Tatum vs Kawhi at aged 22

[Lebron23]

I think Tatum is the better player. And put up better nunbers than Kawhi.

[And1AllDay]

tatum got theiss and kemba
Kiwi got duncan and parker


Tatum > kiwi if they changed teams

[Real Men Wear Green]

Doesn't mean anything. Leonard is one of those unusual guys that grows from roleplayer to superstar. Tatum came into thr league as a scorer.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi destroyed LeBron and won finals mvp at 22. Tatum is 1 loss away from losing to Butler in the ECF.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

The FMVP that dominated prime Bran on both ends H2H minus the garbage time statpadding

Tatum got outplayed by Lowry last round. He just got bailed out by Marcus Smart who was the Celtics MVP that series

[BigKAT]

Kawhi destroyed LeBron and won finals mvp at 22. Tatum is 1 loss away from losing to Butler in the ECF.

You clearly didn't watch that series.

[Spurs m8]

I think Tatum is the better player. And put up better nunbers than Kawhi.

Who gave 22 year old Kawhi a fmvp?

[And1AllDay]

Who gave 22 year old Kawhi a fmvp?

tony parker

Next question lil boi :oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

tony parker

Next question lil boi :oldlol:

The correct answer....the guy you ma$turbate to daily

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

tony parker

Next question lil boi :oldlol:


Some use the 2014 Finals as proof that LeBron had no help. His excuse for losing because of no help would make sense, except for the fact that LeBron did not help his team at all after the series was tied 1-1, he only padded his stats. He was not helping his team win games at all, and was completely outplayed in Games 3-4-5 by Kahwi Leonard.

Games 3-4-5
Lebron scored 51 of his 81 points (63%) being down 15+
Leonard scored 27 of his 71 points (38%) being up 15+
Leonard outscored Lebron 44-30 in non-blowout situations

Leonard 23.7 ppg on 69%
LeBron 27.0 ppg on 55%
(Leonard 14% more efficient)

And again, Lebron stats were heavily padded in garbage time, in non blowout situations Leonard outscored him

Leonard 9.3 rpg
LeBron 7.7 rpg

Leonard 2.0 spg
LeBron 1.7 spg

Leonard 2.0 bpg
LeBron 0.7 bpg

Leonard 2.3 apg with 1.7 TOpg
LeBron 4.7 apg with 3.7 TOpg
Leonard had a slightly better ast:TO ratio

Through games 3-4-5, Leonard scored much more efficiently (and more in non blowout situations) and outrebounded, outstole, and outblocked Lebron with a better ast:TO ratio

Game 3
Lebron had 14 points and 0 TO in first quarter, then 8 points and 7 TOs for the last 3 quarters. LeBron had 22-5-7-5 with 7 TOs on 64%, Wade had 22-4-2-2 with 5 TOs on 67%. But over the last 3 quarters, LeBron had 8 points and 7 TOs to Wade's 20 points and 3 TOs. The Heat cut the lead from 15 to 9 without LeBron, after Wade subbed in for him, from the 5:00 to 1:00 mark of the 3rd quarter, but even with that help LeBron still lost.

Game 4
Lebron had 9 points in first half and the Heat were blown out by 19 at halftime. He padded his stats from there, and he did not score on Leonard in the first half.

Game 5
Lebron had 1 FG in 2nd quarter (2:30 mark) to bring the Heat within 5. Then he did not score again until the Heat were down 21 with 4:40 in the 3rd. LeBron shot 1-6 against Leonard this game.

Leonard clearly outplayed Lebron over the final 3 games, even with Lebron padding his stats, and Lebron failed to score consistently until after his teams were getting blown out. LeBron did not play well in the 2014 Finals after Game 2, he only padded his stats. LeBron's 2014 Finals was a repeat of the 2011 Finals after Game 2, the only differences being that LeBron's teammates disappeared along with him, and LeBron padded his stats to save face. So any notion that LeBron had an "amazing" series, and still lost because of his teammates is false. LeBron failed his team over the Final 3 games, and that's why he lost. He did not contribute offensively or defensively. The Spurs did have great offensive execution in this series, but a lot of that had to do with the poor defensive leadership of LeBron, who got exposed by Kawhi Leonard. Remember, this is the same Spurs team that went 7 games against a top 10 worst defense in the league, the 8-seed Mavericks. They were far from an invincible team.

In those last 3 games, Leonard outrebounded, outblocked, outstole Lebron, scored MUCH more efficiently (14% FG higher than Lebron) and Lebron committed more than twice as many turnovers. In Game 3, LeBron had 14 points in the 1st quarter, then 8 points and 7 turnovers in the last 3 quarters. In Game 4, LeBron had 9 points in the first half, and they were blown out by 19 at that point, from where he padded his stats

Next reach junior

[aj1987]

Next reach junior

That has to be one of the most autistic posts ever. I'm also sure it was posted by Imkobe, the resident dumbass, and he got eviscerated.

From a previous post of mine, replying to Laz:

LeBron 2014

LeBron only played like 6 minutes a game in the 4th Q's and scored only ~3.5 points. Did his scoring in the first 3 Q's when the games were still within ~15 points. However, according to Lazerus, if a player tries to score when a team in trailing by 15 with a quarter and a half of basketball, it's stat padding, because apparently the game is already a blowout.

For instance, in his insane and absolutely retarded rambling, he fails to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron brought the Heat back to within 13 with like 8 minutes to go in the 3rd. That's when others started missing and the Spurs went on a 7-0 run.

Game 1 - LeBron single handedly kept the Heat in the game and the minute he goes out, Miami gets blown out. 2 point game with LeBron on the court. The moment he sits, the Spurs go on a 16-3 run in a span of about four minutes. As I said, without LeBron the Heat got torched by the Spurs.

Game 2 - LeBron plays an incredible game and CB comes through in the Clutch with the late 3. Miami barely win though. Even though Bosh came through in the clutch, dude was terrible (as was Wade) and let Duncan destroy him.

Game 3 - LeBron was terrible in the 4th without question. No excuses. Unlike you, I can admit when a player is terrible, you braindead retard.

Game 5 - So, according to you, LeBron was stat padding when he was trying to score midway through the 3rd with the Heat down 15, but he should’ve scored more with the Heat down 19 going into the 4th? You really do not understand what the term stat padding means, do you? Anyways, TP completely wrecked the Heat in the 4th Q that game. The Heat were never able to get closer than 16 and couldn’t get a stop defensively.

LeBron puts up 28 PPG on 68% TS and the Heat get blown out. Compare that to Chokerlain. Chokerlain was the 7th leading scorer from both teams (5th on his own team) and put up 18 PPG on 50% TS. The Warriors won. Chokerlain was also the 6th leading scorer in the ’72 Finals and the Lakers won easily. The ’69 Finals are absolutely hilarious though. 12 PPG on 48% TS (with teammates averaging 28 PPG, 18 PPG and 15 PPG). See, this is why LeBron is tiers above Chokerlain. Chokerlain was just flat out terrible. LeBron needs to do everything for his team to win.

Lets also not forget that the Spurs were the overwhelming favorites to win the Finals. The Heat regressed offensively and defensively from the previous season and was terrible defensively.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

Nice try

It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2084873-nba-finals-2014-updated-predictions-based-on-vegas-odds-for-heat-vs-spurs

https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nba-finals-odds-spurs-heat-favorite-2014

-125 SA
+105 Miami

Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

-240 Miami
+200 SA

[highwhey]

clearly that guy is a retard ^^^

[aj1987]

Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

Nice try

It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2084873-nba-finals-2014-updated-predictions-based-on-vegas-odds-for-heat-vs-spurs

https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nba-finals-odds-spurs-heat-favorite-2014

-125 SA
+105 Miami

Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

-240 Miami
+200 SA

Is that all you got out of my post? :roll:

[TheGoatest]

Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

Nice try

It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2084873-nba-finals-2014-updated-predictions-based-on-vegas-odds-for-heat-vs-spurs

https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nba-finals-odds-spurs-heat-favorite-2014

-125 SA
+105 Miami

Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

-240 Miami
+200 SA

https://images2.imagebam.com/95/20/84/3c66831355110134.jpg

12-6 in favor of Spurs. "Close to even".

[ArbitraryWater]

Yea but it doesnt mean anything

[Axe]

^"Yea but it doesnt mean anything"

Just like what most of your fellow lbj stans think of you. You simply make them look bad. Pfft.

[ImKobe]

Spurs werent "overwhelming" favorites

Nice try

It was close to even, Spurs slight favorites at best

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2084873-nba-finals-2014-updated-predictions-based-on-vegas-odds-for-heat-vs-spurs

https://www.si.com/nba/2014/06/02/nba-finals-odds-spurs-heat-favorite-2014

-125 SA
+105 Miami

Thats very close to even. It was the closest odds in a Finals in the last 2 decades along with the 08 Finals

Miami was much bigger favorites the season before

-240 Miami
+200 SA

Hammy destroying Lebronsexuals with FACTS and LOGIC

[ArbitraryWater]

^"Yea but it doesnt mean anything"

Just like what most of your fellow lbj stans think of you. You simply make them look bad. Pfft.

Most ppl think of me „yea but it doesnt mean anything“ ?


You continue to make no sense

[Axe]

^Says the dumb asshole who's too retarded to act like a normal human being

[TheCorporation]

So Tony Parker and Tim Duncan let a 22 year old autist teammate with FMVP but somehow this is LeBron's fault? :lol

Keep that same energy if a LeBron teammate wins a FMVP in 2020 then. It will be Bam or Theiss's fault if AD wins okay? :lol Next