Kyrie has had more success without LeBron than MJ without Pippen

[AirBonner]

Thoughts?

[Axe]

Especially after getting traded to a top-seed team that made the ecf once before he even got there.

[3ball]

You guys need a bigger sample size without pippen

Using his first 2 years and last 2 when he's 40 is a pathetic argument

The reality is that MJ won anytime he had a 1 or 2 seed (6-0).. no one else did that - virtually everyone has 5+ losses with 1 or 2 seeds.. MJ was simply the most unbeatable player

Imagine if he had Kareem and Worthy in the 80's - Jordan would be 9-0, while Magic was 5-4.. that's how great MJ was

[SouBeachTalents]

You guys need a bigger sample size without pippen

Using his first 2 years and last 2 when he's 40 is a pathetic argument

The reality is that MJ won anytime he had a 1 or 2 seed (6-0).. no one else did that - virtually everyone has 5+ losses with 1 or 2 seeds.. MJ was simply the most unbeatable player

Imagine if he had Kareem and Worthy in the 80's - Jordan would be 9-0, while Magic was 5-4.. that's how great MJ was
Imagine if Hakeem had Pippen & Jordan had Otis Thorpe

[TheCorporation]

Let's do the analytics here OP. Great question by the way.

MJ = 5 years without Pippen = 1 playoff game win
Kyrie = 3 years without Papa Bron = 5 playoff game wins

Kyrie has already passed MJ and he still has 2 more years to accumulate more wins.

[TheCorporation]

Imagine if Hakeem had Pippen & Jordan had Otis Thorpe

Hakeem might be a top 3 all timer and MJ well...Yikes

[3ball]

Imagine if Hakeem had Pippen & Jordan had Otis Thorpe

Hakeem had the luxury of Pippen at 3rd option in 99', but lost in the 1st Round

Only MJ could win with the forward version of Larry Hughes

And btw, do you think Hughes would only have one 1st team defense alongside MJ??...... ha!

[SouBeachTalents]

Hakeem had the luxury of Pippen at 3rd option in 99', but lost in the 1st Round

Only MJ could win with the forward version of Larry Hughes

And btw, do you think Hughes would only have one 1st team defense alongside MJ??...... ha!
You really using 36 year old Hakeem as an example :lol Jordan wasn't even in the league at that age

[3ball]

You really using 36 year old Hakeem as an example :lol Jordan wasn't even in the league at that age

Pippen was 3rd option on that team, so it was more stacked then the bulls

Yet 1st round exit... Lololololol

Again, only MJ could win with pippen, aka Paul George but with worse stats

[Ainosterhaspie]

Nope. Celtics did better without him than with him. He didn't elevate them, they elevated him. He was along for the ride. Riding a team's coattails isn't anything of note. Other than Celtics carrying him to the playoffs, he has his top lottery teams before LeBron showed up.

[SouBeachTalents]

Pippen was 3rd option on that team, so it was more stacked then the bulls

Yet 1st round exit... Lololololol

Again, only MJ could win with pippen, aka Paul George but with worse stats
I'm pretty sure Hakeem & Ewing are winning with Pippen in '94

[Spurs m8]

Thoughts?

Another day, another 10 MJ threads by this f@ggot

I bet MJ is the first and last thing you think about each day

[3ball]

I'm pretty sure Hakeem & Ewing are winning with Pippen in '94

You're adding them to a full team already, so your example doesn't wprk

I'm sure the 99' rockets win if they added Duncan to Hakeem/Barkley/Pippen.. but if it's just Duncan/Pippen, no way lol

[And1AllDay]

Imagine if Hakeem had Pippen & Jordan had Otis Thorpe

:crazysam:

issa wrap

hakeem over mike

[Roundball_Rock]

Imagine if Hakeem had Pippen & Jordan had Otis Thorpe

Yup. The results switch. The Rockets become the dynasty and Jordan/Thorpe win 2 rings with the Bulls.

[Goldrush25]

The primary mission of MJ loyalists is to diminish every bit of help he ever had.

[Roundball_Rock]

The primary mission of MJ loyalists is to diminish every bit of help he ever had.

Yup. :oldlol: