage of... but my faith in general humanity really took a hit. To see SO MANY pure simpletons so easily put into hysterics over something the government clearly manipulated to seem far bigger than it really was... it’s genuinely mind numbing. It shows you the government has total control over our population, and pretty much has carte blanche to do anything going forward, as long as they concoct the simplest of pretenses to arouse the emotions of the herd.
The whole world government thingy? Since it is a whole world pandemic, every government in the world is in cahoots to fake a virus...ok.

Meh, not worth it to get all worked up arguing with some of you who are so far down the rabbit hole, just a waste of time. Go on believing all the doctors/health professionals/CDC/WHO/government officials and everyone else involved world wide are conspiring to keep us all down.

https://media.tenor.com/images/277e7f0d4e14f2165973eb4cc5b7d70e/tenor.gif

[tpols]

The whole covid thing ended up being good for me personally, because there were opportunities to take advantage of... but my faith in general humanity really took a hit. To see SO MANY pure simpletons so easily put into hysterics over something the government clearly manipulated to seem far bigger than it really was... it’s genuinely mind numbing. It shows you the government has total control over our population, and pretty much has carte blanche to do anything going forward, as long as they concoct the simplest of pretenses to arouse the emotions of the herd.

They do it all the time... remember the WMDs? George Bush Sr. earlier saying Iraqi's were killing infants on television to start the first war. It all stems from invoking emotional appeal. If you can make someone afraid or angry, you can control them. Just like when they used to accuse people of being witches in the middle ages and the mob would latch onto the hysteria and go crazy. We havent evolved at all since then. You're right though it does ultimately boil down to the fact that most people are retarded.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump saved us.

[warriorfan]

6 million is a conservative estimate. This virus is extremely dangerous.

[Cleverness]

Let me tell you how this would go.

-If I give you a high number, you respond: "See?? Trump did a great job saving all those people by putting that great team together! Yet you are all like OMB."

-If I give you a low number, you respond: "See?? Fauci and birx and these other clowns were worthless! They didn't do anything! It was Trump's quick decision taking covid seriously from day 1 that saved people! Yet you are all like OMB." ..... Or "See? Covid was never a legit issue. It was just a cold like Trump was saying all along! Yet you were all like OMB."

Here's a 3rd answer that I'm choosing: thread is agenda-driven. Get lost. See you after the election.

Let me tell you how this went.

I asked a question and you, TheMan, and SATAN ducked and dodged, as always.

[Cleverness]

...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19

FOH shill

You dodged, but here's a 2nd followup to your nonsense.

Americans believe 9% (https://www.kekstcnc.com/media/2793/kekstcnc_research_covid-19_opinion_tracker_wave-4.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3HgPih2KPCdE8RUWogxBrn_yEMrNqDXdG 16GYQPTj73Vkh23Jtb-tLH8U) of the country (29,000,000 people) has died from COVID-19. "But polls say" isn't answering the question.

We have to be led by science and data, not polls. Following the polls is one reason we're in this mess.

[TheMan]

You dodged, but here's a 2nd followup to your nonsense.

Americans believe 9% (https://www.kekstcnc.com/media/2793/kekstcnc_research_covid-19_opinion_tracker_wave-4.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3HgPih2KPCdE8RUWogxBrn_yEMrNqDXdG 16GYQPTj73Vkh23Jtb-tLH8U) of the country (29,000,000 people) has died from COVID-19. "But polls say" isn't answering the question.

We have to be led by science and data, not polls. Following the polls is one reason we're in this mess.
I'm not even gonna waste my time arguing with a kook like you who believes covid19 is fake, yeah yeah yeah it's all a worldwide conspiracy by EVERY government in cahoots to keep their population down and to get rid of Trump while they are at it.

[SATAN]

Let me tell you how this went.

I asked a question and you, TheMan, and SATAN ducked and dodged, as always.

It's because you're a ****ing dickhead that isn't worth talking to. I know you think you're smart, but you're making a fool out of yourself to anyone with a brain.

[Cleverness]

I'm not even gonna waste my time arguing with a kook like you who believes covid19 is fake, yeah yeah yeah it's all a worldwide conspiracy by EVERY government in cahoots to keep their population down and to get rid of Trump while they are at it.

I never said it any of that.

[Axe]

welfarefan voted for 6 million wtf :wtf::facepalm

[Hittin_Shots]

I never said it any of that.

They come up with an opinion that they think they can refute then assign it to you and argue against it.

[ZenMaster]

I'm not even gonna waste my time arguing with a kook like you who believes covid19 is fake, yeah yeah yeah it's all a worldwide conspiracy by EVERY government in cahoots to keep their population down and to get rid of Trump while they are at it.

Pathetic post..

It's been outlined for you numerous times that no one believes there's a worldwide conspiracy. Hittin_Shots is right on the money, you take your own crazy ideas and put them on others so you can feel superior while calling them conspiracy theorists.

It's so fking weak man.

[warriorfan]

yeah rufus, the closest thing this dying forum has to a doctor...or you, a random nobody who just googles up graphs that point in the direction you want them to. :lol

Lmao.

Primetime getting pissed off after getting his nonsense shoved back up his ass for 6 months straight.

[Shooter]

Lol, nobody is buying your narrative OP...check all the polls, a decided majority of Americans believe Trump fukked up on the covid19 response. We still lead the world in covid19 deaths with Brazil and India on our heels, those are countries the US shouldn't ever be grouped in with.

FOH shill

I'm going to piece this together for you because you seem very confused

Gavin Newsom and all the other liberal cucks said the Corona virus was going to kill millions and millions and millions

The actual fatality numbers turned out to be MUCH, MUCH less which means that Trump's Rona Task force must have done an amazing job.

Do you get it now?

[TheMan]

I'm going to piece this together for you because you seem very confused

Gavin Newsom and all the other liberal cucks said the Corona virus was going to kill millions and millions and millions

The actual fatality numbers turned out to be MUCH, MUCH less which means that Trump's Rona Task force must have done an amazing job.

Do you get it now?
We just passed one million dead worldwide and its believed by John Hopkins University that that number is being undercounted because a lot of countries don't have the capacity to test to officially confirm...the US has almost one fourth of the official worldwide total. I DGAF what those governors said, the buck stop at the top, Trump kept lying (he's on tape) to the American people about what HE considered a very serious virus, kept undermining his own health experts, never formulated a national plan of any sort, even politicized the use of masks that have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to at least slow down the spread. Tens of thousands needlessly died because a lot of people were going to die from this, you can't expect zero deaths obviously. It is unacceptable that the US had so many deaths, and this thing isn't over yet, scientists believe we're in for a second wave as cold weather sets in with 3K daily deaths, da fukk are you talking about? Trump is getting hammered by his shitty covid19 response, as well he should and if he loses, that will be the reason why.

[jstern]

Trump, I don't know how he caught this Kung-Flu, but he could have possibly saved his own life by spear heading companies to rapidly produce life saving therapeutics, vaccines, that would have other wise taken at least a year and a half before they could be approved. He has had to fight people who do not want a vaccine before the November 3rd election.

[Nanners]

yeah rufus, the closest thing this dying forum has to a doctor...or you, a random nobody who just googles up graphs that point in the direction you want them to. :lol

give me a break... I like Rufus too but it doesnt change the fact that a dentist has more in common with the fresh off the boat manicurist at your local nail salon than they have with an actual medical doctor

[Axe]

It was 6 million according to the welfarefan

[Cleverness]

Joe Biden throws his favorite quack under the bus

https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1319076309771825152?s=19

[Nanners]

Joe Biden throws his favorite quack under the bus

https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1319076309771825152?s=19

:oldlol:

easily the best biden ad ive seen

[Axe]

They said all the cases will instantly dissolve by november 3 but fast forward to two months later and nothing's changed. Things only got worse. :ohwell:

[Axe]

With less than 5 days to go before he finally leaves office, he left them with around 24 million cases and almost 400k deaths too. :(

[bladefd]

With less than 5 days to go before he finally leaves office, he left them with around 24 million cases and almost 400k deaths too. :(

Yet the clown wants a 21-shot salute on his way out. :oldlol:

Donny, get your McDonald eating fatass outta here or we toss you to the curb on Wednesday. You ain't getting any salute - get the f*ck lost.

[ZenMaster]

Yet the clown wants a 21-shot salute on his way out. :oldlol:

Donny, get your McDonald eating fatass outta here or we toss you to the curb on Wednesday. You ain't getting any salute - get the f*ck lost.

So you're here cringing it up showing you have Trump on your mind, while ghosting a thread where you'd actually have to discuss something serious - you're such a weak minded person :oldlol:
From the bottom of my heart, considering how you write on here along with the fact that you're still living with your parents in stream heaven, I hope you're in your very early twenties and is just looking for a break in the job market.
Real life isn't on the internet buddy, don't just sit there and stream your life away. Get out, see the world meet some women who will open up new sides of yourself, sure you might end up hurt in short run situations, but that is a part of growing as a person.

[Mr. Woke]

Lol at the MAGAtards doing damage control ITT!

[ZenMaster]

Lol at the MAGAtards doing damage control ITT!

It must be tiring and boring to sit every day and have to make these short and aggressive sentiment posts, never discussing anything.
This is you in just the last two minutes:


Trump supporters did vote for a pedo and a racist.

Good thing I am on the right side of history.


Many MAGAtards on this forum have alternate accounts.

The only reason why Patty is winning is because of voter fraud.

Typical conservative shitstain. They cannot win honestly, and they love cheating/rigging elections.


Kenny and Jstern are the same person.


All the MAGAtards obviously.

When Biden gets sworn in, they are gonna be on suicide watch.

[TheMan]

So you're here cringing it up showing you have Trump on your mind, while ghosting a thread where you'd actually have to discuss something serious - you're such a weak minded person :oldlol:
From the bottom of my heart, considering how you write on here along with the fact that you're still living with your parents in stream heaven, I hope you're in your very early twenties and is just looking for a break in the job market.
Real life isn't on the internet buddy, don't just sit there and stream your life away. Get out, see the world meet some women who will open up new sides of yourself, sure you might end up hurt in short run situations, but that is a part of growing as a person.:milton

This rant is quite hilarious coming from you of all people. You were throwing a hissy fit posting nonstop your convoluted conspiracy theories for well over a month on how the fat orange retard had the election stolen from him :ohwell:

[ZenMaster]

:milton

This rant is quite hilarious coming from you of all people. You were throwing a hissy fit posting nonstop your convoluted conspiracy theories for well over a month on how the fat orange retard had the election stolen from him :ohwell:

I made threads about and were willing to discuss election fraud, there was plenty of it and election integrity in the US is at a very low level - the big trick being that they've convinced the majority of people that bad things in elections only happen in the other Americas.
I don't sit here every day and go through thread by thread writing aggressive stuff about leftists, usually I only join the conversation if I feel there's something to add which hasn't already been said.

[Mr. Woke]

It must be tiring and boring to sit every day and have to make these short and aggressive sentiment posts, never discussing anything.
This is you in just the last two minutes:

It must be tiring for you to have to invent/spread conspiracy theories in order to defend Trump.

Don't let me live rent free in your mind for too long.

[Axe]

I think this is one of the main reasons why he lost; not being able to save much lives during the pandemic.

[Axe]

Yet the clown wants a 21-shot salute on his way out. :oldlol:

Donny, get your McDonald eating fatass outta here or we toss you to the curb on Wednesday. You ain't getting any salute - get the f*ck lost.
MAGA no more :(

[Cleverness]

Yet the clown wants a 21-shot salute on his way out. :oldlol:

Donny, get your McDonald eating fatass outta here or we toss you to the curb on Wednesday. You ain't getting any salute - get the f*ck lost.

How ironic.

You've approved of Trump's National State of Emergency and Trump's Coronavirus Task Force for the past year.

OTOH, I've been arguing against his National State of Emergency and his quack team.

[Cleverness]

I think this is one of the main reasons why he lost; not being able to save much lives during the pandemic.

I've explained it several times.

95% of Democrats approve of Trump's Coronavirus Task Force and Trump's National State of Emergency (which enables trillions in spending, lockdowns, mask mandates, etc), yet Dems are so brainwashed by the Official Narrative that they love the face of Trump's Team (Fauci) while simultaneously hating Trump - Dem voters have NFC what is going on.

Republicans got split; some of them recognized that these lockdowns come from Trump; he could end them all, but he stuck with Fauci all year and never let up with his National State of Emergency. The rest of Republicans & MAGA (also brainwashed) either turned a blind eye or have NFC what's going on and are too tribal to fight for freedom since it would be against their own guy (Trump).

[warriorfan]

I've explained it several times.

95% of Democrats approve of Trump's Coronavirus Task Force and Trump's National State of Emergency (which enables trillions in spending, lockdowns, mask mandates, etc), yet Dems are so brainwashed by the Official Narrative that they love the face of Trump's Team (Fauci) while simultaneously hating Trump - Dem voters have NFC what is going on.

Republicans got split; some of them recognized that these lockdowns come from Trump; he could end them all, but he stuck with Fauci all year and never let up with his National State of Emergency. The rest of Republicans & MAGA (also brainwashed) either turned a blind eye or have NFC what's going on and are too tribal to fight for freedom since it would be against their own guy (Trump).

Trump was somewhat forced into the lockdowns. I believe he wanted to do not go the lockdown route but was feeling pressure and knew it would be used against him in the up coming election. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t.

[Axe]

I've explained it several times.

95% of Democrats approve of Trump's Coronavirus Task Force and Trump's National State of Emergency (which enables trillions in spending, lockdowns, mask mandates, etc), yet Dems are so brainwashed by the Official Narrative that they love the face of Trump's Team (Fauci) while simultaneously hating Trump - Dem voters have NFC what is going on.

Republicans got split; some of them recognized that these lockdowns come from Trump; he could end them all, but he stuck with Fauci all year and never let up with his National State of Emergency. The rest of Republicans & MAGA (also brainwashed) either turned a blind eye or have NFC what's going on and are too tribal to fight for freedom since it would be against their own guy (Trump).
I thought a martial law was going to take place after the george floyd incident but even that didn't happen either. Trump still helpless during those desperate times.

[Cleverness]

Trump was somewhat forced into the lockdowns. I believe he wanted to do not go the lockdown route but was feeling pressure and knew it would be used against him in the up coming election. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t.

That is only possible if Trump is completely naive to everything going on, but I don't believe that.

His base was clear: fire Fauci, open the country, and end the horseshit.

His response was clear: keep Fauci the entire time, keep the rest of the quacks in charge, keep the natl state of emergency going, keep the trillions flowing, sign the cares act, extend unemployment incentives, etc.. pretty much a Leftist's dream.

[Cleverness]

I thought a martial law was going to take place after the george floyd incident but even that didn't happen either. Trump still helpless during those desperate times.

Yeah but did you see what he tweeted?

(Isn't that how policy works? By tweeting from a basement?)

https://s.france24.com/media/display/95dfd6ec-a42c-11ea-8bc0-005056bff430/w:1280/p:16x9/EN_20200601_180359_180607_CS.jpg

[warriorfan]

That is only possible if Trump is completely naive to everything going on, but I don't believe that.

His base was clear: fire Fauci, open the country, and end the horseshit.

His response was clear: keep Fauci the entire time, keep the rest of the quacks in charge, keep the natl state of emergency going, keep the trillions flowing, sign the cares act, extend unemployment incentives, etc.. pretty much a Leftist's dream.

Yup. It was a tough spot to be in but he ****ed up though.

[Axe]

Yeah but did you see what he tweeted?

(Isn't that how policy works? By tweeting from a basement?)

https://s.france24.com/media/display/95dfd6ec-a42c-11ea-8bc0-005056bff430/w:1280/p:16x9/EN_20200601_180359_180607_CS.jpg
:oldlol:

Only thing missing is to declare blm, democrats and anything against him as terrorist organizations as well.

[Cleverness]

Yup. It was a tough spot to be in but he ****ed up though.

That's what happens when you surround yourself with swamp creatures.

My guess is that he was convinced by his swamp that it would be a huge political win for him to lock us down. The script would go: Trump locked us down, but rescued the world with Operation Warp Speed, saving millions of lives.

Instead he threw his base under the bus (again) and he'll get no credit and all blame.

The end of his legacy will be going out as a vaccine salesman, robbing his base of millions of dollars w/ election fraud conspiracies. L

[Cleverness]

:oldlol:

Only thing missing is to declare blm, democrats and anything against him as terrorist organizations as well.

Trump's DOJ has had White Supremacists as the #1 threat his entire term. His own supporters are getting ****ed in the ass by his own DOJ right now. :oldlol:

They DGAF about Antifa & BLM.

[Axe]

Trump's DOJ has had White Supremacists as the #1 threat his entire term. His own supporters are getting ****ed in the ass by his own DOJ right now. :oldlol:

They DGAF about Antifa & BLM.
Massive big L rt. :yaohappy:

Now that he's on his way out, they will be put to a rest most likely.

[Axe]

Close to zero.

[Jasper]

I hate to agree with CNN, but 5.6 million sounds about right.

It took balls to close down one of the greatest economies of all time, while being called a xenophobe and a racist for banning China. Not many people could have done that under similar circumstances.

Just being called a xenophobe and a racist in it self would have delayed other Presidents for who knows how many weeks. And that delay would had caused that China virus to spread at an unimaginable, exponential level.

People forget, but if you remember back to even March, people thought it was silly to even suspend the NBA season. Posters like Walk on Water got their threads deleted for suggesting such a thing. Yet Trump understood the situation and he took all the criticism, saving millions in the process.

how many months was trump late in closing the borders ??
God what a dumb ass.

[Axe]

how many months was trump late in closing the borders ??
God what a dumb ass.
:roll:

[Cleverness]

Close to zero.

Haha, nice bump, and good guess. :lol


how many months was trump late in closing the borders ??
God what a dumb ass.

Cumulatively, how many Covid-19 infections have 20+ months of travel bans/restrictions prevented so far here in the US?

[BurningHammer]

Cumulatively, how many Covid-19 infections have 20+ months of travel bans/restrictions prevented so far here in the US?

Another throwaway vague question. If you are, or pretend to be, an expert, why don't you answer your own questions? :oldlol:

[Axe]

Another throwaway vague question. If you are, or pretend to be, an expert, why don't you answer your own questions? :oldlol:
:yaohappy:

[Cleverness]

Another throwaway vague question. If you are, or pretend to be, an expert, why don't you answer your own questions? :oldlol:

Lol, it's not vague. In fact, it's very specific.

Cumulatively, how many Covid-19 infections have 20+ months of travel bans/restrictions prevented so far here in the US?

To answer your question, I don't know if there have been, cumulatively, any infections prevented by 20+ months of travel bans/restrictions so far here in the US. That's why I keep asking those who push for these types of restrictions to back up their claims, but they (like you), always disappear when it comes down to making their case.

[Axe]

Below 100k.

[Axe]

Bump. Looks like there's more pessimistic answers to this rather than optimistic ones. :(