Wasn’t LeBron suppose to be done by age 30?

[GrayGoat]

His whole career up till then was full of people saying his game can’t age well. Well well well

[Wally450]

Something about "after losing his athleticism he'd amount to nothing."



Seems those people couldn't be any more wrong.

[And1AllDay]

interesting

so then the guy that relies on his athelte abilities is basicaly the longest goat longevity

so then he does not relies on his athletic abilites

we win again :dancin

[FireDavidKahn]

His GOAT IQ means his game will slowly and gracefully decline instead of a major drop off at any point.

[No Sir]

Instead he ended up aging better than Kobe and MJ:lol

Fine wine indeed
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[And1AllDay]

Instead he ended up aging better than Kobe and MJ:lol

cold hard fax of life :oldlol:

[MaxPlayer]

I actually think it's backwards to say that athletic players age poorly.

If you're a great athlete, you can afford to lose a step and still be fast enough. But if you're an average athlete and you lose a step, you're suddenly too slow to be on the court.

[GrayGoat]

I actually think it's backwards to say that athletic players age poorly.

If you're a great athlete, you can afford to lose a step and still be fast enough. But if you're an average athlete and you lose a step, you're suddenly too slow to be on the court.

To be fair Wade was considered faster than LeBron

[And1AllDay]

I actually think it's backwards to say that athletic players age poorly.

If you're a great athlete, you can afford to lose a step and still be fast enough. But if you're an average athlete and you lose a step, you're suddenly too slow to be on the court.

thats not the point

people said bran relied on his atheltic ability and had no skill and once his ahtletic ability dips his effectivness will dip

but they were wrong

bran has all the skill in iq, leadership, passing, shooting, driving, defense

he has it all

[MaxPlayer]

To be fair Wade was considered faster than LeBron

True but he also got injured and got too bulky.

[Micku]

thats not the point

people said bran relied on his atheltic ability and had no skill and once his ahtletic ability dips his effectivness will dip

but they were wrong

bran has all the skill in iq, leadership, passing, shooting, driving, defense

he has it all

He doesn't really have the shooting. Like he has a very inconsistent jumpshot. In Miami he had the season where he was really good from midrange to the 3pt shot, and then in the playoffs it disappeared. You would want to sag on him. That's why in certain times in crucial moments, it gets frustrating when he can't really put up a shot.

His footwork in the post is also isn't as great. It's too bad because he could do great work. He had some seasons where he was one of the most efficient players in the post, but he doesn't do it as often. And this is without having the best footwork in the game.

But what he lacks in some skills, he makes up for it with having a smart IQ. He knows he can't do a pull up jumper as well as Kawhi or KD. But he doesn't rely on it. He focus on his strengths. That is put his head down, go the basket and get a lay up. And he is probably the best at finishing for a perimeter player that I ever seen. And when on the off change that he doesn't have the shot, he doesn't take it.

Like he isn't as dangerous as KD or MJ or Kobe anything when it comes to defending imo. They have multiple ways to attack you and they were great at almost every part of the half court set. LeBron is more limited, but he is efficient at what he does that it's hard to guard. Like you can look at his shooting stats on the every part of the floor. He hardly take midrange jumpers, and he is very streaky. There are times where he is efficient shooting like 40% or more, and there are times where he is garbage. Like shooting like mid 20%. Sometimes he is like that for the whole playoffs, sometimes he is like that just for a series. He just isn't consistent.

And his off the ball movement isn't as good either, but he is the best passer on the team almost all the time. Although with Rondo on the team, he could go off the ball more if the coach or if he wants to. He could come off of screens to get open or just get into position in the post to do some work.

And his FT shooting too is a weakness.

But despite all of that, he still scores a ton. Usually a person who relies on their athleticism like that will regress by now. Players tend to foul you harder the bigger you are. And if you play in the post, ppl tend to get more physical. That's why Bosh, AD and I think LeBron implied or said why they don't want to do it. Shaq went on record saying he needed rest after getting beat up down there lol. And you just naturally gott'a foul big guys harder cuz they have the strength to toss a shot. So, the fact he is still playing a very similar style like he always have been shows how great his body condition is.

But imo, in general he doesn't have it all. His skillset isn't as good as a Kawhi, Kobe, KD, or a MJ in certain aspects of the game. It definitely shows. But it doesn't matter. His passing, his IQ and his ability to finish at the rim is so good that it covers his weaknesses. He's like a Shaq or Barkley on the perimeter side who never lost his athletic ability haha. He is so big, so strong and so fast that it's hard to guard once he gets room to drive. Shaq said something that instead of trying to do a bunch of jumpers, he worked on his body and made strengths stronger. And it worked out. But sometimes, you gott'a work on your weakness.

But if you want to watch someone to about parts of basketball, LeBron isn't the one I would tell you to watch when it comes to shooting or footwork. Passing and perhaps shot selection sure. Like you practice Kobe and MJ moves with the footwork, ball fakes, shot selection (MJ, not Kobe). But there are things that are just genetic. You probably can't jump as high as MJ to get that much lift on your jumpshot. You probably won't have big as hand as MJ. You probably won't have the body of LeBron to bully your way to the basket. But there are parts of the game that is teachable.

What I'm saying is that study Klay Thompson jumpshot over Lebron. Study MJ, Kawhi, Hakeem, and Kobe footwork over Lebron. But study LeBron's shot selection and emulate the IQ.

[Stanley Kobrick]

he won't keep getting away with this

[TheGoatest]

So many haters were dead certain that he was relying on his athleticism as much as Amare Stoudemire and that he would fade into oblivion after he hit 30. They weren't even hoping that this would happen, they were 100% sure. Like it was a done deal that LeBron would become a role player by 30 and retire by 35.

[FireDavidKahn]

thats not the point

people said bran relied on his atheltic ability and had no skill and once his ahtletic ability dips his effectivness will dip

but they were wrong

bran has all the skill in iq, leadership, passing, shooting, driving, defense

he has it all

A+

People always said LeBron was dominating because of how great of an athlete he was and that once that was gone he was done. The difference is that now his IQ and leadership has increase 100x fold.

[eliteballer]

With or without steroids?

[Micku]

So many haters were dead certain that he was relying on his athleticism as much as Amare Stoudemire and that he would fade into oblivion after he hit 30. They weren't even hoping that this would happen, they were 100% sure. Like it was a done deal that LeBron would become a role player by 30 and retire by 35.

The way he plays, you can see why ppl would think that. You see that even now with guys like Wade and Carmelo. And players in the past.

But LeBron body condition is amazing. He still don't got the skills imo as Kobe or a MJ, but he is such a freak of nature that doesn't matter. Plus his IQ and passing skills is amazing.

[TheGoatest]

With or without steroids?

Especially the ones he's currently getting smuggled into the bubble, right? Someone dug a tunnel right to his hotel room, drug smuggler style.
Not to mention all the Olympic tournaments he played in with daily urine tests.

But if LeBron indeed had taken steroids, then his longevity and ability to avoid injury is all the more impressive considering the fact that steroids increase the risk of injury.

[TheCorporation]

LeConsisent Goat

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[FireDavidKahn]

Especially the ones he's currently getting smuggled into the bubble, right? Someone dug a tunnel right to his hotel room, drug smuggler style.
Not to mention all the Olympic tournaments he played in with daily urine tests.

But if LeBron indeed had taken steroids, then his longevity and ability to avoid injury is all the more impressive considering the fact that steroids increase the risk of injury.

DOn't forget that roids apparently only work on LeBron. Useless for everyone else.

[MaxPlayer]

DOn't forget that roids apparently only work on LeBron. Useless for everyone else.

Goat body chemistry confirmed.

[Shogon]

Well, he's still well above average NBA athleticism... Jordan was still fairly athletic at 40 years old so it'll be interesting to see when LeBron's physical decline demonstrably impacts his game in a very negative fashion.

Kobe had to retire because his athleticism went... it wasn't the skills. He still had those. But even your skills get impacted by athletic decline at some point because you can't pull off those same moves.

Athleticism matters so damn much at this level for basically every position in today's league.

LeBron is what? 35? He's going to be 36 in 3 months... and at this rate, it looks like he will perhaps still be decent at 40, even if a shell of his former self. Once he can no longer get to the basket, even with screens, you will see his overall on court ability nosedive because teams will finally be able to stop basically everything he does except pass. When does that happen? I don't know. But it doesn't appear to be next year. Maybe in 2022, guess we will see.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

The Cavs obviously should have made that trade to get Kevin Love, but it is funny looking back. At the time many made the argument that Lebron only had a few good years left so they needed Love who would be ready to go compared to Wiggins who would take a few years to become a star. (2014 belief that he would)

Now 6 years later he is still the best in the league.