Nick Nurse "It is absolutely tied at the top between Jordan & Lebron"

[Nike D'Antoni]

"I have gone enough against Lebron to know he is the greatest too "

Nick Nurse
https://youtu.be/PN9HQeLFhYY?t=363


He shat on Kawhi

[2ball]

"I have gone enough against Lebron to know he is the greatest too "

Nick Nurse
https://youtu.be/PN9HQeLFhYY?t=363


He shat on Kawhi

Kawhi is a couple tiers below LeBron. Very good still but can’t lead a team and can’t win without two other star players who are equal to him

[scuzzy]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlQ7LRalQqdWfao/giphy.gif

[Goldrush25]

Oh man, in this election season the ballots are piling up. Not looking good for MJ.

[Manny98]

Yep it's

1. LeBron
2. MJ

And everyone else

[Kiddlovesnets]

Lebron has already lost the chance to match/surpass MJ since 2007, since any loss in a NBA finals series immediately disqualifies a player from GOAT conversation. In order to surpass MJ, a perfect 100% finals winning percentage is a necessary condition. Lebron cant go back in time, hes not a time traveler and he cant build a time machine, so its already theoretically impossible for Lebron to be GOAT.

/thread

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron has already lost the chance to match/surpass MJ since 2007, since any loss in a NBA finals series immediately disqualifies a player from GOAT conversation. In order to surpass MJ, a perfect 100% finals winning percentage is a necessary condition. Lebron cant go back in time, hes not a time traveler and he cant build a time machine, so its already theoretically impossible for Lebron to be GOAT.

/thread
Thankfully Nick Nurse doesn't believe retarded sentiments like this

[leKING]

I think this is the safe answer. When they dont want to commit, they just say Jordan and Lebron are tired at the top.

[Kiddlovesnets]

People really need to calm down about it. I bet next year if Lebron loses in the Finals to go 4/11, the posters here will start to compare him to Kobe again and question if hes top 10 all time. Such over-reactions are nothing new.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Lebron has already lost the chance to match/surpass MJ since 2007, since any loss in a NBA finals series immediately disqualifies a player from GOAT conversation. In order to surpass MJ, a perfect 100% finals winning percentage is a necessary condition. Lebron cant go back in time, hes not a time traveler and he cant build a time machine, so its already theoretically impossible for Lebron to be GOAT.

/thread

It doesn't get much dumber than thinking losing in the finals is worse than losing in the first round.

[BigtimeNBAFan]

If nothing else, this past season shut up the idiotic "Kawhi is better than Lebron" people. The goat conversation will never end, but there is no credibility to Kawhi fanboys now.

[SouBeachTalents]

It doesn't get much dumber than thinking losing in the finals is worse than losing in the first round.
It's literally penalizing winning more and being more successful, absolutely illogical :lol

[Kiddlovesnets]

It doesn't get much dumber than thinking losing in the finals is worse than losing in the first round.

Losing in the Finals means that your team is good enough to contend for title but the star player failed to make it happen, the star player always needs to take blame. Losing in the first round however, will depend on context since it might have been a humiliating upset(ie. #1 seed losing to #8), or its just that the team aint close to a contender(#7-8 seed getting swept). For MJ, it was always the latter scenario, his team wasnt good enough to compete so he lost in 1st round, which would not hurt his legacy at all. Interestingly, MJ never lost a playoffs series when his team was favorite to win, such dominance was unprecedented.

[tpols]

Losing in the Finals means that your team is good enough to contend for title but the star player failed to make it happen, the star player always needs to take blame. Losing in the first round however, will depend on context since it might have been a humiliating upset(ie. #1 seed losing to #8), or its just that the team aint close to a contender(#7-8 seed getting swept). For MJ, it was always the latter scenario, his team wasnt good enough to compete so he lost in 1st round, which would not hurt his legacy at all. Interestingly, MJ never lost a playoffs series when his team was favorite to win, such dominance was unprecedented.

Yup, MJ is expected to beat the GOAT Bird Celtics with cokehead Orlando Woolridge, but Lebron gets a pass for losing with prime Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. :lol

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi had to carry Nurse in playoffs. Multiple game winners in 76ers series, guarding Giannis, finals MVP.

Let me know when high school zone defense Nick Nurse actually makes it past 2nd round without Kawhi. Spoelstra already made the finals and won 2 games without LeBron.

[SouBeachTalents]

Yup, MJ is expected to beat the GOAT Bird Celtics with cokehead Orlando Woolridge, but Lebron gets a pass for losing with prime Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. :lol
LeBron gets a pass for 2011 now :oldlol: C'mon

[Kiddlovesnets]

Kawhi had to carry Nurse in playoffs. Multiple game winners in 76ers series, guarding Giannis, finals MVP.

Let me know when high school zone defense Nick Nurse actually makes it past 2nd round without Kawhi. Spoelstra already made the finals and won 2 games without LeBron.

Well it was only his 2nd season as head coach though.

[light]

"I have gone enough against Lebron to know he is the greatest too "

Nick Nurse
https://youtu.be/PN9HQeLFhYY?t=363


He shat on Kawhi

Coaches know what's up.

Bron is crazy good at basketball from an intellectual perspective alone - most fans do not understand or appreciate everything he does from the preparatory side.

David Griffin:

"He's so cerebral. We used to joke that he was a computer on learning mode. He's such a savant, and he figures out the angles to such a huge degree. I was in the gym when I watched him on the floor against Toronto tell Patrick Patterson where he was supposed to go on the play they had called out of a timeout late in the fourth quarter. He was like 'No Pat, you're supposed to stand over there and set a pin down for DeMar [DeRozan] over here.'"

DeMar DeRozan:

"I remember, it was a play we was trying to run and one of our teammates forgot the play, and Bron told him the play. Like it was some crazy shit. We calling a play and he was like, ‘What?’ And Bron told him what our play was."

99.9% of players simply do not do anything like that. That's coach level sh-t.

There are no stories like that about Michael Jordan.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Coaches know what's up.

Bron is crazy good at basketball from an intellectual perspective alone - most fans do not understand or appreciate everything he does from the preparatory side.

David Griffin:

"He's so cerebral. We used to joke that he was a computer on learning mode. He's such a savant, and he figures out the angles to such a huge degree. I was in the gym when I watched him on the floor against Toronto tell Patrick Patterson where he was supposed to go on the play they had called out of a timeout late in the fourth quarter. He was like 'No Pat, you're supposed to stand over there and set a pin down for DeMar [DeRozan] over here.'"

DeMar DeRozan:

"I remember, it was a play we was trying to run and one of our teammates forgot the play, and Bron told him the play. Like it was some crazy shit. We calling a play and he was like, ‘What?’ And Bron told him what our play was."

99.9% of players simply do not do anything like that. That's coach level sh-t.

There are no stories like that about Michael Jordan.

This is the type of shit that casuals just will never understand

LeBron is the SMARTEST player in history on top of being the most athletic person in human history.

He has redicilious fluid intelligence and crystal intelligence for basketball.


You add durability, longevity, and consistent dedication and you have the greatest athlete ever, without a close 2nd.

LeBron James.

[plowking]

Losing in the Finals means that your team is good enough to contend for title but the star player failed to make it happen, the star player always needs to take blame. Losing in the first round however, will depend on context since it might have been a humiliating upset(ie. #1 seed losing to #8), or its just that the team aint close to a contender(#7-8 seed getting swept). For MJ, it was always the latter scenario, his team wasnt good enough to compete so he lost in 1st round, which would not hurt his legacy at all. Interestingly, MJ never lost a playoffs series when his team was favorite to win, such dominance was unprecedented.


Losing in the first round means that your team is good enough to get to the first round and contend to win. Hence, since they are good enough to win in the first round, they are good enough to win in the second, since they should have won in the first. Then the second too because they technically could have made it. Third as well. Then the finals too.

[Roundball_Rock]

LeBron gets a pass for 2011 now :oldlol: C'mon

:oldlol:

Also note he dismisses Woolridge as a "cokehead." Woolridge was MJ's highest scoring teammate--isn't PPG all that matters? By their metric, Woolridge was MJ's best teammate. Coke or no coke. He put up 23 PPG with MJ and 25 PPG later on after MJ.


Losing in the first round means that your team is good enough to get to the first round and contend to win. Hence, since they are good enough to win in the first round, they are good enough to win in the second, since they should have won in the first. Then the second too because they technically could have made it. Third as well. Then the finals too.

Yeah, the logic that because you made the finals you automatically had a team good enough to win (an odd comment for a supposed Nets/Kidd fan, who was in the finals with a 49 win team against a dynasty :lol ) makes no sense. You can apply that to any round, like you just did. Yet we only hear it for the finals.

[8Ball]

Nick Nurse and Lowry carried Load Management. 17-5 when Load Management was on vacation.

[plowking]

Yeah, the logic that because you made the finals you automatically had a team good enough to win (an odd comment for a supposed Nets/Kidd fan, who was in the finals with a 49 win team against a dynasty :lol ) makes no sense. You can apply that to any round, like you just did. Yet we only hear it for the finals.

Exactly.

I'm a Heat fan and to be honest shocked we made the finals. I was never a Jimmy Butler fan, but he won me over hardcore this season. I think he is a lot better now than I thought he was prior to this season. He certainly didn't lose anything as far as career ranking or who he is as a player because he lost in the finals. His stock rose a tonne this season.

[WhiteKyrie]

Yup, MJ is expected to beat the GOAT Bird Celtics with cokehead Orlando Woolridge, but Lebron gets a pass for losing with prime Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. :lol
Truth

:oldlol:

[3ball]

Even if Nurse was right, the disadvantage that Jordan had by coming first breaks the tie..

Give MJ all the advantages that today's player gets - better training, load management, possibly the HGH, and an easier game designed for perimeter players - Jordan would obviously be better than before, whereas lebron already gets these things yet the best anyone can say is a tie..lol.. that means Jordan is much better

[TheGoatest]

Kawhi had to carry Nurse in playoffs. Multiple game winners in 76ers series, guarding Giannis, finals MVP.

Let me know when high school zone defense Nick Nurse actually makes it past 2nd round without Kawhi. Spoelstra already made the finals and won 2 games without LeBron.

It's a testament to Nurse's greatness that he was able to win a championship despite the handicap of having a player who was able to pull off the biggest choke job in history the following season.