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insidious301
10-15-2020, 12:41 PM
Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 49% field goal
Luka: 31/9/9 on 50% field goal
Embiid: 30 & 12 on 46% field goal
Harden 30/7/6 on 48% field goal
Davis: 28/10/4 on 57% field goal
Vucevic: 28/11/4 on 50% field goal
Kawhi: 28/9/6 on 49% field goal
Lebron: 27/11/9 on 56% field goal
Giannis: 27/14/6 on 55% field goal
Murray: 27/7/5 on 50% field goal
Butler: 22/7/6 on 48% field goal (26/10/8 on 55% field goal in the finals)
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
light
10-15-2020, 12:50 PM
Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 49% field goal
Luka: 31/9/9 on 50% field goal
Embiid: 30 & 12 on 46% field goal
Harden 30/7/6 on 48% field goal
Davis: 28/10/4 on 57% field goal
Vucevic: 28/11/4 on 50% field goal
Kawhi: 28/9/6 on 49% field goal
Lebron: 27/11/9 on 56% field goal
Giannis: 27/14/6 on 55% field goal
Murray: 27/7/5 on 50% field goal
Butler: 22/7/6 on 48% field goal (26/10/8 on 55% field goal in the finals)
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
LeBron averaged 27.6 points per game. AD averaged 27.7 points per game. You should have them both listed at 28.
Bronbron23
10-15-2020, 12:51 PM
Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 49% field goal
Luka: 31/9/9 on 50% field goal
Embiid: 30 & 12 on 46% field goal
Harden 30/7/6 on 48% field goal
Davis: 28/10/4 on 57% field goal
Vucevic: 28/11/4 on 50% field goal
Kawhi: 28/9/6 on 49% field goal
Lebron: 27/11/9 on 56% field goal
Giannis: 27/14/6 on 55% field goal
Murray: 27/7/5 on 50% field goal
Butler: 22/7/6 on 48% field goal (26/10/8 on 55% field goal in the finals)
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
Have to take it with a grain of salt. The rules put in place for this to happen matters. No fans matter also. Still great though
light
10-15-2020, 01:04 PM
Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 49% field goal
Luka: 31/9/9 on 50% field goal
Embiid: 30 & 12 on 46% field goal
Harden 30/7/6 on 48% field goal
Davis: 28/10/4 on 57% field goal
Vucevic: 28/11/4 on 50% field goal
Kawhi: 28/9/6 on 49% field goal
Lebron: 27/11/9 on 56% field goal
Giannis: 27/14/6 on 55% field goal
Murray: 27/7/5 on 50% field goal
Butler: 22/7/6 on 48% field goal (26/10/8 on 55% field goal in the finals)
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
Half of the players listed only played between 4-9 games. Embiid averaging 30/12 over 4 games doesn’t mean anything. The same applies to Doncic and Vucevic and their numbers over one series.
Only 3 players with significant playoff averages played more than 15 games - LeBron, AD and Murray.
FKAri
10-15-2020, 01:04 PM
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
Well it's the same ball. Same court. Same basket. The dimensions are all the same. Just better rested and less distractions. Somehow this ended up benefiting the offense more than the defense. Can't quite crack that one, personally.
insidious301
10-15-2020, 01:06 PM
LeBron averaged 27.6 points per game. AD averaged 27.7 points per game. You should have them both listed at 28.
Its a point off and I can't edit posts. You'll survive.
insidious301
10-15-2020, 01:31 PM
Have to take it with a grain of salt. The rules put in place for this to happen matters. No fans matter also. Still great though
I agree with that. If individual numbers were an indication then many were playing with house money. Similar to finals appearances, its hard to give an exact number or even a percentage on how much it matters.
Well it's the same ball. Same court. Same basket. The dimensions are all the same. Just better rested and less distractions. Somehow this ended up benefiting the offense more than the defense. Can't quite crack that one, personally.
How much value do you put in these numbers compared to ones from, say, 10 years ago? Perimeter play is more lax but the talent pool is deeper, I think.
Roundball_Rock
10-15-2020, 01:34 PM
Mitchell: 36/5/5 on 49% field goal
Luka: 31/9/9 on 50% field goal
Embiid: 30 & 12 on 46% field goal
Harden 30/7/6 on 48% field goal
Davis: 28/10/4 on 57% field goal
Vucevic: 28/11/4 on 50% field goal
Kawhi: 28/9/6 on 49% field goal
Lebron: 27/11/9 on 56% field goal
Giannis: 27/14/6 on 55% field goal
Murray: 27/7/5 on 50% field goal
Butler: 22/7/6 on 48% field goal (26/10/8 on 55% field goal in the finals)
Looks like most of the main stars were ATG statistically. How much weight do you put into these numbers, historically?
Bubble gum stats--although this makes PG struggling even worse since every star ate except PG. :lol I don't put stock into bubble stats.
The tough thing is how to assess the inflation? With pace you just adjust pace but here not having a crowd, not having travel, not having the depth perception you would need in an era of 20,000 versus what basically was a HS gym, etc. are hard to gauge.
What would be helpful is if someone looked at the listed players and their norms. What is the average deviation? Usually efficiency goes down in the playoffs because better teams=better defenses, although some players' counting stats go up via higher volume to offset the efficiency loss.
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