View Full Version : I remember when presidential debates were about policy.
TheMan
10-01-2020, 12:22 PM
Yeah, that's right, some of the older fellas here can attest to that. There was a time not so long ago when the whole point of a debate was to put forward the best policies for the nation. It was a battle of ideas, let's be honest, both conservatives and liberals have some good ideas, not one side has the market cornered on good ideas. It was up to us to determine which side we wanted to go with...
This last presidential debate was a total shitfest, and it's been on that trend for a while now, if you actually believe one side made a strong argument on having better policies, then I don't know what to tell you. These "debates" have become a contest of gotcha moments, talking over each other, one liners, put downs and personal insults while the issues at hand that we want to see seriously discussed are thrown to the wayside. And no my lib friends, it's not all Trump's fault and he isn't the worst POTUS ever, open up a US history book...same with my right leaning ISHers, Obama wasn't the worst POTUS either.
It's our fault really, for supporting the two party system for so long that ultimately only serves the elite...what is the solution? Breaking the two party system but the way the whole thing is rigged, it's virtually impossible the way the country has been manipulated into a Right and Left faction...and that's the way the 1%ers want it.
Divide and conquer.
We're so screwed.
/rant
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 12:34 PM
Yep. Use to be about policy till the crazy Democrats changed all of that. Hillary never had a policy just said Trump was bad. Biden has no policy either. The Democrats don't have a policy and these Democrat nominees just refer us to their websites while they try and bash the conservatives as racist.
Trump talks about policies in 2016 in detail while attacking Hillary. He talked a lot about policies in his rally. Hillary didn't even campaign. She stayed home thinking she was going to win.
Even the other night Trump talked about policies.
Biden didn't say much....he said he will build one million homes with insulation so we can close fossil fuel plants LOL. He doesn't want to defund police but to get everyone to meet in the Oval office and squash the beef.
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 12:40 PM
Yeah, that's right, some of the older fellas here can attest to that. There was a time not so long ago when the whole point of a debate was to put forward the best policies for the nation. It was a battle of ideas, let's be honest, both conservatives and liberals have some good ideas, not one side has the market cornered on good ideas. It was up to us to determine which side we wanted to go with...
This last presidential debate was a total shitfest, and it's been on that trend for a while now, if you actually believe one side made a strong argument on having better policies, then I don't know what to tell you. These "debates" have become a contest of gotcha moments, talking over each other, one liners, put downs and personal insults while the issues at hand that we want to see seriously discussed are thrown to the wayside. And no my lib friends, it's not all Trump's fault and he isn't the worst POTUS ever, open up a US history book...same with my right leaning ISHers, Obama wasn't the worst POTUS either.
It's our fault really, for supporting the two party system for so long that ultimately only serves the elite...what is the solution? Breaking the two party system but the way the whole thing is rigged, it's virtually impossible the way the country has been manipulated into a Right and Left faction...and that's the way the 1%ers want it.
Divide and conquer.
We're so screwed.
/rant
Stick to Mexico politics you Mexican.
You are not American and can't vote or can you? Did the Democrats give you a bunch of ballots to fill?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 12:41 PM
Stick to Mexico politics you Mexican.
spoken like a true Trumper :lol
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 12:42 PM
They have just announced that they will be reformatting Presidential debates...mics will now be cut off, they won't be able to interrupt each other.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 12:46 PM
What are Joe Biden's policies? Serious question.
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 12:47 PM
This is the Mexican's presidential debate as compared to an American debate.
https://lauramartinez.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/miss_ife.jpg?w=640
falc39
10-01-2020, 12:51 PM
Americans deserve this kind of debate and politics. It’s a reflection of the country itself.
And what good is it to debate about policies when lying and excessive exaggeration is the norm?
Definitely agree about having more than two parties participate.
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 12:53 PM
What are Joe Biden's policies? Serious question.
None.
He said he will immediately shutdown the economy to save lives but Americans need to work so he will create jobs with a closed economy. :facepalm
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 12:59 PM
None.
He said he will immediately shutdown the economy to save lives but Americans need to work so he will create jobs with a closed economy. :facepalm
Can you imagine the chaos and the carnage on the streets if he completely shuts down this country again??
Of course.....he'll blame it on Trump. He'll say that Trump set the precedent or some bullshit like that.
JohnnySic
10-01-2020, 01:04 PM
Democrats DO have a policy:
1. Blame Trump for everything
2. Antifa
3. BLM
4. Hoaxes (coronavirus, climate change, Russian wrongdoings, etc)
5. Blame Trump some more. If all else fails, push for impeachment
SouBeachTalents
10-01-2020, 01:09 PM
Democrats DO have a policy:
1. Blame Trump for everything
2. Antifa
3. BLM
4. Hoaxes (coronavirus, climate change, Russian wrongdoings, etc)
5. Blame Trump some more. If all else fails, push for impeachment
You seriously think that's exclusive to Democrats? Trump's first foray into politics was claiming Obama was born in a different country
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 01:11 PM
^^^ that summarizes what Trumpers know of Biden :lol :facepalm
and perfectly outlines the post falc39 made
most people only know what they've seen in memes
here you guys go:
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
tpols
10-01-2020, 01:21 PM
You seriously think that's exclusive to Democrats? Trump's first foray into politics was claiming Obama was born in a different country
How is the birther hoax even remotely comparable to BLM and COVID agenda? They literally shut / burn society down over this shit. Trump saying Obama was from Kenya didn't impact the public at all.
BigKobeFan
10-01-2020, 01:37 PM
Biden's only policy is Orange man bad
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 01:42 PM
How is the birther hoax even remotely comparable to BLM and COVID agenda? They literally shut / burn society down over this shit. Trump saying Obama was from Kenya didn't impact the public at all.
BLM/ANTIFA are Trump's hoax boogeyman
Like once Biden is elected ANITA is going to flood into the suburbs and kill all the families lol
How many people have BLM/ANTIFA killed?
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 01:44 PM
BLM/ANTIFA are Trump's hoax boogeyman
Like once Biden is elected ANITA is going to flood into the suburbs and kill all the families lol
How many people have BLM/ANTIFA killed?
Are you being serious right now??
tpols
10-01-2020, 01:45 PM
How the hell are these BLM riots a hoax? We have it on video lmao.
Fires and riots and tear gas and gunshots and people being violently assaulted and/or killed businesses being smashed burned and looted all on film.
"It's just a hoax bro"
-tiddy
BigKobeFan
10-01-2020, 01:48 PM
BLM/ANTIFA are Trump's hoax boogeyman
Like once Biden is elected ANITA is going to flood into the suburbs and kill all the families lol
How many people have BLM/ANTIFA killed?
Hoax? This guy is locked in his mom's basement for far too long
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 01:49 PM
ANTIFA and BLM are no threat to either of you...and Trump is using them to fear monger votes
I don't think they are a hoax...I'm not a conspiracy guy...they are real...but there is a bigger chance of you guys dying from covid than ANTIFA
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 01:51 PM
Also...if that is the main deciding factor in your vote...fear of ANTIFA/BLM
then you should vote Biden...those things will get worse with Trump, not better
TheMan
10-01-2020, 01:59 PM
Stick to Mexico politics you Mexican.
You are not American and can't vote or can you? Did the Democrats give you a bunch of ballots to fill?
I will entertain this question one last time you racist POS. There are about one million US citizens living in Mexico, the vast majority are retirees. Their social security and life savings stretches a lot more than it does in the US. There are communities here where the majority are foreigners, San Miguel de Allende, which is about a 40 min drive from where I live is among them. I already submitted my request for a mail in ballot from the US embassy and will be getting it within the next few days. US citizens are eligible to vote from anywhere in the world FYI. I was considering voting for Trump but low IQ bigot dumbfukks like you and Shogon are making it very hard to do so, if I do in fact decide to hold my nose and vote for Sleepy Joe, it'll be because of you, **********. Was I clear enough for you or do I need to write it in crayon? On your last question, the POTUS is the head of the US government and of all the US embassies in the world so if I do get a bunch of extra ballots, you can blame that on Trump...
tpols
10-01-2020, 02:02 PM
If a mexican votes for a candidate what state does it count in? Because if you're not in a swing state, your vote doesn't matter.
SouBeachTalents
10-01-2020, 02:10 PM
How is the birther hoax even remotely comparable to BLM and COVID agenda? They literally shut / burn society down over this shit. Trump saying Obama was from Kenya didn't impact the public at all.
It doesn't just end there, there've been entire right wing outlets like InfoWars & QAnon devoted to conspiracy theories & hoaxes
TheMan
10-01-2020, 02:10 PM
If a mexican votes for a candidate what state does it count in? Because if you're not in a swing state, your vote doesn't matter.
First off, I'm a US citizen. Mexicans nor any other foreigners can't vote in the US elections...really bro? lol
Second, it's the last place of US residence, mine was Texas which is a lean red state but let's be honest, it'll go to Trump...but with changing demographics, it is trending blue more and more. If the GOP loses TX, good luck on winning another election in our lifetime.
Lastly, you said you lived in NY, so yours for the Don doesn't mean shit either, might as well save your time from voting at all. We need to have proportional electoral votes if we are to keep the archaic Electoral College in place.
tpols
10-01-2020, 02:11 PM
It doesn't end just there, there've been entire right wing outlets like InfoWars & QAnon devoted to conspiracy theories & hoaxes
yea but what impact have those right wing hoaxes had? And what are they? Have they locked society down? Have they destroyed cities and caused mayhem?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 02:17 PM
yea but what impact have those right wing hoaxes had? And what are they? Have they locked society down? Have they destroyed cities and caused mayhem?
they've taught you to live in fear
everything is a lie...everyone is out to get you...you have no life, you're just a puppet being controlled by the illuminati...etc
also, yes conspiracy people have done real damage outside of their own minds...stalking the parents of those who lost kids to mass shootings...destroying 5G towers...convincing people vaccines have satanic mirochips...etc
tpols
10-01-2020, 02:19 PM
they've taught you to live in fear
:roll: :roll:
That is too rich. My god... you were one of the biggest COVID fearmongerers on this site. It was hook line and sinker.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 02:20 PM
ANTIFA and BLM are no threat to either of you...and Trump is using them to fear monger votes
I don't think they are a hoax...I'm not a conspiracy guy...they are real...but there is a bigger chance of you guys dying from covid than ANTIFA
ANTIFA and BLM are destroying cities and businesses and are beating people up on streets. Just cause a BLM'er hasn't punched you in the face yet doesn't mean they aren't a threat. Crawl out of that rock you've been living in. Wake the **** up.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 02:22 PM
ANTIFA and BLM are destroying cities and businesses and are beating people up on streets. Just cause a BLM'er hasn't punched you in the face yet doesn't mean they aren't a threat. Crawl out of that rock you've been living in. Wake the **** up.
Have you been attacked by BLM or ANTIFA?
crawl out of that rock and watch the YouTube videos that you did? :lol
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 02:27 PM
Have you been attacked by BLM or ANTIFA?
crawl out of that rock and watch the YouTube videos that you did? :lol
This is rich considering you are the guy who flips out and demands gun control whenever there is a well publicized shooting.
Have you ever been shot by a semi automatic rifle?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 02:28 PM
okay serious question...how many people have BLM and ANTIFA killed?
Can anyone give me a number?
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 02:35 PM
Have you been attacked by BLM or ANTIFA?
crawl out of that rock and watch the YouTube videos that you did? :lol
:facepalm
Just because it hasn't happened to me, doesn't mean it's not happening. Did you take your medication today??
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 02:38 PM
:facepalm
Just because it hasn't happened to me, doesn't mean it's not happening. Did you take your medication today??
them killing people?
how many have they killed?...I mean I know there are a few, but is it more deaths than those killed by lightning strikes?
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 02:48 PM
them killing people?
how many have they killed?...I mean I know there are a few, but is it more deaths than those killed by lightning strikes?
So you acknowledge that they've killed a few now? Cause a page or two ago you were making it seem as if they haven't killed anyone or are even remotely a threat.
Here's a list:
2 people killed in Chaz
David Dorn
Little girl killed outside Wendy's in Atlanta
Trump supporter in Portland
Federal Agent in California
Better question is, how many businesses and lives have they destroyed?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
so 6 people?...is that what you're going with?...single digits
you live in fear of something that has killed 6 fcking people...there are an average of 43 lightning strike deaths per year in the US
covid is a hoax at 200k...but we should all be terrified of a group that has killed 6
bladefd
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
Debates have pretty much been sh!tfest ever since Trump has been running. Obama v McCain/Romney weren't too bad from what I remember. Even the primary debates were not so bad until the 2015 cycle when they became trash and personal attacks. Ever since Trump came to the podium, it has become complete crapshows. Even the democratic primary debates were pretty crappy early on so they have dropped in quality too. Just unfortunate and I hope we can get back to normal soon, but I'm not sure if we will..
JohnnySic
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
I dont fear Antifa/BLM. I just think they suck.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
so 6 people?...is that what you're going with?...single digits
you live in fear of something that has killed 6 fcking people...there are an average of 43 lightning strike deaths per year in the US
covid is a hoax at 200k...but we should all be terrified of a group that has killed 6
I figured you were on clown mode today. You ain't fooling anyone. You've been intimating for a while now that ANTIFA and BLM were nothing to worry about, but now here you are downplaying a few murders. Not going to waste my time with someone as thick-headed as you.
JohnnySic
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
It isn't just the number killed. They've sure as hell injured scores and ruined people's lives in other ways.
tpols
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
It isn't just the number killed. They've sure as hell injured scores and ruined people's lives in other ways.
Not only that, but tiddy said it was a right wing "hoax". You don't have to be scared of something to acknowledge it is legit happening. The media whipping dummies up into a frenzy over cherrypicked clips of police violence is a problem and BLM is its unruly child.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
I figured you were on clown mode today. You ain't fooling anyone. You've been intimating for a while now that ANTIFA and BLM were nothing to worry about, but now here you are downplaying a few murders. Not going to waste my time with someone as thick-headed as you.
you spent the last few months downplaying 200k covid deaths...so yeah you bet your ass I'll downplay 6 lol
Derka
10-01-2020, 03:09 PM
These debates don't matter. Most folks have made up their minds. This is just theater for dumb, low attention span Americans.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
It isn't just the number killed. They've sure as hell injured scores and ruined people's lives in other ways.
They sure have attempted to murder a ton of people though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaIFfH7bT0
But this is not real or a threat to people like primetime. He must live on Mars or something. What a clown.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 03:19 PM
YouTube videos...that's what works for you
So if there are videos of old people choking to death of covid coughing up blood does that NOW make it real for you?
You know what, that isn't just you Chewing...people have see things in this country I guess...if the Floyd death was just written about and never recorded live that whole ordeal would have been different. And that is an issue because there will never be a shortage of crazy videos now that we are all packing cameras.
DonAlphaTrump
10-01-2020, 03:22 PM
They sure have attempted to murder a ton of people though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaIFfH7bT0
But this is not real or a threat to people like primetime. He must live on Mars or something. What a clown.
That guy needs to get shot. That is a definition of a coward.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 03:26 PM
YouTube videos...that's what works for you
So if there are videos of old people choking to death of covid coughing up blood does that NOW make it real for you?
You know what, that isn't just you Chewing...people have see things in this country I guess...if the Floyd death was just written about and never recorded live that whole ordeal would have been different. And that is an issue because there will never be a shortage of crazy videos now that we are all packing cameras.
You were downplaying ANTIFA and BLM and I pointed out how clueless you are, and now your defense is to bring up COVID. Classic case of Whataboutism. What will you bring up next? The amount of people killed in Middle East Wars too?
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 03:28 PM
That guy needs to get shot. That is a definition of a coward.
Our Justice system is corrupt and has failed us. That guy was arrested, but eventually had the charges dropped. No wonder vigilantes are taking to the streets with guns. We can't rely on our local governments to hold these criminals accountable.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 03:30 PM
You were downplaying ANTIFA and BLM and I pointed out how clueless you are, and now your defense is to bring up COVID. Classic case of Whataboutism. What will you bring up next? The amount of people killed in Middle East Wars too?
what?...makes no sense, there are way more people killed from those wars vs ANTIFA/BLM
that was my point...there are more people killed by LIGHTNING strikes than BLM/ANTIFA
DonAlphaTrump
10-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Our Justice system is corrupt and has failed us. That guy was arrested, but eventually had the charges dropped. No wonder vigilantes are taking to the streets with guns. We can't rely on our local governments to hold these criminals accountable.
I bought a ballistics helmet, a plate carrier because when trump wins, we are ready for civil war.
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 03:46 PM
They sure have attempted to murder a ton of people though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaIFfH7bT0
But this is not real or a threat to people like primetime. He must live on Mars or something. What a clown.
We will stand by for right now.
We will go ape shit if this happens.
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 04:05 PM
what?...makes no sense, there are way more people killed from those wars vs ANTIFA/BLM
that was my point...there are more people killed by LIGHTNING strikes than BLM/ANTIFA
Are you a psychopath??
Are you saying that these murders don't matter because more people have died at the hands of lighting strikes? Is that what you're ****ing saying?? Are you a psychopath??
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 04:16 PM
Are you a psychopath??
Are you saying that these murders don't matter because more people have died at the hands of lighting strikes? Is that what you're ****ing saying?? Are you a psychopath??
He’s a troll with inconsistent and arbitrarily decided views.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:18 PM
Are you a psychopath??
Are you saying that these murders don't matter because more people have died at the hands of lighting strikes? Is that what you're ****ing saying?? Are you a psychopath??
That's what YOU say with covid :lol:facepalm
Comparing it to the flu and everything else....posting chart after chart comparing death numbers.
You couldn't tell I was using the same angle?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:20 PM
He’s a troll with inconsistent and arbitrarily decided views.
Wrong...yall mfers are the inconsistent ones. Covid is a hoax at 200k deaths...ANTIFA is a real threat at 6 deaths...everyome buy armor and guns lol
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Wrong...yall mfers are the inconsistent ones. Covid is a hoax at 200k deaths...ANTIFA is a real threat at 6 deaths...everyome buy armor and guns lol
Have you ever been shot by a semi automatic rifle?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:31 PM
Have you ever been shot by a semi automatic rifle?
You're asking the wrong person this, I've grown up with guns my whole life and have lost friends to gun violence. Every year I was in high school at least one student was dead to gun violence...the 90s, when the murder rate was double that of today. I KNOW guns actually kill people.
ANTIFA...6 people total
TheMan
10-01-2020, 04:33 PM
You're asking the wrong person this, I've grown up with guns my whole life and have lost friends to gun violence. Every year I was in high school at least one student was dead to gun violence...the 90s, when the murder rate was double that of today. I KNOW guns actually kill people.
ANTIFA...6 people total
Why are you wasting your time with a dimwit?
tpols
10-01-2020, 04:33 PM
Wrong...yall mfers are the inconsistent ones. Covid is a hoax at 200k deaths...ANTIFA is a real threat at 6 deaths...everyome buy armor and guns lol
Weren't you the one trying to discredit us when we told you cancer, heart disease, and diabetes kill way more people than COVID, and that it didn't matter because of context? Now you want to use (fake news) death totals as your sole argument? lol....
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:36 PM
Weren't you the one trying to discredit us when we told you cancer, heart disease, and diabetes kill way more people than COVID, and that it didn't matter because of context? Now you want to use (fake news) death totals as your sole argument? lol....
So you compare covid numbers to fcking cancer of all things but I cant compare ANTIFA numbers to lightning strikes? lol
Think about that
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:37 PM
Why are you wasting your time with a dimwit?
I ask myself this all the time in here lol
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 04:40 PM
You're asking the wrong person this, I've grown up with guns my whole life and have lost friends to gun violence. Every year I was in high school at least one student was dead to gun violence...the 90s, when the murder rate was double that of today. I KNOW guns actually kill people.
ANTIFA...6 people total
Lmao you are such a blatant troll. It’s pretty funny.
tpols
10-01-2020, 04:41 PM
So you compare covid numbers to fcking cancer of all things but I cant compare ANTIFA numbers to lightning strikes? lol
Think about that
Uh yes... COVID and cancer are both disease. They fall under the same bucket of deaths ~ illness.
You're comparing controlled human violence to a natural disaster.
That simply makes zero sense. :oldlol: :facepalm
tpols
10-01-2020, 04:44 PM
Tiddy we can't stop lightning strikes from happening. Nobody here is Zues. We can stop BLM and ANTIFA from tearing down cities, burning, looting, and inflicting violence.
That's the difference.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:47 PM
Tiddy we can't stop lightning strikes from happening. Nobody here is Zues. We can stop BLM and ANTIFA from tearing down cities, burning, looting, and inflicting violence.
That's the difference.
My point is you're living in fear of something that is less likely to kill you than lightning.
It's the EXTACT same point YOU make when comparing covid to "whatever"
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:48 PM
I'm using YOUR logic... can you see that now?
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 04:49 PM
My point is you're living in fear of something that is less likely to kill you than lightning.
It's the EXTACT same point YOU make when comparing covid to "whatever"
Like you after every highly publicized shooting.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Patrick Chewing
10-01-2020, 04:50 PM
The man is a psychopath. I've called my local police buddies down in Dallas to be on the lookout for prime. He needs to be admitted.
tpols
10-01-2020, 04:53 PM
My point is you're living in fear of something that is less likely to kill you than lightning.
It's the EXTACT same point YOU make when comparing covid to "whatever"
I'm not living in fear of BLM. :roll:
What makes you think that? Because I call them out on their belligerent behavior? If someones acting up and I say "hey, that guys doing something bad" why would that mean I'm afraid? By making an observation? What? :oldlol:
Your analogies are just so absurd and the fact you couldn't see the congruence between both our sets says a LOT.
TheMan
10-01-2020, 04:55 PM
Weren't you the one trying to discredit us when we told you cancer, heart disease, and diabetes kill way more people than COVID, and that it didn't matter because of context? Now you want to use (fake news) death totals as your sole argument? lol....
:facepalm
Those diseases you mentioned aren't transmittable...can you not see a difference?
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:55 PM
The observation of "oh no the world will be overrun by ANTIFA without Trump!!!...Armageddon is near"!!! Let's me know
tpols
10-01-2020, 04:56 PM
You're not using any logic. There's a ton of shit our government could do to stop cancer which kills MILLIONS every year. Put restrictions on fast food advertising how they did cigarrettes, develop a real healthcare system, cap pricing on drugs and invest in more research. There's a ton of shit our government can do to stop wild mobs from ****ing up society, send in the national guard. There's NOT a ton of shit our government can do to stop lightning strikes. So it's just totally incoherent to bring that up.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 04:57 PM
Chewing always in the covid thread with the "2.2 million" line
Meanwhile ANTIFA...6 people :lol
DonAlphaTrump
10-01-2020, 05:00 PM
Antifa and BLM are very violent people...they may not have caused a death, but they cracked someone on the skull with a bike lock.
The statistics would not show such behavior.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 05:02 PM
We need Cleverness to post some ANTIFA hospitalization charts lol
tpols
10-01-2020, 05:08 PM
:facepalm
Those diseases you mentioned aren't transmittable...can you not see a difference?
HIV was transmittable and the government didn't do a damn thing about it for a whole decade. Because there was really no benefit to politicizing or solving it. And it was a WHOLE lot deadlier than this fake news flu that has a 99.9% survival rate.
It's as simple as this Hombre... COVID is a political weapon. Countries that wanted to power grab with it, went ahead. Those that didn't, like Sweden, didn't. USA Blue states overwhelmingly did. And right after the impeachment failure... it was their new ploy to knock Trump out. And we see in the debates today it is ALL they talk about.
"Trump killed 200,000 people he's hitler!".
It is truly evil how they locked down the country just to throw it in Trump's face. I know you fancy yourself as some Mexican USA political expert (LOL), but Red states didn't lock down anywhere near as hard as blue states. And they had LESS deaths. USA has like 10x more deaths than China where the thing started, and with way more people and cramped conditions.
You have been PLAYED, mate. For a damn fool.
Adios.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 05:21 PM
Trump led the lockdown...it happened under HIM
and yes of course covid is being used for political gain, that is the same thing Trump is doing with ANTIFA...he fear mongers ANTIFA tweets daily
'I'll scare you into voting for me'...that's politics in a nutshell
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 05:22 PM
Trump led the lockdown...it happened under HIM
and yes of course covid is being used for political gain, that is the same thing Trump is doing with ANTIFA...he fear mongers ANTIFA tweets daily
'I'll scare you into voting for me'...that's politics in a nutshell
There’s a difference between scaring someone and forcibly shutting down someone’s life.
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 05:24 PM
There’s a difference between scaring someone and forcibly shutting down someone’s life.
that's a stretch for most...who were given MORE money than they made working...but again all that happened under TRUMP
warriorfan
10-01-2020, 05:28 PM
that's a stretch for most...who were given MORE money than they made working...but again all that happened under TRUMP
So now you are going to spin the lockdowns as a positive thing and then say Trump did it? What the hell? Literally what is the matter with you? You have some sort of brain damage or something.
And as you blame Trump for lockdowns...Biden promised to continue lockdowns if he is elected when Trump said he’s trying to keep everything open.
You manage to design a ridiculously flawed argument EVERYTIME you post. It’s completely mind blowing.
tpols
10-01-2020, 05:29 PM
There’s a difference between scaring someone and forcibly shutting down someone’s life.
Bingo.
Trump's fear mongering hasn't affected mine yours, or tiddy's life in any way. We haven't been attacked by them, and if we wanted to, we could just go about our life totally tuning him out on the issue. COVID? I still cant even sit down and eat at a McDonald's. NJ is still in total lockdown, some employers arent letting us go back into the office until JUNE.
That's part of why I want Biden to win... everything would go back to normal in my state if he won very quickly. And he'd be praised as some hero for defeating COVID and life's back to normal yippeee!
~primetime~
10-01-2020, 05:32 PM
Bingo.
Trump's fear mongering hasn't affected mine yours, or tiddy's life in any way. We haven't been attacked by them, and if we wanted to, we could just go about our life totally tuning him out on the issue. COVID? I still cant even sit down and eat at a McDonald's. NJ is still in total lockdown, some employers arent letting us go back into the office until JUNE.
That's part of why I want Biden to win... everything would go back to normal in my state if he won very quickly. And he'd be praised as some hero for defeating COVID and life's back to normal yippeee!
Trump spearheaded that...and claims he saved "millions"
you should be mad at him
but politicians using it as a 'political weapon'...to gain votes...yeah Biden camp is going to try and use covid to make Trump look bad, and Trump is using ANTIFA to make Biden look bad
DonAlphaTrump
10-01-2020, 05:33 PM
Bingo.
Trump's fear mongering hasn't affected mine yours, or tiddy's life in any way. We haven't been attacked by them, and if we wanted to, we could just go about our life totally tuning him out on the issue. COVID? I still cant even sit down and eat at a McDonald's. NJ is still in total lockdown, some employers arent letting us go back into the office until JUNE.
That's part of why I want Biden to win... everything would go back to normal in my state if he won very quickly. And he'd be praised as some hero for defeating COVID and life's back to normal yippeee!
That part of me is why I sometimes want to embrace communism.
TheMan
10-01-2020, 06:46 PM
HIV was transmittable and the government didn't do a damn thing about it for a whole decade. Because there was really no benefit to politicizing or solving it. And it was a WHOLE lot deadlier than this fake news flu that has a 99.9% survival rate.
It's as simple as this Hombre... COVID is a political weapon. Countries that wanted to power grab with it, went ahead. Those that didn't, like Sweden, didn't. USA Blue states overwhelmingly did. And right after the impeachment failure... it was their new ploy to knock Trump out. And we see in the debates today it is ALL they talk about.
"Trump killed 200,000 people he's hitler!".
It is truly evil how they locked down the country just to throw it in Trump's face. I know you fancy yourself as some Mexican USA political expert (LOL), but Red states didn't lock down anywhere near as hard as blue states. And they had LESS deaths. USA has like 10x more deaths than China where the thing started, and with way more people and cramped conditions.
You have been PLAYED, mate. For a damn fool.
Adios.
Just keep in mind that your vote for Trump will be worthless...
:oldlol:
tpols
10-01-2020, 07:00 PM
I don't vote... you'd have to be an idiota to think your 1/350,000,000+ vote matters.
Might as well go play the mega millions lottery.
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 07:03 PM
Just keep in mind that your vote for Trump will be worthless...
:oldlol:
You're the last guy on this site that should be participating in anything related to the presidential election.
You didn't survive 2016.
We know you are a man of your word but we allow that's why you're here or else we expected you to leave peacefully.
TheMan
10-01-2020, 07:38 PM
You're the last guy on this site that should be participating in anything related to the presidential election.
You didn't survive 2016.
We know you are a man of your word but we allow that's why you're here or else we expected you to leave peacefully.
Oh yeah? Make me leave, tough guy.
DonAlphaTrump
10-01-2020, 07:44 PM
Just keep in mind that your vote for Trump will be worthless...
:oldlol:
Why do you care about American politics? Aren't you mexican from a village?
Luka Doncic
10-01-2020, 08:42 PM
Oh yeah? Make me leave, tough guy.
We allow.
ZenMaster
10-01-2020, 08:57 PM
Oh yeah? Make me leave, tough guy.
Seen it mentioned a bunch of times now, so wanted to ask you, just out of interest.
Were you born in the US or did you immigrate later in life?
TheMan
10-01-2020, 09:34 PM
Seen it mentioned a bunch of times now, so wanted to ask you, just out of interest.
Were you born in the US or did you immigrate later in life?
I will allow...
Only because I don't think you're trolling so I will answer, I've talked about here before so it here goes. My ancestors on my dad's side were Tejanos, Mexicans living in Texas before the good ol' gringo land grab named the Mexican-American War. Mexico lost not only Texas but half it's territory as a result. My ancestors went from being Mexicans to US citizens overnight. Eva Longoria said it best, we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us. My family have been American citizens going on more than 150 years. I have family members who have fought in every major war since WW I. I would venture to say that my family is more American than more than half of this board, including your ZenMaster, prove me wrong.
I will allow...:pimp:
and I'm from ChiTown, born and raised and I have a tear in my eye because my White Sox were eliminated today :cry:
TheMan
10-01-2020, 09:52 PM
Stupid ISH, doesn't allow me to correct my grammatical mistakes, was busy on a call while I wrote half of my last post :mad:
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