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Nike D'Antoni
10-15-2020, 11:57 AM
Spoelstra was matchup nitemare to Vogel, from 2012-2014 Spoelstra always shit on Vogel.
Then 2020 Vogel shits on Spoelstra.
The difference is who has Lebron, won. Teams wont bother with getting high profile coaches anymore, because it is about who has the players.

Tyronn Lue another example, he failed as coaching assistant with Clippers because he didn't have Lebron.

Nike D'Antoni
10-15-2020, 11:59 AM
That is why Clippers, Pelicans, Rockets , Pacers might not bother hiring coaches.

tpols
10-15-2020, 12:01 PM
You have it totally backwards... it was Vogel that used to shit on Spo. Spo is a great coach, but the big 3 Heat should've never been pushed to the brink by a baby Paul George and Roy Hibbert. That's a joke. Those series were more competitive than this years Finals.

insidious301
10-15-2020, 12:04 PM
Miami's best scorer was injured and DNP in the finals. I am not saying the Heat win otherwise although taking LA to 6 despite that is a win for Spoelstra. Beating Milwaukee and Boston as underdogs is another win for Spolestra. Don't conflate good coaching with Doc Rivers, a perpetual underachiever living off that 2008 ring.

AirBonner
10-15-2020, 01:14 PM
Only coach samuraiswish took a hit

light
10-15-2020, 01:18 PM
Spoelstra was matchup nitemare to Vogel, from 2012-2014 Spoelstra always shit on Vogel.
Then 2020 Vogel shits on Spoelstra.
The difference is who has Lebron, won. Teams wont bother with getting high profile coaches anymore, because it is about who has the players.

Tyronn Lue another example, he failed as coaching assistant with Clippers because he didn't have Lebron.

But Spo made it to the finals without LeBron.

Coaches aren't all the same obviously - some of them can take a weaker team further on the strength of their coaching. I don't think Vogel would've led the 2020 Miami Heat to the Finals.

bison
10-15-2020, 01:19 PM
Clippers definitely beat nuggets if they had a competent coach instead of doc.

JohnMax
10-15-2020, 01:25 PM
Lebron with white coach: 1-0 finals

Lebron with asian coach: 2-2 finals

Lebron with black coach: 1-4 finals (would be 0-5 if 2016 finals was not rigged)