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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
10-05-2020, 12:43 AM
And KJ (Jimmy level player) went off for a historic performance..

Oh wait..

It was when Porter and Kersey got hurt..

Nah that's not the one..

How about when Malone and Hornacek got hurt..

Oh hold up..

What about when Kemp and Schrempf got hurt..

Wait..

Anyone knows?

TheGoatest
10-05-2020, 12:45 AM
Remember Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman or Horace Grant getting hurt in 1 single finals game over Jordan's entire career like Kyrie was hurt in 5 out of 6 finals games in 2015 and Kevin love in all 6?

Anyone knows if this happened?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
10-05-2020, 12:46 AM
Remember Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman or Horace Grant getting hurt in 1 single finals game over Jordan's entire career like Kyrie was hurt in 5 out of 6 finals games in 2015 and Kevin love in all 6?

Anyone knows if this happened?

Remember when MJ lost a finals series and wasnt FMVP in a series?

TheGoatest
10-05-2020, 12:49 AM
Remember when MJ lost a finals series and wasnt FMVP in a series?

Remember LeBron having the luxury of shooting 5-19 in a closeout finals game and then lifting Dennis Rodman's Finals MVP trophy after the game was finished?

Anyone remember this event taking place?

3ball
10-05-2020, 01:13 AM
Remember LeBron having the luxury of shooting 5-19 in a closeout finals game and then lifting Dennis Rodman's Finals MVP trophy after the game was finished?

Anyone remember this event taking place?

rodman let kemp go off in game 6, and everyone else let their man go off too

except jordan, who held hawkins to 4 points - this was 12 below his average, which accounted for the 12-point margin of victory (since everyone else let their man go off)

in addition to carrying the defensive load, mj also led the bulls in scoring and assists.. he carried the team while Pippen averaged 15 on 34% for the series

btw, Games 4-6 were garbage time stat-padding, because the series was already decided... mj averaged 31 on 46% when it mattered, to get a 3-0 lead and win the series... otoh, lebron averaged 16 on 39% in the first 3 games of the 13' Finals, which caused the series to go 7... ditto in 16' when he wet the bed for the first 4 games (24 and 6 TO's)

Shooter
10-05-2020, 01:14 AM
Remember LeBron having the luxury of shooting 5-19 in a closeout finals game and then lifting Dennis Rodman's Finals MVP trophy after the game was finished?

Anyone remember this event taking place?


Remember Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman or Horace Grant getting hurt in 1 single finals game over Jordan's entire career like Kyrie was hurt in 5 out of 6 finals games in 2015 and Kevin love in all 6?

Anyone knows if this happened?

/thread

1987_Lakers
10-05-2020, 01:16 AM
And MJ got held to 41% shooting by GP, Obama who is a big Bulls fan even admitted GP put the clamps on him. It was so bad that MJ was in tears after the series because he knew deep down who the real MVP was, Dennis Rodman.

TheGoatest
10-05-2020, 01:22 AM
rodman let kemp go off in game 6, and everyone else let their man go off too

except jordan, who held hawkins to 4 points - this was 12 below his average, which accounted for the 12-point margin of victory (since everyone else let their man go off)

in addition to carrying the defensive load, mj also led the bulls in scoring and assists.. he carried the team while Pippen averaged 15 on 34% for the series

btw, Games 4-6 were garbage time stat-padding, because the series was already decided... mj averaged 31 on 46% when it mattered, to get a 3-0 lead and win the series... otoh, lebron averaged 16 on 39% in the first 3 games of the 13' Finals, which caused the series to go 7... ditto in 16' when he wet the bed for the first 4 games (24 and 6 TO's)

Kemp, who was an All-NBA 2nd team member and not a random role player like Hawkins, was two points below his season average in game 6. And Rodman still set an NBA record with 11 offensive rebounds in a finals game.

Closeout game 6 sorted by FG%:

https://images2.imagebam.com/d8/af/f0/abd3d71355727222.png

:(

At least he shot better than Randy Brown.

And Pippen played better in 91 Finals than Jordan "when it mattered" as well. His defense on Magic was the real MVP of that series.

Bawkish
10-05-2020, 01:22 AM
And MJ got held to 41% shooting by GP, Obama who is a big Bulls fan even admitted GP put the clamps on him. It was so bad that MJ was in tears after the series because he knew deep down who the real MVP was, Dennis Rodman.

The whole Sonics team clamped MJ the entire time, double even triple teamed


https://youtu.be/7WpkXlrJxtw

3ball
10-05-2020, 01:23 AM
And MJ got held to 41% shooting by GP, Obama who is a big Bulls fan even admitted GP put the clamps on him. It was so bad that MJ was in tears after the series because he knew deep down who the real MVP was, Dennis Rodman.

nothing you just said happened, except Obama's troll

no one thinks GP can hold MJ and MJ scored on GP easier than anyone - routinely destroyed him - it's on youtube..

but mj isn't a stat-padder - he isn't aggressive and doesn't care when the series is already decided

here's jordan saying EXACTLY what I just said right before Game 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s

1987_Lakers
10-05-2020, 01:25 AM
The whole Sonics team clamped MJ the entire time, double even triple teamed


https://youtu.be/7WpkXlrJxtw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk

1987_Lakers
10-05-2020, 01:29 AM
Kemp, who was an All-NBA 2nd team member and not a random role player like Hawkins, was two points below his season average in game 6. And Rodman still set an NBA record with 11 offensive rebounds in a finals game.

Closeout game 6 sorted by FG%:

https://images2.imagebam.com/d8/af/f0/abd3d71355727222.png

:(

At least he shot better than Randy Brown.

And Pippen played better in 91 Finals than Jordan "when it mattered" as well. His defense on Magic was the real MVP of that series.

:oldlol:

Bawkish
10-05-2020, 01:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk

a cherry picked version of my clip

all GP did was annoy MJ and end up with a foul, without the help defense GP would get torched the entire series

TheGoatest
10-05-2020, 01:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Seal_of_the_President_of_the_United_States.svg

3ball
10-05-2020, 01:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk

1996 Finals

pippen'.... 15 on 34%
rodman..... 7 on 48%

^^^ so mj was a 1-man team

no one in history had his scoring burden or defensive attention

for example, jordan was doubled on 10 of the 20 times he caught the ball against Payton in Game 4.. see gifs of all the double-teams here (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?386210-MJ-is-the-most-double-teamed-player-of-all-time-besides-Wilt&p=11792377#post11792377)

Shooter
10-05-2020, 02:01 AM
Kemp, who was an All-NBA 2nd team member and not a random role player like Hawkins, was two points below his season average in game 6. And Rodman still set an NBA record with 11 offensive rebounds in a finals game.

Closeout game 6 sorted by FG%:

https://images2.imagebam.com/d8/af/f0/abd3d71355727222.png

:(

At least he shot better than Randy Brown.

And Pippen played better in 91 Finals than Jordan "when it mattered" as well. His defense on Magic was the real MVP of that series.

Ouch

3ball
10-05-2020, 02:28 AM
Kemp, who was an All-NBA 2nd team member and not a random role player like Hawkins, was two points below his season average in game 6. And Rodman still set an NBA record with 11 offensive rebounds in a finals game.



mj was the primary defender on Payton for games 3 and 5 (let me know if you need YouTube links).. he was also the primary defender on Magic, Drexler, and Miller, aka the opponent's top perimeter player

and rodman let kemp dominate the series -kemp got FMVP votes

finally, only mj held his man down in Game 6, so he accounts for the win, as described previously - only mj held his man to 12 points below his average, hence the 12 point win






And Pippen played better in 91 Finals



kyrie, wade, AD, and Hughes all had better Finals than Lebron



https://images2.imagebam.com/d8/af/f0/abd3d71355727222.png[/IMG]




who cares - jordan was the best Bulls player in Game 6 (led in scoring, assists and defense) and he'd already won the series in the first 3 games

finally, lebron shot worse in 3 Finals than MJ ever did 97', 15' and 13'... in 13', his TS was woat)

TheGoatest
10-05-2020, 03:19 AM
who cares

People who like to discuss basketball objectively care, that's who. They care about Jordan being carried to a championship despite shooting 5-19 in a closeout game.
Jordan = exposed
0 playoff series wins until Pippen entered the league
0 championships until Pippen entered his prime
1993-94 Bulls Pippen came way closer to a championship than pre-Pippen Bulls Jordan
1999-00 Blazers Pippen came way closer to a championship than post-Pippen Wizards Jordan
Jordan = exposed

SATAN
10-05-2020, 03:48 AM
Kemp, who was an All-NBA 2nd team member and not a random role player like Hawkins, was two points below his season average in game 6. And Rodman still set an NBA record with 11 offensive rebounds in a finals game.

Closeout game 6 sorted by FG%:

https://images2.imagebam.com/d8/af/f0/abd3d71355727222.png

:(

At least he shot better than Randy Brown.

And Pippen played better in 91 Finals than Jordan "when it mattered" as well. His defense on Magic was the real MVP of that series.

:milton