89 Cavaliers vs 2015 Hawks

[2ball]

Who was better?

Carroll
Horford
Korver
Schroder
Teague

Stacked 4 all stars

Vs

Daugherty
Dudley
Ehlo
Price
Nance

[3ball]

Who was better?

Carroll
Horford
Korver
Schroder
Teague

Stacked 4 all stars

Vs

Daugherty
Dudley
Ehlo
Price
Nance

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the best player on the Hawks, but he was 4th on the Cavs

Btw, JR Smith played better offensively vs Hawks than pippen ever did - JR averaged 19 on 80% or something

So Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, so he never had a carry-job against a good team..

otoh, MJ had 5 carry-jobs against good teams - he beat the #1 SRS Cavs with 15 on 40% from Pippen and ditto the 96' Finals, 98' Finals, 98' ECF, and 97' ECF.. yikes

[TheGoatest]

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the best player on the Hawks, but he was 4th on the Cavs


You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.

[TheCorporation]

You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.

Yikes :lol Gottem

[SouBeachTalents]

You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.
:roll:

[8Ball]

2015 Hawks won 60 games which is more than those garbage 89 Cavaliers.

LeBron swept them.


2015 Hawks > 1998 Pacers.

[NBAGOAT]

You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.

you gotta think farther ahead 3ball :oldlol:. we're going have another ad is birdfed situation

[TheCorporation]

you gotta think farther ahead 3ball :oldlol:. we're going have another ad is birdfed situation

:roll::roll:

[2ball]

you gotta think farther ahead 3ball :oldlol:. we're going have another ad is birdfed situation

:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:

[3ball]

You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.

Harper averaged 6 ppg in 1995 for the 65 games before MJ came back

So I don't know what you're talking about.. pippen's ball-dominance must've killed him :lol

[And1AllDay]

You mean the numbers he averaged the season right before he joined the Bulls?

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the second best player LeBron had between 2003-2010, but was a distant 4th best player (if not 5th best after Kukoc) Jordan had on his team. Yikes.

:roll::oldlol:

[Roundball_Rock]

Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the best player on the Hawks, but he was 4th on the Cavs

Damn, so Ron Harper was so good he could be the best player on a 60 win team but on the Bulls he was their 5th best player and in an even time share with Kerr. How stacked were the Bulls? :bowdown:

[MadDog]

The 2015 Hawks were pretenders of the highest order. Wasn't their best player Al "The Godfather" Horford? :oldlol: Both Daughtery and Price were better players, handily.

[Trollsmasher]

Harper averaged 6 ppg in 1995 for the 65 games before MJ came back

So I don't know what you're talking about.. pippen's ball-dominance must've killed him :lol

Jordan reduced him, as per usual

[Gus Hemmingway]

The two-way Ron Harper (20/5/5) would be the best player on the Hawks, but he was 4th on the Cavs

Btw, JR Smith played better offensively vs Hawks than pippen ever did - JR averaged 19 on 80% or something

So Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick, so he never had a carry-job against a good team..

otoh, MJ had 5 carry-jobs against good teams - he beat the #1 SRS Cavs with 15 on 40% from Pippen and ditto the 96' Finals, 98' Finals, 98' ECF, and 97' ECF.. yikes

:roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

Jordan reduced him, as per usual

Here is the data for the Bulls' top 5 scorers in 95' before and after MJ came back.

Pippen w/out Jordan: 21.9/8.4/5.1 18.7 GS 56.1% TS 27.1% US
Pippen with Jordan: 19.7/6.9/5.6 16.7 GS 54.9% TS 24.6% US

Kukoc w/out Jordan: 16.4/5.5/4.6 14.1 GS 57.9% TS 22.6% US
Kukoc with Jordan: 13.0/5.3/4.4 11.5 GS 55.8% TS 19.8% US

Armstrong w/out Jordan: 14.7/2.3/3.2 10.5 GS 56.2% TS 20.2% US
Armstrong with Jordan: 11.4/2.1/2.1 9.4 GS 66.6% TS 14.6% US

Kerr w/out Jordan: 8.2/1.4/1.8 6.3 GS 63.5% TS 14.3% US
Kerr with Jordan: 8.4/1.8/1.8 7.1 GS 63.7% TS 13.3% US

Perdue w/out Jordan: 8.5/7.0/1.1 7.1 GS 57.6% TS 19.4% US
Perdue with Jordan: 6.1/5.6/1.2 5.8 GS 54.2% TS 14.8% US

5 leading scorers without Jordan: 69.7 PPG 11.3 GS 58.3% TS 20.7% US
5 leading scorers with Jordan: 58.6 PPG 10.1 GS 59.0% TS 17.4% US

BJ benefitted immensely (probably a hot streak--his career best season was 1994 without MJ), Kerr was the same either way but Pippen, Kukoc, Perdue all crashed.