Looks like Biden lied about having no involvement with his son's Ukraine dealings

[Long Duck Dong]

Joe Biden has repeatedly said he's never talked with his son about Hunter's business dealings in the Ukraine. According to information off Hunter Biden's computer, him and his father DID meet with an member of Burisma holdings in 2015 while he was VP. The same company that was writing big checks to Hunter and who was being investigated by the prosecutor who Joe Biden demanded the removal of and was promptly fired.

Just in time for the election. Dirty tactics to be sure but after all the Russiagate BS turnabout is fairplay

There's some sexually explicit photos with women and other embarrassing stuff on the computer too


https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-introduced-father-burisma-121318628.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/14/15/34382434-8838939-image-a-5_1602685692337.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/14/15/34387794-8838939-image-a-6_1602685746839.jpg

[starface]

Cmon man!

[Patrick Chewing]

Dude parties hard.

https://i.ibb.co/c6DtTw3/Ek-STv-Z3-WAAEUKaz.jpg


Crackpipe Hunter

[Long Duck Dong]

Dude parties hard.

https://i.ibb.co/c6DtTw3/Ek-STv-Z3-WAAEUKaz.jpg


Crackpipe Hunter

Not a peep yet from MSNBC, CNN, NYT or any of the other usual suspects. If this had been Trump, it would have been blasted front page on all of them already. News is so partisan these days

[starface]

Will ItsMillerTime weigh in!?

[Long Duck Dong]

I used to respect Giuliani. He was a hero to the nation at one point among partisan lines but he's a hitman thug at this point. Still I can't deny he's an effective soldier of the Trump campaign. I have no doubt we'll be seeing even worse photos and dirt on Biden in the coming days. You gotta be careful what you out on your computer these days.

[CelticBaller]

Hail Mary attempt at winning the election

[ZenMaster]

I used to respect Giuliani. He was a hero to the nation at one point among partisan lines but he's a hitman thug at this point. Still I can't deny he's an effective soldier of the Trump campaign. I have no doubt we'll be seeing even worse photos and dirt on Biden in the coming days. You gotta be careful what you out on your computer these days.

Word around the web is that here are 1000+ pics coming out in the next 5 days.

Amazingly enough you can't post links to the NY Post story on Twitter, or at least many are having problems with it, and Facebook is removing the information as well until "fact checked".

https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1316446749729398790

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkTJINLXYAAP-DB?format=png&name=900x900

[Long Duck Dong]

Hail Mary attempt at winning the election

And what was the Russia witch hunt about? That was legit right? :oldlol:

[Long Duck Dong]

The leftist media trying their best to keep this under wraps. :oldlol:

Is this a dirty underhanded hit job? You bet

Is it the left's comeuppance for their pathetic hit jobs on Trump and Brett Kavanaugh? You bet

[CelticBaller]

And what was the Russia witch hunt about? That was legit right? :oldlol:
Whataboutism

[Long Duck Dong]

This is pathetic. FB and Twitter admitting they are actively reducing circulation of this story until they see harder evidence. But the Jennifer Griffin story with unamed sources saying Trump dispararaged troops was allowed to run on Twitter no problem. :facepalm

Just the fact that there's a photo of Hunter Biden with a crackpipe in his mouth is enough to let it run.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/14/19/34398018-8840113-image-a-28_1602701669276.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

This kind of blatant censorship should not be allowed. And it's so obvious too. This is basically Big Tech protecting a political candidate who has evidence against them of wrongdoing.


The whole system is corrupt too. I just saw that the emails were given to the FBI months ago and apparently they have nothing with it.


And people doubt the Deep State.

[Hittin_Shots]

Whataboutism

Whataboutism is a fkn stupid argument against actual legit arguments. Congrats on being a fkwit.

[bladefd]

I don't care. Get Trump out of office then we will talk.

Page right out of the Republican book, isn't that right? Looks hypocritical, but hey Republicans would do the same if it was the other way around (recall Lindsey Graham saying that word-for-word about the Supreme court justice nomination couple weeks ago). It used to be "If you go low, we will go high", but Graham & Republicans took that out of play in 2016 then going back on their word 2 weeks before this election. So get lost with this story and if you don't like it, tough luck. Go play in traffic.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't care. Get Trump out of office then we will talk.

Page right out of the Republican book, isn't that right? Looks hypocritical, but hey Republicans would do the same if it was the other way around (recall Lindsey Graham saying that word-for-word about the Supreme court justice nomination couple weeks ago). It used to be "If you go low, we will go high", but Graham & Republicans took that out of play in 2016 then going back on their word 2 weeks before this election. So get lost with this story and if you don't like it, tough luck. Go play in traffic.

:facepalm


You're an embarrassment.

[FourthTenor]

I don't care. Get Trump out of office then we will talk.

Page right out of the Republican book, isn't that right? Looks hypocritical, but hey Republicans would do the same if it was the other way around (recall Lindsey Graham saying that word-for-word about the Supreme court justice nomination couple weeks ago). It used to be "If you go low, we will go high", but Graham & Republicans took that out of play in 2016 then going back on their word 2 weeks before this election. So get lost with this story and if you don't like it, tough luck. Go play in traffic.


Except it has nothing to do with Republicans. You're making a completely illogical strawman argument.

This is about tech companies who, as public forums, are supposed to remain neutral by law, when it comes to legal free speech. In exchange for not being held liable for the content people randomly upload to their site, they have to ensure free and fair rights of speech. That's a law.

You're the guy always complaining about corporatism, and now you are cheering on the Orwellian suppression of basic public information by those in control of speech, because it happens to scratch the itch you have about Orange Man.

You are a fool of the highest order. Nobody here has taken you seriously to begin with obviously, but now you've basically exposed yourself as a proactive fascist.

Well done.

[bladefd]

:facepalm


You're an embarrassment.

Go play in traffic with Donald and Lindsey. Maybe Ted Cruz, Matt Gatz, Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan will come join you. You all belong together.

Oh and Rudy. Bring him too.

[Patrick Chewing]

blade creates fantasy whataboutism scenarios in an attempt to distract from the corruption that can no longer be ignored by the Democrats.


"Wuhhh the Republicans do it all time! Wahhh! Wahhh!" Do they?? Prove it. Otherwise shut the **** up.

[bladefd]

Except it has nothing to do with Republicans. You're making a completely illogical strawman argument.

This is about tech companies who, as public forums, are supposed to remain neutral by law, when it comes to legal free speech. In exchange for not being held liable for the content people randomly upload to their site, they have to ensure free and fair rights of speech. That's a law.

You're the guy always complaining about corporatism, and now you are cheering on the Orwellian suppression of basic public information by those in control of speech, because it happens to scratch the itch you have about Orange Man.

You are a fool of the highest order. Nobody here has taken you seriously to begin with obviously, but now you've basically exposed yourself as a proactive fascist.

Well done.

Hey, the Trump tower meeting never happened with any Russian agent, right? What did Donald Trump jr call it?? FAKE NEWS.

Likewise, this is also FAKE NEWS. Best of luck on November 3.

[Patrick Chewing]

blade, I don't want to see your sorry ass on this board any more once Donald Trump wipes the floor with Joe Biden. Understand?? You better.

[bladefd]

blade creates fantasy whataboutism scenarios in an attempt to distract from the corruption that can no longer be ignored by the Democrats.


"Wuhhh the Republicans do it all time! Wahhh! Wahhh!" Do they?? Prove it. Otherwise shut the **** up.

Good luck on November 3.

Then when next year comes, you will see me say "Hey, the people chose who they chose. Don't steal the election from the people." Isn't that what you Republicans said in 2019 after the Ukraine scandal??

You can impeach Biden if you have a problem with it. Isn't that what Trump lawyers said to Congress in defense of Trump in the courts?

"BUT HILLARY!!" Isn't that what Republicans always flipped it into? BUUUUT TRUMP.

I don't need any original defense. I simply throw your own book on you. Enjoy it.

[BigKobeFan]

blade, I don't want to see your sorry ass on this board any more once Donald Trump wipes the floor with Joe Biden. Understand?? You better.

I didnt realize blade is as dumb as theman or kabar

[DoctorP]

Biden lied? Im shocked! Not

[bladefd]

We don't even know if it's legit.


The Post's story had several red flags and holes that raise questions about its authenticity. The most glaring questions are whether the emails described in the story are legitimate, how they were uncovered, and how the Post obtained them.

The Post's report said that an unidentified computer-repair-shop owner discovered the emails and other compromising material about Hunter Biden after an unidentified person dropped off a water-damaged laptop last year to be repaired but never picked it up.

The repair shop owner was later identified as John Paul Mac Isaac, an avid Trump supporter who told several reporters who tracked him down that Trump's impeachment was a "sham." Isaac also did not have a clear grasp on the timeline of events that he initially described to the Post.

The Post said it learned of the emails' existence last month through Steve Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, and obtained them through Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal lawyer.

Both men have routinely pushed conspiracy theories about the Biden campaign's ties to Ukraine, and Giuliani met last year with a Ukrainian official who was sanctioned in September and accused of acting as a Russian agent.https://news.yahoo.com/explosive-york-post-story-thats-164147312.html

Lets assume it's all legit. What does it mean? Biden lied for saying he didn't know what Hunter was involved in with Burisma. Whippee-de-do, Biden lied. Are we really going to put Biden's lie up against pathological liar Trump and somehow conclude "Biden lied so vote Trump"?? You really want to go through all of Trump's lies?? Good luck.

Lets assume that Trump was a saint and Biden was the evil wild wolf for this lie.


Government officials and Ukrainian anticorruption advocates said Shokin had hampered the investigation into Burisma long before Joe Biden even stepped into the picture, The Wall Street Journal reported.

In other words, Biden was doing the opposite of what Trump and Giuliani have implied: He was trying to oust a prosecutor who was slow-walking the investigation into Burisma, rather than actively targeting the company.

Western diplomats have also said Shokin effectively shut down one such investigation into Burisma's founder in the UK by refusing to cooperate with authorities. And Bloomberg reported that the Burisma investigation was largely dormant when Biden called for Shokin to be fired.

Most important, Biden represented the US's official position on the matter, one that was shared by many other Western governments and anticorruption activists in Ukraine, The Associated Press reported.

He was representing Obama's administration and it was a position shared by our allies that Biden pulled off in Ukraine as part of Obama's diplomatic team working through official chain. What? We going to act like he was going after the prosecutor for his own interests if Obama administration held that position?

Come up with something stronger then we will talk.

[KennyPowers]

Joe Lieden

[DoctorP]

They all lie. Its part of the job description

[ZenMaster]

Good luck on November 3.

Then when next year comes, you will see me say "Hey, the people chose who they chose. Don't steal the election from the people." Isn't that what you Republicans said in 2019 after the Ukraine scandal??

You can impeach Biden if you have a problem with it. Isn't that what Trump lawyers said to Congress in defense of Trump in the courts?

"BUT HILLARY!!" Isn't that what Republicans always flipped it into? BUUUUT TRUMP.

I don't need any original defense. I simply throw your own book on you. Enjoy it.

You've yet to come to the realization that THIS is the Ukraine scandal and that's why they tried to impeach when he was asking the current Ukraine PM for help to clear it up.

I think we went over it already quite a while ago, Ukrainian revolution backed and pushed by the US, 2 billion of US tax dollars disappeared in Ukraine under Obama/Biden, Biden on video telling a story about blackmailing the previous Ukraine PM etc.

What we're seeing from Twitter and Facebook today is absolutely crazy, full on Orwellian suppression of information.

[Long Duck Dong]

Holy crap. The CEO of Twitter has bent the knee and apologized for their bias in blocking the NY Post article after Trump threatened to repeal their currently lawful protections from libel against user content.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/1316528193621327876

https://i.imgur.com/eUnS2r2.jpg

[starface]

We don't even know if it's legit.

https://news.yahoo.com/explosive-york-post-story-thats-164147312.html

Lets assume it's all legit. What does it mean? Biden lied for saying he didn't know what Hunter was involved in with Burisma. Whippee-de-do, Biden lied. Are we really going to put Biden's lie up against pathological liar Trump and somehow conclude "Biden lied so vote Trump"?? You really want to go through all of Trump's lies?? Good luck.

Lets assume that Trump was a saint and Biden was the evil wild wolf for this lie.



He was representing Obama's administration and it was a position shared by our allies that Biden pulled off in Ukraine as part of Obama's diplomatic team working through official chain. What? We going to act like he was going after the prosecutor for his own interests if Obama administration held that position?

Come up with something stronger then we will talk.


Once again you complete human TURD, this isnt about Trump and Biden and Republicans and Democrats.

It’s about TECH/MEDIA GIANTS allowing speculative left wing stories to run rampant on their sites, while blocking stories on the right that are anywhere in the same ballpark of credibility, in order to obviously favor a political candidate. There are legal prohibitions against that kind of bias.

You are too pathetic for words.

[KennyPowers]

Holy crap. The CEO of Twitter has bent the knee and apologized for their bias in blocking the NY Post article after Trump threatened to repeal their currently lawful protections from libel against user content.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/1316528193621327876

https://i.imgur.com/eUnS2r2.jpg



https://i.ibb.co/NtR01YF/IMG-20201014-232732.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XCT1Gr9/IMG-20201014-232904.jpg

[starface]

All the people in government whove been corrupt for DECADES went on the offensive to make Trump seem like the problem, to avoid the spotlight being put on their own swamp.

And all the suckers, submissives, beta males... all the bladefds and itsmillertimes and primetimes and theman's etc... They all got taken in because the media made it a morality/character/perception thing, in other words emotional ploys, instead of a facts and evidence thing, in other words cerebral considerations... and the low IQs got wound up like toys by the swamp and turned into brainless attack dogs.

OMB's are beta losers beyond belief. Complete mainstream cucks. Ordered what to think by women and the media. Listless, helpless males who have to take orders or else theyre generic and irrelevant. Dead fish. Zero masculinity.

And they're stuck like that for LIFE.

[jstern]

This is such a huge thing that's going on, from the story itself to the censorship that followed. The first thing that I did this morning when I saw it in the Post was go to CNN, MSNBC etc, look around, and after not finding anything pressing CTRL + F and typing keywords such as Hunter, and nothing.

If one follows Trump is the same old. In the past when I saw favorable news for Trump not being talked about, completely ignore, it's like concrete proof of the Fake News Media, for a lack of a better term. And it would be obvious for anyone who sees it. And it's so blatant that you think that the employees of the fake news would be embarrassed, feel awkward, etc. Their integrity is being challenge, nobody is going to believe them on anything. But the thing that it's completely effective because their viewers will never know about what's not being reported, what's being mislead, etc.

This is turning out to be a very big story because of the censorship, and Twitter being called out by politicians. Let see if it reaches the awareness of the average folk. Like Obama would say.

[Long Duck Dong]

A shitload of famous people locked out of their Twitter account for posting the NY Post story. Including the Press Secretary of the United States of America. Luckily Trump stepped in and is sorting things out. Bullies need to be reminded every once in a while there's always a bigger bully than you out there somewhere.

Who thought 40 years ago it would be conservatives championing freedom in the USA. The left has lost their edge.

[bladefd]

You've yet to come to the realization that THIS is the Ukraine scandal and that's why they tried to impeach when he was asking the current Ukraine PM for help to clear it up.

I think we went over it already quite a while ago, Ukrainian revolution backed and pushed by the US, 2 billion of US tax dollars disappeared in Ukraine under Obama/Biden, Biden on video telling a story about blackmailing the previous Ukraine PM etc.

What we're seeing from Twitter and Facebook today is absolutely crazy, full on Orwellian suppression of information.

It's 2 different scandals if anything. Regardless, what did Biden do that was illegal and scandalous? He lied about not talking to Hunter about his dealings. That's the only thing we can get out of this if this is legit email. Biden lied. And?

Biden was representing Obama's administration and it was a position shared by our allies that Biden pulled off in Ukraine as part of Obama's diplomatic team working through official chain. What? We going to act like he was going after the prosecutor for his own interests if Obama administration held that position?

Come up with something stronger then we will talk.

[bladefd]

Once again you complete human TURD, this isnt about Trump and Biden and Republicans and Democrats.

It’s about TECH/MEDIA GIANTS allowing speculative left wing stories to run rampant on their sites, while blocking stories on the right that are anywhere in the same ballpark of credibility, in order to obviously favor a political candidate. There are legal prohibitions against that kind of bias.

You are too pathetic for words.

So go after the tech company. Sue them and take them to court. Ain't my problem.

I was not discussing the Tweet being blocked. The content of the ny post article is where the focus is on, which Trumpeters are trying to act as if it is the smoking gun. It is hardly a smoking gun. I already made my points in post #25 in this thread so go read that if you want more in depth about the article.

If your only focus is on the Twitter block and you don't care about the content of that article, then the article is a nothingburger.

Either you care about the article or you don't. If it's the latter then you are wasting everyone's time.

[bobopenguin]

Go play in traffic with Donald and Lindsey. Maybe Ted Cruz, Matt Gatz, Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan will come join you. You all belong together.

Oh and Rudy. Bring him too.

go play with joe biden in the basement, might wanna bring some kids with u too.

[ZenMaster]

It's 2 different scandals if anything. Regardless, what did Biden do that was illegal and scandalous? He lied about not talking to Hunter about his dealings. That's the only thing we can get out of this if this is legit email. Biden lied. And?

Biden was representing Obama's administration and it was a position shared by our allies that Biden pulled off in Ukraine as part of Obama's diplomatic team working through official chain. What? We going to act like he was going after the prosecutor for his own interests if Obama administration held that position?

Come up with something stronger then we will talk.

It's projection, to get you to believe that the only one doing something illegal in Ukraine has been Trump being tyrant to try and take out his political opponents.

Biden lied because he didn't want anyone to know about his business dealings in Ukraine as Vice President.

The bolded is the official story, you're right about that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHihyFsgJGc&t=289s&ab_channel=BlazeTV

There's a much longer presentation, but I don't think you'd ever watch it, because you don't really care but is instead only interested in how you can't compartmentalize the information in a way where you can say "so what?". Like with the email you describe, "Biden lied. And?"

Most people, like you, don't care about this though, and it'll all be overlooked as well when a video comes out with Jr Biden having a minor snort coke off his dick or something similar.

[ZenMaster]

You'll read the spin today that this is false, because the prosecutor wasn't pushed out for investigating Hunter. This is true, he was investigating Burisma.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1602755779334.png

[rawimpact]

More Democratic 'Pay to play' going on

but in the form of Coca as Hunter prefers.

You've got a son who has been a lifelong loser kicked out of the armed forces for drugs been given a handout because of Daddy. That political power being used to put Hunter in the position he is in now is the swamp.

[CelticBaller]

Whataboutism is a fkn stupid argument against actual legit arguments. Congrats on being a fkwit.

Geez the trump fam kinda pissy lately. I wonder why

[CelticBaller]

Also this story is so obviously fake it’s hilarious

So some repair guy just happened to stumble across hunter Biden’s laptop, stole all the data, gave it to Rudy’s lawyers and then called the FBI and somehow didn’t get arrested for stealing someone’s information?

Wait you’re telling me the FBI had no idea on how he stole that info? Am I supposed to believe that they’re that incompetent? :roll:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview

Here’s the guy you tools are putting a lot of faith in lol

[ZenMaster]

Also this story is so obviously fake it’s hilarious

So some repair guy just happened to stumble across hunter Biden’s laptop, stole all the data, gave it to Rudy’s lawyers and then called the FBI and somehow didn’t get arrested for stealing someone’s information?

Wait you’re telling me the FBI had no idea on how he stole that info? Am I supposed to believe that they’re that incompetent? :roll:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview

Here’s the guy you tools are putting a lot of faith in lol

So you're member of thedailybeast radical left propaganda site, good to know. It also fits right in line with the garbage you post here, with a complete mischaracterization of the events as they've been told.

-Repair guy got Macbook that had water damage in for repair, with the task of recovering the data from the HD.
-Contract was signed, which stated that if no pickup had happened within 90 days, ownership of the unit goes to the shop.
-After no pickup within the 90 day period, the shop owner went through the data, took a copy and contacted the FBI(I'm guessing on the base of the content) who's had the laptop since December last year.
-Since nothing happened at the FBI, repair guy contacts the head of some organization(I can't remember the name), provides him with the content.
-The guy at the FBI who's subpoenaed the laptop and is handling was working with child porn in the 5 years prior, not sure if it's significant in any way, but that's what he did.
-Since nothing still doesn't happen, he contacts the lawyer of Rudy G and hands the information over to him.

Could this be fake, sure, but if it is, does that mean the pictures aren't real? Does it mean that Biden didn't blackmail a foreign head of state to fire an AG(his own words) who was investigating the same company as Hunter was on the board of?

Also, has anyone from the Biden campaign come out and said that he emails are fake?

[Rocket]

lol, in 2016 Hillary and Obama had to use the FBI, DOJ, and CIA to fabricate a Russian collusion narrative out of nothing but thin air. This shit with Biden is as real as it gets and it is REALLY bad. The democRATS "impeached" Trump earlier this year for a quid pro quo that never happened and now they have a candidate who actually did a proven quid pro quo. Not that the left will bat an eye at any of this. Hypocrisy is standard operating for the left.

[Long Duck Dong]

Also this story is so obviously fake it’s hilarious

So some repair guy just happened to stumble across hunter Biden’s laptop, stole all the data, gave it to Rudy’s lawyers and then called the FBI and somehow didn’t get arrested for stealing someone’s information?

Wait you’re telling me the FBI had no idea on how he stole that info? Am I supposed to believe that they’re that incompetent? :roll:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview

Here’s the guy you tools are putting a lot of faith in lol


I guess the obvious question is if you believe the story is fake. Are you saying the photos of Hunter Biden including the one with a crackpipe in his mouth are fake too? Or did they have these photo all along and just had them sitting around until they could tie them into a big grand fake story like this?

[Long Duck Dong]

In any case, Dems better hope and pray this is fake because if not things are going to get ugly. A second batch of emails were released this morning between Hunter and the Chinese. In the email Hunter apparently isn't as stupid as his Ukrainian friend, he uses code words like "big guy", "family", "the chairman" to possibly refer to his father.

If the story is true. Best case scenario is it distracts from the Biden campaign's agenda they want to put before America and limits the effectiveness of attacks on Trump since everyone will be focused on this story. Worst case scenario? Well that's obvious.

[ZenMaster]

I guess the obvious question is if you believe the story is fake. Are you saying the photos of Hunter Biden including the one with a crackpipe in his mouth are fake too? Or did they have these photo all along and just had them sitting around until they could tie them into a big grand fake story like this?

The only thing that matters is if the emails are fake. So what if they're hacked, it doesn't matter as long as they're real.

Spokesman for the Biden campaign said on TV that because Twitter took the action they did, it means the story is false :oldlol:

Some are saying that there were 3 hard drives delivered in total. There'll be stuff coming out all week probably.

Joe nowhere to be seen and he'll get ripped if he goes into another debate with Trump. We already saw him getting upset when defending Hunter in the first one.

I kind of feel bad for Hunter though, he probably had a tough childhood knowing that his father loved Beau more than him and now he's being used as a prop to do the dirty work for his dad for him to cash in on his public position.

[Patrick Chewing]

Also this story is so obviously fake it’s hilarious

So some repair guy just happened to stumble across hunter Biden’s laptop, stole all the data, gave it to Rudy’s lawyers and then called the FBI and somehow didn’t get arrested for stealing someone’s information?

Wait you’re telling me the FBI had no idea on how he stole that info? Am I supposed to believe that they’re that incompetent? :roll:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview

Here’s the guy you tools are putting a lot of faith in lol

No data was stolen. He was in legal possession of that laptop. And it's not fake. There were pictures of Hunter on that laptop. Like the crack pipe picture I posted earlier.

The laptop and the data on the laptop belongs to the owner of the PC repair shop.

[rawimpact]

How can this be fake news if these are actual emails? I mean that's as objective as it gets, there is no interpretation.

You literally have a chinese energy company paying Hunter 10 Million dollars and Hunter setting up an arrangement to meet his father.

How can Biden want to make America Great again when his own son is pictured doing crack and getting paid by foreign countries (absurd amounts, 50K/week for one and 10M annually for another??) and arranging these foreign businessmen to meet with Biden?

[Patrick Chewing]

If there’s actual evidence against Joe Biden of corruption, it’s Fake News to the Left.

If there’s no evidence against Donald Trump of corruption, it’s not Fake News to the Left. It’s still real. It still happened. :oldlol:

[Rocket]

If there’s actual evidence against Joe Biden of corruption, it’s Fake News to the Left.

If there’s no evidence against Donald Trump of corruption, it’s not Fake News to the Left. It’s still real. It still happened. :oldlol:

That is because they live in echo chamber that feeds them a steady diet of whatever narrative they want to push on any given day. Their echo chamber tells them any dissenting information is fake news. They blindly believe the narrative of the leftist fantasy world they live in. It is really sad. They are just useful idiots to the left.

[bobopenguin]

Can someone please show me the door to the realm of denial? Some lefties seems to have a great time living in there.

[Long Duck Dong]

Spokesman for the Biden campaign said on TV that because Twitter took the action they did, it means the story is false :oldlol:



Biden campaign manager said a meeting with Hunter and the Ukrainian was "technically possible" but unlikely. Not really a firm denial

[KennyPowers]

Spokesman for the Biden campaign said on TV that because Twitter took the action they did, it means the story is false :oldlol:


Jack Dorsey said they banned it because by posting it, people were posting private information like e-mail addresses. In other words, the e-mail addresses are real it would seem...


Seems as real as Hillary's bathroom servers and pizzagate.

[Rocket]

Biden campaign manager said a meeting with Hunter and the Ukrainian was "technically possible" but unlikely. Not really a firm denial
SMDH. That is utterly ridiculous but I am sure the mindless lefty sheep will be fine with that response.

[ZenMaster]

https://video.parler.com/8v/xu/8vxuUxpzqMxg.mp4

[bladefd]

You'll read the spin today that this is false, because the prosecutor wasn't pushed out for investigating Hunter. This is true, he was investigating Burisma.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1602755779334.png

The investigation was already on hold when Biden went over to Ukraine through official channels to get Shokin fired. Shokin was already a corrupt prosecutor so let's not act as if the Burisma investigation was actively going and Shokin was this upstanding citizen, who got fired while in the middle of the Burisma investigation. Even our allies in UK, Germany and our other allied nations wanted Shokin gone. It is the facts.


Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin's ouster, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency set up in 2014 that has worked closely with the FBI.

Shokin's office had investigated Burisma, but the probe focused on a period before Hunter Biden joined the company, according to the anti-corruption bureau.

The investigation dealt with the Ministry of Ecology, which allegedly granted special permits to Burisma between 2010 and 2012, the agency said. Hunter Biden did not join the company until 2014.

You know what the difference is between Trump screwing around in Ukraine and Biden? Biden went through official diplomatic channels following official Obama position & was supported by not just our allies but also by Ukrainian anticorruption watchdogs. Trump did not go through any official channels, and the ones dealing with the diplomatic stuff in State Department were kept from knowing about it. Only a few people outside of Trump circle even had knowledge of it.

Come up with something stronger and we will talk.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Will ItsMillerTime weigh in!?

The opinion of -primetime- is the only opinion that matters... we need his thoughts on this hot topic.

[bladefd]

So you're member of thedailybeast radical left propaganda site, good to know. It also fits right in line with the garbage you post here, with a complete mischaracterization of the events as they've been told.

-Repair guy got Macbook that had water damage in for repair, with the task of recovering the data from the HD.
-Contract was signed, which stated that if no pickup had happened within 90 days, ownership of the unit goes to the shop.
-After no pickup within the 90 day period, the shop owner went through the data, took a copy and contacted the FBI(I'm guessing on the base of the content) who's had the laptop since December last year.
-Since nothing happened at the FBI, repair guy contacts the head of some organization(I can't remember the name), provides him with the content.
-The guy at the FBI who's subpoenaed the laptop and is handling was working with child porn in the 5 years prior, not sure if it's significant in any way, but that's what he did.
-Since nothing still doesn't happen, he contacts the lawyer of Rudy G and hands the information over to him.

Could this be fake, sure, but if it is, does that mean the pictures aren't real? Does it mean that Biden didn't blackmail a foreign head of state to fire an AG(his own words) who was investigating the same company as Hunter was on the board of?

Also, has anyone from the Biden campaign come out and said that he emails are fake?

And you believe that? The fbi did nothing?? The fbi would be all over this sort of information in election year. Christopher Wray was a Trump appointee. You telling me this was kept from him or he didn't send a few agents to go pick up the laptop?

Finally, what pictures? Let's see those pictures. What are they even pictures of? Did the fbi verify the veracity of the data and pictures?

Get me something stronger. You don't have much to go on. It sounds like a shot in the air from a desperate Trump campaign.

[Long Duck Dong]

And you believe that? The fbi did nothing?? The fbi would be all over this sort of information in election year. Christopher Wray was a Trump appointee. You telling me this was kept from him or he didn't send a few agents to go pick up the laptop?

Finally, what pictures? Let's see those pictures. What are they even pictures of? Did the fbi verify the veracity of the data and pictures?

Get me something stronger. You don't have much to go on. It sounds like a shot in the air from a desperate Trump campaign.

These guys are hilarious. Girl from high school says Brett Kavanaugh tried to rape her. HUGE investigation required. Criminal complaint of sexual misconduct against a sitting senator. Nothing to see here folks

Dems impeach president and begin a months long investigation that finds nothing on president. But evidence potentially coming forth about meetings with the former VP, his son and foreign businessman that may lead to proof of corruption... shut it down folks! We don't even want people talking about this! Nothing to see here!

[bladefd]

https://video.parler.com/8v/xu/8vxuUxpzqMxg.mp4

A crook calling someone else a crook. What ground do Trump/Rudy have to stand on to calling someone else a liar/crook? :oldlol:

If they had a solid ground to stand on themselves, they would have more credibility. It's seems highly unlikely it's going to work this time. It worked in 2016 with Hillary's emails because Trump was essentially a wildcard outsider with no political past then. This election, everyone has seen Trump for the lying crook he is.

Biden probably lied by saying he had no knowledge of his son's dealings, but proving it is going to be something else. Giuliani in that video claims Hunter was giving half of the money from those dealings to Joe as part of Hunter's deal with his father. Again, claiming that and proving that are two very different things. Sure you can investigate that but unless if you can prove it in court or successfully impeach Biden for it if he wins the election, none of it matters.

It goes down the same exact path of arguments used by Republicans to defend Trump in impeachment. Exact same defense can be used here that the Republicans used directly out of their book, almost word-for-word & action-for-action. Marco Rubio said something like "Trump did something improper but it was not illegal." Biden lied about not knowing about his son's dealings, whippee, now what else do you have to take that a step further?

[ZenMaster]

And you believe that? The fbi did nothing?? The fbi would be all over this sort of information in election year. Christopher Wray was a Trump appointee. You telling me this was kept from him or he didn't send a few agents to go pick up the laptop?

Finally, what pictures? Let's see those pictures. What are they even pictures of? Did the fbi verify the veracity of the data and pictures?

Get me something stronger. You don't have much to go on. It sounds like a shot in the air from a desperate Trump campaign.


The article included a photo of the federal-court subpoena showing that the FBI seized the computer and hard drive in December. It's unclear why the bureau subpoenaed or seized the hardware after the repair shop's owner voluntarily told authorities of its existence.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-may-have-identified-hunter-biden-source-2020-10

It's October now and the election is right around the corner, so yes I'd categorize that as nothing happening.

You asked for something stronger, I posted about the 2 billion dollars of US tax money disappearing in Ukraine, but you refuse to look.

[Axe]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b5cd11a639716b03f24130617efcb620/tenor.gif?itemid=9069989

[ZenMaster]

And you believe that? The fbi did nothing?? The fbi would be all over this sort of information in election year. Christopher Wray was a Trump appointee. You telling me this was kept from him or he didn't send a few agents to go pick up the laptop?

Finally, what pictures? Let's see those pictures. What are they even pictures of? Did the fbi verify the veracity of the data and pictures?

Get me something stronger. You don't have much to go on. It sounds like a shot in the air from a desperate Trump campaign.

They'll be coming. There's already the one out of Hunter sleeping with a crack or meth pipe in his mouth, someone took that picture(and probably placed the pipe in his mouth for the photo). My guess is it'll be some kind of prostitute and there'll be a video of him smoking with said person.

[ZenMaster]

https://streamable.com/kw9gz3

[dude77]

https://streamable.com/kw9gz3


wow

[dude77]

also alluding to what zen said .. I hear there's a sex tape and it's possibly with a minor .. but that obviously can't be released publicly if it exists .. it should go to the fbi for investigation ... but the fbi is protecting biden lol hmm

[RRR3]

So you're member of thedailybeast radical left propaganda site, good to know. It also fits right in line with the garbage you post here, with a complete mischaracterization of the events as they've been told.

-Repair guy got Macbook that had water damage in for repair, with the task of recovering the data from the HD.
-Contract was signed, which stated that if no pickup had happened within 90 days, ownership of the unit goes to the shop.
-After no pickup within the 90 day period, the shop owner went through the data, took a copy and contacted the FBI(I'm guessing on the base of the content) who's had the laptop since December last year.
-Since nothing happened at the FBI, repair guy contacts the head of some organization(I can't remember the name), provides him with the content.
-The guy at the FBI who's subpoenaed the laptop and is handling was working with child porn in the 5 years prior, not sure if it's significant in any way, but that's what he did.
-Since nothing still doesn't happen, he contacts the lawyer of Rudy G and hands the information over to him.

Could this be fake, sure, but if it is, does that mean the pictures aren't real? Does it mean that Biden didn't blackmail a foreign head of state to fire an AG(his own words) who was investigating the same company as Hunter was on the board of?

Also, has anyone from the Biden campaign come out and said that he emails are fake?
Lmao at calling CelticBaller a radical leftist. Dude is neoliberal as ****. There are like TWO radical leftists on this site (me and ralph_iel)

[RRR3]

It’s funny watching you guys squabble over this as if all of these clowns aren’t corrupt as shit. Both of these candidates are objectively awful human beings.

[bladefd]

https://streamable.com/kw9gz3

What does that show or prove that we didn't already know? That Biden was involved in firing of Shokin? We already have known that since 2017 at least.

Unless if there's a connection between Shokin's Burisma investigation and Biden's official involvement, you don't have anything in that audio clip. Regardless, the Shokin investigation was investigating Burisma's dealings for period before Hunter was hired. Even if Biden had not gotten Shokin fired, Hunter was not even under investigation because he came along after the period of time Shokin was investigating.

[bladefd]

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-may-have-identified-hunter-biden-source-2020-10

It's October now and the election is right around the corner, so yes I'd categorize that as nothing happening.

You asked for something stronger, I posted about the 2 billion dollars of US tax money disappearing in Ukraine, but you refuse to look.

The FBI hasn't said anything. Trump's appointee Christopher Wray runs the FBI.

We don't know why it took until now for it to come out less than 3 weeks before the election. What's the end goal? What information is contained there? So far, I see nothing new or showing/proving anything we didn't already know, except perhaps that Biden lied about not knowing Hunter's involvement.


They'll be coming. There's already the one out of Hunter sleeping with a crack or meth pipe in his mouth, someone took that picture(and probably placed the pipe in his mouth for the photo). My guess is it'll be some kind of prostitute and there'll be a video of him smoking with said person.

A picture with him smoking a pipe doesn't prove anything. Sex video with a random girl doesn't prove the veracity of other data.

[ZenMaster]

What does that show or prove that we didn't already know? That Biden was involved in firing of Shokin? We already have known that since 2017 at least.

Unless if there's a connection between Shokin's Burisma investigation and Biden's official involvement, you don't have anything in that audio clip. Regardless, the Shokin investigation was investigating Burisma's dealings for period before Hunter was hired. Even if Biden had not gotten Shokin fired, Hunter was not even under investigation because he came along after the period of time Shokin was investigating.

They're two different operations, but what you need to consider is also who owns Burisma and what happens after as that is where the connection happens.

What's significant in the clip, is that Porohshenko makes it extremely clear that he fired him despite the fact that they did not have anything on him from their end, so it's solely as a favor to Joe.

Shokin himself has stated under oath that he was planning to proceed with an investigation into Burisma, but of course he could be lying.

But what happened after Shokin was fired is that, as you mention, then Hunter is hired(instated) and the money can start to flow directly to the Biden family. Both what is officially known, but also through their money laundering scheme in Latvia.

After that, the owner of Burisma receives $1.8 billion into the bank he owns, which was called PrivatBank, this is official taxpayer aid money towards Ukraine from the US.
The $1.8 billion disappears in a fake order scheme using shell companies, where ordered products are never delivered, but paid for.
No one asks any questions about this and no efforts are made to retrieve the money.

Then, the same guy who owns Burisma and PrivatBank(who previous to this was not allowed into the US), funds a battalion of men in Eastern Ukraine which fights Russian separatists. Somehow, this never receives much focus in Western media and no questions are asked about who are fighting, if it aren't official Ukrainian troops.

Lastly, the guy who owned Burisma and PrivatBank is then somehow now allowed into the US, where he apparently goes to Cleveland and starts to buy up a ton of property. IIRC one of his corporations was raided by the FBI a few months ago.


A picture with him smoking a pipe doesn't prove anything. Sex video with a random girl doesn't prove the veracity of other data.

Pictures and video of him doing drugs will help to convince people of what he is, a drug addict.
He was kicked out of the military for cocaine use a long. He left a crack pipe in a rental car. He did drugs with a stripper and got her pregnant.
There's no reason to take pictures and film yourself while high, unless you have some issues with it and is out of control. You're the son of the VP ffs.
It will give credence to the idea that Hunter did not possess the skills for the positions he had, he was just someone who others could pay off to get favors from his dad.

[ZenMaster]

also alluding to what zen said .. I hear there's a sex tape and it's possibly with a minor .. but that obviously can't be released publicly if it exists .. it should go to the fbi for investigation ... but the fbi is protecting biden lol hmm

White House reporter tweets that it's about to get ugly:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/chanel-hunter-video-600x271.jpg

[bobopenguin]

They're two different operations, but what you need to consider is also who owns Burisma and what happens after as that is where the connection happens.

What's significant in the clip, is that Porohshenko makes it extremely clear that he fired him despite the fact that they did not have anything on him from their end, so it's solely as a favor to Joe.

Shokin himself has stated under oath that he was planning to proceed with an investigation into Burisma, but of course he could be lying.

But what happened after Shokin was fired is that, as you mention, then Hunter is hired(instated) and the money can start to flow directly to the Biden family. Both what is officially known, but also through their money laundering scheme in Latvia.

After that, the owner of Burisma receives $1.8 billion into the bank he owns, which was called PrivatBank, this is official taxpayer aid money towards Ukraine from the US.
The $1.8 billion disappears in a fake order scheme using shell companies, where ordered products are never delivered, but paid for.
No one asks any questions about this and no efforts are made to retrieve the money.

Then, the same guy who owns Burisma and PrivatBank(who previous to this was not allowed into the US), funds a battalion of men in Eastern Ukraine which fights Russian separatists. Somehow, this never receives much focus in Western media and no questions are asked about who are fighting, if it aren't official Ukrainian troops.

Lastly, the guy who owned Burisma and PrivatBank is then somehow now allowed into the US, where he apparently goes to Cleveland and starts to buy up a ton of property. IIRC one of his corporations was raided by the FBI a few months ago.



Pictures and video of him doing drugs will help to convince people of what he is, a drug addict.
He was kicked out of the military for cocaine use a long. He left a crack pipe in a rental car. He did drugs with a stripper and got her pregnant.
There's no reason to take pictures and film yourself while high, unless you have some issues with it and is out of control. You're the son of the VP ffs.
It will give credence to the idea that Hunter did not possess the skills for the positions he had, he was just someone who others could pay off to get favors from his dad.

why are trying to convince a guy who's already made up his mind what he wants to believe?

[RRR3]

Quite possibly for the best if Biden goes down. No fan of Trump but we need to have a real opposition party and not just a polite version of Trump running against him. If, in 2024, we can get someone in who will take climate change seriously and address the evils of capitalism, maybe things will turn out ok. Idk. We might just be screwed.

[Axe]

If sanders was only younger.

[BigKobeFan]

If sanders was only younger.

When he was younger, he was kicked out of a commune for being too damn lazy.

[Axe]

When he was younger, he was kicked out of a commune for being too damn lazy.
:(

[RRR3]

BigKobeFan should be kicked out of ISH for being a retarded fascist.

[bladefd]

They're two different operations, but what you need to consider is also who owns Burisma and what happens after as that is where the connection happens.

What's significant in the clip, is that Porohshenko makes it extremely clear that he fired him despite the fact that they did not have anything on him from their end, so it's solely as a favor to Joe.

Shokin was under scope for not prosecuting corruption. He was letting corrupt Ukrainians get away, which was why Obama administration, our European allies, Ukrainian watchdogs wanted him fired. If Biden was working unilaterally push to get Shokin fired, you would have a point. It wasn't him doing it unilaterally though.

Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/




Shokin himself has stated under oath that he was planning to proceed with an investigation into Burisma, but of course he could be lying.
That was directly contradicted by Shokin's deputy.

However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, produced documents to Bloomberg that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.

"There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky," Kasko told Bloomberg. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015."https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/may/07/viral-image/fact-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/




But what happened after Shokin was fired is that, as you mention, then Hunter is hired(instated) and the money can start to flow directly to the Biden family. Both what is officially known, but also through their money laundering scheme in Latvia.

After that, the owner of Burisma receives $1.8 billion into the bank he owns, which was called PrivatBank, this is official taxpayer aid money towards Ukraine from the US.
The $1.8 billion disappears in a fake order scheme using shell companies, where ordered products are never delivered, but paid for.
No one asks any questions about this and no efforts are made to retrieve the money.

Then, the same guy who owns Burisma and PrivatBank(who previous to this was not allowed into the US), funds a battalion of men in Eastern Ukraine which fights Russian separatists. Somehow, this never receives much focus in Western media and no questions are asked about who are fighting, if it aren't official Ukrainian troops.

Lastly, the guy who owned Burisma and PrivatBank is then somehow now allowed into the US, where he apparently goes to Cleveland and starts to buy up a ton of property. IIRC one of his corporations was raided by the FBI a few months ago.
The bold is speculation. We don't know Hunter was hired as part of money laundering scheme. Without evidence, it's speculation.

As for the $1.8 billion our nation gave them... Neither of us know where or to who that money went. It's certainly problematic. I would definitely support investigating that to follow the money trail.. But it has to be through official channels, not backchannel hush-hush secrecy that only your inner circle knows anything about & your personal lawyer (not US Government lawyer or State Department diplomat but private personal lawyer) is chasing down.




Pictures and video of him doing drugs will help to convince people of what he is, a drug addict.
He was kicked out of the military for cocaine use a long. He left a crack pipe in a rental car. He did drugs with a stripper and got her pregnant.
There's no reason to take pictures and film yourself while high, unless you have some issues with it and is out of control. You're the son of the VP ffs.
It will give credence to the idea that Hunter did not possess the skills for the positions he had, he was just someone who others could pay off to get favors from his dad.
Hunter's a druggie. Whippee-de-do.

No, being a drug user doesn't prove he lacked the skills for position he held at Burisma. He got his law degree at Yale.

Oprah was a drug addict. Stephen King. Robin Williams. Ben Affleck. Beatles. Freud. Carl Sagan. Richard Feynman. What does it prove?? Bad decisions? Yes. Does it prove lack of skills or knowledge in your area of expertise? No.

[BigKobeFan]

BigKobeFan should be kicked out of ISH for being a retarded fascist.

Pictures of your room

[ZenMaster]

Shokin was under scope for not prosecuting corruption. He was letting corrupt Ukrainians get away, which was why Obama administration, our European allies, Ukrainian watchdogs wanted him fired. If Biden was working unilaterally push to get Shokin fired, you would have a point. It wasn't him doing it unilaterally though.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/




That was directly contradicted by Shokin's deputy.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/may/07/viral-image/fact-checking-joe-biden-hunter-biden-and-ukraine/




The bold is speculation. We don't know Hunter was hired as part of money laundering scheme. Without evidence, it's speculation.

As for the $1.8 billion our nation gave them... Neither of us know where or to who that money went. It's certainly problematic. I would definitely support investigating that to follow the money trail.. But it has to be through official channels, not backchannel hush-hush secrecy that only your inner circle knows anything about & your personal lawyer (not US Government lawyer or State Department diplomat but private personal lawyer) is chasing down.




Hunter's a druggie. Whippee-de-do.

No, being a drug user doesn't prove he lacked the skills for position he held at Burisma. He got his law degree at Yale.

Oprah was a drug addict. Stephen King. Robin Williams. Ben Affleck. Beatles. Freud. Carl Sagan. Richard Feynman. What does it prove?? Bad decisions? Yes. Does it prove lack of skills or knowledge in your area of expertise? No.

Yet in the call, he makes sure to make it clear for Joe that he's only doing it as a favor to him.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-privatbank-insight-idUSKBN1FD0G5


From May 28 to Sept. 1, 2014, 42 companies registered in the Dnipropetrovsk region of eastern Ukraine transferred $1.7 billion to three firms registered in Britain and three in the British Virgin Islands, according to claims submitted by the 42 companies to the regionÂ’s commercial court.

All 42 borrowed money from PrivatBank, whose headquarters is in the city of Dnipro, to pay in advance for goods ranging from manganese ore and fuel oil to cranes and mechanical diggers.

None of the six firms delivered the goods and all deposited the money they received with the Cyprus branch of PrivatBank, according to the statements filed by the Ukrainian companies in court cases in which they are seeking back the money they paid.

A Reuters correspondent who visited the addresses listed in London for the three British-registered companies -- Trade Point Agro, Teamtrend Limited and Collyer Limited -- found no sign of them there.

Two of the London-listed companies, Trade Point Agro and Teamtrend, used to have a common director, while Teamtrend and Collyer have common company secretaries and directors. Letters to the firms requesting comment went unanswered.

Reuters also sent two letters to each of the three firms registered in the British Virgin Islands -- Rossyn, Milbert Ventures and Ukrtransitservice. They also went unanswered.

The deal between Trade Point Agro and Profit was typical of those outlined in the filings to the Dnipropetrovsk Regional Commercial Court.

Trade Point Agro pulled out of the contract two months after signing it, saying it would no longer deliver the goods on the agreed terms, and agreed to pay the money back by Nov. 4 but failed to do so, the Dnipropetrovsk courtÂ’s records show.

Although the records also show the court ruled on Dec. 8, 2014 in favor of ProfitÂ’s $48.5-million claim against Trade Point Agro, prosecutors say the money has never been paid back.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/giuliani-hits-bidens-new-3-million-ukraine-latvia-cyprus-money-laundering-accusation

What skills? The newest emails released show him asking a Chinese guy $10 mill just to introduce him to his father.
Hunters own text message has him talking about having to give half of everything to his father, that makes him a front man.

[RRR3]

Guh Hyuk yuk durrr deee hurr
Oh wow he is attempting to communicate with me. Unfortunately I don’t speak retarded fascist.

[BigKobeFan]

Oh wow he is attempting to communicate with me. Unfortunately I don’t speak retarded fascist.

This fakkit wont show his room to us. He knows he is a walking contradiction

[Long Duck Dong]

This fakkit wont show his room to us. He knows he is a walking contradiction

Giuliani says he's going to drop the real corruption bomb from the laptop 10 days before the election. Rudy is such a goon these days :lol. Guys 76 years old and political hitman who seems like he enjoys every minute of his job.

Well we've seen this impending evidence bomb on the Russia witch hunt before and Trump came away unscathed so we will just have to wait and see. It's still going to have Joe Biden all stressed out until then. I hope his heart can take it.

[bladefd]

Yet in the call, he makes sure to make it clear for Joe that he's only doing it as a favor to him.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-privatbank-insight-idUSKBN1FD0G5



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/giuliani-hits-bidens-new-3-million-ukraine-latvia-cyprus-money-laundering-accusation

What skills? The newest emails released show him asking a Chinese guy $10 mill just to introduce him to his father.
Hunters own text message has him talking about having to give half of everything to his father, that makes him a front man.

Unless if you can prove that it was a favor to Biden and not to Obama administration you don't have much to go on. Maybe you can investigate it & might be other audio clips coming but that specific audio clip is not enough to prove it was a personal favor to Biden. That's speculation.

What skills? Guy is a lawyer who went to Columbia University then transferred/graduated from yale with a law degree. He served on board of directors for amtrak and was appointed by president Bush (he was vice chairman for 3 years for amtrak). He also started a lobbying firm and hedge fund firm. How do you know he had no skills? Being a drug user does not say sh!t about his skills/knowledge/experience as a lawyer or lack thereof.

[ZenMaster]

Unless if you can prove that it was a favor to Biden and not to Obama administration you don't have much to go on. Maybe you can investigate it & might be other audio clips coming but that specific audio clip is not enough to prove it was a personal favor to Biden. That's speculation.

What skills? Guy is a lawyer who went to Columbia University then transferred/graduated from yale with a law degree. He served on board of directors for amtrak and was appointed by president Bush (he was vice chairman for 3 years for amtrak). He also started a lobbying firm and hedge fund firm. How do you know he had no skills? Being a drug user does not say sh!t about his skills/knowledge/experience as a lawyer or lack thereof.

Yet for some reason, in his own words, he always had to give half of what he earned to dad.

It absolutely was a favor to the Obama administration, they needed it to get the heat of Burisma.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

Remember that the official story and statement was that Joe didn't know anything about Hunters business dealings, how these business dealings were never a concern with the State Department and information from there supposedly backed it up.

They lied about all of it because they were doing bad things and making money from it, but they've been caught and that's what you're seeing coming out right now. You can deny it all you want at the moment, trying to find any reason for why what you're seeing and reading isn't real.

Hunter smoked so much meth that his teeth were rotten, people who smoke that shit all the time do not function properly, get real. Have you read his messages? He's depressed and has a lot of resentment towards father.

Just a weird question, would you still vote for Joe, if a video of Hunter doing nasty things to a minor comes out in the next few days? And you found out that Joe had someone in the DOJ or FBI cover it up while they had the video.

You should check out the video over here, it's quite interesting: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486343-China-had-the-laptop

[SATAN]

Good thing Donald isn't corrupt at all.

[bladefd]

Yet for some reason, in his own words, he always had to give half of what he earned to dad.

It absolutely was a favor to the Obama administration, they needed it to get the heat of Burisma.

Speculation. If you can't prove it with say bank transcripts, you don't have a case.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

Remember that the official story and statement was that Joe didn't know anything about Hunters business dealings, how these business dealings were never a concern with the State Department and information from there supposedly backed it up.

They lied about all of it because they were doing bad things and making money from it, but they've been caught and that's what you're seeing coming out right now. You can deny it all you want at the moment, trying to find any reason for why what you're seeing and reading isn't real.

Okay, I will wait for evidence. What we have so far is nothing beyond raising a doubt and questions that require more information. It's not something that would lead me to "GUILTY. Prosecute him for felonies. SMOKING GUN!"


Hunter smoked so much meth that his teeth were rotten, people who smoke that shit all the time do not function properly, get real. Have you read his messages? He's depressed and has a lot of resentment towards father.

Just a weird question, would you still vote for Joe, if a video of Hunter doing nasty things to a minor comes out in the next few days? And you found out that Joe had someone in the DOJ or FBI cover it up while they had the video.

You should check out the video over here, it's quite interesting: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486343-China-had-the-laptop

Druggie, blah blah blah. As long as he is not put in charge of anything or given clearance with all those red flags like Ivanka/Jared were, I don't care that he was a druggie. Just keep him away from the White House and limited contact with Joe Biden.

As for your question. I would want Hunter investigated and charged with felony. Hunter Biden is not running for president though for me to be like "Ok, I'm not voting for his FATHER because the SON was a druggie."

Your guy is Trump. You don't have much ground to stand on if we have to wonder if Biden is more corrupt or Trump.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

[ZenMaster]

Speculation. If you can't prove it with say bank transcripts, you don't have a case.



Okay, I will wait for evidence. What we have so far is nothing beyond raising a doubt and questions that require more information. It's not something that would lead me to "GUILTY. Prosecute him for felonies. SMOKING GUN!"



Druggie, blah blah blah. As long as he is not put in charge of anything or given clearance with all those red flags like Ivanka/Jared were, I don't care that he was a druggie. Just keep him away from the White House and limited contact with Joe Biden.

As for your question. I would want Hunter investigated and charged with felony. Hunter Biden is not running for president though for me to be like "Ok, I'm not voting for his FATHER because the SON was a druggie."

Your guy is Trump. You don't have much ground to stand on if we have to wonder if Biden is more corrupt or Trump.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

It can't be proven with any kind of bank transcripts or emails unless unless someone starts criminal proceedings. For how long has Rudy been saying that a RICO case should be built?

Everything that has happened indicates that corruption happened.

Joe meets Burisma exec, Joe gets Shorkin fired, Hunter gets hired and the cash flows. A little while later, $1.8 billion dollars of US taxpayer money disappears in the bank owned by the same guy who owns Burisma.

As for my question, I think you missed the part where Joe covered it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXgULtz6cI&ab_channel=%E7%A7%98%E5%AF%86%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91%E7 %BB%84G-Translators

[ZenMaster]

It can't be proven with any kind of bank transcripts or emails unless unless someone starts criminal proceedings. For how long has Rudy been saying that a RICO case should be built?

Everything that has happened indicates that corruption happened.

Joe meets Burisma exec, Joe gets Shorkin fired, Hunter gets hired and the cash flows. A little while later, $1.8 billion dollars of US taxpayer money disappears in the bank owned by the same guy who owns Burisma.

As for my question, I think you missed the part where Joe covered it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXgULtz6cI&ab_channel=%E7%A7%98%E5%AF%86%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91%E7 %BB%84G-Translators

What do you say blade?

Unless the timestamp of when that video went on Youtube is fake, then that's kind of crazy wouldn't you say? On any given day I'd agree that it's BS, but now the stuff is starting to come out.

[bladefd]

It can't be proven with any kind of bank transcripts or emails unless unless someone starts criminal proceedings. For how long has Rudy been saying that a RICO case should be built?

Everything that has happened indicates that corruption happened.

Joe meets Burisma exec, Joe gets Shorkin fired, Hunter gets hired and the cash flows. A little while later, $1.8 billion dollars of US taxpayer money disappears in the bank owned by the same guy who owns Burisma.

As for my question, I think you missed the part where Joe covered it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXgULtz6cI&ab_channel=%E7%A7%98%E5%AF%86%E7%BF%BB%E8%AF%91%E7 %BB%84G-Translators

Whole load of claims, but no proof. He claims they sent copies to DOJ and Pelosi. Ok, send it to Fox News or someone in the media in any other thousand different media companies.
Then he continues to spend 10 mins hyping it up. That's the entire video in a nutshell.

Don't tell me, show me. If you want me to believe it, show me. Until then, I have nothing to judge on..

[BigKobeFan]

Speculation. If you can't prove it with say bank transcripts, you don't have a case.



Okay, I will wait for evidence. What we have so far is nothing beyond raising a doubt and questions that require more information. It's not something that would lead me to "GUILTY. Prosecute him for felonies. SMOKING GUN!"



Druggie, blah blah blah. As long as he is not put in charge of anything or given clearance with all those red flags like Ivanka/Jared were, I don't care that he was a druggie. Just keep him away from the White House and limited contact with Joe Biden.

As for your question. I would want Hunter investigated and charged with felony. Hunter Biden is not running for president though for me to be like "Ok, I'm not voting for his FATHER because the SON was a druggie."

Your guy is Trump. You don't have much ground to stand on if we have to wonder if Biden is more corrupt or Trump.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

Wow. You are so dumb. Like a rock. Joe may not be the one taking the money, but hunter used joe to get to the money. And joe put his son forward to receive the money. You are so dumb

[bobopenguin]

Whole load of claims, but no proof. He claims they sent copies to DOJ and Pelosi. Ok, send it to Fox News or someone in the media in any other thousand different media companies.
Then he continues to spend 10 mins hyping it up. That's the entire video in a nutshell.

Don't tell me, show me. If you want me to believe it, show me. Until then, I have nothing to judge on..

even if they show u solid evidence, u would still be in denial.

[ZenMaster]

Whole load of claims, but no proof. He claims they sent copies to DOJ and Pelosi. Ok, send it to Fox News or someone in the media in any other thousand different media companies.
Then he continues to spend 10 mins hyping it up. That's the entire video in a nutshell.

Don't tell me, show me. If you want me to believe it, show me. Until then, I have nothing to judge on..

If there are pedo videos of Hunter, we better hope it's been handed over to someone in the FBI who hasn't just been sitting on it as a favor to Joe.

And lol at the bolded, what is it that you think you've been seeing coming from the NY Post? Or are you just looking the other way? It's the files that the guy was talking about in the video end of last month..

Like if this would have been posted here when it went live, we would all have agreed and said that the claims are too crazy. Other families of the CCP going against Xi? All of it crazy, but things changes when the first 20% of the claims are verified by pictures two weeks later(exactly like he said they would) and everyone in the US are saying there's a lot more to come.

Here are emails btw, showing how they set up a company structure with money going to both Hunter and Joe.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Biden-Expectations-email-graphic.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1286

[ZenMaster]

From the State Deparment: The meeting that wasn't on the books, but was described in Hunters emails from the hard drive.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkiIZhAWAAAtCx7?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/GOPPollAnalyst/status/1317446688940937224

[Patrick Chewing]

even if they show u solid evidence, u would still be in denial.

Of course they would be in denial. I hope idiots like blade and primetime don't procreate. They spend their entire lives trying to prove to the world how bad the world is around them, when in reality, they are the problem. They are the miserable *****.

[Long Duck Dong]

A lot of discussion among Bernie supporters recently and they are FUMING. The FBI supposedly had this information before the primary and it probably would have led to Bernie victory in the primary if it had been released earlier.

[RRR3]

A lot of discussion among Bernie supporters recently and they are FUMING. The FBI supposedly had this information before the primary and it probably would have led to Bernie victory in the primary if it had been released earlier.
Lol we’ve known Bernie got cheated for a while dude.

[scuzzy]

:eek:

[ZenMaster]

Whole load of claims, but no proof. He claims they sent copies to DOJ and Pelosi. Ok, send it to Fox News or someone in the media in any other thousand different media companies.
Then he continues to spend 10 mins hyping it up. That's the entire video in a nutshell.

Don't tell me, show me. If you want me to believe it, show me. Until then, I have nothing to judge on..

Here's what you've been asking for Blade and it's something that was on Fox. Black on white proof of the Burisma corruption through Hunters scope of work being described by the Burisma #2:


My only concern is for us to be on the same page re our final goals. With this in mind, I would
like us to formulate a list of deliverables, including, but not limited to: a concrete course of
actions, incl. meetings/communications resulting in high-ranking US officials in Ukraine (US
Ambassador) and in US publicly or in private communication/comment expressing their
"positive opinion" and support of Nikolay/Burisma to the highest level of decision makers here
in Ukraine :President of Ukraine, president Chief of staff, Prosecutor General, etc
The scope of work should also include organization of a visit of a number of widely recognized
and influential current and/or former US policy-makers to Ukraine in November aiming to
conduct meetings with and bring positive signal/message and support on Nikolay's issue to
the Ukrainian top officials above with the ultimate purpose to close down for any
cases/pursuits against Nikolay in Ukraine.

https://mediaactionnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/25.-Re-Revised-Burisma-Proposal-Contract-and-Invoice.pdf


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhx48VtIMY&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=TeaPartiest

[Nanners]

A lot of discussion among Bernie supporters recently and they are FUMING. The FBI supposedly had this information before the primary and it probably would have led to Bernie victory in the primary if it had been released earlier.

Nah... the only way Bernie could have won the dem primary is by using the Donald Trump strategy - he needed to stand up to the Dem establishment and make it crystal clear that he would tell his supporters to abandon the corrupt dem party if they cheated him (again).

If these Biden leaks had come out before or during the dem primary, the dem establishment would have just thrown their weight behind a different stooge like Bootygig or Pocahontas.

[Jasper]

biden involved in gas / Bush an oil man / Trump's buddy a coal guy...

so what ... they all make billions and you and I make peanuts ... lol

[ZenMaster]

biden involved in gas / Bush an oil man / Trump's buddy a coal guy...

so what ... they all make billions and you and I make peanuts ... lol


Over the next seven years, as both Joe Biden and John Kerry negotiated sensitive and high-stakes deals with foreign governments, Rosemont entities secured a series of exclusive deals often with those same foreign governments.

Some of the deals they secured may remain hidden. These Rosemont entities are, after all, within a private equity firm and as such are not required to report or disclose their financial dealings publicly.

Some of their transactions are nevertheless traceable by investigating world capital markets. A troubling pattern emerges from this research, showing how profitable deals were struck with foreign governments on the heels of crucial diplomatic missions carried out by their powerful fathers. Often those foreign entities gained favorable policy actions from the United States government just as the sons were securing favorable financial deals from those same entities.

Nowhere is that more true than in their commercial dealings with Chinese government-backed enterprises.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/

[KennyPowers]

biden involved in gas / Bush an oil man / Trump's buddy a coal guy...

so what ... they all make billions and you and I make peanuts ... lol

Your side has been humiliated once again and all you can say is Trump bad cause he has money... Enlightening.

[Long Duck Dong]

So now have the shop owner's signed receipt from Hunter Biden. If his signature was forged then why isn't the Biden camp screaming to high heaven this was a forgery and pointing fingers at the Trump camp?

We also have signed documents from the FBI commanding the shop owner to hand over the computer to their possession.


Still betting on this as a fake?

[Patrick Chewing]

Wow...every major news network is dismissing this story as Russian propaganda and accusing the shop owner of being a Russian agent without any evidence to corroborate this. They are protecting Biden.

[bobopenguin]

So now have the shop owner's signed receipt from Hunter Biden. If his signature was forged then why isn't the Biden camp screaming to high heaven this was a forgery and pointing fingers at the Trump camp?

We also have signed documents from the FBI commanding the shop owner to hand over the computer to their possession.


Still betting on this as a fake?

biden supporters: its fake cos it's not true.

[senelcoolidge]

Yeesh, there are text messages and pics of Hunter sexting under aged girls. He's got pics of under age girls in the laptop, several.

[ZenMaster]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bidens-and-china-business-11603236651?mod=e2two (https://archive.vn/RiIBc)


Joe Biden ought to clear the air on this China business in his own political interest. Is he the “big guy” in the email? What happened with the deal? China will be one of Mr. Biden’s toughest foreign-policy challenges, and the unexplained documents won’t go away once he’s elected. If Republicans hold the Senate, you can bet there will be more digging.

President Trump, as usual, is muddying the story with inappropriate demands that the Department of Justice investigate a potential crime. But the real burden here should be on Mr. Biden and the press. Perhaps Joe Biden wasn’t involved, and Hunter was using his father’s name to advance his own business interests. But it’s also possible that Joe Biden was aware of the CEFC business and was unwilling to tell his son that he couldn’t trade on his father’s name and position.

Whatever the truth, the public deserves better than Mr. Biden’s Trump-like dismissal of the CBS reporter who so far is the only one brave enough to ask about the emails.

Comment from the article page:


This scandal is confirming the book Secret Empires, from the reporter Peter Schweizer. For those who have not read it, the book says, among other things, that in exchange for the US$1.5 billion that the Bank of China invested in Hunter's enterprises (Rosemont Seneca, BHR and CGN), these companies were able to, during the Obama administration, illegally transfer highly strategic US military technologies (the F35 Stealth Jet, nuclear sub reactors and ICBM anti vibration systems) to China, possibly with the help of the Bidens influence. By coincidence, one of the Chinese spies/scientists involved in this was Joe Biden's neighbor. He was sent to prison but nothing happened to the Bidens and now China has a Stealth jet.

[Axe]

Is there any chance ZenMaster and Cleverness are the only one and same poster

[ZenMaster]

Is there any chance ZenMaster and Cleverness are the only one and same poster

Well we're on an anonymous forum, so there's always a chance.

So what you're thinking is we're the same person, and I/him used the Cleverness profile to push stuff on covid, while the ZenMaster profile carries more information about potential high level conspiracies?

That's definitely an interesting theory.

I can say that as a person, I definitely wouldn't have been able to find and present the stuff that Cleverness did for the previous 10 months. I was actually quite worried about covid to begin with, so I thank Clever for posting that information which made a lot more sense than the official narrative of 14 days to flatten the curve.

As for myself and presenting conspiracies, I'm really nothing but a man of justice and honesty. My opinion is that elected officials misusing the trust and responsibility given to them by the voters for their personal gain, is one of the major things holding the world back. While I've been alive, there's some world events for which there's never been given a proper explanation, while the the consequences around them has led to millions of deaths and the displacement of populations, while politicians somehow all get very rich the higher up they go, at levels not corresponding at all with their paychecks.
In the last 20 years, that includes:

- Iraq war built on anger from Osama Bin Laden attack and fake information about WMDs.
- War in Libya
- Benghazi, an attack that lasted for almost 9 hours, no help was sent and the explanation from the people in charge was that there was a lot of information going back and forth, and who cares now anyhow.
- $152 billion to Iran, out of nowhere and with 2000 million dollars delivered in cash in the middle of the night. First it was all denied as as well. The official story for this is bullshit.
- Osama death but no proof.
- Globalization and outsourcing without any politicians having any focus on creating a setup that would keep jobs in the US instead, happened through multiple presidencies.
- Panama Papers release and no consequences but bad publicity, because it's all legal, made possible by politicians because of their donations(bribes).

There is obviously a ton of other events, but those are the most major ones for me and I believe it's all built around lies from the previous administrations and what people will probably refer to as the deep state or industrial military complex. It's my opinion that none of the people involved with those events or supporting it should be elected again and the only one you can vote for where these things are argued is Trump. Bernie used to talk a lot about this as well, but no so much anymore.

[CelticBaller]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bidens-and-china-business-11603236651?mod=e2two (https://archive.vn/RiIBc)



Comment from the article page:

Maybe the "big guy" is Trump himself? lmao

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/donald-trump-chinese-bank-account

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek3a8-fXIAMb6XN?format=jpg&name=small

[ZenMaster]

Maybe the "big guy" is Trump himself? lmao

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/donald-trump-chinese-bank-account

Trump using the presidency to enrich himself has always been a major concern for a lot of people, so if there's anything there, they should expose it.
Did the apartment really exist or is it a fake deal?
Was it sold ridiculously overpriced?
Did the guy who bought it get any favors from US policy?
Was the guy who bought it part of the CCP?

That would be interesting to know, because as laid out in the article it sounds like a simple sale of a penthouse owned by Trump.

With Joe, it's a bit different. He has a pattern of going into negotiations on behalf of the US and coming out without much to show, except for his family making deals for tons of money in the same places.

Like in China, he went there partially to discuss China not expanding their sea operations, but as time showed they did everything he was supposed to try and work against, and his family and himself made a shit ton of money.
Hunter got paid $10 mill a year guaranteed from a Chinese energy company and an investment company was made, half owned by CCP Chinese and half by the Biden's. The funding of this company came solely from the Chinese, a payoff for services. You think Chinese energy officials with CCP ties gives the Bidens 50% stake in a company worth $1.5 billion for nothing?
You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that after the trip, an American arm company was allowed to sell some radar technology to China which they weren't before, giving China access to create new weapons.

More deals like this will come out by the way before the debate, secret deals that we didn't know about and with information about the Chinese people who were given access in the US as part owners of these companies, it' Joe working with the CCP and getting paid heavily in the process. $4.5 billion is a number that's been thrown around a bit.

[Axe]

Well we're on an anonymous forum, so there's always a chance.

So what you're thinking is we're the same person, and I/him used the Cleverness profile to push stuff on covid, while the ZenMaster profile carries more information about potential high level conspiracies?

That's definitely an interesting theory.

I can say that as a person, I definitely wouldn't have been able to find and present the stuff that Cleverness did for the previous 10 months. I was actually quite worried about covid to begin with, so I thank Clever for posting that information which made a lot more sense than the official narrative of 14 days to flatten the curve.

As for myself and presenting conspiracies, I'm really nothing but a man of justice and honesty. My opinion is that elected officials misusing the trust and responsibility given to them by the voters for their personal gain, is one of the major things holding the world back. While I've been alive, there's some world events for which there's never been given a proper explanation, while the the consequences around them has led to millions of deaths and the displacement of populations, while politicians somehow all get very rich the higher up they go, at levels not corresponding at all with their paychecks.
In the last 20 years, that includes:

- Iraq war built on anger from Osama Bin Laden attack and fake information about WMDs.
- War in Libya
- Benghazi, an attack that lasted for almost 9 hours, no help was sent and the explanation from the people in charge was that there was a lot of information going back and forth, and who cares now anyhow.
- $152 billion to Iran, out of nowhere and with 2000 million dollars delivered in cash in the middle of the night. First it was all denied as as well. The official story for this is bullshit.
- Osama death but no proof.
- Globalization and outsourcing without any politicians having any focus on creating a setup that would keep jobs in the US instead, happened through multiple presidencies.
- Panama Papers release and no consequences but bad publicity, because it's all legal, made possible by politicians because of their donations(bribes).

There is obviously a ton of other events, but those are the most major ones for me and I believe it's all built around lies from the previous administrations and what people will probably refer to as the deep state or industrial military complex. It's my opinion that none of the people involved with those events or supporting it should be elected again and the only one you can vote for where these things are argued is Trump. Bernie used to talk a lot about this as well, but no so much anymore.
Hmm interesting. It's just a hunch tho but your current avy also resembled his previous avy here.

[ZenMaster]

Hmm interesting. It's just a hunch tho but your current avy also resembled his previous avy here.

I'll challenge anyone on the chain of events explained in this thread: https://archive.is/Oj9Dh
There used to be a lot of pictures with FOIA requests, pics of some of the weapons and other stuff, but it was scrubbed.
For the reasons explained in that thread, I just don't see how you could vote for these people again.