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Jay-B
10-10-2020, 12:08 AM
Down 1 top of the key 1 on 1 with Butler, how the HELL doesn’t he want the opportunity to win the Lakers the title at the buzzer in 2020 and be a Laker legend for life? So crazy to me , especially with his monster stat line tonight at 36 years old

Stanley Kobrick
10-10-2020, 12:09 AM
i believe he scored or assisted on the lakers last 10 points in the 4th quarter in the last 5 minutes

TheGoatest
10-10-2020, 12:10 AM
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/d8/5d812149-79f2-52a4-b868-2874ed9118f1/573fb534dd783.image.jpg?resize=1024%2C1641

https://www.nba.com/images/cms/2017-08/john-paxson-1993-finals.jpg?cw=1752&w=1752&x=579&ch=3115&h=3115&y=39.5

The Iron Fist
10-10-2020, 12:13 AM
i believe he scored or assisted on the lakers last 10 points in the 4th quarter in the last 5 minutes

That really doesn’t make him look good like you think it does. When one player controls the ball that much, other players can’t get in groove to make shots when they are needed most.

Shaquille O'Neal
10-10-2020, 12:14 AM
No pics though of the 1991 Game 2 where Jordan dribbled up the floor to hit the come from behind 2 pointer to tie the game and send it into overtime? Or the 2 game winning buzzer beaters in 97? Or "the shot" to close out 1998 game 6 with his 6th ring? Methinks thou doth have selective memory.
Lebron is now officially 0-7 in NBA Finals game tying/winning shots. ZERO FOR SEVEN.

Jay-B
10-10-2020, 12:15 AM
Still man you guys don’t get it, he has to pull up and take that shot at the top of the key at the buzzer for GLORY

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 12:17 AM
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/d8/5d812149-79f2-52a4-b868-2874ed9118f1/573fb534dd783.image.jpg?resize=1024%2C1641

https://www.nba.com/images/cms/2017-08/john-paxson-1993-finals.jpg?cw=1752&w=1752&x=579&ch=3115&h=3115&y=39.5

Terrible comparison dude. Kerr and pax were pretty solid. Greens been dog shit. Why pass the ball to a guy for a big shot who's been dog shit? Usually it be the right play or at the very least a good one. In this case im not so sure. Dude is open for a reason.

DoctorP
10-10-2020, 12:19 AM
Good ol Bran

TheGoatest
10-10-2020, 12:20 AM
Terrible comparison dude. Kerr and pax were pretty solid. Greens been dog shit. Why pass the ball to a guy for a big shot who's been dog shit? Usually it be the right play or at the very least a good one. In this case im not so sure. Dude is open for a reason.

John Paxson, Steve Kerr and Danny Green all had one role on offense: Hit their open 3s. I'm sure LeBron would've much rather have had Kerr or Paxson to be in that spot instead of Green, but in the end he was forced to rely on the player the Lakers had on their roster who was supposed to hit his open 3s. That player just ended up not being as good at the job as Kerr or Paxson.

dazzer87
10-10-2020, 12:22 AM
Bron could’ve drove to the basket and go to the line down by 1....and drop two freethrow like Jimmy....

Keno
10-10-2020, 12:23 AM
there were 4 people on him, do you even watch the games? it's called having an iq and making the right play.

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 12:24 AM
John Paxson, Steve Kerr and Danny Green all had one role on offense: Hit their open 3s. I'm sure LeBron would've much rather have had Kerr or Paxson to be in that spot instead of Green, but in the end he was forced to rely on the player the Lakers had on their roster who was supposed to hit his open 3s. That player just ended up not being as good at the job as Kerr or Paxson.

Yeah for sure. It wasnt a bad play but I think him shooting it would have been the better one. He was hot and greens been trash. He was open for a reason.

BigKobeFan
10-10-2020, 12:26 AM
Bran could have pulled up before the crowder triple team. He was looking pass the entire play so people can blame george hill instead of hill. Remember that

imdaman99
10-10-2020, 12:27 AM
All Green had to do was pass the ball to KCP who was also open in the corner. But when Lebron passes you the ball, you better shoot or he might ream you out for not shooting.

TheGoatest
10-10-2020, 12:27 AM
Yeah for sure. It wasnt a bad play but I think him shooting it would have been the better one. He was hot and greens been trash. He was open for a reason.

No, it wouldn't. Shooting over a triple team is never a better option than a guy who is supposed to hit open 3s having the most open 3 of the series.

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 12:27 AM
there were 4 people on him, do you even watch the games? it's called having an iq and making the right play.

No initially there was one than a second help defender came and then when he drove another collapsed. He could drove hard and pulled up or took a tough step back. Either would of been better than green shooting a wide open shot in that situation. Again its a tough one because he's open and its not a bad play in general. Green has been really bad though.

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 12:28 AM
No, it wouldn't. Shooting over a triple team is never a better option than a guy who is supposed to hit open 3s having the most open 3 of the series.

Pulling up on a double team can absolutely be better than passing to a guy who's been dog shit all series. No way he was hitting that shot. Again he was open for a reason.

BigKobeFan
10-10-2020, 12:28 AM
No initially there was one than a second help defender came and then when he drove another collapsed. He could drove hard and pulled up or took a tough step back. Either would of been better than green shooting a wide open shot in that situation. Again its a tough one because he's open and its not a bad play in general. Green has been really bad though.

Yup. He could have pulled up before the crowder collapse

And1AllDay
10-10-2020, 12:31 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/m27njrK6/giphy.gif

TheGoatest
10-10-2020, 12:33 AM
Pulling up on a double team can absolutely be better than passing to a guy who's been dog shit all series. No way he was hitting that shot. Again he was open for a reason.

Yes, and that reason is them not wanting LeBron to take the shot under any circumstances, even if it means putting as many as 4 players on him.

And1AllDay
10-10-2020, 12:34 AM
Yes, and that reason is them not wanting LeBron to take the shot under any circumstances, even if it means putting as many as 4 players on him.

yeah like how dumb are these kids :oldlol: miami loaded up 3 dudes on bran and he had the passing iq to find an open man.

2ball
10-10-2020, 12:41 AM
yeah like how dumb are these kids :oldlol: miami loaded up 3 dudes on bran and he had the passing iq to find an open man.

They don’t watch the game. Op literally didn’t watch

And1AllDay
10-10-2020, 12:47 AM
They don’t watch the game. Op literally didn’t watch

makes sense these low iq guys dont know a lot we need to teach them every day :cheers:

BigKobeFan
10-10-2020, 12:49 AM
makes sense these low iq guys dont know a lot we need to teach them every day :cheers:

Teach me what? That bran travelled on the last play?

KD7
10-10-2020, 01:20 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/hvnbSZTL/d23fd82.jpg

Stanley Kobrick
10-10-2020, 01:21 AM
he didn't have the ball to take the last shot, danny green had the ball





https://i.postimg.cc/kgLrq3Kv/bd4b4cS.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

And1AllDay
10-10-2020, 01:33 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/hvnbSZTL/d23fd82.jpg

:roll::roll::roll:

case closed

TheGoatest
10-10-2020, 02:09 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/kgLrq3Kv/bd4b4cS.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://images2.imagebam.com/d3/8c/c9/50e1331356081132.png

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 12:55 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnd16J6V/Bron-gw-post.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/m27njrK6/giphy.gif

This is dumb dude. You get different numbers depending on hiw much times left. This one favors lebron. There are others that dont. Mj is usually right around 50% but kobe and bron fluctuate depending on how much time you use.

Bronbron23
10-10-2020, 01:03 PM
yeah like how dumb are these kids :oldlol: miami loaded up 3 dudes on bran and he had the passing iq to find an open man.

Nah for most of that possession he had 2 guys on him. Any long 2 or mid would of been on the double team. He could of definitely pulled up for the mid against the doubke team like mj has done thousands of times. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1S1cXaqkIRQ. Hey but dont take my word for it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_nt21y8Xy0

nineiron
10-10-2020, 01:06 PM
John Paxson, Steve Kerr and Danny Green all had one role on offense: Hit their open 3s. I'm sure LeBron would've much rather have had Kerr or Paxson to be in that spot instead of Green, but in the end he was forced to rely on the player the Lakers had on their roster who was supposed to hit his open 3s. That player just ended up not being as good at the job as Kerr or Paxson.

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nineiron
10-10-2020, 01:09 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/hvnbSZTL/d23fd82.jpg

LMFAO!!! all he has to do is put it up. LMFAO!!

LeCoward was scurred he'd either miss or get fouled.

#LeCoward

tpols
10-10-2020, 01:15 PM
I gotta say... if he iced butler like that, people would be crowning him as the GOAT.

And he was playing with house money. Up 3-1... not even close to do or die, but he didn't want to take that pull up midrange J.

It would've been just as iconic as MJ's 1998 shot, but he didn't have the balls to take it.

nineiron
10-10-2020, 01:17 PM
I gotta say... if he iced butler like that, people would be crowning him as the GOAT.

And he was playing with house money. Up 3-1... not even close to do or die, but he didn't want to take that pull up midrange J.

It would've been just as iconic as MJ's 1998 shot, but he didn't have the balls to take it.

story of LeFraud's career

34-24 Footwork
10-10-2020, 01:39 PM
Brons stans looking at a photo instead of actually watching the game to justify why he didn't pull up on Jimmy sums them up, perfectly.

PP34Deuce
10-10-2020, 02:06 PM
Miami was collapsing the paint and had 3 4 defenders on him. U cant compare to Kobe or MJ they wouldnt be looked nearly as dangerous to pass.

Green had iggy racing to him but it was an open shot. He could have swung it to kcp. Morris rebounds and makes a huge mistake to lob it in traffic.

Losing a close game like that... frank Vogel got outcoached.

Stanley Kobrick
10-10-2020, 02:17 PM
https://images2.imagebam.com/d3/8c/c9/50e1331356081132.png
i see what you did there

dazzer87
10-10-2020, 02:31 PM
LMFAO!!! all he has to do is put it up. LMFAO!!

LeCoward was scurred he'd either miss or get fouled.

#LeCoward

And then what? Try to win it at the FT line yeah right......:lol

Real14
10-12-2020, 02:18 PM
because he's a bitch:lol

BigKobeFan
10-12-2020, 02:20 PM
2011 and the Decision still exist

Why do you think he would take that shot?

Real14
10-12-2020, 02:32 PM
2011 and the Decision still exist

Why do you think he would take that shot?

He's not built for it

brownmamba00
10-12-2020, 02:44 PM
We had this dude rocking the mamba jersey but he still was passin out shots like its saint pattys day

Smh

Real14
10-12-2020, 02:46 PM
We had this dude rocking the mamba jersey but he still was passin out shots like its saint pattys day

Smh

He disgraced the meaning of that uniform.

brownmamba00
10-12-2020, 02:53 PM
He disgraced the meaning of that uniform.

True

EllEffEll
10-12-2020, 03:08 PM
James has been grooming his teammates for moments like these for the past two years. I don't personally have a problem with it. I'd rather have a guy with a wide open look take the shot than Lebron with at least two other guys draped over him.

Mr. Woke
10-12-2020, 03:20 PM
LeBron is the GOAT.

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:29 PM
LeBron is the GOAT.

The GOAT at most finals losses.

SouBeachTalents
10-12-2020, 05:30 PM
The GOAT at most finals losses.
The Knicks have as many Finals losses but half the titles

K Xerxes
10-12-2020, 05:32 PM
The GOAT at most finals losses.

Are you that loser Knicks fan from 2014 who kept spelling 'the' as 'tha'?

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:40 PM
Are you that loser Knicks fan from 2014 who kept spelling 'the' as 'tha'?

Loser? I'm not a loser.

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:41 PM
The Knicks have as many Finals losses but half the titles

Lebron deserved none of his rings

RRR3
10-12-2020, 05:41 PM
Are you that loser Knicks fan from 2014 who kept spelling 'the' as 'tha'?
Yes he is.

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:43 PM
Yes he is.

You are tho.

K Xerxes
10-12-2020, 05:46 PM
You are tho.

Nice comeback. At least your grammar is better. You did a lot of growing up in 6 years.

SouBeachTalents
10-12-2020, 05:47 PM
Nice comeback. At least your grammar is better. You did a lot of growing up in 6 years.
Nah, he's still an extremely sore loser :lol He pulled similar shit when LeBron won back in 2016

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:49 PM
Nice comeback. At least your grammar is better. You did a lot of growing up in 6 years.

I was chilling man and being a nut, that's all.

Real14
10-12-2020, 05:50 PM
Nah, he's still an extremely sore loser :lol He pulled similar shit when LeBron won back in 2016

Everybody knows that Lebitch bitched to Silver to get Draymond suspended in those finals.

3ball
10-12-2020, 06:03 PM
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Down the stretch of tight playoff games (last 5 within 5):


2006-2018 LEBRON PLAYOFFS... 134-323... 41.4%... 108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game


1997 & 1998 JORDAN PLAYOFFS'... 42-89... 47.2%... 25 games... 3.6 attempts per game


TLDR: Down the stretch of tight playoff games (last 5 within 5), Lebron shoots 41% on 3.0 attempts per game for his playoff career, compared to 47% on 3.6 attempts for 97' and 98' MJ (20% more attempts on better efficiency)



Sources:

Lebron:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game


Jordan:

Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)... 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)... 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)


Btw, lebron's stats are the same as Kobe and KD's (40% on 3 attempts a game).. so MJ was just a cut above everyone

light
10-12-2020, 07:29 PM
LeBron doesn’t care about what you think.

He knows he has more playoff game winners than Michael Jordan.
He knows he has more playoff game winners than Mr. Clutch, Jerry West.
He knows he has more playoff game winners than Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Stephen Curry COMBINED.

Bron does it his way.

Frankly, I think he sometimes passes in those situations to trigger his critics - to rub in their faces that he can do that and still be the GOAT - laughing all the way to the bank.