Conspiracy Chart

[DoctorP]

https://i.redd.it/e1ad9qksvyq51.jpg

[~primetime~]

This is accurate. Some of these really you just have to be dumb as shit to believe in. If you think the Earth is hollow or flat then holy fck. If you think there are nazis on the moon then you are an absolute moron.

Some of these I've never heard...Finland doesn't exist???:lol

[Cleverness]

The idea that we need to give money and power to Gavin Newsom to save the planet from climate = hoax

"Epstein didn't kill himself" seems entirely possible

And of course, the idea that Trump's Coronavirus Team (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485046-How-many-lives-has-Trump-s-Coronavirus-Team-saved) is saving millions of lives by following Chinese (CCP) pseudoscience (https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/china-covid-lockdown-propaganda) is a also a hoax

[~primetime~]

Epstein didn't kill himself is basically in the green

The highest one I have on that chart is "alien abductions" which I think is 'possible' but probably unlikely. Everything else in the pink is a no for me.

The "Beatles never existed"? WTF :oldlol:


I will say I have seen "Deep State" used extremely loose to the point it's not that extreme...but I've also seen it used in retarded Illuminati ways too..."Deep State" is a pretty big spectrum that ranges from simple conspiracy within the Gov to all of this back and forth that the Dems and GOP have is one big staged act to trick us.

[ZenMaster]

George Soros is a conspiracy theory? And If I believe in him, I also(usually) believe in the world being flat and hollow at the same time as there's a slave colony on mars while the holocaust never happened?

lol

[Cleverness]

Add herd-resistance/immunity deniers & move flat-Earthers from "antisemitic" to science denial. Put them right next to each other.

[Manny98]

https://mobile.twitter.com/yellowcube7/status/1314109390576705536?prefetchtimestamp=160217974576 8

[starface]

:oldlol:

This reads like shameless DNC propaganda to make people who investigate them seem like wackos.

Soros interference/manipulation is in the bright red “detached from reality” zone, but ALIENS crash landing on Earth is a maybe?? :roll:


And right on cue, primetime weighs in with “Most of these are def impossible. Altho I kinda believe the aliens one...”

:yaohappy:

[~primetime~]

And right on cue, primetime weighs in with “Most of these are def impossible. Altho I kinda believe the aliens one...”

yeah...most of those definitely are impossible...and yeah I 'kinda' believe in ufos/aliens...you read it right :applause:

how many in the red to you buy into starface?...Soros obviously...some of those up there require alien belief so they're out I guess...but which ones you got?

[Doomsday Dallas]

if MK Ultra really happened... what else has really happened since then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra


The operation was officially sanctioned in 1953, reduced in scope in 1964 and further curtailed in 1967. It was officially halted in 1973. The program also engaged in illegal activities, including the use of U.S. and Canadian citizens as its unwitting test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy.] MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate its subjects' mental states and brain functions. Techniques included the covert administration of high doses of psychoactive drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, electroshocks, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as other forms of torture


seems foolish to think MK Ultra is one of the few unethical practices the government is guilty of... surely the rabbit hole goes a little deeper.

and subliminal messages in children's TV programs have pretty much been confirmed.

The Illuminati is fact, not fiction...

government made diseases.... I don't see why that is so ridiculous.

..... to be continued.

[Patrick Chewing]

:oldlol:

This reads like shameless DNC propaganda to make people who investigate them seem like wackos.

Soros interference/manipulation is in the bright red “detached from reality” zone, but ALIENS crash landing on Earth is a maybe?? :roll:


And right on cue, primetime weighs in with “Most of these are def impossible. Altho I kinda believe the aliens one...”

:yaohappy:


Some hippie Leftist definitely came up with this.

[starface]

yeah...most of those definitely are impossible...and yeah I 'kinda' believe in ufos/aliens...you read it right :applause:

how many in the red to you buy into starface?...Soros obviously...some of those up there require alien belief so they're out I guess...but which ones you got?


I don't follow/research conspiracies as a general habit, however I do believe Congress having a low key pedophilia ring is far more likely than the presence of stranded alien space crafts on Earth. Call me crazy.

The chart says "We have questions" about Princess Diana's death (not sure what conspiracy that refers to) but if you believe George Soros uses his billions to breed social division he can profit from, you're off the deep end?

I don't personally know or care about Obama's birth certificate, but to literally put ALIEN ABDUCTION as more probable than a powerful politician obtaining a doctored birth certificate... just lol.

Also how is "soyboy" a conspiracy? Aren't there studies linking soy consumption to increased estrogen? We'd have to ask ItsMillerTime. It's not even something that I care about, and obviously the idea is exaggerated for meme effect, but how is that a 'conspiracy?' They just hate being called soyboys.


This chart is all about lumping PLAUSIBLE acts in with stuff that's completely outrageous, in order to intimidate guys like you from believing any of it. You can't see that? You don't think this is clearly partisan, agenda-driven propaganda?

It was apparently made by some nerdy jewish girl in New York named Abbie Richards. Just like you let your wife tell you what to believe, you're letting some random girl tell you what to believe. That's your MO. You dont know much, youre not sure what to think, you just let women decide for you since it's all the same to you anyhow. That's basically the definition of what a beta IS.

Or better yet... a "soyboy."

[starface]

if MK Ultra really happened... what else has really happened since then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra




seems foolish to think MK Ultra is one of the few unethical practices the government is guilty of... surely the rabbit hole goes a little deeper.

and subliminal messages in children's TV programs have pretty much been confirmed.

The Illuminati is fact, not fiction...

government made diseases.... I don't see why that is so ridiculous.

..... to be continued.

They put "Tuskeegee" in the DEFINITELY group (which it is) but "government made diseases" (which I doubt but it's not ludicrous) in the "OMG NO WAY" group. Doesnt even make sense.

[~primetime~]

I don't know the soy boy conspiracy...many up there are new to me. But I am somewhat familiar with what that chart is getting at...the humans that are entrenched in that red area and who dwell on it daily are absolutely 'detached from reality'. They use conspiracy in the same fashion that a drug addict uses drugs...it is an escape from reality for them...a place where they don't have to worry about their real lives because 'the world is a lie ruled by lizard satanists!'...and I do think it is spot on in saying that the people who buy into one of those up there, usually buy into 'most' of them.

Some of those are more subjective than others, and placement can be argued...I already mentioned I think 'deep state' is a subjective term...but the overall gist of what is being shown here is on par I think. If you don't have a 'habit' of following this stuff like you claim, then I don't think any of this is directed at you....this is for the people who are out ripping down 5G towers.

[~primetime~]

Also note worthy here I think...the red crowd used to lean left in the Bush Jr days...where he and the entire GOP where a satanic cult plotting out 9/11

conspiracy only became a right thing as of Trump times

[starface]

I don't know the soy boy conspiracy...many up there are new to me. But I am somewhat familiar with what that chart is getting at...the humans that are entrenched in that red area and who dwell on it daily are absolutely 'detached from reality'. They use conspiracy in the same fashion that a drug addict uses drugs...it is an escape from reality for them...a place where they don't have to worry about their real lives because 'the world is a lie ruled by lizard satanists!'...and I do think it is spot on in saying that the people who buy into one of those up there, usually buy into 'most' of them.

Some of those are more subjective than others, and placement can be argued...I already mentioned I think 'deep state' is a subjective term...but the overall gist of what is being shown here is on par I think. If you don't have a 'habit' of following this stuff like you claim, then I don't think any of this is directed at you....this is for the people who are out ripping down 5G towers.


The chart equates the possibility of Antifa nutjobs starting wildfires, with believing in "World controlled by elite shadow lizard people."

And you're telling me that if you give credence to one of those notions, you probably believe the other?

[starface]

Also note worthy here I think...the red crowd used to lean left in the Bush Jr days...where he and the entire GOP where a satanic cult plotting out 9/11

conspiracy only became a right thing as of Trump times


You mean Obama... right?

[~primetime~]

Dooms, where you right or left during Obama days? :lol


honestly feel like Obama was a bit of a break from conspiracy...but maybe the switch over did evolve during then

[starface]

Dooms, where you right or left during Obama days? :lol


honestly feel like Obama was a bit of a break from conspiracy...but maybe the switch over did evolve during then


Pretty sure people believed Soros was funding nefarious agendas long before Trump.

Pretty sure Obama being a reptilian satanist with a fake birth certificate developed as a conspiracy when Obama became President, not when Trump did.

I think Elders of Zion and Holocaust denying pre-date Donald Trump by quite a long time.

But I guess you see it differently.

But it’s nice that youre objective about these things.

[starface]

“Riots became a thing bc Trump!”
What about Watts? What about Ferguson!?
“Oh, umm... yeah but Orange Man is worse!”

“Holocaust denying started with a Trump tweet!”
What the FVCK?
“I mean I dunno... but Orange Man is still bad”

:facepalm


One thing we know ISNT a conspiracy: TDS

[~primetime~]

you're obviously hyper-focused on the left-right aspect of this...but to me that is a side note here

In fact I don't even think this really should be in the politics forum...I guess some of those listed are political in nature but if you think the Earth is flat, that transcends politics to me :lol

[Doomsday Dallas]

Dooms, where you right or left during Obama days? :lol


honestly feel like Obama was a bit of a break from conspiracy...but maybe the switch over did evolve during then

Ron Paul

https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/us2012.png

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-both-sides-of-the-political-spectrum-must-one-day-realize-that-limitless-government-ron-paul-140-95-57.jpg

[~primetime~]

you were huge on Ron Paul...forgot about that

okay

[starface]

you're obviously hyper-focused on the left-right aspect of this...but to me that is a side note here

In fact I don't even think this really should be in the politics forum...I guess some of those listed are political in nature but if you think the Earth is flat, that transcends politics to me :lol


You stated something completely asinine, which is that right wing conspiracies became a thing when Trump became President.

Why dont you just admit that was stupid as shit, instead of making excuses?

Just say “Yeah, TDS got the better of me there. Didnt think that one thru.”

Bro we’re all human. We’re not perfect. We make mistakes. We rush to conclusions.

Just admit you went full retard, instead of saying I’M the one focused on right-left after you tried blaming the existence of conspiracy theory on Donald Trump.

Be sincere bro.

Just own it. You went full TDS. It happens to many folks like you.

Just own it.

[~primetime~]

I didn't say that at all...I said the red crowd switch over to the right during the Trump era...a lot of those have existed for a long time, way before Trump...ask Dooms


meh...too late...you're already in "TDS!!! TDS!!!TDS!!!TDS!!!" mode

[starface]

Also note worthy here I think...the red crowd used to lean left in the Bush Jr days...where he and the entire GOP where a satanic cult plotting out 9/11

conspiracy only became a right thing as of Trump times


Why not just admit to yourself youre a soyboy with a 20 IQ, and then work to improve from there?

I dont understand this mentality of stubbornly insisting on remaining ignorant, just to spite others.

Why not grow a little?

[~primetime~]

yeah you are misreading that...I wasn't saying it didn't exist pre-Trump...I'm saying they used to lean left during Bush Jr...read the sentence above :facepalm

[~primetime~]

You can probably dig up a lot of Dooms debates in here from the Bush Jr days where he and all the other conspiracy guys were lefties

and I was arguing against it then too...

[Patrick Chewing]

You stated something completely asinine, which is that right wing conspiracies became a thing when Trump became President.

Why dont you just admit that was stupid as shit, instead of making excuses?

Just say “Yeah, TDS got the better of me there. Didnt think that one thru.”

Bro we’re all human. We’re not perfect. We make mistakes. We rush to conclusions.

Just admit you went full retard, instead of saying I’M the one focused on right-left after you tried blaming the existence of conspiracy theory on Donald Trump.

Be sincere bro.

Just own it. You went full TDS. It happens to many folks like you.

Just own it.

Great advice. Poor bastard needs a lot of help.

[DoctorP]

The whole fallacy that a person that ponders conspiracies is inclined to be in a certain political party is asinine.

[SATAN]

Jesus Christ you guys are morons :oldlol:

[ZenMaster]

You can probably dig up a lot of Dooms debates in here from the Bush Jr days where he and all the other conspiracy guys were lefties

and I was arguing against it then too...

The conspiracy theory back then being that there were no WMDs in Iraq, and that all those satellite photos they put up in press conferences didn't show anything? Yeah you were wrong about that too.

If you want to argue against the conspiracy today, you're welcome over here http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485710-Declassified-docs-show-CIA-briefed-Obama-on-Hillary-s-plan-to-link-Trump-to-Russia where we're discussing recently released hand written notes by John Brennan, used to brief Obama on the Hillary campaign had approving a plan to stir up a Russian interference scandal.

[Overdrive]

Soros interference/manipulation is in the bright red “detached from reality” zone, but ALIENS crash landing on Earth is a maybe?? :roll:

I usually tune out when someone starts to namedrop Soro as some shadow government world leader figure. Most of these people who cite that over here are extremly stubborn hardcore rightwingers. Notsome conservatives like you guys, but real hardcore Nazis who wish for a Führer reincarnation. I see no use in talking to such people, because nothing good will come out from it.

That said. Soros is an existing person. There's no single proof for aliens to exist in our universe, so how can anything about Soros be less likely than anything alienrelated? If Soros being a south east asian dragqueen having 3 balls, but no dick, who keeps himself alive by sucking poop out of elephants' asses would be a conspiracy theory it would be more likely than anything alienrelated.

And I say this while firmly believing extra terestial life exists(just no interference with our lives and planet).

[~primetime~]

It's just in relation to the conspiracy that Soros funded the riots.

And I'm sure that conspiracy ranges from him putting some bricks out all the way to him being a Satanic lizard overlord who's controlling everything.

[starface]

I usually tune out when someone starts to namedrop Soro as some shadow government world leader figure. Most of these people who cite that over here are extremly stubborn hardcore rightwingers. Notsome conservatives like you guys, but real hardcore Nazis who wish for a Führer reincarnation. I see no use in talking to such people, because nothing good will come out from it.

That said. Soros is an existing person. There's no single proof for aliens to exist in our universe, so how can anything about Soros be less likely than anything alienrelated? If Soros being a south east asian dragqueen having 3 balls, but no dick, who keeps himself alive by sucking poop out of elephants' asses would be a conspiracy theory it would be more likely than anything alienrelated.

And I say this while firmly believing extra terestial life exists(just no interference with our lives and planet).


So youre a fervent anti-capitalist, but you refuse to hear anything bad about Soros bc it might come from a Nazi?

Do you know anything ABOUT Soros?

Lets take a look at some input from Paul Krugman.


In 1999, economist Paul Krugman was critical of Soros's effect on financial markets.

Nobody who has read a business magazine in the last few years can be unaware that these days there really are investors who not only move money in anticipation of a currency crisis, but actually do their best to trigger that crisis for fun and profit. These new actors on the scene do not yet have a standard name; my proposed term is 'Soroi'.[78]

If you think Paul KRUGMAN is a “zomg, big bad Nazi”... :facepalm


Thats the whole problem with society. People dont think proactively, they think reactively. If a klan member says the sky is blue, the media will say it isnt blue, only klan members think its blue, and you and millertime and bladefd and highehey will all be shrieking about how “sky is blue” is a code word among white supremacists. They have to invent simplistic dividing lines between good and bad and always keep on whatever side the media goads them into believing is “good.”

Soros is the shadiest guy in world finance. UNEQUIVOCALLY. And self proclaimed communist/leftists/socialists etc... in other words people who hate rich people and capitalism the most... DEFEND him because... he’s jewish and a democrat? And they would rather stick it to an irrelevant skin head somewhere in montana than actually investigate the reach of an unscrupulous multi billionaire.

Do you understand how INSANE that is??

That tells you about the petty, backward, retarded priorities of the average dupe.

It’s unreal. Feel like Im in a dream tbh.

[ZenMaster]

It's just in relation to the conspiracy that Soros funded the riots.

And I'm sure that conspiracy ranges from him putting some bricks out all the way to him being a Satanic lizard overlord who's controlling everything.

Exactly, and kind of similar, it's crazy to think Soros would be funding AG's across the country to try and change how laws are enforced in certain areas, even though the documentation is there showing that this has already happened.

It's the same with people who think there was a coup attempt against Trump, it's ****ing crazy that people would say that an angel like Obama would be part of something like that. Yet, some way some how, hand written John Brennan notes apparently exists, that he used to brief Obama about the Hillary campaign having approved a strategy to stir up a Russian interference scandal: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485710-Declassified-docs-show-CIA-briefed-Obama-on-Hillary-s-plan-to-link-Trump-to-Russia crazy..

And rumor around Twitter is that the guy who came up with that suggestion was Jake Sullivan, the Chief Foreign Policy Advisor to Hillary during the campaign(was also her aid when she was Secretary of State), who's now an advisor to Joe Biden and also worked with him in 2013.

But hey, as per the chart, unless the earth is flat, these things apparently can't be true.

The chart is ridiculous. It's made for people to feel bad about themselves, e.g if you believe anything about Soros, you either are or will become a person who thinks earth is hollow. In the same way, it also works the other direction, enabling an easy way for people to ridicule people who apparently believe someone like Soros does anything coordinated to create chaos.
"Oh look, if you believe in George Soros, you must be one of those flat earth alien lizard believer type".

[Overdrive]

So youre a fervent anti-capitalist, but you refuse to hear anything bad about Soros bc it might come from a Nazi?

Do you know anything ABOUT Soros?

Lets take a look at some input from Paul Krugman.



If you think Paul KRUGMAN is a “zomg, big bad Nazi”... :facepalm


Thats the whole problem with society. People dont think proactively, they think reactively. If a klan member says the sky is blue, the media will say it isnt blue, only klan members think its blue, and you and millertime and bladefd and highehey will all be shrieking about how “sky is blue” is a code word among white supremacists. They have to invent simplistic dividing lines between good and bad and always keep on whatever side the media goads them into believing is “good.”

Soros is the shadiest guy in world finance. UNEQUIVOCALLY. And self proclaimed communist/leftists/socialists etc... in other words people who hate rich people and capitalism the most... DEFEND him because... he’s jewish and a democrat? And they would rather stick it to an irrelevant skin head somewhere in montana than actually investigate the reach of an unscrupulous multi billionaire.

Do you understand how INSANE that is??

That tells you about the petty, backward, retarded priorities of the average dupe.

It’s unreal. Feel like Im in a dream tbh.

Arguing with you is the most useless thing ever. You read like half an sentence and then you start typing away. There's no problem with critizing Soros. Most people _over here_ will just namedrop him and cite the usual antisemitic BS.

I'm not anti capitalist. I'm anti unchecked capitalism. Take notes if you can't stop throwing the same bullshit at me every post. Also read further I actually agreed with you. But that was beyond your attention span already.

[starface]

Exactly, and kind of similar, it's crazy to think Soros would be funding AG's across the country to try and change how laws are enforced in certain areas, even though the documentation is there showing that this has already happened.

It's the same with people who think there was a coup attempt against Trump, it's ****ing crazy that people would say that an angel like Obama would be part of something like that. Yet, some way some how, hand written John Brennan notes apparently exists, that he used to brief Obama about the Hillary campaign having approved a strategy to stir up a Russian interference scandal: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485710-Declassified-docs-show-CIA-briefed-Obama-on-Hillary-s-plan-to-link-Trump-to-Russia crazy..

And rumor around Twitter is that the guy who came up with that suggestion was Jake Sullivan, the Chief Foreign Policy Advisor to Hillary during the campaign(was also her aid when she was Secretary of State), who's now an advisor to Joe Biden and also worked with him in 2013.

But hey, as per the chart, unless the earth is flat, these things apparently can't be true.

The chart is ridiculous. It's made for people to feel bad about themselves, e.g if you believe anything about Soros, you either are or will become a person who thinks earth is hollow. In the same way, it also works the other direction, enabling an easy way for people to ridicule people who apparently believe someone like Soros does anything coordinated to create chaos.
"Oh look, if you believe in George Soros, you must be one of those flat earth alien lizard believer type".


The big issue primetime and a lot of the ordinary folks like him have... is they can't call out the leaders on BOTH sides... because then who is going to lead? He aint built for it. That's a fact.

There are others of us who dont especially WANT to lead, but we know we could. At the very least, we can lead ourselves. Which is why we'll challenge establishments of any ilk. We're gonna call BS coming from any direction.

But the people who are scared to lead, because they arent build for that mental game... which is MOST humans, simply put... they have to acquiesce to one side or another, and turn a blind eye continuously, because if they call out and clear out the whole dang lot... then they're the ones in charge. And most people are TERRIFIED of leadership.

I mean imagine primetime leading the ISH collective in creating some kind of framework of self governance. Imagine him leading his neighborhood, or his city, or his state.

He's a nice guy but he isnt built for that.

So he picks a side. Well, more accurately, he picks the side his wife tells him to. Most Democrats are beta males acquiescing by default to females, who tend to take a more emotional view of politics.



Hashtag.... #Truthbombz!

[Overdrive]

The big issue primetime and a lot of the ordinary folks like him have... is they can't call out the leaders on BOTH sides... because then who is going to lead? He aint built for it. That's a fact.

There are others of us who dont especially WANT to lead, but we know we could. At the very least, we can lead ourselves. Which is why we'll challenge establishments of any ilk. We're gonna call BS coming from any direction.

But the people who are scared to lead, because they arent build for that mental game... which is MOST humans, simply put... they have to acquiesce to one side or another, and turn a blind eye continuously, because if they call out and clear out the whole dang lot... then they're the ones in charge. And most people are TERRIFIED of leadership.

I mean imagine primetime leading the ISH collective in creating some kind of framework of self governance. Imagine him leading his neighborhood, or his city, or his state.

He's a nice guy but he isnt built for that.

So he picks a side. Well, more accurately, he picks the side his wife tells him to. Most Democrats are beta males acquiescing by default to females, who tend to take a more emotional view of politics.



Hashtag.... #Truthbombz!

Your sucking Trump's knob 24/7 and tell others they can't critize "their" side, while I for example stopped voting for the parties I voted for in the past the moment I felt they turned into BS spewing idiots.

[starface]

Arguing with you is the most useless thing ever. You read like half an sentence and then you start typing away. There's no problem with critizing Soros. Most people _over here_ will just namedrop him and cite the usual antisemitic BS.

I'm not anti capitalist. I'm anti unchecked capitalism. Take notes if you can't stop throwing the same bullshit at me every post. Also read further I actually agreed with you. But that was beyond your attention span already.

Let's take another look at your post.


I usually tune out when someone starts to namedrop Soro as some shadow government world leader figure. Most of these people who cite that over here are extremly stubborn hardcore rightwingers. Notsome conservatives like you guys, but real hardcore Nazis who wish for a Führer reincarnation. I see no use in talking to such people, because nothing good will come out from it.

That said. Soros is an existing person. There's no single proof for aliens to exist in our universe, so how can anything about Soros be less likely than anything alienrelated? If Soros being a south east asian dragqueen having 3 balls, but no dick, who keeps himself alive by sucking poop out of elephants' asses would be a conspiracy theory it would be more likely than anything alienrelated.

And I say this while firmly believing extra terestial life exists(just no interference with our lives and planet).


You did not concede anything ABOUT Soros other than he is a person who is documented as existing. Therefore the potential he is deeply corrupt is TECHNICALLY more plausible than the presence of aliens from outer space. That is what you have conceded.

You also mentioned that you won't actually engage anyone on the subject of Soros' nefarious social interference where you live, because it's likely to be a nazi. Okay. And for some reason, you... aren't allowed to talk to Nazis? Personally, if someone wants to engage me on something that is genuinely pertinent to our mutual social interest, I would rather discuss the topic than screen them for possible political affiliation.

Like, all you said in your post was that technically it has to be more scientifically plausible that Soros is corrupt than that aliens crashed into Earth. And even then you seemed to be hedging on the extremely technical Soros criticism, by assuring us that you dont affiliate with Nazis.

[Overdrive]

Let's take another look at your post.




You did not concede anything ABOUT Soros other than he is a person who is documented as existing. Therefore the potential he is deeply corrupt is TECHNICALLY more plausible than the presence of aliens from outer space. That is what you have conceded.

You also mentioned that you won't actually engage anyone on the subject of Soros' nefarious social interference where you live, because it's likely to be a nazi. Okay. And for some reason, you... aren't allowed to talk to Nazis? Personally, if someone wants to engage me on something that is genuinely pertinent to our mutual social interest, I would rather discuss the topic than screen them for possible political affiliation.

Like, all you said in your post was that technically it has to be more scientifically plausible that Soros is corrupt than that aliens crashed into Earth. And even then you seemed to be hedging on the extremely technical Soros criticism, by assuring us that you dont affiliate with Nazis.

Not likely to be. There's no interest in Soros outside of a fascistoid antisemitc bubble here. He isn't such a big public figure like in the US. Of course I don't engage in activites with such people as they're diametrically opposed to my world views and there's no use in trying to convince such people. Even if we have the same "enemies".

Those people are hardliners and time is to precious to engage with such people IRL. This forum is different, because there's no drawback. If I had enough I can log off. Try that in some bar if shit gets tense.

[starface]

Your sucking Trump's knob 24/7 and tell others they can't critize "their" side, while I for example stopped voting for the parties I voted for in the past the moment I felt they turned into BS spewing idiots.

This is simply wrong. I called out Trump for stoking the national anthem fires. I've bemoaned his bible photo-ops as obvious pandering.

Other than that... the problem hasn't been Trump's policies. Of course it'd be great if he could simply wave a wand and cure all banking/financial ills the way falc39 seems to think a President can realistically do with no cooperation from anyone in government, but for the most part Trump hasn't done wrong by the office. It's the base, idiot public, who ALLOW themselves to be put into hysterics and divided over political correctness that are the rue of the country, because theyre neurotic and insecure and need that line in the sand that says Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad. Otherwise known as "Hate Orange Man Good, Orange Man Bad." Look at ItsMillerTime. A complete know-nothing who doesnt even understand politics, yet is emotionally CONSUMED with bilious hatred for a politician, simply because he feels it validates and secures his acceptance with the left wing masses.

Anything that Trump does that's a problem, I'll take him to task. But he legitimately, genuinely, OBJECTIVELY has not been the problem the typical lesser intellect thinks he has.

[Overdrive]

This is simply wrong. I called out Trump for stoking the national anthem fires. I've bemoaned his bible photo-ops as obvious pandering.

Other than that... the problem hasn't been Trump's policies. Of course it'd be great if he could simply wave a wand and cure all banking/financial ills the way falc39 seems to think a President can realistically do with no cooperation from anyone in government, but for the most part Trump hasn't done wrong by the office. It's the base, idiot public, who ALLOW themselves to be put into hysterics and divided over political correctness that are the rue of the country, because theyre neurotic and insecure and need that line in the sand that says Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad. Otherwise known as "Hate Orange Man Good, Orange Man Bad." Look at ItsMillerTime. A complete know-nothing who doesnt even understand politics, yet is emotionally CONSUMED with bilious hatred for a politician, simply because he feels it validates and secures his acceptance with the left wing masses.

Anything that Trump does that's a problem, I'll take him to task. But he legitimately, genuinely, OBJECTIVELY has not been the problem the typical lesser intellect thinks he has.

Havent witnessed you criticizing him, but I'll accept it for the truth. Can't read everything and I don't like most american leftists here. They're deep into the dem's asses and don't see that they're just the urban version of the GOP, puppets for the same masters.

Trump is a tough case. Not as bad policy wise in certain areas than he's made out to be, but he's not a forward thinker either, but neither were Obama, Bush or Clinton. People have to accept no matter who's the president it's a top bureaucrat using fitting words to their respective crowd. Not some fn messiah.

[ZenMaster]

Not likely to be. There's no interest in Soros outside of a fascistoid antisemitc bubble here. He isn't such a big public figure like in the US. Of course I don't engage in activites with such people as they're diametrically opposed to my world views and there's no use in trying to convince such people. Even if we have the same "enemies".

Those people are hardliners and time is to precious to engage with such people IRL. This forum is different, because there's no drawback. If I had enough I can log off. Try that in some bar if shit gets tense.

He isn't a big public figure in the US either. His organization is real though and it doesn't matter who you think he is because "there's no interest in him" where you are, the organization is still real and he's been focusing on change in the US since 2003.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/soros-pulling-out-of-russia-to-focus-on-u.s

[starface]

Not likely to be. There's no interest in Soros outside of a fascistoid antisemitc bubble here. He isn't such a big public figure like in the US. Of course I don't engage in activites with such people as they're diametrically opposed to my world views and there's no use in trying to convince such people. Even if we have the same "enemies".

Those people are hardliners and time is to precious to engage with such people IRL. This forum is different, because there's no drawback. If I had enough I can log off. Try that in some bar if shit gets tense.


Non-sequitur.

Trying to convince them of what?

They already believe Soros is manipulating society, in ways that YOU YOURSELF WOULD AGREE IS DETRIMENTAL. Nobody has to be convinced of anything. If there's evidence he does this - which there is - then you aren't investing any time in 'convincing someone' of it. You would be cooperating with other people on stopping it. And you could still disagree with them on any number of other issues.

It seems you're simply letting a social divide in political affiliations dictate your own political priorities. You're afraid to be seen as "in league" with this or that group. That's the whole crux of the division a guy like him wants to exploit. Soros can hide behind a facade of being "progressive" not to mention playing the "criticizing me is anti semitic" card, and anyone who doesnt wanna be called a Nazi will give him carte blanche.

[DoctorP]

Non-sequitur.

Trying to convince them of what?

They already believe Soros is manipulating society, in ways that YOU YOURSELF WOULD AGREE IS DETRIMENTAL. Nobody has to be convinced of anything. If there's evidence he does this - which there is - then you aren't investing any time in 'convincing someone' of it. You would be cooperating with other people on stopping it. And you could still disagree with them on any number of other issues.

Youve completely proven my point. You will let a social divide in political affiliations dictate your own political priorities. You're afraid to be seen as "in league" with this or that group.

It probably has more to do with people (im guilty of it myself) trying to connect Soros to every conspiracy without evidence. Its a thing.

[n00bie]

Only thing I dont agree on is the Illuminati. It's obvious that the world is controlled by a handful of people. They might not be called the illuminati but they exist.

[DoctorP]

Only thing I dont agree on is the Illuminati. It's obvious that the world is controlled by a handful of people. They might not be called the illuminati but they exist.

Sure, the top industrialist regimes. But its probably not as organized as it possibly could be. They may or may not be in cahoots with each other and may compete. For covid it seems some joined together to help the cause which was refreshing to see.

[starface]

Sure, the top industrialist regimes. But its probably not as organized as it possibly could be. They may or may not be in cahoots with each other and may compete. For covid it seems some joined together to help the cause which was refreshing to see.


People at the top will always work together to secure their mutual interests; in other words, staying on top. But ofc they do have genuine conflict among each other at times as well.

The whole key for them is to make sure the everyday plebs stay conflicted over everything, and never worn together to pursue whats in their mutual interest.

[SATAN]

Yeah and you never fell for it at all :roll:

:facepalm

[Overdrive]

He isn't a big public figure in the US either. His organization is real though and it doesn't matter who you think he is because "there's no interest in him" where you are, the organization is still real and he's been focusing on change in the US since 2003.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/soros-pulling-out-of-russia-to-focus-on-u.s

Alright, aside from Orban calling him a shadow government instigator and the afforementioned fascists all I ever see him brought up by are american sources, so I assumed he's a thing over there, but tbh my view is warped by manly posting here and using different news outlets.


Non-sequitur.

Trying to convince them of what?

They already believe Soros is manipulating society, in ways that YOU YOURSELF WOULD AGREE IS DETRIMENTAL. Nobody has to be convinced of anything. If there's evidence he does this - which there is - then you aren't investing any time in 'convincing someone' of it. You would be cooperating with other people on stopping it. And you could still disagree with them on any number of other issues.

It seems you're simply letting a social divide in political affiliations dictate your own political priorities. You're afraid to be seen as "in league" with this or that group. That's the whole crux of the division a guy like him wants to exploit. Soros can hide behind a facade of being "progressive" not to mention playing the "criticizing me is anti semitic" card, and anyone who doesnt wanna be called a Nazi will give him carte blanche.

You got that in reverse. They're not Nazis for calling him a dubious figure, but he's a proxy for their jewish world conspiracy theories, when infact 99,x% jews are ordinary people just like you and me. These people hate on them due to their ideology and Soros gives them a non-abstract image of their "enemy". They don't hate him for being a influental billionaire. They wouldn't give a **** if he was a german doing the same things. That's the part where I don't wanna get into an argument with such people. We may view billionaires influencing governments as detrimental for society, but it's for a total different reason.

It's not because I don't want to be seen in league with them, it's because I simply don't share their world views - it's not a social divide. These nazi hardliners, even if they're ordinary people with extreme views, are a problem. They're the people depending on level of conviction who made 1933-1945 happen and later acted like they never were part of it. It's an ideology that's still deeply rooted within some people here and never really died. Also they're at any level. From poor drunkards in bars to top management.

[ZenMaster]

Alright, aside from Orban calling him a shadow government instigator and the afforementioned fascists all I ever see him brought up by are american sources, so I assumed he's a thing over there, but tbh my view is warped by manly posting here and using different news outlets.



You got that in reverse. They're not Nazis for calling him a dubious figure, but he's a proxy for their jewish world conspiracy theories, when infact 99,x% jews are ordinary people just like you and me. These people hate on them due to their ideology and Soros gives them a non-abstract image of their "enemy". They don't hate him for being a influental billionaire. They wouldn't give a **** if he was a german doing the same things. That's the part where I don't wanna get into an argument with such people. We may view billionaires influencing governments as detrimental for society, but it's for a total different reason.

It's not because I don't want to be seen in league with them, it's because I simply don't share their world views - it's not a social divide. These nazi hardliners, even if they're ordinary people with extreme views, are a problem. They're the people depending on level of conviction who made 1933-1945 happen and later acted like they never were part of it. It's an ideology that's still deeply rooted within some people here and never really died. Also they're at any level. From poor drunkards in bars to top management.

He is an instigator who through his money affect what happens around us. He's just not a big public figure, the evidence in this thread coming from the OP who's posted a chart, where his name functions as conspiracy theory equal to thinking the world is flat.


Here's a look at one of the ways he does it. It's been what you could consider a conspiracy theory for the last few years that the way criminals are charged would start to change in certain areas across the country, but now, it's something that has in fact happened.

2016: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...-reform-227519

2018: https://www.latimes.com/local/califo...523-story.html


The effort is part of a years-long campaign by liberal groups to reshape the nation’s criminal justice system. New York billionaire George Soros headlines a consortium of private funders, the American Civil Liberties Union and other social justice groups and Democratic activists targeting four of the 56 district attorney positions up for election on June 5. Five other California candidates are receiving lesser support.

The cash infusion in the nonpartisan elections turns underdog challengers into contenders for one of the most powerful positions in local justice systems, roiling conventional law-and-order politics.


Phillips credits Soros’ team for scripting and paying for his television ad. Fundraising help came from a senior advisor to Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign, now at the helm of Real Justice, a political action committee with a mission to “fix our broken justice system” that is underwritten by Cari Tuna, the wife of Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz. Other national advocates and philanthropists provide writing services and media coaching.
At the same time, Black Lives Matter activists were holding near-daily protests on the doorstep of Phillips’ opponent, career prosecutor Anne Marie Schubert. They demanded Schubert press charges against officers who earlier this year, searching for a burglary suspect, shot and killed an unarmed black man named Stephon Clark. To keep demonstrators at a distance, Schubert surrounded her office with a 10-foot fence.
End of 2019: https://www.foxnews.com/media/ag-bar...ment-vacancies

2020: Antifa/BLM is allowed to riot for 4 months straight mainly without charges being brought. And to post the bail so the rioters arrested could get out some hours later and join the next day, the democrats and celebs donated and asked you to do the same.
Then, like magic, when "the polls started to show that the riots were now hurting the democrats", the anarchists seem to stop or tone it down massively.

IMO it's not organic development, but fueled by Soros(and others) funding both BLM/Antifa as well as those prosecutors.

Antifa has been in the streets of Portland for a long time, where do they get money for food, clothing, place to live, daily hygiene, shields, fireworks, gas for molotovs, helmets, umbrellas, leaf blowers, cameras and whatever else they used for their daily protests from night to morning?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485721-Texas-cop-charged-with-murder&p=14148495#post14148495

[Overdrive]

He isn't a big public figure in the US either. His organization is real though and it doesn't matter who you think he is because "there's no interest in him" where you are, the organization is still real and he's been focusing on change in the US since 2003.
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/soros-pulling-out-of-russia-to-focus-on-u.s


Non-sequitur.

Trying to convince them of what?

They already believe Soros is manipulating society, in ways that YOU YOURSELF WOULD AGREE IS DETRIMENTAL. Nobody has to be convinced of anything. If there's evidence he does this - which there is - then you aren't investing any time in 'convincing someone' of it. You would be cooperating with other people on stopping it. And you could still disagree with them on any number of other issues.

It seems you're simply letting a social divide in political affiliations dictate your own political priorities. You're afraid to be seen as "in league" with this or that group. That's the whole crux of the division a guy like him wants to exploit. Soros can hide behind a facade of being "progressive" not to mention playing the "criticizing me is anti semitic" card, and anyone who doesnt wanna be called a Nazi will give him carte blanche.


He is an instigator who through his money affect what happens around us. He's just not a big public figure, the evidence in this thread coming from the OP who's posted a chart, where his name functions as conspiracy theory equal to thinking the world is flat.



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485721-Texas-cop-charged-with-murder&p=14148495#post14148495

That's cool and all, but he's still synonymous for the "rich jew" among those circles over here.

Also without knowing the context


The cash infusion in the nonpartisan elections turns underdog challengers into contenders for one of the most powerful positions in local justice systems, roiling conventional law-and-order politics

this doesn't sound more shady than anything the estabslishment does. The justice system is weird in a sense that judges basically funnel equities in form of people to privates businesses creating money with convictions.

[~primetime~]

I don't think some of you have a real grasp of what the "Illuminati" is in relation to this chart. It is MUCH different than 'rich men in the background pulling strings'. To people in the red the Illuminati is a satanic cult who can see into the future. It consists of all celebs and athletes (LeBron) and they foreshadow the major events of the future in their movies and media. They stage mass shootings, floyd death, everything. We are staring in the "Truman Show" for their entertainment and its all in the name of Satan.

[KennyPowers]

I usually tune out when someone starts to namedrop Soro as some shadow government world leader figure. Most of these people who cite that over here are extremly stubborn hardcore rightwingers. Notsome conservatives like you guys, but real hardcore Nazis who wish for a Führer reincarnation. I see no use in talking to such people, because nothing good will come out from it.

That said. Soros is an existing person. There's no single proof for aliens to exist in our universe, so how can anything about Soros be less likely than anything alienrelated? If Soros being a south east asian dragqueen having 3 balls, but no dick, who keeps himself alive by sucking poop out of elephants' asses would be a conspiracy theory it would be more likely than anything alienrelated.

And I say this while firmly believing extra terestial life exists(just no interference with our lives and planet).

Soros a Jew, was found by the Nazis and he showed them where other News were hiding so they could be murdered or taken to camp. He continued working along side them and went on to live as a future billionaire. He essentially is a Nazi, and definitely a psychopath.

[KennyPowers]

Pizzagate
Fake moon landing
Illuminati/NWO
Soros
Deep State
Sandy Hook Hoax... Parkland... Orlando...
Obama Connecticut birth certificate and raised by tranny nanny
Adrenochrome
9/11 (operation northwoods)
Chemtrails

Things that actually happened

[ZenMaster]

That's cool and all, but he's still synonymous for the "rich jew" among those circles over here.

Also without knowing the context



this doesn't sound more shady than anything the estabslishment does. The justice system is weird in a sense that judges basically funnel equities in form of people to privates businesses creating money with convictions.

But the context is there. He wants to change how crime is perceived and now riots have been allowed to go on for 4 months, appearing to have been supported by most people and without much consequence for the ones who did it.

[DoctorP]

I don't think some of you have a real grasp of what the "Illuminati" is in relation to this chart. It is MUCH different than 'rich men in the background pulling strings'. To people in the red the Illuminati is a satanic cult who can see into the future. It consists of all celebs and athletes (LeBron) and they foreshadow the major events of the future in their movies and media. They stage mass shootings, floyd death, everything. We are staring in the "Truman Show" for their entertainment and its all in the name of Satan.

What you are calling satan is actually what descartes called the great deception. In your case it consists of mixing up liberal media propaganda, entertainment writers' world views and the eventual aftermath of these forces. If you want to call that satan...sure, why not? I see it more as a distortion.

[coin24]

This isn’t really a left vs right thing (I know that’s all Americans know)

But there Are a LOT of questionable things on that list, for the ones down lower that are just accepted now, at the times you wouldn’t even question it. If you think government and corporations (one and the same) aren’t lying to you daily then you’re a fkn moron plain and simple..


Moon landing is very questionable for me, the technology just wasn’t there at the time. The fact that Armstrong went recluse after and wanted nothing to do with the program afterwards says a lot.

[Overdrive]

Moon landing is very questionable for me, the technology just wasn’t there at the time. The fact that Armstrong went recluse after and wanted nothing to do with the program afterwards says a lot.

What technology wasn't there that was needed to land on the moon?

[~primetime~]

What you are calling satan is actually what descartes called the great deception. In your case it consists of mixing up liberal media propaganda, entertainment writers' world views and the eventual aftermath of these forces. If you want to call that satan...sure, why not? I see it more as a distortion.

To the people who are entrenched in the red it is all rooted in a biblical battle vs Satan. Most of those listed in the red are. Even the flat Earthers believe the Earth is flat because the Bible says so and the Earth being round is a deception by Satan that all the aviators of the world are in on. QAnon is basically just an off shoot of Illuminati...a powerful satanic cult.

Most of the people engulfed by that conspiracy culture are in the permanent state of thinking "the end of times" is right around the corner... and they're just stuck there.