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Lebron23
09-29-2020, 02:35 PM
I got the Heat in 5. Miami have 4 players who averaged 19 or more points per game.. Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton only averaged 10 ppg and 9.7 ppg in the nba finals.

Gudo
09-29-2020, 02:40 PM
I got the Heat in 5. Miami have 4 players who averaged 19 or more points per game.. Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton only averaged 10 ppg and 9.7 ppg in the nba finals.

So you’re basing it completely on statsheets?

Lebron23
09-29-2020, 02:41 PM
So you’re basing it completely on statsheets?

Heat are also a much better 3 points shooting team. If they play in a best of 7 series Miami would beat them in today's current nba unless Jeff Hornacek started to attempt several 3 pointers in this series.

Micku
09-29-2020, 04:14 PM
I got the Heat in 5. Miami have 4 players who averaged 19 or more points per game.. Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton only averaged 10 ppg and 9.7 ppg in the nba finals.

I wouldn't underestimate the Jazz. They swept the Lakers with Shaq, Kobe, Eddie Jones, and Nick Van Exel. With Fox, Fisher, Horry and Campbell. That team was loaded with talent.

But the style of play and rules are different from back then than it is today. Tougher to score. If they were to play today, the ppg would be higher. The average ppg was like 95 with the teams. And in the playoffs it was less than that. Like 91. And the pacing was crazy slow. Like the slowest pace team today is the still higher than the highest pace team in 98, which was the Lakers.

NBAGOAT
09-29-2020, 04:31 PM
You are mostly awful with these comparisons. Not every team lebron has faced is better than every team Jordan has faced though some 90s teams get overrated.

Looking at raw stats says nothing. The lakers this year only have two guys who two guys who routinely score over 10ppg too yet are favored clearly over Miami. By any measure like srs or mov, the jazz dominate the heat

Gudo
09-29-2020, 04:39 PM
Players play based on what the rules allow during their time. I would agree with micku, just different eras so it’s not accurate to base the comparison solely on the averages or who you think shoots better threes.

I dont even know how the jazz would play in the current open shooting kind of game. The jazz were extremely good at controlling the pace and setting plays. They’re not a fluke. As micku said, they beat good teams to make it to the finals. And being able to sweep the lakers with a prime shaq, eddie jones, van exel, etc is testament to how good they were.

If they were to play on modern rules, if given the time to adjust to modern gameplay, I just can’t say how exaclty they would adjust. Tha jazz had decent range too. Malone, foster could shoot from distance too.

light
09-29-2020, 06:27 PM
I got the Heat in 5. Miami have 4 players who averaged 19 or more points per game.. Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton only averaged 10 ppg and 9.7 ppg in the nba finals.

They would not be able to stop Malone and Stockton.

Bam would curl up into the fetal position upon seeing the diameter of Malone's arms.

Wally450
09-29-2020, 06:48 PM
You are mostly awful with these comparisons. Not every team lebron has faced is better than every team Jordan has faced though some 90s teams get overrated.

Looking at raw stats says nothing. The lakers this year only have two guys who two guys who routinely score over 10ppg too yet are favored clearly over Miami. By any measure like srs or mov, the jazz dominate the heat

Its to support his agenda.

Lebron23
09-29-2020, 07:25 PM
They would not be able to stop Malone and Stockton.

Bam would curl up into the fetal position upon seeing the diameter of Malone's arms.

Malone and Stockton were playoffs choker. They lost to Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullin in the first round of the playoffs despite having home court advantage.

NBAGOAT
09-29-2020, 07:27 PM
Malone and Stockton were playoffs choker. They lost to Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullin in the first round of the playoffs despite having home court advantage.

and jimmy butler couldnt even make the conference finals with embiid, simmons, harris, redick

Lebron23
09-29-2020, 07:27 PM
Mitch Richmond and Chris Mullin swept them because they failed to defend the perimeter.

Lebron23
09-29-2020, 07:28 PM
and jimmy butler couldnt even make the conference finals with embiid, simmons, harris, redick

Erik spoloestra is better than brett brown. And brown hated Jimmy Butler. You stupid son of a B1tch. Nostalgia doesn't cloud my judgements.

Vino24
09-29-2020, 07:30 PM
Herro would shit on the Jazz

Gohan
09-29-2020, 11:28 PM
Heat are also a much better 3 points shooting team. If they play in a best of 7 series Miami would beat them in today's current nba unless Jeff Hornacek started to attempt several 3 pointers in this series.

Just like heat has 3 pointers because of the evolution of the game lakers have 3s because of the same thing. Your analysis is not fair to the Jazz. You’re comparing something that every team in the 2020s improved on. In other words... you’re a horrible poster all you care is that lebron gets more credit for something than he deserves

kawhileonard2
09-29-2020, 11:33 PM
1998 Jazz beat the Rockets with Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler and then Duncan/Robinson and then Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel.

Lebron only beat a 36 year old Duncan due to having 3 other hall of fame players on his squad with Ray Allen hitting the biggest shot. Next year got blown off the floor with an older Duncan.

kawhileonard2
09-29-2020, 11:34 PM
Malone and Stockton were playoffs choker. They lost to Mitch Richmond, and Chris Mullin in the first round of the playoffs despite having home court advantage.

Lebron lost to Dwight Howard with HCA and now has him on his team. The next year he lost with HCA to Rondo and has him on his team. :oldlol:

NBAGOAT
09-29-2020, 11:36 PM
Erik spoloestra is better than brett brown. And brown hated Jimmy Butler. You stupid son of a B1tch. Nostalgia doesn't cloud my judgements.

I’m the opposite of nostalgia.. Brett may have not liked jimmy but still let him dominate the ball. Jerry Sloan is now as bad as Brett brown lol? And yea malones an underperformer but he’s a much better player than butler who’s only a top 10 lvl player. No amount of recency bias can

You got some of the worst lebron and recency bias for a non troll and I like lebron. Also stop being childish with the insults to anyone who disagrees

Bronbron23
09-30-2020, 05:46 AM
I got the Heat in 5. Miami have 4 players who averaged 19 or more points per game.. Jeff Hornacek and John Stockton only averaged 10 ppg and 9.7 ppg in the nba finals.

Look at the differences in era's dude. Who knows how many gaurds back then woukd flourish now with these rules and style of play.