Here's the "no 2 star teammate or a top 5 player sidekick" ring club

[3ball]

MJ
Kobe


Lebron never won a ring without 2 star teammates or a top 5 player sidekick.. and therefore sucks... compared to MJ

MJ won with his sidekick playing like Paul George

carry on

[8Ball]

I'm glad you are here.

Keep up the good work :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Let the meltdown commence

https://media1.giphy.com/media/9u1nYHZYh1rzvp0woO/200.gif

[Shooter]

And therefore sucks... compared to MJ

MJ won with his sidekick playing like Paul George

carry on

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https://www.directadvicefordads.com.au/app/uploads/2017/04/Its-not-your-fault.gif

Let it out, we are here for you

[Gus Hemmingway]

Jordan never won a title without an all star or all NBA player


LeBron won in 2016 without an allstar or all nba teammate

[bullettooth]

Lebron fanboys distorting reality for years now. Arguing with these morons is impossible.

[TheGoatest]

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[aceman]

Ad very close to top 5.
Pippen was top 5 1994 - 96

[Shaquille O'Neal]

MJ
Kobe


Lebron never won a ring without 2 star teammates or a top 5 player sidekick.. and therefore sucks... compared to MJ

MJ won with his sidekick playing like Paul George

carry on


Lebron still has:
6 finals losses. 2 of which he could have made better simply by getting his regular numbers (2007, 2011)
*Never won a championship in a regular 82 game season without a bailout shot by an opponent.

If you like stiff arm low skill, constant complaining basketball then this league is for you. I'm out - these 17 year old can have their fun. Wake me up when he at least wins 6 (although he'd have to win SEVEN to even have a +% Finals winning percentage. LOLOLOL

[8Ball]

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[1987_Lakers]

Imagine thinking '12 & '13 Wade & '16 Kyrie were top 5 players. :oldlol:

Wade made 3rd team All-NBA in those years, Kyrie didn't even sniff All-NBA.

[8Ball]

Lebron fanboys distorting reality for years now. Arguing with these morons is impossible.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NippyWearyHornbill-max-1mb.gif

[Roundball_Rock]

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Imagine thinking '12 & '13 Wade & '16 Kyrie were top 5 players.

Wade made 3rd team All-NBA in those years, Kyrie didn't even sniff All-NBA.

And Pippen magically never was top 5. :lol

MJ quit like a bitch when Pippen left. That is how reliant he was on Pippen. LeBron didn't quit without Wade.

[3ball]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NippyWearyHornbill-max-1mb.gif

Exactly.. 6 > 4

And you must use mj's gif because only the goat can say it right.. as usual, Lebron has nothing

Lebron uses mj's number 23 th same way because he can't make another number as famous... Aka fraud

[Gus Hemmingway]

Exactly.. 6 > 4

And you must use mj's gif because only the goat can say it right.. as usual, Lebron has nothing

Lebron uses mj's number 23 th same way because he can't make another number as famous... Aka fraud


10 > 6

7200 points > 5900 points

[Shooter]

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???

[Shooter]

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[red1]

Lebron fanboys distorting reality for years now. Arguing with these morons is impossible.

Cry more fakkit :roll:

[8Ball]

???

Jordan fans used this gif when LeBron lost in 15/17/18.

This is what it feels like in 2020.

[Shooter]

Jordan fans used this gif when LeBron lost in 15/17/18.

This is what it feels like in 2020.

Ahh I see!

GOTTEM :dancin

https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/LeBron-James-9.jpg

[3ball]

Jordan fans used this gif when LeBron lost in 15/17/18.



^^^ Imagine being such a loser and needing anothe stacked deck to win (Kareem, aka AD)

[1987_Lakers]

^^^ Imagine being such a loser and needing anothe stacked deck to win (Kareem, aka AD)


Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers.

I mentioned last year that AD's teams are only as good as the guys getting him the ball, which explains his weak teams in previous years (I like Jrue Holiday, but there's a lot of teams with ballhandlers that compare or exceed him, hence AD's underwhelming teams in previous years)

:roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475176-AD-is-shedding-light-on-Kareem-s-career-amp-ranking-imo-(new-all-time-rankings-inside)/page10

[3ball]

:roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475176-AD-is-shedding-light-on-Kareem-s-career-amp-ranking-imo-(new-all-time-rankings-inside)/page10

Jordan never needed a top 5 player sidekick or 2 stars to win like Lebron did

Pippen averaged 19 and n 42% in 6 Finals - Lakers get destroyed in the 1st round if AD averaged that

[Roundball_Rock]

:roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?475176-AD-is-shedding-light-on-Kareem-s-career-amp-ranking-imo-(new-all-time-rankings-inside)/page10

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan never needed a top 5 player sidekick or 2 stars to win like Lebron did

Pippen averaged 19 and n 42% in 6 Finals - Lakers get destroyed in the 1st round if AD averaged that

"Bird fed" Your words, not mine.

[3ball]

:lebronamazed:

AD = Kareem

[Gus Hemmingway]

AD = Kareem

Pippen = Kawhi

[sdot_thadon]

Oh damn op made another exclusive club Mj isn't part of....lol

[3ball]

Pippen = Kawhi

Pippen's peak capability is 22 ppg

Kawhi's was 36 ppg vs bucks last year

Not remotely close

Lol. I'm killing y'all

[Koresh]

Here's the "LeBron's legacy is still being written while I will continue to be a ****ing loser for the rest of my life trying to get attention online for the 23432345675456 time jacking off to my lord and savior, Michael Jordan" thread.

[Roundball_Rock]

AD = Kareem

GOAT era then if Kareem is a sidekick in today's era. :bowdown: Meanwhile, in MJ's era--according to you and your disciples--Iggy would be a MVP candidate and ahead of prime Malone, prime Barkley in all-NBA among forwards in multiple years.

Jordan's rings can't be taken seriously under your/your disciples narrative, since the comp was pathetic.

[1987_Lakers]

Pippen's peak capability is 22 ppg

Kawhi's was 36 ppg vs bucks last year

Not remotely close

Lol. I'm killing y'all

Now adjust for pace like you always do when MJ has a statistical disadvantage.
:roll:

[3ball]

Now adjust for pace like you always do when MJ has a statistical disadvantage.
:roll:

Pace changes nothing in this comparison

Pippen's peak capability < Paul George

So not comparable to kawhi.. pippen was basically Paul George except with worse stats

[1987_Lakers]

GOAT era then if Kareem is a sidekick in today's era. :bowdown: Meanwhile, in MJ's era--according to you and your disciples--Iggy would be a MVP candidate and ahead of prime Malone, prime Barkley in all-NBA among forwards in multiple years.

Jordan's rings can't be taken seriously under your/your disciples narrative, since the comp was pathetic.

:roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

Now adjust for pace like you always do when MJ has a statistical disadvantage.
:roll:

He won't because he has no integrity. For instance, if we adjust for Drexler's pace, who MJ stains hype, Pippen becomes something like 25/10/8 but that is not convenient for the MJ narrative of course. :oldlol:

[3ball]

He won't because he has no integrity. For instance, if we adjust for Drexler's pace, who MJ stains hype, Pippen becomes something like 25/10/8 but that is not convenient for the MJ narrative of course. :oldlol:

Pace changes nothing

Kawhi's capability was 35 ppg and consistent 30 ppg on a playoff run - that's simply way better than anything pippen did in the playoffs.. pippen's peak was 21 ppg and 16 on bad efficiency was his average (aka Paul George)

This is standard - look how much better Reggie Lewis was than pippen:

Playoff stats as #1 options

92' LEWIS..... 28/4/4.. 57.0 ts.. 23.8 PER.. 0.177 ws.. 4.1 dbpm.. 2.6 obpm.. 6.8 bpm.. 0.9 vorp
94' PIPPEN... 23/8/5.. 52.1 ts.. 22.8 PER.. 0.149 ws.. 4.0 dbpm.. 1.6 obpm.. 5.6 bpm.. 0.7 vorp


^^^ this is why I always say everyone was better than Pippen - everyone simply played much better than him!!.. aka everyone's playoff peak was much better... aka Derrick Coleman, Reggie Lewis, KJ, and Chris Mullin, to name a few

[BigtimeNBAFan]

I always find it hilarious that Kevin Love who was truly awful in the 2016 Finals counts as a "superstar" by Lebron haters. Not only was he awful, he missed a game during the series and the Cavs won by 30 without him. Kevin Love also wasn't an all star or an all nba player that year, so you can't say he just didn't have a good finals.

Or maybe you mean JR Smith was the superstar?

[Spurs m8]

Lebron fanboys distorting reality for years now. Arguing with these morons is impossible.

They're really not worth arguing with lol

Facts aren't LeBron stans friend

[Roundball_Rock]

I always find it hilarious that Kevin Love who was truly awful in the 2016 Finals counts as a "superstar" by Lebron haters. Not only was he awful, he missed a game during the series and the Cavs won by 30 without him. Kevin Love also wasn't an all star or an all nba player that year, so you can't say he just didn't have a good finals.

Or maybe you mean JR Smith was the superstar?

Love was 9/7/1 in the finals. Superstar! :lol

[Gus Hemmingway]

GOAT era then if Kareem is a sidekick in today's era. :bowdown: Meanwhile, in MJ's era--according to you and your disciples--Iggy would be a MVP candidate and ahead of prime Malone, prime Barkley in all-NBA among forwards in multiple years.

Jordan's rings can't be taken seriously under your/your disciples narrative, since the comp was pathetic.

3ball??

[TheCorporation]

Love was 9/7/1 in the finals. Superstar! :lol

Got them Kelly Olynyk #s :lol but even less

Olynyk in this year's Finals: 12/6/2

[3ball]

GOAT era then if Kareem is a sidekick in today's era. :bowdown: Meanwhile, in MJ's era--according to you and your disciples--Iggy would be a MVP candidate and ahead of prime Malone, prime Barkley in all-NBA among forwards in multiple years.

Jordan's rings can't be taken seriously under your/your disciples narrative, since the comp was pathetic.

No fool.. :facepalm:... kawhi beat the Curry Warriors with Lowry, while Lebron needed a big 3 super-team, an equal-scoring teammate and suspension to barely win

Lebron simply needs more talent because of his weak brand (ball-dominance)

Ultimately, Lebron and Magic have weak Finals records given their AD/Kareem sidekicks or big 3's.. they're ball-dominance causes this weak Finals record due to talent-based winning - Lebron's spot-up roles stall young players thereby requiring ready-made stars, aka talent-based winning

Ultimately, their ball-dominance hinders team ceiling and hurts championship expectation compared to guys like Bird or MJ

[TheCorporation]

No fool.. :facepalm:... kawhi beat the Curry Warriors with Lowry, while Lebron needed a big 3 super-team and equal-scoring teammate..

Lebron needs more talent because of his weak brand (ball-dominance)

Ultimately, Lebron and Magic have weak Finals records given their AD/Kareem sidekicks or big 3's.. they're ball-dominance causes this weak Finals record - Lebron's spot-up roles stall young players thereby requiring ready-made stars, aka talent-based winning

they're ball-dominance hinders team ceiling and hurts championship expectation compared to guys like Bird or MJ

Stop melting down fakkit, appreciate GOATness

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[Roundball_Rock]

This idiot is acting like Kawhi won with scrubs when his team without him did exactly the same as the Clippers (#2 seeds that lost in 7 in the second round to the conference runner up).

[3ball]

Stop melting down fakkit, appreciate GOATness

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5f83c31dfde35dff037c74bc/960x0.jpg?fit=scale

Lebron and Magic's ball-dominance causes lower team ceilings/weak Finals record and ultimately the need for talent-based winning - aka Lebron's spot-up roles stall young players thereby requiring ready-made stars, aka talent-based winning

Ultimately, their ball-dominance hinders team ceiling/Finals record and therefore hurts championship expectation compared to guys like Bird or MJ

[3ball]

This idiot is acting like Kawhi won with scrubs when his team without him did exactly the same as the Clippers (#2 seeds that lost in 7 in the second round to the conference runner up).

It's not fair to compare Lebron's teams to Kawhi's when they aren't there because their teams play vastly different brands and Kawhi's team's is better

Lebron's teams win 50+ games by having Lebron run Lebron-ball, so the team falls off when Caruso is tasked with running bron-ball.. otoh, the raptors keep moving the ball without kawhi and it's a more equitable offset of his loss, aka each guy steps up a few ppg

[Roundball_Rock]

LeBron will be known as the guy who won with 3 franchises as the best player. Get over it.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

LeBron will be known as the guy who won with 3 franchises as the best player. Get over it.

Yep 4x finals mvp and did it with 3 different franchises.
It will always amaze me that people can't just be impressed by certain things. I am no Tom Brady fan. Never cheered for the guy to have any success, but you got to tip your cap when a guy is that successful.

[TheCorporation]

Lebron and Magic's ball-dominance causes lower team ceilings/weak Finals record and ultimately the need for talent-based winning - aka Lebron's spot-up roles stall young players thereby requiring ready-made stars, aka talent-based winning

Ultimately, their ball-dominance hinders team ceiling/Finals record and therefore hurts championship expectation compared to guys like Bird or MJ

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz78fdg7/Le-Bron-Avy-Cigar-Smoke.jpg

[Roundball_Rock]

Yep 4x finals mvp and did it with 3 different franchises.
It will always amaze me that people can't just be impressed by certain things. I am no Tom Brady fan. Never cheered for the guy to have any success, but you got to tip your cap when a guy is that successful.

Yup. Make a counter argument for MJ on other grounds but you can't take away from what LeBron has done as a legend of his own, including some things MJ didn't do.

[Real14]

MJ
Kobe


Lebron never won a ring without 2 star teammates or a top 5 player sidekick.. and therefore sucks... compared to MJ

MJ won with his sidekick playing like Paul George

carry on

No lies:applause:

[red1]

LeBron will be known as the guy who won with 3 franchises as the best player. Get over it.

OP has taken another L and been exposed again as a drooling retard. another typical day for 3ball.:oldlol:

[Real14]

LeBron will be known as the guy who won with 3 franchises as the best player. Get over it.

but end being 4/10.

[Vino24]

but end being 4/10.

4 chips 4 mvps better than the entire franchise knicks

[Real14]

4 chips 4 mvps better than the entire franchise knicks

4 asterisks

[Roundball_Rock]

OP has taken another L and been exposed again as a drooling retard. another typical day for 3ball.:oldlol:

The forum jizz rag. :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Anthony Davis
Kyrie Irving
Kyle Lowry
Scottie Pippen


Lowry is clearly the one that sticks out to me. Lowry spent his Memphis career being an absolute nobody, zero 2nd or 1st all NBA teams, zero game 7 conference finals

Zero top 5 MVP voting for Lowry? Even Tony Parker had a top 5 MVP year and he was usually the 3rd best player for Duncan.

[Real14]

OP has taken another L and been exposed again as a drooling retard. another typical day for 3ball.:oldlol:

Exposed for telling the truth?