2020 NBA Finals MVP discussion thread

[Young X]

Use this to keep track of each player's performance and to discuss who deserves the award at the particular moment, who is in the lead, etc.

[imdaman99]

For the first 5 mins, I got Bam.

But something tells me he will need to do more.

[imdaman99]

For the first 6 mins, I got Jimmy Buckets.

[NBAGOAT]

ad and butler in qtr 1. kcp and crowder have been pretty great but ofc wont matter in a fmvp race

[NBAGOAT]

ad then buter comfortably at half. bron's been fine but 3rd

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

AD finna run away with it

best player on the floor on BOTH ends

[TheGoatest]

Easily LeBron so far.
On his pace for a finals triple-double, something only two players have done more than twice in their entire career:

https://images2.imagebam.com/21/11/aa/4fc9301355441825.png

[Shooter]

Easily LeBron so far.
On his pace for a finals triple-double, something only two players have done more than twice in their entire career:

https://images2.imagebam.com/21/11/aa/4fc9301355441825.png

Another #Unbreakable

LeBron is unbreakable.

[NBAGOAT]

ad after the 3rd pretty clearly. bron's been good but it's not too debatable right now

[StrongLurk]

It's gonna be AD if the Lakers win.

[Lebron23]

Lebron with a near triple double

[francesco totti]

AD scored 9 more points. But Lebron got total of 22 rebounds/assist vs AD 14.

[Poetry]

Use this to keep track of each player's performance and to discuss who deserves the award at the particular moment, who is in the lead, etc.

Since like 1980, the Finals MVP has almost always gone to the player with the highest Game Score on the winning team.

[TheGoatest]

Davis has been good, but it's hands down LeBron by far and it's not even remotely kind-of close.
LeBron deserves an extra point for calling a time-out and not going for his 10th assist, which would've given him a triple-double.
Not to mention all the assists to the free-throw line he had tonight, which don't show up on the box score. Especially the ones Davis refused to dunk and intentionally went for a missed layup in order to get 2 points off free throws and make sure that LeBron doesn't get an assist on the box score.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Ad very slight edge in game 1. LeBron arguably had a better pure statline, by the end of it when Voters are just looking at series averages and picking someone, he could very easily get it. Also, let's be clear: LeBron is the best player on the team. Ad is arguably top 5, but LeBron is better.

[Im Still Ballin]

You see, LeBron's smart. He knows it's a numbers game, which is why he got those extra buckets, rebounds and assists tonight.

He knows that, if he can win the rebounds and assists averages... He's in with a hell of a chance.

He'll need a big scoring game or two... To get things closer to level.

[Run DLC]

LeBron is going to accumulate these numbers. Miami is going to game plan better for AD in game 2. LeBron will have a big 10+ assists game to average a triple double in this series

[TheGoatest]

Miami is going to game plan better for AD in game 2.

Yeah, leaving him wide open for half a dozen open 2 hand dunks while they double teamed LeBron didn't seem to do the trick tonight.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Honestly think it'll be a toss up between LB and AD. Expecting a 30/8 series from AD, and like 27/10/10 from LeBron

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Yeah, leaving him wide open for half a dozen open 2 hand dunks while they double teamed LeBron didn't seem to do the trick tonight.

Caruso had a layup line the couple of times they tried to trap LeBron on that 3-1 (i guess now it's a 1-2, or 4-1, idk) screen he loves. I don't see that working long term.

[TheGoatest]

Honestly think it'll be a toss up between LB and AD. Expecting a 30/8 series from AD, and like 27/10/10 from LeBron

If this happens, that's a "toss up" to you?

[ELITEpower23]

You see, LeBron's smart. He knows it's a numbers game, which is why he got those extra buckets, rebounds and assists tonight.

He knows that, if he can win the rebounds and assists averages... He's in with a hell of a chance.

He'll need a big scoring game or two... To get things closer to level.

Anthony Davis has become less active on the glass and LeBron James has been keeping up the rebounding pace. AD will outscore LeBron this series but with LeBron out rebounding and assisting Davis while orchestrating a full offensive attack and probably scoring only 5 ppg less for the series I can see LeBron winning the FMVP. Teams can adjust for Davis and I'm sure Coach Spo will do this for game 2 but you cannot adjust for LeBron. He is a mismatch nightmare everywhere and you just have to accept his greatness. It's one of his biggest strengths, he is a player that you cannot adjust against. He will always counter you.

[TheGoatest]

As the series progresses and the Lakers get closer to the championship, I can definitely see the salty Spoelstra and especially the salty Riley shifting their strategy from trying to make the Heat beat the Lakers to preventing LeBron from getting the Finals MVP and trying to make sure AD gets it. They would definitely consider an AD Finals MVP a partial victory. Riley would, believe me.

[Lebron23]

Co finals MVP

[HALLandOATES]

Idc what anyone says ,Lebron has to be a point or 2 within A.D or he isn’t getting it ...while almost getting a trip. Like someone else already pointed out the voters care MOST about PPG

[AlternativeAcc.]

Co finals MVP

LeBron and his piece?

:oldlol: I like that

[Gray GOAT]

LeBron will get some votes purely because they screwed him over earlier in the regular season MVP. He has the play, he has the stats, he has the narrative. 4/4 is coming.

[Young X]

So who was officially better in game 1, Lebron or AD? This needs to be settled right now!

[Doranku]

So who was officially better in game 1, Lebron or AD? This needs to be settled right now!

Pretty easily AD.

[NBAGOAT]

ad was better. half the 3rd+4th qtr didnt matter at all either. lebron's defense has low key been better during the playoffs but ad had the advantage there game 1 too.

[NBAGOAT]

small advantage to bron after 1st qtr since hes been setting up a bunch of layups

[Young X]

I'm sorry, but Lebron James and Anthony Davis should not be playing together on the same team.

[NBAGOAT]

ad's back in the lead now for sure after making miami look like a high school team out there. Going be hard for bron to catch him at this point

[NBAGOAT]

i'll post the pipm numers after every game to see how it updates for ad and bron and since it gets lost in the game thread. not great since playoffs are a small sample size but not useless either. https://twitter.com/JacobEGoldstein/status/1311678572013125635/photo/1. danny green's still underrated but likely sample size issues too since most of his impact is offense somehow

[AlternativeAcc.]

I'm sorry, but Lebron James and Anthony Davis should not be playing together on the same team.

Lol

But it was cool for him to face 4 allstars in the finals for multiple years

35 yo Bron can't play with a career loser, it's just not fair! :cry:

[ScottieQuitting]

Lol

But it was cool for him to face 4 allstars in the finals for multiple years

35 yo Bron can't play with a career loser, it's just not fair! :cry:
Bron had two next to him. 3 vs 4, best player on the floor wins basketball games with near equal levels of talent.

[Lebron23]

Lebron James

[NBAGOAT]

i give slight advantage to bron for game 2 though wouldnt argue the other way. pretty mistake free passing and ad didnt do that mch in the 4th. Overall this still ad clearly

[lilteapot]

For Game 2 it actually seemed like Lebron was the most important player down the stretch despite AD's monster game.

[TheGoatest]

For Game 2 it actually seemed like Lebron was the most important player down the stretch despite AD's monster game.

LeBron was better than AD in the 1st, 2nd and 4th quarters.
They're both playing phenomenally though. It's really a shame that one of them will end up without the Finals MVP.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Huge edge for LeBron heading to game 3

MVP of both games

[LoneyROY7]

This will be the best Finals MVP duel between two teammates you'll probably see.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

AD although I wouldn't mind seeing a CO-MVP. They're both FEASTING right now.

[AirTupac]

What a crazy and amazing duel between AD and LeBron.

AD was Shaq-like in the 3rd. Then LeBron came in the 4th and was absolutely amazing. 33-9-9 with 0 turnovers?


This isn't Heat vs Lakers. Heat are trash. This is AD vs LeBron and its fvcking beautiful. GO LAKERS!!!!!!

[AlternativeAcc.]

What a crazy and amazing duel between AD and LeBron.

AD was Shaq-like in the 3rd. Then LeBron came in the 4th and was absolutely amazing. 33-9-9 with 0 turnovers?


This isn't Heat vs Lakers. Heat are trash. This is AD vs LeBron and its fvcking beautiful. GO LAKERS!!!!!!

Too bad the Pelicans are on the couch

Maybe next decade champ

[TheGoatest]

AD although I wouldn't mind seeing a CO-MVP. They're both FEASTING right now.

It can't be a co-Finals MVP. There are 11 voters/votes.

[AirTupac]

Too bad the Pelicans are on the couch

Maybe next decade champ

Cringe af. We're the best. You aint with us.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Cringe af. We're the best. You aint with us.
Yes, I'm not with the Pelicans

Enjoy the Brandon Ingraham era.

I'll enjoy this Lakers championship

[HALLandOATES]

So far

Lebron 29/11/9
AD 33/12

Very slight edge to A.D. Lebron needs to be within a point or 2 from AD to win it I think. The guy that gets the most points almost always gets it

[Shogon]

All I know is I hope for their sake that this award doesn't come between them. I'm not so sure.

I think LeBron needs to gun for this one and then "pass the keys", so to speak, to AD. Maybe tell AD next year that AD needs to win league MVP and Finals MVP. Make that his challenge for AD.

LeBron will still be the brain on the team but AD needs to be the clear lead producer going forward for chemistry's sake. I know that AD has been rather humble all year but there's no way these guys remain friendly like they are now for multiple years with LeBron getting most of the credit.

Ego and pride are a hell of a thing, and AD is hitting his peak while LeBron is clearly past his peak. It's time. LeBron needs to start to let go.

[red1]

leGOAT and AD neck in neck. hard to say who has the lead now. :)


Too bad the Pelicans are on the couch

Maybe next decade champ

:oldlol:

[Young X]

33/9/9 with no turnovers is nuts.

[Im Still Ballin]

All I know is I hope for their sake that this award doesn't come between them. I'm not so sure.

I think LeBron needs to gun for this one and then "pass the keys", so to speak, to AD. LeBron will still be the brain on the team but AD needs to be the clear lead producer going forward for chemistry's sake. I know that AD has been rather humble all year but there's no way these guys remain friendly like they are now for multiple years with LeBron getting most of the credit.

He just needs one more FMVP to get 4 and separate himself from the pack (Shaq, Duncan, Magic...)

That'll solidify him as 2nd all time.

[NBAGOAT]

All I know is I hope for their sake that this award doesn't come between them. I'm not so sure.

I think LeBron needs to gun for this one and then "pass the keys", so to speak, to AD. Maybe tell AD next year that AD needs to win league MVP and Finals MVP. Make that his challenge for AD.

LeBron will still be the brain on the team but AD needs to be the clear lead producer going forward for chemistry's sake. I know that AD has been rather humble all year but there's no way these guys remain friendly like they are now for multiple years with LeBron getting most of the credit.

Ego and pride are a hell of a thing, and AD is hitting his peak while LeBron is clearly past his peak. It's time.

they seem to be doing really well right now but I agree. good thing for their pecking order is even for lebron age will be a factor

[Poetry]

Game Score (for Game 1)
AD: 31.8
LBJ: 24.7

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2020-nba-finals-heat-vs-lakers.html

[TheGoatest]

33/9/9 with no turnovers is nuts.

He has 18 assists and 2 turnovers so far in the finals. That's a 9-1 assist to turnover ratio so far. I'm not sure what the record is for a finals series. Magic had a really impressive 6-1 ratio in the 1987 finals. To put that in perspective, the highest ever assist to turnover ratio over an entire regular season was I believe Muggsy Bogues in 1989-90 with 5.93.

We're only at best halfway through the series and one 4-5 turnover game could really ruin LeBron's ratio though.

[AirTupac]

Feels good to be a champion once again. Jeanie is the best owner.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Gotta give it to LBJ so far but AD still has a chance

[AussieSteve]

For what its worth I think it's a coin toss so far. LeBron has been more important, that's for certain. But AD has scored more and has been so efficient. It will come down to voters' personal preferences I feel.

My vote would go to LeBron, because as good as AD has been, a really high proportion of his points have been created for him, and he's done little in the way of creating points for others. Whereas LeBron has obviously created plenty of points for others in addition to those that he's scored himself. AD has finished the most plays, but LeBron has created the most.

[Lebron23]

It won't surprise me if lebron scores 40 points in game 3.

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron has to win this one and I think the voters will feel the same.

He already got hard done by by the RS MVP. And they know a LeBron FMVP will make their job the most interesting and give them the most to talk about.

Also, he has been slightly better just because of his game controlling/playmaking/assists edge and crazy TO ratio, playing superior defenders.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bron had two next to him. 3 vs 4, best player on the floor wins basketball games with near equal levels of talent.

But the talent levels weren‘t near equal, and in 2018 he barely had one next to him.

Why are you lying?

[BigTicket]

If the voting was held after game 2, AD should win it. It's close though, could still go either way depending on the rest of the series.

[TheGoatest]

LeBron has to win this one and I think the voters will feel the same.

He already got hard done by by the RS MVP.

Yeah, I wish that there was a defensive player of the finals award so that both LeBron and AD could get reimbursed for the awards they were robbed by the Greek Fraud.
But since there is only Finals MVP, then it has to be LeBron.

[coin24]

Should go to Davis, runner up dwert or rondo

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Probably about a tie at this point. Purely statistically, both are putting up all-time great finals performances through 2.

[TheGoatest]

Should go to Davis, runner up dwert or rondo

Your trolling would be more effective if it was at least somewhat realistic. Should've taken the "They're both playing great, but AD deserves it more" route that more subtle trolls in this thread have taken.

[Turbo Slayer]

AD BPM for the Finals: 10.7

LeBron BPM for the Finals: 12

AD has a higher GmSc than LeBron. However GmSc overrates scoring and particularly volume shots. I trust BPM a bit more.

LeBron has lower turnovers than AD.

However I can see the case for AD too.

GmSc, more PPG, and more efficiency overall.

Also the Lakers has been doing great with LeBron off the bench this Finals and postseason (Huge difference from the 2015-18 Cavs and Heatles). So basically it's a tie right now.

Take it as you wish here.

[Turbo Slayer]

AD BPM for the Finals: 10.7

LeBron BPM for the Finals: 12

AD has a higher GmSc than LeBron. However GmSc overrates scoring and particularly volume shots. I trust BPM a bit more.

LeBron has lower turnovers than AD.

However I can see the case for AD too.

GmSc, more PPG, and more efficiency overall.

Also the Lakers has been doing great with LeBron off the bench this Finals and postseason (Huge difference from the 2015-18 Cavs and Heatles). So basically it's a tie right now.

Take it as you wish here. I mean "on the bench this Finals and postseason". My bad. Lol.

[HALLandOATES]

only way they (ad,James) can go is down and one average game will lose you the mvp these finals . Someone else said it best, lebron is the king of statpadding .. if he cared more in the regular season he could average a triple double

[NBAGOAT]

well lebron made up the gap with one qtr. ad should catch up

[tanibanana]

AD must put up crazy performance 2nd half this game-3 or else he is about to lose that FMVP to LBJ.

But wait, Jimmy might steal from both.. we'll never know until its over.

[TheGoatest]

well lebron expanded up the gap with one qtr. ad should catch up

Fixed.

[AussieSteve]

Through 2.5 games

LBJ leading AD in... points, rebounds, assists, steals, +/-

AD leading LBJ in... turnovers

[ELITEpower23]

There is no more discussion now, Davis has disappeared after facing tougher defensive set ups. If the Lakers can win this series and I do believe they can and will then it goes to LeBron and If Miami wins it somehow then it goes to Butler. That's the end of that discussion, time to talk about the trade rumors for 2021 now.

[NBAGOAT]

Ad had a nice 3rd but this is bron now. Ad definitely still has a chance

[Shooter]

Mr. 4th quarter

SCORED or ASSISTED on all Laker's 11 points :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Triple double for LeBron, leading scorer again

Davis with that 15/4 line (Kobe 2000 shit)


It's a wrap

Lakers in 5 and LeBron with an easy 4th FMVP

:banana:

[NBAGOAT]

Butlers in the race for sure. My goodness what a game. I’m just hoping bam plays game 4. With that and hot shooting there’s a chance

[RRR3]

AD gagged it away today. Tissue soft.

[AlternativeAcc.]

AD gagged it away today. Tissue soft.

I called it... he pulled a curry

He's a beta and he's not built for this.


:cheers:

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Tonight simply bolstered AD's reason to be the FMVP. He doesn't play well, and the Lakers lose. Leturnover / Letravel / Le-missed-three just can't get it done.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Tonight simply bolstered AD's reason to be the FMVP. He doesn't play well, and the Lakers lose. Leturnover / Letravel / Le-missed-three just can't get it done.

Shades of Nuggets game 2. Bran was turning it over and LeBricking it in the 4th

but then......

https://i.redd.it/qkdsw4hiffo51.png

only finna go as far as AD takes them

[AlternativeAcc.]

Tonight simply bolstered AD's reason to be the FMVP. He doesn't play well, and the Lakers lose. Leturnover / Letravel / Le-missed-three just can't get it done.

Thats not how it works

You don't shit the bed and say "well if I played well we might've won"

High level autism little guy, yikes

[Lebron23]

Lebron, AD, or Butler

[tanibanana]

The series is 2-1, we are talking way too much of LeBron and Davis, but actually both of them are 2nd and 3rd in the race respectively. Its Jimmy as of the moment, annd should it end in game 7 and Lakers winning it, I don't mind Jimmy winning it like a Jerry West narrative.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron, AD, or Butler

One of these 3 will get it.

[francesco totti]

Lebron

83 points
32 rebounds
26 assists
3 blocks
2 steals
10 turnovers


ANTHONY Davis

81 points
28 rebounds
9 assists
3 blocks
3 steals
9 turnovers


The assists/playmaking of Lebron is difference why he is FMVP. Everything else is close .

[Shooter]

Unless Bron puts ups a 15-5-3 with 5 turnovers and -26 then its a FMVP wrap for LeBron

[francesco totti]

Lebron

111 points
44 rebounds
34 assists
3 blocks
3 steals
16 turnovers


ANTHONY Davis

103 points
37 rebounds
13 assists
7 blocks
4 steals
11 turnovers


Lebron creating a good gap.

[Gougou]

Davis more better defensively and less turnover.

If he takes over game 5, scores like 40+ then maybe he wins.

[TheGoatest]

:roll: @ Davis being FMVP. What's he going to be? The first Finals MVP to win the award over a teammate who averaged more points, more rebounds AND more assists than him over the finals? :roll:

[Carbine]

Davis defensive impact in this game and solid offensive contribution is why I gave him a slight edge over LeBrons better box score numbers.

This was probably the best defensive impact game for Davis of the playoffs.

[Basketball IQ]

Davis defensive impact in this game and solid offensive contribution is why I gave him a slight edge over LeBrons better box score numbers.

This was probably the best defensive impact game for Davis of the playoffs.

You must not know basketball.

[TheGoatest]

Davis defensive impact in this game and solid offensive contribution is why I gave him a slight edge over LeBrons better box score numbers.

This was probably the best defensive impact game for Davis of the playoffs.

He has been great defensively tonight. He was great defensively in game 1. In games 2 and 3 he was crap.
1.75 blocks and 1.0 steals per game this series won't be enough to swing the FMVP away from LeBron.

[Noyze]

Davis more better defensively and less turnover.

If he takes over game 5, scores like 40+ then maybe he wins.

Agreed, he'd have to score 40. If Jimmy Bucket's hadn't had a historic performance the story would be about AD's very poor performance in game 3. He only took 9 shots. The dude wasn't aggressive at all and he was a -27 on the floor. That's one of the worst in his career. It's why he can't be you're number 1, he played like a dude up 2-0. He didn't want it. He had a solid bounce back game tonight, big plays.

[1987_Lakers]

Davis had a great defensive game tonight, but LeBron's aggressiveness, scoring and creating for others is the main reason why the Lakers won tonight. AD seemed to disappear for long stretches in that 2nd half, granted... the reason for that was because LeBron was in attack mode at that point.

I will say Vogel deserves credit for how they played Butler tonight, putting AD and daring him to shoot seemed to throw him off rhythm, Butler is not a great shooter and AD has tremendous length, with the space they were giving Butler, it didn't allow him to drive to the rim effectively.

[lilteapot]

AD is Finals MVP for sure. Had a bad Game 3 but that's arguably only bc of foul trouble not because the Heat were able to contain him necessarily. Lebron has done his thing and was HUGE in that 3rd quarter, making those threes was so important. but AD closed the deal and guarded the Heat's best player the whole game. It ain't close

[MaxPlayer]

AD is Finals MVP for sure. Had a bad Game 3 but that's arguably only bc of foul trouble not because the Heat were able to contain him necessarily. Lebron has done his thing and was HUGE in that 3rd quarter, making those threes was so important. but AD closed the deal and guarded the Heat's best player the whole game. It ain't close

Yes I'm certain the voters will see things the same way




https://media.giphy.com/media/yb5ZUDwabxOCs/giphy.gif

[And1AllDay]

Davis more better defensively and less turnover.

If he takes over game 5, scores like 40+ then maybe he wins.

bruh turnovers what? ad is terrrible at handling the ball lookat his assist to turnover ratios

bran has like a 2 to 1 ratio

ad is like 1 to 1 :oldlol: he almost has as many turnovers to assists its liek 13 to 11, bran is like 34 to 16 (double ast to to)

[NBAGOAT]

i couldnt even see most of the game tonight but seems like fmvp is still lebron. game 1-ad, game 2- lebron game 3-lebron game 4-ad. Order of gap goes game 3, game 1, game 2, game 4 from what I see people saying. game 3 even though it was a poor game but just too bad for ad.

[And1AllDay]

AD is Finals MVP for sure. Had a bad Game 3 but that's arguably only bc of foul trouble not because the Heat were able to contain him necessarily. Lebron has done his thing and was HUGE in that 3rd quarter, making those threes was so important. but AD closed the deal and guarded the Heat's best player the whole game. It ain't close

bran leading in

pts, rebs, asst

retart above: lets vote ad

https://i.redd.it/j21wbirux8521.gif

[k0kakw0rld]

AD is Finals MVP for sure. Had a bad Game 3 but that's arguably only bc of foul trouble not because the Heat were able to contain him necessarily. Lebron has done his thing and was HUGE in that 3rd quarter, making those threes was so important. but AD closed the deal and guarded the Heat's best player the whole game. It ain't close
You are out of your mind.

If Steph never won a FMVP because he had one or two bad games during the Finals. Then, what makes you think they will give to him over LeBron? :facepalm

Kids!

[Kblaze8855]

AD is Finals MVP for sure. Had a bad Game 3 but that's arguably only bc of foul trouble not because the Heat were able to contain him necessarily. Lebron has done his thing and was HUGE in that 3rd quarter, making those threes was so important. but AD closed the deal and guarded the Heat's best player the whole game. It ain't close

I doubt Anthony Davis would even get a vote if they had to do it right now. Lebron would win and Jimmy Butler might steal one or two. Lebron is never gonna lead a team in scoring, rebounds, and assists and not win mvp. If Davis has a 46 point game 5 ok. Now?


It would be nearly unanimous for Lebron.

[TheGoatest]

If the Heat play to win, then there is no way AD has a shot at Finals MVP.
However, like I said when the series started: Do NOT underestimate how salty Spoelstra and especially Pat Riley are at LeBron and the immense success he had after leaving the Heat because Riley failed to improve the roster for the 2013-14 season.
They very well might've made their peace with the fact that this series is unwinnable for the Heat and now their only objective might be to prevent LeBron from winning the Finals MVP. I expect a lot of wide open, uncontested 2-hand dunks by AD in game 5, like we've seen in games 1 and 2. LeBron will have to fight through this conspiracy to undermine his greatness, but I still expect him to be the Finals MVP in the end.

[ArbitraryWater]

i couldnt even see most of the game tonight but seems like fmvp is still lebron. game 1-ad, game 2- lebron game 3-lebron game 4-ad. Order of gap goes game 3, game 1, game 2, game 4 from what I see people saying. game 3 even though it was a poor game but just too bad for ad.

game 4 ad? wut?! lol

[ArbitraryWater]

I doubt Anthony Davis would even get a vote if they had to do it right now. Lebron would win and Jimmy Butler might steal one or two. Lebron is never gonna lead a team in scoring, rebounds, and assists and not win mvp. If Davis has a 46 point game 5 ok. Now?


It would be nearly unanimous for Lebron.

jimmy buttler will never in a million yrs get a vote lol

a losing team player never gets a vote unless they do smthing historic (15 bron)

[light]

LeBron is averaging 27.8 points per game and 23.5 assist points per game. Davis is averaging 25.8 points per game and 9.0 assist points per game.

That means LeBron is averaging 51.3 points per game and 11.0 rebounds while Davis is averaging 34.8 points per game and 9.2 rebounds.

That's a huge difference.

LeBron James is your 2020 Finals MVP.

[ImKobe]

LeBron is averaging 27.8 points per game and 23.5 assist points per game. Davis is averaging 25.8 points per game and 9.0 assist points per game.

That means LeBron is averaging 51.3 points per game and 11.0 rebounds while Davis is averaging 34.8 points per game and 9.2 rebounds.

That's a huge difference.

LeBron James is your 2020 Finals MVP.

Lebron's also less effective as a scorer and turns the ball over more, those things have to be taken into account. Davis is also the better rebounder, the rpg average is kind of misleading because Davis dominates the offensive glass and he lets Lebron have a bunch of defensive boards to get out in transition quicker, plus he's guarding Jimmy Butler on the perimeter a lot so he gets less opportunities. Also, assisting doesn't = scoring. Davis has the better ORTG/DRTG numbers. He also dominates the +/- numbers in their 3 wins

Game 1 - AD +23 LBJ +10
Game 2 - AD +10 LBJ +7
Game 4 - AD +17 LBJ -2

That's +50 for AD vs +15 for Lebron in the 3 wins.

[RRR3]

Lebron's also less effective as a scorer and turns the ball over more, those things have to be taken into account. Davis is also the better rebounder, the rpg average is kind of misleading because Davis dominates the offensive glass and he lets Lebron have a bunch of defensive boards to get out in transition quicker, plus he's guarding Jimmy Butler on the perimeter a lot so he gets less opportunities. Also, assisting doesn't = scoring. Davis has the better ORTG/DRTG numbers. He also dominates the +/- numbers in their 3 wins

Game 1 - AD +23 LBJ +10
Game 2 - AD +10 LBJ +7
Game 4 - AD +17 LBJ -2

That's +50 for AD vs +15 for Lebron in the 3 wins.
LeBron dominated AD in +/- all year and you still claimed AD was better :roll:

TYPING THROUGH THE TEARS

I look forward to your massive meltdown when LeBron wins his 4th FMVP

[ImKobe]

LeBron dominated AD in +/- all year and you still claimed AD was better :roll:

TYPING THROUGH THE TEARS

I look forward to your massive meltdown when LeBron wins his 4th FMVP

What do you mean? I'm using the Lebronsexual logic to beat them at their own game. AD dominates the +/- in the 3 wins and is far more efficient as a scorer and is the best defensive player on the team, there's no question which player is better. AD's the one getting doubled while the Heat live with Lebron driving the ball against Herro and Robinson.

[AlternativeAcc.]

LeBron dominated AD in +/- all year and you still claimed AD was better :roll:

TYPING THROUGH THE TEARS

I look forward to your massive meltdown when LeBron wins his 4th FMVP

Rat poison

[J Shuttlesworth]

LeBron dominated AD in +/- all year and you still claimed AD was better :roll:

TYPING THROUGH THE TEARS

I look forward to your massive meltdown when LeBron wins his 4th FMVP

Oof gotem

[light]

Odds for Finals MVP from BetMGM:

LeBron 1/5
Davis 13/5
Butler 12/1

LeBron -125
Davis +260
Butler +330

Bron is the clear favorite.

[RRR3]

LeBron always beasts in close out games. I can’t see him losing this. It might be his last chance at a ring as the best player since AD will inevitably surpass him as he ages.

[Doranku]

Sadly to say Bran is the FMVP as of now. Can't really see how AD can make up the distance before the series ends.

[8Ball]

As a LeBron stan, we are happy with giving AD next years finals MVP while we take chip #5.

And in 2022 finals we will give Giannis the finals MVP.

LeGenerous.

[tanibanana]

Game-1: Davis, James, Butler
Game-2: Davis, James, Butler
Game-3: Butler, James, Davis
Game-4: James, Davis, Butler

AD can still win it.

[Manny98]

Imagine using +/- as your main argument for why a player should win finals MVP :oldlol:

[Young X]

Question, what if next game Lebron has 20 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists on 6-17 shooting or something like that and AD has 33 points, 12 boards, 4 blocks on 13-20 shooting.

Who wins FMVP then?

[NBAGOAT]

Question, what if next game Lebron has 20 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists on 6-17 shooting or something like that and AD has 33 points, 12 boards, 4 blocks on 13-20 shooting.

Who wins FMVP then?

I’m not sure but others who think bron was better 3/4 games would say bron still. They think ad needs to have one of those 40+ all time great finals games

[francesco totti]

Question, what if next game Lebron has 20 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists on 6-17 shooting or something like that and AD has 33 points, 12 boards, 4 blocks on 13-20 shooting.

Who wins FMVP then?

Lebron because the assist/playmaking gap is too hard to overcome.

[Axe]

So the heat have no chance to win this series anymore? Sad.

[tanibanana]

So far its LeBron then Jimmy then Anthony..

G1: Davis, James, Butler
G2: Davis, James, Butler
G3: Butler, James, Herro
G4: James, Davis, Butler
G5: Butler, James, Davis

[TheGoatest]

Game Score (for Game 1)
AD: 31.8
LBJ: 24.7

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2020-nba-finals-heat-vs-lakers.html

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