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Luka Doncic
10-02-2020, 09:24 PM
Could it be possible he’s being treated with something new and he finds the vaccine for Americans? Since he is the most powerful man in this world I think he would be taking treatments others haven’t yet.


This adds to his legacy if indeed that’s what he is doing.

I think he’s doing everything to stay alive so whatever it is will be available for Americans too.

diamenz
10-02-2020, 09:34 PM
it's unreal how much some people salivate over donald trump. talk about derangement. i thought the haters were bad.

Lakers Legend#32
10-02-2020, 09:41 PM
Which one of you Trump cultists is volunteering to pour bleach in his A-Hole?

Lebron23
10-02-2020, 10:56 PM
it's unreal how much some people salivate over donald trump. talk about derangement. i thought the haters were bad.

Lmao. I think his supporters are going to create a cult. We might see a new religion called Donaldism.

Lebron23
10-02-2020, 10:57 PM
Which one of you Trump cultists is volunteering to pour bleach in his A-Hole?

Lmao. Rep

Luka Doncic
10-03-2020, 10:11 AM
Whatever treatment he’s getting may be the answer for the world.

We will see in a few days.

They are monitoring him closely. If this treatment works it will be equivalent to Trump finding the cure.

The treatment he’s getting is not approved by FDA so Trump signed off as being the first to try.

Patrick Chewing
10-03-2020, 10:34 AM
it's unreal how much some people salivate over donald trump. talk about derangement. i thought the haters were bad.

It's called supporting our President. Sorry that you do not see it that way.

TheMan
10-03-2020, 10:36 AM
Whatever treatment he’s getting may be the answer for the world.

We will see in a few days.

They are monitoring him closely. If this treatment works it will be equivalent to Trump finding the cure.

The treatment he’s getting is not approved by FDA so Trump signed off as being the first to try.

It's Remdesivir, it's been used as treatment for covid19 for months now. Are you always this clueless?

diamenz
10-03-2020, 02:28 PM
It's called supporting our President. Sorry that you do not see it that way.

there's a more than apparent difference between being a healthy, reasonable supporter and constantly slobbing all over 'daddy's' knob.

Patrick Chewing
10-03-2020, 02:30 PM
there's a more than apparent difference between being a healthy, reasonable supporter and constantly slobbing all over 'daddy's' knob.

Reasonable to you is being anti-Trump....get the **** outta here.

diamenz
10-03-2020, 05:48 PM
Reasonable to you is being anti-Trump....get the **** outta here.

:roll:

if that's what you take away from my posts here, then you're not paying much attention. either that or you're so far up trump's ass that you can't see daylight anymore. there's plenty of reasonable trump supporters here:

hawker
akrazotile
rufuspaul
cleverness
shogon
zenmaster
rawimpact

...just to name a few. most of their posts are interesting, insightful and worth reading. otoh, the posts from the trump sycophants are predictable and tiring.

Cleverness
10-03-2020, 06:10 PM
I'm about as much of a Trump supporter as Nanners, btw.

I'm not even voting for him next month.

Shogon
10-03-2020, 07:20 PM
I'm not a Trump supporter. I voted for the man because I do not question for a second that Hillary would have taken us into a new ground war.

I don't foresee myself voting this time, as I simply do not care. I'm tired, jaded, and I don't care what anyone does. It doesn't matter. We don't really have a choice.

The public will be ready for a revolution to bring about change when they're ready for a revolution to bring about change and not a second sooner. I don't plan on becoming an activist, so it is what it is.

And if I do come off as a Trump supporter, it's because I feel obligated to defend the man quite often because of the level of irrationality I see posted here, other sites, see in the media and hear form the general public. People rarely have rational takes as it pertains to Donald Trump. The man has a lot of people infinitely riled up for no real reason other than they do as they'd told. It's... something I've never seen in my lifetime, that's for sure. Obama was close I guess, there was a lot of irrationality coming out of the people that lean right. But nothing like this. I think it's just the times.

Back to Trump... there are so many blatantly false things said about the guy, that the media and his detractors end up lying as much as that old bastard does. It's really a sight to behold.

We live in a shit show and there is no end in sight.

Cleverness
10-03-2020, 07:42 PM
I'm not a Trump supporter. I voted for the man because I do not question for a second that Hillary would have taken us into a new ground war.

I don't foresee myself voting this time, as I simply do not care. I'm tired, jaded, and I don't care what anyone does. It doesn't matter. We don't really have a choice.

The public will be ready for a revolution to bring about change when they're ready for a revolution to bring about change and not a second sooner. I don't plan on becoming an activist, so it is what it is.

And if I do come off as a Trump supporter, it's because I feel obligated to defend the man quite often because of the level of irrationality I see posted here, other sites, see in the media and hear form the general public. People rarely have rational takes as it pertains to Donald Trump. The man has a lot of people infinitely riled up for no real reason other than they do as they'd told. It's... something I've never seen in my lifetime, that's for sure. Obama was close I guess, there was a lot of irrationality coming out of the people that lean right. But nothing like this. I think it's just the times.

Back to Trump... there are so many blatantly false things said about the guy, that the media and his detractors end up lying as much as that old bastard does. It's really a sight to behold.

We live in a shit show and there is no end in sight.

:applause:

Axe
10-03-2020, 07:44 PM
:roll:

if that's what you take away from my posts here, then you're not paying much attention. either that or you're so far up trump's ass that you can't see daylight anymore. there's plenty of reasonable trump supporters here:

hawker
akrazotile
rufuspaul
cleverness
shogon
zenmaster
rawimpact

...just to name a few. most of their posts are interesting, insightful and worth reading. otoh, the posts from the trump sycophants are predictable and tiring.
What about that BigKobeFan? I think he supports trump.

Patrick Chewing
10-03-2020, 07:45 PM
:roll:

if that's what you take away from my posts here, then you're not paying much attention. either that or you're so far up trump's ass that you can't see daylight anymore. there's plenty of reasonable trump supporters here:

hawker
akrazotile
rufuspaul
cleverness
shogon
zenmaster
rawimpact

...just to name a few. most of their posts are interesting, insightful and worth reading. otoh, the posts from the trump sycophants are predictable and tiring.

What is "reasonable" to you? Judging by your previous posts and by most of the other posters here, "reasonable" means someone who criticizes Trump.

Patrick Chewing
10-03-2020, 07:48 PM
I'm not a Trump supporter. I voted for the man because I do not question for a second that Hillary would have taken us into a new ground war.

I don't foresee myself voting this time, as I simply do not care. I'm tired, jaded, and I don't care what anyone does. It doesn't matter. We don't really have a choice.

The public will be ready for a revolution to bring about change when they're ready for a revolution to bring about change and not a second sooner. I don't plan on becoming an activist, so it is what it is.

And if I do come off as a Trump supporter, it's because I feel obligated to defend the man quite often because of the level of irrationality I see posted here, other sites, see in the media and hear form the general public. People rarely have rational takes as it pertains to Donald Trump. The man has a lot of people infinitely riled up for no real reason other than they do as they'd told. It's... something I've never seen in my lifetime, that's for sure. Obama was close I guess, there was a lot of irrationality coming out of the people that lean right. But nothing like this. I think it's just the times.

Back to Trump... there are so many blatantly false things said about the guy, that the media and his detractors end up lying as much as that old bastard does. It's really a sight to behold.

We live in a shit show and there is no end in sight.

Even if you don't support the guy, if you don't vote, that only gives Biden more of a chance and that would be disastrous. If Trump wins, you know that it's his last term and he will most likely bring the economy back.

But a vote for Trump is a vote to prevent this country from killing itself from within. The Democrats want a revolution. They want a new Constitution and new laws. They want a new country. They are blatantly saying it out in public now with no fear whatsoever.

falc39
10-03-2020, 08:10 PM
Even if you don't support the guy, if you don't vote, that only gives Biden more of a chance and that would be disastrous. If Trump wins, you know that it's his last term and he will most likely bring the economy back.

But a vote for Trump is a vote to prevent this country from killing itself from within. The Democrats want a revolution. They want a new Constitution and new laws. They want a new country. They are blatantly saying it out in public now with no fear whatsoever.

His record doesn’t show that. We already know what happened after 4 years. Failed trade war. Skyrocketing deficits. Dude was pressuring the fed for negative interest rates (and this was before COVID). When Trump was running as an outsider, nobody quite knew what to expect and that gave him an advantage over the establishment. He doesn’t have that advantage anymore.

TheMan
10-03-2020, 08:10 PM
What is "reasonable" to you? Judging by your previous posts and by most of the other posters here, "reasonable" means someone who criticizes Trump.

This isn't Cuba you low IQ partisan hack...you won't be taken to concentration camps if you criticize the president, even if he belongs to the same political party you do..it is permitted :oldlol:

bladefd
10-03-2020, 09:27 PM
Trump is not going to win this election. People saw how he had been mocking COVID for first couple months then downplaying for months. Even if he gets out of the hospital, he has shot himself in the foot. His only play is declaring mail-in-ballots invalid and using his SC majority to side with him, but that's going to cause a massive outcry & be a dangerous precedent by SC if they go there.

As falc said, Trump was running as an outsider in 2016. All doubts are out the window now, and we know he is the very swamp he said he would stop & a fraud. He is no longer running on house money and doesn't have an opponent as hated as Hillary in front of him.

Cleverness
10-03-2020, 10:17 PM
Even if you don't support the guy, if you don't vote, that only gives Biden more of a chance and that would be disastrous. If Trump wins, you know that it's his last term and he will most likely bring the economy back.

But a vote for Trump is a vote to prevent this country from killing itself from within. The Democrats want a revolution. They want a new Constitution and new laws. They want a new country. They are blatantly saying it out in public now with no fear whatsoever.

I would probably vote for Trump if I lived in a swing state.

Trump's policies would be better than Biden's and the Left's tears would be spectacular... might even break the disaster that is the Democrat party.

Cleverness
10-03-2020, 10:26 PM
Trump is not going to win this election. People saw how he had been mocking COVID for first couple months then downplaying for months. Even if he gets out of the hospital, he has shot himself in the foot. His only play is declaring mail-in-ballots invalid and using his SC majority to side with him, but that's going to cause a massive outcry & be a dangerous precedent by SC if they go there.

As falc said, Trump was running as an outsider in 2016. All doubts are out the window now, and we know he is the very swamp he said he would stop & a fraud. He is no longer running on house money and doesn't have an opponent as hated as Hillary in front of him.

Low iq take right there.

Trump wants a balance of re-opening and some pseudoscience.

Biden wants to hire Trump's lead Covid-19 task force member (quack Fauci) and go full pseudoscience, Peru-style, straight out of the CCP playbook. Strict, totalitarian lockdown, mandatory masks, and whatever pseudoscientific business regulations his quacks will come up with.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485046-How-many-lives-has-Trump-s-Coronavirus-Team-saved/page3

Shogon
10-03-2020, 11:53 PM
Even if you don't support the guy, if you don't vote, that only gives Biden more of a chance and that would be disastrous. If Trump wins, you know that it's his last term and he will most likely bring the economy back.

But a vote for Trump is a vote to prevent this country from killing itself from within. The Democrats want a revolution. They want a new Constitution and new laws. They want a new country. They are blatantly saying it out in public now with no fear whatsoever.

I think you're going a little far. Yes, there are some that are rather out there and the trend on the left is rather alarming.

But what I'm telling you is, if that's the way the tides are going because of income inequality, that's the way the tides are going. You can't sweep waves back into the ocean, you'd have to be a fool to try, and I'm not about to try to become an activist. My vote won't do shit long term, even if it made a difference in this election.

We already have full blown socialism... for the ultra rich corporations and banks. The system is ****ed either way and it will not stand. The only thing is, who knows the day or the hour? Nobody.

Nanners
10-04-2020, 10:21 AM
I'm about as much of a Trump supporter as Nanners, btw.

I'm not even voting for him next month.

:oldlol:

I cant vote for Biden, so it seems like Trump might be my only option in 2020. I would love to vote for Vermin Supreme or Kanye but I'd be surprised if either of those names are printed on my ballot.

ps: I love you

Nanners
10-04-2020, 10:43 AM
Low iq take right there.

Trump wants a balance of re-opening and some pseudoscience.

Biden wants to hire Trump's lead Covid-19 task force member (quack Fauci) and go full pseudoscience, Peru-style, straight out of the CCP playbook. Strict, totalitarian lockdown, mandatory masks, and whatever pseudoscientific business regulations his quacks will come up with.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485046-How-many-lives-has-Trump-s-Coronavirus-Team-saved/page3

Speaking of the CCP playbook, when are americans going to start questioning how NYC supposedly had 23,800 covid deaths, while Shanghai has had 7 and Beijing has had 9?

Aside from a short (2 month) lockdown of Wuhan/Hubei, China has done virtually nothing to slow the virus within their borders (the place that the outbreak began)... and yet NYC - a locked down city on the other side of the globe from China, has supposedly had thousands of deaths for every one death in these massive and densely packed Chinese cities. Shanghai is only ~500 miles from Wuhan, and the cities are connected by 40+ daily bullet trains and 16+ direct flights every day, and yet the virus has killed Shanghai residents with the same frequency as ****ing vending machine accidents... meanwhile NYC is 7500 miles away and connected by zero trains and zero direct flights.

FFS China (ground zero) as a whole has seen just 4600 covid deaths in their nation of 1.4 billion, while NY state (other side of the planet) supposedly has 32800 deaths in a state of 19.5 million residents.... helllloooo???

It boggles my mind that so many americans are still unable to see the truth after it has been staring them in the face for MONTHS. Covid19 isnt just a new strain of coronavirus (aka the common cold), its a massive multinational marketing campaign for globalism.

Patrick Chewing
10-04-2020, 11:59 AM
This isn't Cuba you low IQ partisan hack...you won't be taken to concentration camps if you criticize the president, even if he belongs to the same political party you do..it is permitted :oldlol:

You will be under Biden or whatever Democrat follows him. What do you think the overwhelming censoring of Conservative viewpoints on social media platforms is? What do you think Cancel Culture is? These aren't just made up fictional dystopian ideas. These are happening right now.

Nanners
10-04-2020, 12:12 PM
This isn't Cuba you low IQ partisan hack...you won't be taken to concentration camps if you criticize the president, even if he belongs to the same political party you do..it is permitted :oldlol:

So Donald Trump is not a fascist then? Because one of the defining features of fascism is that any and all criticism of the leader is strictly prohibited

bladefd
10-04-2020, 07:42 PM
Low iq take right there.

Trump wants a balance of re-opening and some pseudoscience.

Biden wants to hire Trump's lead Covid-19 task force member (quack Fauci) and go full pseudoscience, Peru-style, straight out of the CCP playbook. Strict, totalitarian lockdown, mandatory masks, and whatever pseudoscientific business regulations his quacks will come up with.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485046-How-many-lives-has-Trump-s-Coronavirus-Team-saved/page3

Mocking COVID was February and March before any lockdown. This has nothing to do with re-opening something that wasn't even closed. At least get your talking points straight, Trumpeter.

Downplaying COVID was February to the last debate on Tuesday, before & during lockdowns. That concerns both before lockdown and during lockdown, so you are partially right on this one.

bladefd
10-04-2020, 07:50 PM
Speaking of the CCP playbook, when are americans going to start questioning how NYC supposedly had 23,800 covid deaths, while Shanghai has had 7 and Beijing has had 9?

Aside from a short (2 month) lockdown of Wuhan/Hubei, China has done virtually nothing to slow the virus within their borders (the place that the outbreak began)... and yet NYC - a locked down city on the other side of the globe from China, has supposedly had thousands of deaths for every one death in these massive and densely packed Chinese cities. Shanghai is only ~500 miles from Wuhan, and the cities are connected by 40+ daily bullet trains and 16+ direct flights every day, and yet the virus has killed Shanghai residents with the same frequency as ****ing vending machine accidents... meanwhile NYC is 7500 miles away and connected by zero trains and zero direct flights.

FFS China (ground zero) as a whole has seen just 4600 covid deaths in their nation of 1.4 billion, while NY state (other side of the planet) supposedly has 32800 deaths in a state of 19.5 million residents.... helllloooo???

It boggles my mind that so many americans are still unable to see the truth after it has been staring them in the face for MONTHS. Covid19 isnt just a new strain of coronavirus (aka the common cold), its a massive multinational marketing campaign for globalism.

You sound like a Chinese shill buying everything the Chinese communist government tries to sell to its people and the rest of the world. If Xi/CCP said China stood for freedom, liberty, democracy and justice, I bet you would believe him. :hammerhead:

Shogon
10-04-2020, 08:17 PM
Speaking of the CCP playbook, when are americans going to start questioning how NYC supposedly had 23,800 covid deaths, while Shanghai has had 7 and Beijing has had 9?

Aside from a short (2 month) lockdown of Wuhan/Hubei, China has done virtually nothing to slow the virus within their borders (the place that the outbreak began)... and yet NYC - a locked down city on the other side of the globe from China, has supposedly had thousands of deaths for every one death in these massive and densely packed Chinese cities. Shanghai is only ~500 miles from Wuhan, and the cities are connected by 40+ daily bullet trains and 16+ direct flights every day, and yet the virus has killed Shanghai residents with the same frequency as ****ing vending machine accidents... meanwhile NYC is 7500 miles away and connected by zero trains and zero direct flights.

FFS China (ground zero) as a whole has seen just 4600 covid deaths in their nation of 1.4 billion, while NY state (other side of the planet) supposedly has 32800 deaths in a state of 19.5 million residents.... helllloooo???

It boggles my mind that so many americans are still unable to see the truth after it has been staring them in the face for MONTHS. Covid19 isnt just a new strain of coronavirus (aka the common cold), its a massive multinational marketing campaign for globalism.

Couple things here...

1) I don't believe anything the Chinese government releases whatsoever. I think it's naive to do so, no offense.

2) Americans are far more obese than the Chinese, even in their older ages. Does that not raise the risk factor?

3) Did you not see all of the "morgue" refrigerated trucks in NYC at the peak of this thing? You think those all got placed there and were empty and that this was all a coinspiracy?

You're reaching.

Even still, the reaction has been extremely... ridiculously... disproportionate to the risk. On that we agree.

Nanners
10-04-2020, 08:30 PM
You sound like a Chinese shill buying everything the Chinese communist government tries to sell to its people and the rest of the world. If Xi/CCP said China stood for freedom, liberty, democracy and justice, I bet you would believe him. :hammerhead:

:oldlol:

In order to think that my post was pro-china in any way, you'd have to be so retarded that making jokes about your idiocy is a borderline hate crime...

Nanners
10-04-2020, 08:55 PM
Couple things here...

1) I don't believe anything the Chinese government releases whatsoever. I think it's naive to do so, no offense.

So you think the real numbers are worse then? If thats the case, why not just report the real numbers?

When our lockdowns started here, I recall that much of the hysteria was driven by videos in China where people were allegedly dropping dead in the street, or videos of Chinese health authorities allegedly welding the doors of Wuhan apartments shut, or videos of overflowing Chinese hospitals... and the unprecedented decision China made when they locked down Wuhan/Hubei set the precedent for the insane lockdowns were seeing today.

Anyway, I dont believe anything the Chinese govt releases either, which is why I have always been skeptical of what China has said about the virus, and its also why I was extremely skeptical of all those viral videos that came out of Wuhan. Even if the death rates in China are much higher than officially reported, the fact that Wuhan/Hubei was the only area to receive any lockdown whatsoever is notable.


2) Americans are far more obese than the Chinese, even in their older ages. Does that not raise the risk factor?

Sure obesity is a risk factor. Another risk factor is smoking, and 45% of Chinese are smokers compared to 15% of americans

Air quality is another risk factor that is not in Chinas favor

Access to medical care and/or wealth is another risk factor that should not favor China in a comparison with the US.


3) Did you not see all of the "morgue" refrigerated trucks in NYC at the peak of this thing? You think those all got placed there and were empty and that this was all a coinspiracy?

WTF are you talking about? I am not questioning the death rate in NYC, I am questioning the death rate in China.

Anyway yes I saw those trucks... I also saw the 1000 bed hospital ship that left after it treated 180 patients in 3 weeks, and I saw the central park hospital tent that went largely unused too.


You're reaching.

Even still, the reaction has been extremely... ridiculously... disproportionate to the risk. On that we agree.

glad we can agree on something :cheers:

Cleverness
10-04-2020, 10:44 PM
Mocking COVID was February and March before any lockdown. This has nothing to do with re-opening something that wasn't even closed. At least get your talking points straight, Trumpeter.

Downplaying COVID was February to the last debate on Tuesday, before & during lockdowns. That concerns both before lockdown and during lockdown, so you are partially right on this one.

I'm completely right on this one (again).

For the 100th time, talking shit to the corporate media is not policy and neither is someone's opinion of "downplaying" it to the media.

Trump's policy has always been to follow Fauci and the rest of his Coronavirus Task Force. Luckily he's been able to push back a tiny bit on the pseudoscience & hire someone who follows actual science and data: Dr. Scott Atlas. https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1308904131130781697

Biden is on record wanting to hire Trump's lead Covid-19 task force member (quack Fauci) and go full pseudoscience, Peru-style, straight out of the CCP playbook. Strict, totalitarian lockdown, mandatory masks, and whatever pseudoscientific business regulations his quacks will come up with.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjiE0otU4AA9KUs?format=jpg&name=medium


What's the story here? That Trump downplayed all the doomsday idiots who predicted 20,000,000 Americans would be hospitalized for COVID? His instincts were correct, but Trump completely overreacted to the virus in March by following the quack science of Drs. Fauci/Birx/Adams

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1304029136441282561
Trump saying, in March, he is purposefully trying to give people hope despite Covid being a deadly pandemic.

Dr. Fauci RE Woodward's fake news: https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1303762016151232513
Dr. Fauci says that he never got the sense that President Trump was downplaying COVID-19:

"I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. In my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had."

The fact is he followed Dr. Fauci's lead all year.

February: Dr. Fauci: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/17/nih-disease-official-anthony-fauci-risk-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-is-minuscule-skip-mask-and-wash-hands/4787209002/)

Fauci: Flu a Bigger Risk in the US Than Coronavirus (https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/02/15/disease-expert--flu-a-bigger-risk-in-the-us-than-coronavirus)

February 29th: Dr. Fauci on coronavirus fears: No need to change lifestyle yet (https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci-on-coronavirus-fears-no-need-to-change-lifestyle-yet-79684677616)

March 8th: "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes. (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/health/medical/preventing-coronavirus-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/ar-BB10VE1c)

March 9th: “No reason” not to go on cruise if you’re young and healthy: Fauci (https://globalnews.ca/video/6653403/covid-19-no-reason-not-to-go-on-cruise-if-youre-young-and-healthy-fauci)


Then Fauci did a 180, replaced decades of hard science for pseudoscience, and our politicians caved to media/fear/hysteria and went with draconian lockdowns for 15 days to flatten the curve (which has turned into 2 years of tyranny) http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104037&viewfull=1#post14104037
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?483846-a-vaccine-isn-t-the-end-all-be-all&p=14104041&viewfull=1#post14104041

They predicted between 10 million to 31 million hospitalizations from COVID (LOL). Actual data from CDC so far is approx 0.4 million http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread&p=14103771&viewfull=1#post14103771

Cleverness
10-04-2020, 10:59 PM
Couple things here...

1) I don't believe anything the Chinese government releases whatsoever. I think it's naive to do so, no offense.

2) Americans are far more obese than the Chinese, even in their older ages. Does that not raise the risk factor?

3) Did you not see all of the "morgue" refrigerated trucks in NYC at the peak of this thing? You think those all got placed there and were empty and that this was all a coinspiracy?

You're reaching.

Even still, the reaction has been extremely... ridiculously... disproportionate to the risk. On that we agree.

New York was a disaster for multiple reasons:

-they panicked and followed pseudoscience of the WHO/China by putting too many on ventilators:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/03/covid-death-rates-dropped-doctors-rejected-ventilators/
https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/first-choice-how-china-and-the-who
-Cuomo even demanded more ventilators from the president; he obliged and sent thousands of ventilators that went unused
-Their hospitals are/were complete dogshit
-Cuomo shoved COVID pts into nursing homes
-Though evidence is lacking, there's a suggestion that the strain that hit NY area was deadlier than the one in the rest of the US https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study
-Obesity & diabetes is far more prevalent in the US. We just hit a record for obesity, actually, 42.4% adult obesity https://www.mlive.com/news/2020/09/us-adult-obesity-rate-tops-42-percent-highest-on-record.html#:~:text=According%20to%20State%20of%20 Obesity,by%2026%20percent%20since%202008.
-AND COVID-19 actually killed people there. There was a high susceptible population in NYC and unfortunately those people died and no amount of pseudoscience could have saved them

China:

Do we even know how they classify a COVID-19 death? What is their CT for their PCR tests?
That being said, I actually don't think there is mass death from COVID-19 in China.
If you read all my posts in this thread, or even on this page: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page514 you'll notice that certain areas/populations don't have many deaths at all, regardless of whichever pseudoscience they may have followed.

Great article on the pseudoscience that China has pushed: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/china-covid-lockdown-propaganda

Cleverness
10-04-2020, 11:07 PM
And just to recap (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1288604595107827713.html)

Today is day 202 of 15 days to flatten the curve

Before we switched to pseudoscience, we knew the disease would spread and herd-resistance would develop to it over time

We needed to keep COVID hospitalizations under 10,300,000 to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed

Researchers at IHME, Harvard, Stanford, & Dr. Fauci estimated approximately 10 million to 31 million hospitalizations from COVID over 12 months with a hospitalization rate of 15-40% per infected.

When the hospitals were empty in April and field hospitals were taken down after seeing 0 pts https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients , we knew the rate was ~1%

We're currently at ~0.54 million (inflated) so far per CDC. This includes all the people in the hospital for other reasons, but happen to test positive for COVID as well. See this thread for more information: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20200317.457910/full/


Once again, you've missed the point completely.

I'll repeat: our goal is to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. Our policies were directed towards slowing the spread, not reducing it. Notice how the area under the curve is the same with steps to slow the spread.

If we "could" be overwhelmed with 10 million hospitalizations, there's no f'ing way we're being overwhelmed with 0.29 million.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaU7CzPWsAAoVm3?format=jpg&name=900x900

edit: and just for reference, the 2018 flu hospitalized ~808,000 per CDC and US total hospitalizations is approx 35 million to 37 million per year

edit 2: CDC recently came out with more flu data, estimations between 410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations for the short flu season of 2019-20

Cleverness
10-04-2020, 11:16 PM
LA County hospitals (hardest hit area of California) hasn't even hit baseline Sept 2019 levels all year... quite remarkable for the "greatest health crisis of our lives"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei9BE9sUYAAVBLH?format=jpg&name=900x900

http://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/dhs/1070348_DHSCOVID-19Dashboard.pdf

bladefd
10-05-2020, 12:10 AM
:oldlol:

In order to think that my post was pro-china in any way, you'd have to be so retarded that making jokes about your idiocy is a borderline hate crime...

To believe every number the CCP puts out as truth is foolish. It's a communist police state with internment camps - I mean they banned Winnie the Pooh because it threatened their dear leader for life Xi. We taking every number they put out seriously at face value now?

Patrick Chewing
10-05-2020, 12:23 AM
Herd immunity!

Luka Doncic
10-05-2020, 12:47 PM
So Trump is doing very well and will let us know because he knows first hand about this virus.

Put his life on the line to take an unknown treatment so Americans will sooner get this treatment.

rawimpact
10-05-2020, 02:45 PM
Which one of you Trump cultists is volunteering to pour bleach in his A-Hole?

Why your tongue going in for round two after 2016?

Axe
10-05-2020, 07:20 PM
If they gave him some, then he must be a kind of special child then.

Lakers Legend#32
10-07-2020, 02:39 AM
Herd immunity!

Herd Death

Luka Doncic
10-07-2020, 02:18 PM
Symptom free and he has anti-bodies.

Real Men Wear Green
10-07-2020, 03:23 PM
Symptom free and he has anti-bodies.

And covid. Don't forget the covid.

DoctorP
10-07-2020, 09:11 PM
Erroneous post

bladefd
10-08-2020, 04:05 PM
It was fetal tissue of an aborted baby. Republicans are only against abortion in name, but in practice they are not. They are hypocrites like anyone else.


In June 2019, the Trump administration suspended federal funding for most new scientific research involving fetal tissue derived from abortions.

Mr. Trump last week received Regeneron’s cocktail of monoclonal antibodies. To develop the antibodies, Regeneron relied on 293T, a human cell line once derived from fetal tissue.