2003 New Jersey Nets vs. 2020 Miami Heat

[Lebron23]

Who do you think wins in a best of 7 series? Both of these two teams won two games against their finals opponents.

[Kiddlovesnets]

That Nets team swept through the Eastern Conference Semi Finals and Finals, two clean 4-0 sweeps against the Celtics and Pistons.

[RRR3]

That Nets team swept through the Eastern Conference Semi Finals and Finals, two clean 4-0 sweeps against the Celtics and Pistons.
Pistons hadn’t reached their potential yet and that Celtics team was just Paul Pierce and trash.

[tpols]

We had threads like this before.

The Nets were already considered better... add in the dragic and Bam injuries and it's not particularly close.

[ThatCoolKid]

That Nets team was not good :lol Kerry Kittles was the biggest scoring threat on that team. Young Kidd with no jumper and Kenyon Martin was basically a PnR lob threat with an inefficient jumper, except not athletic and barely 6'9. The East in 2003 was a joke compared to today.

[RRR3]

Poor ttrolls. Rough times for the lil fella. Sleepless nights spent sobbing into a bucket of ice cream while watching old Kobe highlights whispering “Mamba da bess” to himself.

[Bronbron23]

That Nets team was not good :lol Kerry Kittles was the biggest scoring threat on that team. Young Kidd with no jumper and Kenyon Martin was basically a PnR lob threat with an inefficient jumper, except not athletic and barely 6'9. The East in 2003 was a joke compared to today.

I think it feels that way because we have hindsight with the nets and are in the moment with the heat. Kittles was as tough as any heat gaurd not named butler and give me kenyon over bam any day. Bam is a bit more skilled but he dont have the heart and toughness of Kenyon. Then you have kid you was the leader and playmaker. No his 3 wasn't great yet but either is Butler's. He shot under 30% from 3 in the finals. Nets beat the heat in 6 or 7.

[RRR3]

Kenyon Martin over Bam lmaoooooooo

Dumbdumb23 with another classic.

[tpols]

I think it feels that way because we have hindsight with the nets and are in the moment with the heat. Kittles was as tough as any heat gaurd not named butler and give me kenyon over bam any day. Bam is a bit more skilled but he dont have the heart and toughness of Kenyon. Then you have kid you was the leader and playmaker. No his 3 wasn't great yet but either is Butler's. He shot under 30% from 3 in the finals. Nets beat the heat in 6 or 7.


It doesn't really matter though because Bam was hurt and missed the most important parts of the series. The 2003 Nets took the peak on fire Duncan Spurs to 6 and none of Duncan's best teammates got hurt. Hell Manu was in his mid 20's and a year removed from eliminating the 2004 USA Olympic team. If Miami was totally healthy and clicking on all cylinders I could see a chance of them winning but given how it played out they would get rocked.

[SouBeachTalents]

It doesn't really matter though because Bam was hurt and missed the most important parts of the series. The 2003 Nets took the peak on fire Duncan Spurs to 6 and none of Duncan's best teammates got hurt. Hell Manu was in his mid 20's and a year removed from eliminating the 2004 USA Olympic team. If Miami was totally healthy and clicking on all cylinders I could see a chance of them winning but given how it played out they would get rocked.
Manu was a rookie averaging 9 ppg on 52%TS in '03. Don't get fooled by the names on paper, Parker, Manu & Robinson weren't remotely close to playing at a star level in '03, Duncan carried that team.

The '03 team is easily the worst of the Spurs 5 title teams

[tpols]

Manu was a rookie averaging 9 ppg on 52%TS in '03. Don't get fooled by the names on paper, Parker, Manu & Robinson weren't remotely close to playing at a star level in '03, Duncan carried that team.

The '03 team is easily the worst of the Spurs 5 title teams

An injured 2020 Miami Heat isn't beating either the 2003 Spurs or Nets... and you know that.

Jimmy Butler isn't hanging Magic Johnson triple doubles on those defenses or in that league's defensive environment.

[Bronbron23]

It doesn't really matter though because Bam was hurt and missed the most important parts of the series. The 2003 Nets took the peak on fire Duncan Spurs to 6 and none of Duncan's best teammates got hurt. Hell Manu was in his mid 20's and a year removed from eliminating the 2004 USA Olympic team. If Miami was totally healthy and clicking on all cylinders I could see a chance of them winning but given how it played out they would get rocked.

Yeah true i was speaking on it as if they were healthy.

[SouBeachTalents]

An injured 2020 Miami Heat isn't beating either the 2003 Spurs or Nets... and you know that.

Jimmy Butler isn't hanging Magic Johnson triple doubles on those defenses or in that league's defensive environment.
I would honestly pick a healthy Heat team over the Nets though

[Kiddlovesnets]

I would honestly pick a healthy Heat team over the Nets though

That Nets team swept through the eastern conference, they are better than this year’s heat no doubt.

[SouBeachTalents]

That Nets team swept through the eastern conference, they are better than this year’s heat no doubt.
I give the Nets credit for sweeping the Pistons, esp without HCA, but imo Miami beating the Bucks in 5 then Boston is a more impressive run through the East. Then in the Finals with significant injuries they still took 2 games from the Lakers, who were a better team than the '03 Spurs

[tpols]

I give the Nets credit for sweeping the Pistons, esp without HCA, but imo Miami beating the Bucks in 5 then Boston is a more impressive run through the East. Then in the Finals with significant injuries they still took 2 games from the Lakers, who were a better team than the '03 Spurs

The '03 spurs also beat Shaq-Kobe Lakers, which is something 2020 Miami Heat wouldn't have a prayer of doing.

[leKING]

I think its between these two teams and the 2001 Sixers for worst finalist ever.

[Lebron23]

I think its between these two teams and the 2001 Sixers for worst finalist ever.

2007 Cavaliers

[leKING]

the Cavs as well. But I don't think they were as bad as those. Z was better than anyone in this heat team.

And lebron is so much better than Butler that even a difference in talent in their teammates (if we argue that miamis role players 》 cleveland's) wouldn't necessarily make the 2020 heat better than the 2007 Cavs.

[Kiddlovesnets]

I think its between these two teams and the 2001 Sixers for worst finalist ever.

1999 Knicks was the worst, period, unless you talk about 21st century only. 1986 Rockets were also quite, mediocre.

[leKING]

86 Rockets were much better. Samson and Hakeem.

Knicks maybe. But Allen Houston and Sprewell were better than Butler and Dragic by a hair in my opinion.

[ThatCoolKid]

Anyone who would take the 2003 Nets over the Heat is utterly brain dead. Someone brough up Ginobli, not realizing Ginobli was a no name scrub that Kidd was targeting on the defensive end the entirety of that series :lol

That Nets team was basically Jason Kidd and a bunch of bums, RJ wouldn't become a good player until a couple years later. Not a single player beside Kidd would have a place in the Heat's rotation. To put it in persepective, Tyler Hero would be the Nets leading scorer if you dropped him on that team.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Anyone who would take the 2003 Nets over the Heat is utterly brain dead. Someone brough up Ginobli, not realizing Ginobli was a no name scrub that Kidd was targeting on the defensive end the entirety of that series :lol

That Nets team was basically Jason Kidd and a bunch of bums, RJ wouldn't become a good player until a couple years later. Not a single player beside Kidd would have a place in the Heat's rotation. To put it in persepective, Tyler Hero would be the Nets leading scorer if you dropped him on that team.

Your post above was full of shit, clearly someone who never watched the NBA in 2000s. Oh yeah you were probably not born then, and your post history also showed how much misinformed and immature poster you are. It’s time to stop embarrassing yourself kid, try to get a university or at least community college degree so you won’t have to work at McDonald’s when you grow up.

[insidious301]

The 2003 Nets were weak. And did someone really say Kenyon Martin was better than Bam? Maybe post injury Bam, but otherwise that's a bad joke.

[Kiddlovesnets]

The 2003 Nets were weak. And did someone really say Kenyon Martin was better than Bam? Maybe post injury Bam, but otherwise that's a bad joke.

The nets swept through the Eastern conference semi finals and finals in dominant fashion and took the spurs to 6 games, as many as the Lakers and Mavericks did. All 4 losses went wire to wire and the Spurs needed to come from behind to avoid a game 7. Respect.

[insidious301]

The nets swept through the Eastern conference semi finals and finals in dominant fashion and took the spurs to 6 games, as many as the Lakers and Mavericks did. All 4 losses went wire to wire and the Spurs needed to come from behind to avoid a game 7. Respect.

Miami took out Milwuakee who had the #1 SRS of all time. They also beat Boston who many thought would make the finals. Those two opponents were better than every EC 2003 team. Good point about the Nets taking 2 away from the Spurs. They had a good defense and Kidd was an MVP candidate around that time. That being said, the 2020 Lakers were better than that Spurs team, and Miami took 2 off them as well.

[pandiani17]

The 2003 Nets were weak. And did someone really say Kenyon Martin was better than Bam? Maybe post injury Bam, but otherwise that's a bad joke.

This. Those Nets were not very good, to be honest. They were a run and gun team who could beat not-so-strong Eastern Conference teams, but overall, they were not very threatening, they didn't even have the typical go-to-guy who scored +20 points.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Miami took out Milwuakee who had the #1 SRS of all time. They also beat Boston who many thought would make the finals. Those two opponents were better than every EC 2003 team. Good point about the Nets taking 2 away from the Spurs. They had a good defense and Kidd was an MVP candidate around that time. That being said, the 2020 Lakers were better than that Spurs team, and Miami took 2 off them as well.

The Bucks were in very poor form since the bubble started, they lost to the Nets with NBDL rosters and then the similar Magic team in game 1 of playoffs. They've mentally checked out after the BLM incident, its not the same Bucks team as we saw in the earlier regular season.

[BasedTom]

The Bucks were in very poor form since the bubble started, they lost to the Nets with NBDL rosters and then the similar Magic team in game 1 of playoffs. They've mentally checked out after the BLM incident, its not the same Bucks team as we saw in the earlier regular season.
How do you explain how the Bucks were getting exposed by the Heat in the regular season as well, prior to the Bubble?

[Reggie43]

The East was arguably at its worst all time when the Nets dominated so its hard to gauge how good they really were. That year the East only had one 50 win team (Detroit) while the Nets themselves managed only 49 wins.

[kawhileonard2]

We had threads like this before.

The Nets were already considered better... add in the dragic and Bam injuries and it's not particularly close.

This