Do Americans Believe Trump Had Covid?

[n00bie]

As an outsider looking in, I was just curious what Americans thought. I'd say most of the people outside of America believe Trump probably faked it. The timing was strange.. right after his embarrassing debate with Biden.

Also, if his treatment was so successful, why arent they rolling this out to every hospital in the world? Who needs a vaccine if we know how to kill the virus in a week with seniors?

So do Americans believe Trump recovered from the virus in a week? Or do they believe he faked it for the polls?

[BigKobeFan]

I believe he has tiger's blood that fought off the covid flu in 2 days.

[rawimpact]

As an outsider looking in, I was just curious what Americans thought. I'd say most of the people outside of America believe Trump probably faked it. The timing was strange.. right after his embarrassing debate with Biden.

Also, if his treatment was so successful, why arent they rolling this out to every hospital in the world? Who needs a vaccine if we know how to kill the virus in a week with seniors?

So do Americans believe Trump recovered from the virus in a week? Or do they believe he faked it for the polls?

Then most people outside of the US are dumb and are ignorant on COVID data that has come out.


The overall cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate through the week ending October 3, 2020 was 183.2 per 100,000 population.Following an initial decline of hospitalization rates between the weeks ending July 25 (MMWR week 30) and August 22 (MMWR week 34), weekly hospitalization rates have remained steady among all age groups. Data for the most recent weeks may change as additional admissions occurring during those weeks are reported.
The age-adjusted hospitalization rate for Hispanic or Latino persons was approximately 4.6 times that of non-Hispanic White persons. Age-adjusted hospitalization rates for both non-Hispanic Black persons and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native persons were approximately 4.5 times that of non-Hispanic White persons.


Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html


So less than 0.1% require hospitalization (even less if you take into account he's white). Trump obviously has the best resources (possibly in the world) and you're telling me his mild symptoms couldn't improve in over two weeks?

I don't think he faked it knowing how much he hates being wrong. I'm sure he would have loved to say he never got it during his presidency because of hydroxychloroquine.

[n00bie]

Then most people outside of the US are dumb and are ignorant on COVID data that has come out.



Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html


So less than 0.1% require hospitalization (even less if you take into account he's white). Trump obviously has the best resources (possibly in the world) and you're telling me his mild symptoms couldn't improve in over two weeks?

I don't think he faked it knowing how much he hates being wrong. I'm sure he would have loved to say he never got it during his presidency because of hydroxychloroquine.

I'm not talking about hospitalization rates though. I'm talking about an obese elderly getting rid of the virus in a week.

[Patrick Chewing]

He did. A severe case of it. And he beat it. Because he's the Teflon Don.

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[Patrick Chewing]

I believe he has tiger's blood that fought off the covid flu in 2 days.

This is also true.

[jstern]

From what country are you from? You seem to be lacking basic common sense knowledge about how certain things work in the US.

The Covid, or whatever you want to call it was a novel virus out of Wuhan. That means it was new, nobody had ever seen it. And such viruses do not come with an instruction booklet that says, "This is exactly how it works, this is how to treat it, Regeneron is the one." As the months passed by, with the whole world focused on this China virus, with thousands of doctors treating it, the knowledge about the China virus and how to better deal with it increases. Here in the US, it usually takes many years for the development of a vaccines and other drug related stuff, because things have to be overly tested. But with Trump's Operation Warp speed things are able to move much faster than normal. The Regeneron cocktail that was given to Trump is still in it's development phases, as such is not available to give out to tens of thousands of people. Trump is the President of the United States and was given Regeneron under a compassionate case. Or whatever that's call. But no, a finger cannot be snapped to make millions of doses of the Reneron cocktail to appear ready to be given to people, with a guarantee that it's not going to cause major negative side effects to a large portion of those who will take it.

But yeah, that's basically the main difference, expectation between the US and a 3rd world country. In the US things have to be tested and tested, and tested, it has to go beyond the up and up. Any minor issue with a vaccine, and everything stops. While in a 3rd world country it's probably more like start giving people vaccinations after a week see what happens. If they die they die.

[starface]

OP fuming that Big Don Thicc made OP's months-long Chicken Little virus hysteria look completely absurd.

[dude77]

he looked sick when he was supposedly sick .. don't think he was faking

[tpols]

The Don conquered the virus just how he's conquered the world. And shown all you soft euro baguette munching pansies to stop shivering in fear over a common cold virus.

[Axe]

he looked sick when he was supposedly sick .. don't think he was faking
Considering how old he already is, one could think how extraordinary he is with the way he recovered in a short time.

[rawimpact]

I'm not talking about hospitalization rates though. I'm talking about an obese elderly getting rid of the virus in a week.

No... you also questioned whether he had it or not.

Otherwise are you asking the question with the preassumption that he had it? If so why the latter question asking if he faked it.

[n00bie]

From what country are you from? You seem to be lacking basic common sense knowledge about how certain things work in the US.

The Covid, or whatever you want to call it was a novel virus out of Wuhan. That means it was new, nobody had ever seen it. And such viruses do not come with an instruction booklet that says, "This is exactly how it works, this is how to treat it, Regeneron is the one." As the months passed by, with the whole world focused on this China virus, with thousands of doctors treating it, the knowledge about the China virus and how to better deal with it increases. Here in the US, it usually takes many years for the development of a vaccines and other drug related stuff, because things have to be overly tested. But with Trump's Operation Warp speed things are able to move much faster than normal. The Regeneron cocktail that was given to Trump is still in it's development phases, as such is not available to give out to tens of thousands of people. Trump is the President of the United States and was given Regeneron under a compassionate case. Or whatever that's call. But no, a finger cannot be snapped to make millions of doses of the Reneron cocktail to appear ready to be given to people, with a guarantee that it's not going to cause major negative side effects to a large portion of those who will take it.

But yeah, that's basically the main difference, expectation between the US and a 3rd world country. In the US things have to be tested and tested, and tested, it has to go beyond the up and up. Any minor issue with a vaccine, and everything stops. While in a 3rd world country it's probably more like start giving people vaccinations after a week see what happens. If they die they die.

I'm in Canada.

You're trying to tell me I lack common sense, and then you go on a rant about how vaccines and drugs in the U.S. go through a rigorous testing period to ensure there are no negative effects... yet they tried it on the President?

So you're saying this cocktail is too risky for the public, but they were ok to risk the Presidents life with it?

[n00bie]

Considering how old he already is, one could think how extraordinary he is with the way he recovered in a short time.

That's exactly what I'm saying. All these conspiracy theorists about covid are suddenly getting upset about a possible conspiracy that Trump may have faked this for the polls.

[jstern]

I'm in Canada.

You're trying to tell me I lack common sense, and then you go on a rant about how vaccines and drugs in the U.S. go through a rigorous testing period to ensure there are no negative effects... yet they tried it on the President?

So you're saying this cocktail is too risky for the public, but they were ok to risk the Presidents life with it?

What I said was very simple, if a person has a good level of common sense. If a person can see things beyond black and white. It seems like you're not capable of understanding the simple nuances. I know it seems as though I'm just being insulting, but that's only because I always try to express the reality of what I see. At first I thought that it was because you were from a 3rd world country and thus couldn't relate to the way certain things are done.

[TheMan]

As an outsider looking in, I was just curious what Americans thought. I'd say most of the people outside of America believe Trump probably faked it. The timing was strange.. right after his embarrassing debate with Biden.

Also, if his treatment was so successful, why arent they rolling this out to every hospital in the world? Who needs a vaccine if we know how to kill the virus in a week with seniors?

So do Americans believe Trump recovered from the virus in a week? Or do they believe he faked it for the polls?
I dunno man, if they faked it, didn't help much.

[n00bie]

What I said was very simple, if a person has a good level of common sense. If a person can see things beyond black and white. It seems like you're not capable of understanding the simple nuances. I know it seems as though I'm just being insulting, but that's only because I always try to express the reality of what I see. At first I thought that it was because you were from a 3rd world country and thus couldn't relate to the way certain things are done.

You didn't answer my question, instead you started talking to yourself.

You could have just replied with a yes or no.

Anyway let me ask again.

So you're saying this cocktail is too risky for the public, but they were ok to risk the Presidents life with it?

[Pushxx]

He's the president of the US I'm pretty sure it wasn't hard for him to get the best medical care in the entire world when he had covid

[Axe]

How can he get the best out of them if they don't even like him

[Rocket]

Why in the world would anyone think he didn't have it?

[n00bie]

Why in the world would anyone think he didn't have it?

So he can prove to the public that he was right all along to downplay the virus?

He can now be known as the President who beat the virus.

[TheMan]

So he can prove to the public that he was right all along to downplay the virus?

He can now be known as the President who beat the virus.

Boris Johnson? Jair Bolsanaro?

[Phong]

So he can prove to the public that he was right all along to downplay the virus?

He can now be known as the President who beat the virus. Prove to what public?

Conservatives either believe that we can't live in fear of the virus or think it's a hoax. Trump beating the virus won't change what they already believed, just reinforce it.

Liberals think that he either faked it or that he's a superspreader who's putting everybody in danger. Either way: orange man bad!

I think he caught it but it was a mild case. A lot of people in his entourage were also tested positive. Did they all fake it?

[jstern]

You didn't answer my question, instead you started talking to yourself.

You could have just replied with a yes or no.

Anyway let me ask again.

So you're saying this cocktail is too risky for the public, but they were ok to risk the Presidents life with it?

No, the cocktail was not too risky for the public, else they wouldn't have given it to the President. The part that you don't seem to be understanding is the process that must be navigated by pharmaceutical companies in order to get something to the public. They cannot just snap their fingers, everybody gets it.

It's similar to self driving cars. Sure current models could be safer than your average person, but they still have to go through testing phases for many more years to come.

I think what I said was simple to understand, but I just feel that your way of thinking would dismiss the point that I'm trying to make and be like, "But Uber had a pedestrian fatality back in 2018."

[bladefd]

No, the cocktail was not too risky for the public, else they wouldn't have given it to the President. The part that you don't seem to be understanding is the process that must be navigated by pharmaceutical companies in order to get something to the public. They cannot just snap their fingers, everybody gets it.

The president can get whatever he needs at the snap of a finger. It's not the same for the rest of us average folks. Just how the system is setup unfortunately.

It is certainly flawed, and the first step to the solution is to get the middle man of insurance companies out of the way. The middle man should only be involved in management part of the deal and be non-profit. That is not what insurance companies are so we need to change that.

[baudkarma]

Prove to what public?

Conservatives either believe that we can't live in fear of the virus or think it's a hoax. Trump beating the virus won't change what they already believed, just reinforce it.

Liberals think that he either faked it or that he's a superspreader who's putting everybody in danger. Either way: orange man bad!

I think he caught it but it was a mild case. A lot of people in his entourage were also tested positive. Did they all fake it?

People at either extreme end of the political spectrum are not going to have their minds changed by anything. But there are many, many moderates who can still be persuaded to change their vote. One of the major crticisms of Trump is the way he responded to the virus. That he waited too long, he downplayed the danger, and when he did finally repond the measures he took weren't nearly strong enough. Him having allegedly caught Covid-19 allows him to deflect those criticisms. "Well, speaking as someone who contracted the virus, and has fully recovered, I can confidently say...." and then he spins whatever lie he wants. In many peoples minds the fact that he had the virus will make what he says seem more believable.

I initially thought that Trump might be faking it just for that reason, but when I saw the list of White House staffers who also tested positive I changed my mind. There are just too many people involved for a conspiracy to work. Not just WH staff, but the doctors, nurses, hospital workers, lab staff... thats probably hundreds of people.