Why can't Lebron do this..

[3ball]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/d-aNve.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/dI6kD-.gif

^^^ no screen.. pure iso.. the screen infact gives the defense some control over the play


Or play the "shooter role" in the clutch, rather than the predictable ball-dominator setup:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/hwAbGz.gif

Kobe talks about how defenses can have "tunnel vision" on ball-dominators and it's "easy to guard" - see the quote here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4Y6y4CSsg&t=01m03s)

It's a shame that every final play is Lebron dominating the ball with a high screen roll, aka predictable

And if Lebron makes teammates better, why do his teammates always play so bad and never have a Kerr or Paxson or Kukoc moment?.. obviously, he isn't doing something right.. otoh, Jordan was fearless, which was apparently contagious

[brutalBBQ]

Apparently his IQ is so high he passed to a 40% whist his own was 66.7%.

[LAL]

Having zero moves makes you drive like a headless chicken sometimes. We don't care if 3 players tried to block him, he could've been a little more patient and creative, shoot a midrange or drive quicker go for free throws. Lebron "no responsibility" James, seen it too many times, kicking out to his teammates like he does all game, so we can blame everything on them and not the guy with great numbers.

[TheGoatest]

https://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1673447/lebronclutch.gif

And he tried to do it again last night. But he was playing with the third Morris twin/triplet, J.R. Morris:

https://images2.imagebam.com/e0/34/ee/c429201356094896.png

[3ball]

https://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1673447/lebronclutch.gif

And he tried to do it again tonight. But he was playing with the third Morris twin/triplet, J.R. Morris:

https://images2.imagebam.com/e0/34/ee/c429201356094896.png

That wasn't to win or tie the game.. that was an ordinary game-sealer that ordinary players routinely have

And btw, horrific herky-jerky footwork.. weak jumpshooting skill.. not a pure shooter

Also, his teammates don't view him as a shooter, so they don't look for him like that, especially in the clutch

[TheGoatest]

That wasn't to win or tie the game.. that was an ordinary game-sealer that ordinary players routinely have

And btw, horrific herky-jerky footwork.. weak jumpshooting skill.. not a pure shooter

Also, his teammates don't view him as a shooter, so they don't look for him like that, especially in the clutch

You just mad that he didn't have to push off in order to bury that game winning jumper in game 7 of the 2013 finals.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/41617774edf5372dfa32a4f001e46569/tumblr_mihnxr995H1r47wsdo1_500.gif

[LAL]

You just mad that he didn't have to push off in order to bury that game winning jumper in game 7 of the 2013 finals.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/41617774edf5372dfa32a4f001e46569/tumblr_mihnxr995H1r47wsdo1_500.gif

Iq and skills, that was a high level move.

[Lebron23]

Iq and skills, that was a high level move.

That was a push off. You've imbecile.

[Overdrive]

That was a push off. You've imbecile.

It was a tab, and nobody gave a **** about if back then, Russell was already going the wrong way. It only became a thing mentioned by Lebron stans.




Or play the "shooter role" in the clutch, rather than the predictable ball-dominator setup:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/hwAbGz.gif

Kobe talks about how defenses can have "tunnel vision" on ball-dominators and it's "easy to guard" - see the quote here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4Y6y4CSsg&t=01m03s)

It's a shame that every final play is Lebron dominating the ball with a high screen roll, aka predictable

And if Lebron makes teammates better, why do his teammates always play so bad and never have a Kerr or Paxson or Kukoc moment?.. obviously, he isn't doing something right.. otoh, Jordan was fearless, which was apparently contagious

Your iso points are bullshit. Neither player was guarded entering the half court like Lebron. Kyrie was guarded by fn matador Curry. But that Jordan shot. That's what Lebron would've needed to do. Already said that yesterday. Rondo should've brought the ball upcourt. Giving the Lakers more options. When Lebron attacked the paint it was either him doing a tough layup/bad shot or having to kick out to the man players doubled off by. Wasn't a good call.

[Wally450]

That wasn't to win or tie the game.. that was an ordinary game-sealer that ordinary players routinely have

And btw, horrific herky-jerky footwork.. weak jumpshooting skill.. not a pure shooter

Also, his teammates don't view him as a shooter, so they don't look for him like that, especially in the clutch

You're so mad that he posted that gif. :oldlol:

[STATUTORY]

lack of iso scoring skills has always been the achilles heel of bran's game

the guy was calling for picks his 1st day in the league, never had the elite first step to just take his man off the dribble or the footwork/body control/coordination to pull up for the jumper

this is why he was never regarded as a closer

[Hittin_Shots]

LeBron fans in here talking about a slight push off when their love bulldozing every motherfkr

[TheGoatest]

LeBron fans in here talking about a slight push off when their love bulldozing every motherfkr

:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8172cbe5d83dae9bd31b135b24767c01/tenor.gif


The Queen can't do this.

[And1AllDay]

https://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1673447/lebronclutch.gif

And he tried to do it again last night. But he was playing with the third Morris twin/triplet, J.R. Morris:

https://images2.imagebam.com/e0/34/ee/c429201356094896.png

Close it up

[HBK_Kliq_2]

That wasn't to win or tie the game.. that was an ordinary game-sealer that ordinary players routinely have

And btw, horrific herky-jerky footwork.. weak jumpshooting skill.. not a pure shooter

Also, his teammates don't view him as a shooter, so they don't look for him like that, especially in the clutch

Exactly. Morris just recently said that he thinks Anthony Davis is the best player in the world, so of course he's going to look for Davis ahead of LeBron. That was also after LeBron cowardly passed it to Danny Green. I could understand if LeBron was cold shooting all game and passed it to Green. LeBron had 40 points on 6 threes and still let Green take the last shot, that's a coward. The pass to Green was also terrible.

[Fedor - Laker]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/d-aNve.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/dI6kD-.gif

^^^ no screen.. pure iso.. the screen infact gives the defense some control over the play


Or play the "shooter role" in the clutch, rather than the predictable ball-dominator setup:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2020/hwAbGz.gif

Kobe talks about how defenses can have "tunnel vision" on ball-dominators and it's "easy to guard" - see the quote here (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4Y6y4CSsg&t=01m03s)

It's a shame that every final play is Lebron dominating the ball with a high screen roll, aka predictable

And if Lebron makes teammates better, why do his teammates always play so bad and never have a Kerr or Paxson or Kukoc moment?.. obviously, he isn't doing something right.. otoh, Jordan was fearless, which was apparently contagious

Yea nice shot from Kobe, they ended up losing how bad in that series?

[TheCorporation]

Don't forget

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My Lakers in 6

[3ball]

Don't forget

https://i.postimg.cc/MTpBCrLc/papa-G.png

My Lakers in 6

Yes Lebron understands that he can't hit those shots and lacks the repertoire, shooting touch or footwork to jettison the "primary ball-handler" format and employ a more winning brand

[Luka Doncic]

While what everyone has said about Bron on here is true but it doesn’t take away from his greatness. We already know he’s not that type but he still kept the team in it.

[Mauzah]

When you're THE GUY sometimes it just boils down to F U team I'm taking the last shot no matter what the defense gives


LeBron fans in here talking about a slight push off when their love bulldozing every motherfkr

Truth.

[90sgoat]

Yes Lebron understands that he can't hit those shots and lacks the repertoire, shooting touch or footwork to jettison the "primary ball-handler" format and employ a more winning brand

Pretty much, Lebron doesn't pass because he is afraid or because it's "the right move", he passes because he knows he doesn't have the skill to score in the clutch.

[TheCorporation]

Yes Lebron understands that he can't hit those shots and lacks the repertoire, shooting touch or footwork to jettison the "primary ball-handler" format and employ a more winning brand

If you think he should have shot or passed, your opinion means nothing to him. He is a great player. He doesn’t need any of you to tell him anything. He knows more than all of you combined, he understands the game.

[Spurs m8]

When all you have is a stiff arm drive, and you can't stiff arm 3 guys at the same time, you're pretty much doomed.

So fvcking exposed for his lack of proper basketball iso plays

[HoopsNY]

LeBron fans in here talking about a slight push off when their love bulldozing every motherfkr

That's the irony of LeBron stans. The consistent shoulder drop and barreling his way to the basket, coupled with traveling from here to the moon is overlooked, but a brush of Russell whose momentum was going that way is egregious.

You can't take Bran stans seriously. They're hyped up kids who follow LeShannon Sharpe and Dick Wrong.

[paksat]

a good stiff arm is what i'm starting to see at the local parks these days, lebronze teaching them kids solid fundamentals

[Spurs m8]

a good stiff arm is what i'm starting to see at the local parks these days, lebronze teaching them kids solid fundamentals

:roll::roll:

[AirBonner]

a good stiff arm is what i'm starting to see at the local parks these days, lebronze teaching them kids solid fundamentals

Were your trousers around your ankles while you wanked one off to the kids on the court? You come across as that sort of chap

[FireDavidKahn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCa4sKM7-w

Welp

[bullettooth]

You just mad that he didn't have to push off in order to bury that game winning jumper in game 7 of the 2013 finals.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/41617774edf5372dfa32a4f001e46569/tumblr_mihnxr995H1r47wsdo1_500.gif

LOL @ a Bran nut hugger complaining about a pushoff. Delusional.

[bullettooth]

a good stiff arm is what i'm starting to see at the local parks these days, lebronze teaching them kids solid fundamentals

LOL! Every LeBron fan ive come across has been some fat basement dwelling stat nerd. I cant picture any of the bran fanboys on ish playing ball.

[Gus Hemmingway]

You just mad that he didn't have to push off in order to bury that game winning jumper in game 7 of the 2013 finals.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/41617774edf5372dfa32a4f001e46569/tumblr_mihnxr995H1r47wsdo1_500.gif

Ordan's only memorable playoff moments are a stiff arm on Byron "7.9ppg" Russell and a freethrow over Craig "8.6ppg" Ehlo :oldlol:

[TheGoatest]

LOL @ a Bran nut hugger complaining about a pushoff. Delusional.

LOL @ Jordan propagandist saying LeBron commits offensive fouls.
That Jordan push-off on Russell happened 5-6 years before LeBron even entered the league, and Jordan propagandists have been celebrating it as if it's a great play ever since. Therefore, it makes anything they say about LeBron invalid.

[Mauzah]

LOL @ Jordan propagandist saying LeBron commits offensive fouls.
That Jordan push-off on Russell happened 5-6 years before LeBron even entered the league, and Jordan propagandists have been celebrating it as if it's a great play ever since. Therefore, it makes anything they say about LeBron invalid.

I'm not trying to be rude here but you're honestly a stupid person. Think about it.

[And1AllDay]

Ordan's only memorable playoff moments are a stiff arm on Byron "7.9ppg" Russell and a freethrow over Craig "8.6ppg" Ehlo :oldlol:

elite wing defenders for that watered down 90s era

:oldlol::roll::roll:

'mike is lighting us up, lets stick john starks on him!" :oldlol: shit is wild, weak ass era

[TheGoatest]

I'm not trying to be rude here but you're honestly a stupid person. Think about it.

Jordan fanboy mad for Jordan being exposed. :lol

[Real14]

He don't have it in him

[Ainosterhaspie]

What are you on about OP. LeBron has numerous playoff buzzer beaters in a variety of ways without screens to set them up. He's hit from three, running floater, baseline fadeaway, taking his man off the dribble, attacking the basket.

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[Real14]

What are you on about OP. LeBron has numerous playoff buzzer beaters in a variety of ways without screens to set them up. He's hit from three, running floater, baseline fadeaway, taking his man off the dribble, attacking the basket.

https://media.giphy.com/media/lkdZpAFnKYnigZ9dcF/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/U3TuygDZPUf8tepnUo/giphy.gif
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What about the finals where it actually counts?

[3ball]

What are you on about OP. LeBron has numerous playoff buzzer beaters in a variety of ways without screens to set them up. He's hit from three, running floater, baseline fadeaway, taking his man off the dribble, attacking the basket.

https://media.giphy.com/media/lkdZpAFnKYnigZ9dcF/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/U3TuygDZPUf8tepnUo/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/S3KVefuV0OrFtjGsc5/giphy.gif
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Nothing on the championship level..

0/8 on the championship level and 10 Finals (massive sample), so he isn't good enough to do it on the championship level

Carry on with the fraud

Btw, the shots you posted aren't isos where lebron breaks his man down like Kyrie or Kobe's clutch shots on the championship level

[ZenMaster7210]

a good stiff arm is what i'm starting to see at the local parks these days, lebronze teaching them kids solid fundamentals

:oldlol::roll::dancin:hammertime:

[Roundball_Rock]

Nick Wright: Why can't MJ win without a HOF coach?

[3ball]

Nick Wright: Why can't MJ win without a HOF coach?

Phil was a 1st time, nobody coach when MJ won with him in 1991.. MJ was the goat candidate, and Phil was the 1st time, nobody coach

Phil inherited a team that was already on the cusp of the Finals in 89' - only a shitty 2nd option (10 on 40%) prevented a championship that year

No one was giving Phil any props and Phil had to win 72 with MJ to get COY

[Hey Yo]

Phil was a 1st time, nobody coach when MJ won with him in 1991.. MJ was the goat candidate, and Phil was the 1st time, nobody coach

Phil inherited a team that was already on the cusp of the Finals in 89' - only a shitty 2nd option (10 on 40%) prevented a championship that year

No one was giving Phil any props and Phil had to win 72 with MJ to get COY

MJ quitting in 89 is what held the Bulls back.

[Mr. Woke]

LeBron is the GOAT.

[3ball]

MJ quitting in 89 is what held the Bulls back.

Translation: damn 3ball you just obliterated roundball

[Roundball_Rock]

Phil without Jordan: 5 chips, 7 finals

Jordan without Phil...?

[3ball]

Phil without Jordan: 5 chips, 7 finals

Jordan without Phil...?
How many rings for Phil without Jordan or his clone?

waiting...

In the meantime, here's some little-known facts:

the triangle never had success before Jordan because even though it put role players in optimal spots, 20-30% of possessions still required a bailout by the star.. indeed, the goat bailout artists MJ/Kobe were the key that unlocked the triangle's goatness - without them, Phil and the triangle were pedestrian, as the Knicks found out

Carry on the fraud tho

[Ainosterhaspie]

OP has to use compilations of multiple guys to try to build his point because a finals game winner is an exceedingly rare event. And it's built on stupid, arbitrary criteria. Making a three to get within distance to tie like LeBron did in game six 2013 doesn't count for no good reason.

LeBron isoed on Curry takes him off the dribble to the bucket and scores with 50 to go, then takes Durant off the dribble, not using the offered screen by the way, with 36 seconds to go in 2018 and those don't count, but Irving's three with 50 to go in a tie game does, I guess because LBJ made layups instead of jump shots, though why a guy being good enough to get himself a layup is a negative, I'll never understand. It's a higher percentage shot, but let's give credit to guys who couldn't get themselves easy shots like that and deny credit to the guy who can.

But the bigger issue is OP says LBJ doesn't have skillset to make x,y,z shot when he has literally done exactly those things. It's a nonsensical critique. Even worse is saying things have to be done in exactly x way. I mean if we want to play that game let's go with Jordan can't attack from the three point line off the dribble to get a layup game winner in the finals. He's never done that so must not be able to. That's a stupid argument to make because its easy for every single player ever to look for something they haven't done in the waning seconds of a close finals games. Its impossible to have scored in every way imaginable when you only get a handful of opportunities to score under a very narrowly defined criteria in an entire career.

Reducing a career to shots in the last 24 seconds of a finals game when tied or behind is the height of absurdity. The sample size is so small it becomes meaningless.

The OP claims LeBron can't beat people in iso without screen. That's not true. It claims he can't play shooter role in clutch. Thats not true. The three pointer against the Pacers above is basically the same action as the Kobe make. LeBron is going left with the defender in tow, but instead of stopping like Kobe does to make a couple moves, LeBron just stops and shoots. What's the point of the extra stuff when he got the job done just by moving quick, stopping and shooting?

[Roundball_Rock]

OP has to use compilations of multiple guys to try to build his point because a finals game winner is an exceedingly rare event. And it's built on stupid, arbitrary criteria. Making a three to get within distance to tie like LeBron did in game six 2013 doesn't count for no good reason.

LeBron isoed on Curry takes him off the dribble to the bucket and scores with 50 to go, then takes Durant off the dribble, not using the offered screen by the way, with 36 seconds to go in 2018 and those don't count, but Irving's three with 50 to go in a tie game does, I guess because LBJ made layups instead of jump shots, though why a guy being good enough to get himself a layup is a negative, I'll never understand. It's a higher percentage shot, but let's give credit to guys who couldn't get themselves easy shots like that and deny credit to the guy who can.

But the bigger issue is OP says LBJ doesn't have skillset to make x,y,z shot when he has literally done exactly those things. It's a nonsensical critique. Even worse is saying things have to be done in exactly x way. I mean if we want to play that game let's go with Jordan can't attack from the three point line off the dribble to get a layup game winner in the finals. He's never done that so must not be able to. That's a stupid argument to make because its easy for every single player ever to look for something they haven't done in the waning seconds of a close finals games. Its impossible to have scored in every way imaginable when you only get a handful of opportunities to score under a very narrowly defined criteria in an entire career.

Reducing a career to shots in the last 24 seconds of a finals game when tied or behind is the height of absurdity. The sample size is so small it becomes meaningless.

The OP claims LeBron can't beat people in iso without screen. That's not true. It claims he can't play shooter role in clutch. Thats not true. The three pointer against the Pacers above is basically the same action as the Kobe make. LeBron is going left with the defender in tow, but instead of stopping like Kobe does to make a couple moves, LeBron just stops and shoots. What's the point of the extra stuff when he got the job done just by moving quick, stopping and shooting?

:applause:

It is funny how people act like finals game winning shots are so common. You need the game to be close and it has to fit the narrow parameters you alluded to. If a player hits a dagger with 30 seconds left it doesn't count as a "game winner." The parameters are so narrow to be almost meaningless.

We saw LeBron make a bunch of key buckets--as well as assist on them--just the other day in a close game.

[madmax]

Ordan's only memorable playoff moments are a stiff arm on Byron "7.9ppg" Russell and a freethrow over Craig "8.6ppg" Ehlo :oldlol:

:lol:roll:

[Real14]

:applause:

It is funny how people act like finals game winning shots are so common. You need the game to be close and it has to fit the narrow parameters you alluded to. If a player hits a dagger with 30 seconds left it doesn't count as a "game winner." The parameters are so narrow to be almost meaningless.

We saw LeBron make a bunch of key buckets--as well as assist on them--just the other day in a close game.

Stop making excuses for that bitch