Kobe is still higher in the All Time List than LeBUM

[LeCramp]

Sorry, without AD you wouldn't have won. Last year you faked an "injury" just because you knew you weren't going to win the chip. Its ok congrats tho

[Shooter]

Sorry, without AD you wouldn't have won. Last year you faked an "injury" just because you knew you weren't going to win the chip. Its ok congrats tho

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[LeCramp]

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lol

[k 96]

5 of 7 > 4 of 10

[Real14]

definitely !

[Vino24]

Kobe wouldn’t have won without Shaq and Pau

[Real14]

Kobe wouldn’t have won without Shaq and Pau

Lebron wouldn't have won without Wade, Bosh, Allen, Irving and A.D.

[Vino24]

Lebron wouldn't have won without Wade, Bosh, Allen, Irving and A.D.

So you need teammates to win in a team sport?

[BigKobeFan]

2011 and the Decision still exist.

[red1]

no need to hate.



just breathe deeply my dude.




you'll be alright.

[Real14]

2011 and the Decision still exist.

Exactly! 2013 bailout and 2016 bailout plus suspension too.

[Mr. Woke]

Definitely not IMO.

Kobe is not on the level of the King. Plus he isn't as likable.

[JimiKage]

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[Vino24]

2fmvp vs 4

[Real14]

2fmvp vs 4

5-2 or 4-6

[Vino24]

5-2 or 4-6

3 Shaq 2nd fiddle rings

[Real14]

3 Shaq 2nd fiddle rings

Kobe helped carried the lakers too, don't front.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Let’s be realistic, Kobe is not even a top 10 player of all time and the comparison is obsolete already. Better question will be KD vs Kobe or Curry vs Kobe, Lebron will be compared to the even greater players like Kareem and Magic nowadays.

[Real14]

Let’s be realistic, Kobe is not even a top 10 player of all time and the comparison is obsolete already. Better question will be KD vs Kobe or Curry vs Kobe, Lebron will be compared to the even greater players like Kareem and Magic nowadays.

Reported for stupidity.

[brownmamba00]

Crazy how bran won a chip for LA but the streets are still chanting kobe's name :biggums:

Kobe really is the people's GOAT:bowdown:

[SouBeachTalents]

Crazy how bran won a chip for LA but the streets are still chanting kobe's name :biggums:

Kobe really is the people's GOAT:bowdown:
You really that surprised by that :lol

[Mr. Woke]

Crazy how bran won a chip for LA but the streets are still chanting kobe's name :biggums:

Kobe really is the people's GOAT:bowdown:

I personally will always have greater respect/admiration for LeBron.

[Real14]

Crazy how bran won a chip for LA but the streets are still chanting kobe's name :biggums:

Kobe really is the people's GOAT:bowdown:

They know that Lebum will never be better than Kobe, that's why.

[3ball]

Lebron is a couple bounces away from 2/10

Being a lucky bounces away from being a 2/10 bum is strong evidence that he isn't anywhere near goat

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron is a couple bounces away from 2/10

Being a lucky bounces away from being a 2/10 bum is strong evidence that he isn't anywhere near goat
He's also losing his two best teammates away from 5/10, potentially 6-7/10 if not for running into the GOAT Warriors

[brownmamba00]

https://youtu.be/7E-ATncYWGA

GOAT

More than an athlete

[Real14]

Lebron is a couple bounces away from 2/10

Being a lucky bounces away from being a 2/10 bum is strong evidence that he isn't anywhere near goat

Don't forget about that phantom call in game 2 2012 finals that shifted the momentum of the series.

[3ball]

He's also losing his two best teammates away from 5/10, potentially 6-7/10 if not for running into the GOAT Warriors

I'll give him 2015 - he probably sweeps the Curry Warriors with Kyrie.. everyone beats the Curry warriors

But he loses in 18' with Kyrie because he wasn't competitive with Kyrie the previous year in 17'

Ultimately, if we give lebron the 15' ring, then we take away 13' or 16' because no one runs perfect - heck, MJ would've had the goat carry,-jobs in 88-90'' if pippen didn't disappear

Btw, lebron could've won in 2007 if he got the same production out of Hughes that shooting guards like Arenas did (peak pippen production and defense).. regardless, 07' is a black mark because no one gets a pass for 22 on 35%

[8Ball]

2020 is delicious. We are breaking Jordan stans left and right.

They coming out like vampires and we driving stakes into their hearts.

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[HoopsNY]

Kobe was a great player, but I'm not sure he was even top 10. He certainly isn't anywhere near LeBron's level.

[Real14]

Kobe was a great player, but I'm not sure he was even top 10. He certainly isn't anywhere near LeBron's level.

Reported for stupidity.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'll give him 2015 - he probably sweeps the Curry Warriors with Kyrie.. everyone beats the Curry warriors

But he loses in 18' with Kyrie because he wasn't competitive with Kyrie the previous year in 17'

Ultimately, if we give lebron the 15' ring, then we take away 13' or 16' because no one runs perfect - heck, MJ would've had the goat carry,-jobs in 88-90'' if pippen didn't disappear

Btw, lebron could've won in 2007 if he got the same production out of Hughes that shooting guards like Arenas did (peak pippen production and defense).. regardless, 07' is a black mark because no one gets a pass for 22 on 35%
But this is where ring counting becomes detrimental. Both LeBron & Jordan had some of their greatest playoff runs in years they didn't win the title ('88-'90, '09 & '17/'18) I find it so ridiculous they get SO much more credit and praise when not playing as well in other seasons just because their team circumstance were more fortunate. Same goes for another GOAT candidate in Kareem, who won the vast majority of his titles way past his prime

[r0drig0lac]

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[HoopsNY]

Reported for stupidity.

What's so stupid about it? Go look at Kobe's track record in the NBA finals and during elimination games, as well as overall playoff performances year by year. You'll be disappointed when you see how much better LeBron has performed in all three areas.

In addition, what does he do so much better than LeBron? You could argue that he was a better high volume scorer, but that might be about it along with free throws and defense.

But you cannot overlook Kobe's track record when it comes to the playoffs. In addition, Kobe had a peak Shaq for his first 3 titles, whereas LeBron was unquestionably the best player for every title run.

And then there are the advanced metrics. It's really not close.

[Axe]

Kobe was a great player, but I'm not sure he was even top 10. He certainly isn't anywhere near LeBron's level.
But you can't say that kobe himself is worse than stephen curry right?

[Real14]

What's so stupid about it? Go look at Kobe's track record in the NBA finals and during elimination games, as well as overall playoff performances year by year. You'll be disappointed when you see how much better LeBron has performed in all three areas.

In addition, what does he do so much better than LeBron? You could argue that he was a better high volume scorer, but that might be about it along with free throws and defense.

But you cannot overlook Kobe's track record when it comes to the playoffs. In addition, Kobe had a peak Shaq for his first 3 titles, whereas LeBron was unquestionably the best player for every title run.

And then there are the advanced metrics. It's really not close.

False. Kobe is such a better player than LeBitch plus LeBitch had better players than him like A.D and Wade. Even Irving scored 41 in a finals game. That's insane!

[Fedor - Laker]

Sorry, without AD you wouldn't have won. Last year you faked an "injury" just because you knew you weren't going to win the chip. Its ok congrats tho

Before the injury, LeBron single handidly took that bum "YOUNG CORE" roster to 4th seed in the Western Conference. Nice twisting of history there hater.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

False. Kobe is such a better player than LeBitch plus LeBitch had better players than him like A.D and Wade. Even Irving scored 41 in a finals game. That's insane!

Lol, you bring up Lebron's teammate scoring 41 and say "that is insane!"

Kobe had a teammate score over 40 points in a finals game 5x. And that series that Kyrie dropped 41 in, Lebron led the series not just his team in point, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks in beating a 73 win opponent with the unanimous mvp of the league on it.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

What's so stupid about it? Go look at Kobe's track record in the NBA finals and during elimination games, as well as overall playoff performances year by year. You'll be disappointed when you see how much better LeBron has performed in all three areas.

In addition, what does he do so much better than LeBron? You could argue that he was a better high volume scorer, but that might be about it along with free throws and defense.

But you cannot overlook Kobe's track record when it comes to the playoffs. In addition, Kobe had a peak Shaq for his first 3 titles, whereas LeBron was unquestionably the best player for every title run.

And then there are the advanced metrics. It's really not close.

Two of the biggest myths are Kobe was better in the clutch than Lebron. Facts don't bear that out. Lebron is a much better late game playoff performer than Kobe was. The other bigger myth is that Kobe was better in the Finals. Imagine all these Lebron haters and how they would roast him if he won a ring scoring 15ppg on 36% shooting while Anthony Davis put up 38/15? Even with Lebron getting a ring you would never hear the end of it about how he was carried.

The series we just witnessed, Lebron put up 30/12/8 on 59% shooting and 41% shooting from 3. That would be Kobe's best finals of his career if he did that. For Lebron, it is just another series.

[ImKobe]

5/7 beats 4/10 (more Finals appearances due to all-time weak EC from 07-18)
Kobe didn't have a lockout year ring or a 4-month break between RS & Playoffs, Lebron needed 4 months off and no crowd + no traveling + injuries to the opponents' best players in RD1, RD2 and Finals to win his 4th, needed game-saving/winning shots + suspension & injuries to barely win in '13 & '16.

[Gougou]

Yeah man all of the co-worker at my office thinks Kobe is better still...

[MaxPlayer]

Yeah man all of the co-worker at my office thinks Kobe is better still...

Quit immediately

[BigtimeNBAFan]

5/7 beats 4/10 (more Finals appearances due to all-time weak EC from 07-18)
Kobe didn't have a lockout year ring or a 4-month break between RS & Playoffs, Lebron needed 4 months off and no crowd + no traveling + injuries to the opponents' best players in RD1 and Finals to win his 4th, needed game-saving/winning shots + suspension & injuries to barely win in '13 & '16.

Did you actually follow Kobe's career? Do you know how many big shots his teammates hit? From Derek Fisher to Robert Horry to Ron Artest? He literally was saved after an airball against the Suns by Artest on his last title run. And spare me the "help" nonsense. Kobe wasn't the best player on 3 of his 5 titles. Imagine if Lebron won a title scoring 15 ppg on 36% shooting while having a teammate put up 38/15? Lebron has been the undisputed leader of his team every season and has double the finals mvps to go along with quadruple the regular mvps.

[ImKobe]

Did you actually follow Kobe's career? Do you know how many big shots his teammates hit? From Derek Fisher to Robert Horry to Ron Artest? He literally was saved after an airball against the Suns by Artest on his last title run. And spare me the "help" nonsense. Kobe wasn't the best player on 3 of his 5 titles. Imagine if Lebron won a title scoring 15 ppg on 36% shooting while having a teammate put up 38/15? Lebron has been the undisputed leader of his team every season and has double the finals mvps to go along with quadruple the regular mvps.

The only big shot in your post is the Horry one, though it's not as big of a shot, the Fisher shot in '04 was great but again not in elimination and Horry cost us the Spurs series in '03 with his all-time bad 3PT shooting. Again, Kobe never needed a bailout last-second shot in elimination.

Kobe was the best Player in '01 Playoffs. Him and Lebron were both the best players in 3 title runs but Kobe has 5 to his 4. Tell me that Kobe's '01 run is worse than any of Lebron's, it's laughable. You can save your time googling the efficiency numbers when comparing different eras as well. '01 Kobe led the Lakers in winshares, was top 5 in clutch scoring + clutch efficiency in the POs and #1 in RAPM.

[SouBeachTalents]

The only big shot in your post is the Horry one, though it's not as big of a shot, the Fisher shot in '04 was great but again not in elimination and Horry cost us the Spurs series in '03 with his all-time bad 3PT shooting. Again, Kobe never needed a bailout last-second shot in elimination.

Kobe was the best Player in '01 Playoffs. Him and Lebron were both the best players in 3 title runs but Kobe has 5 to his 4. Tell me that Kobe's '01 run is worse than any of Lebron's, it's laughable. You can save your time googling the efficiency numbers when comparing different eras as well. '01 Kobe led the Lakers in winshares, was top 5 in clutch scoring + clutch efficiency in the POs and #1 in RAPM.
Fisher's 3 against the Magic & Artest's GW against the Suns were series changing shots. That's not even including Gasol's series winner against OKC :lol

[ImKobe]

Fisher's 3 against the Magic & Artest's GW against the Suns were series changing shots. That's not even including Gasol's series winner against OKC :lol

They weren't in elimination games.

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron is a better ball player than kobe bryant.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

LeBron only has 1 ring without a mega star next to him (2013). Kobe has 2 rings without a mega star next to him 2009/10. So by rings, Kobe is still better.

[ImKobe]

LeBron only has 1 ring without a mega star next to him (2013). Kobe has 2 rings without a mega star next to him 2009/10. So by rings, Kobe is still better.

Wade was still a mega star in '13, especially during their 27-game win streak and in key Finals games, he was the 2nd leading scorer in the series.

[SouBeachTalents]

Wade was still a mega star in '13, especially during their 27-game win streak and in key Finals games, he was the 2nd leading scorer in the series.
Gasol was the 2nd leading scorer in both the '09 & '10 Finals

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Wade was still a mega star in '13, especially during their 27-game win streak and in key Finals games, he was the 2nd leading scorer in the series.

That was after Wade had his knee drained though. Wade wasn't all that in 2013. I still said Kobe anyway, you Kobe fans are greedy or insecure.

[ImKobe]

Gasol was the 2nd leading scorer in both the '09 & '10 Finals

Still not on Wade's level.


That was after Wade had his knee drained though. Wade wasn't all that in 2013. I still said Kobe anyway, you Kobe fans are greedy or insecure.

Just pointing out the obvious. Wade was a monster during their win streak and had his best game of the POs when they were down 1 - 2 to the Spurs on the road.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Still not on Wade's level.



Just pointing out the obvious. Wade was a monster during their win streak and had his best game of the POs when they were down 1 - 2 to the Spurs on the road.

3.1 BPM, 10% win share per 48, barely sniffing 50% TS. Nothing about that says obvious mega co star

[Real14]

Lol, you bring up Lebron's teammate scoring 41 and say "that is insane!"

Kobe had a teammate score over 40 points in a finals game 5x. And that series that Kyrie dropped 41 in, Lebron led the series not just his team in point, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks in beating a 73 win opponent with the unanimous mvp of the league on it.

Shaq was the a1 leader so he had to score many points. 2016 finals was rigged because Draymond called Lebron a bitch and got suspended for that.

[Real14]

Wade was still a mega star in '13, especially during their 27-game win streak and in key Finals games, he was the 2nd leading scorer in the series.

Tell him.

[light]

Sorry, without AD you wouldn't have won. Last year you faked an "injury" just because you knew you weren't going to win the chip. Its ok congrats tho

LeBron was the GOAT before this season started while Kobe was 12th.

Kobe has risen to the top 8-10 in death, but LeBron is still the GOAT.

[RRR3]

ImKobe definitely broke a few personal items last night. Imagine arguing 2 rings as the best player is better than 4 :biggums:

[FireDavidKahn]

Not even Kobe would say that.

:roll:

OP is a disgrace

[HoopsNY]

False. Kobe is such a better player than LeBitch plus LeBitch had better players than him like A.D and Wade. Even Irving scored 41 in a finals game. That's insane!

And Kobe had a peak Shaq for most of his titles and finals appearances, so what?