Kawhi eliminated the #1 and #2 SRS teams in 2019 playoffs

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Bucks were #1 SRS and Warriors were #2 SRS.

Has any other player ever eliminated the top 2 SRS teams? Or at least the top 2 SRS teams that doesn't include them.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kawh1/11

This is his city

[red1]

3-1 gag city

[Stanley Kobrick]

]https://i.postimg.cc/2Sfbp260/yhtgya9c3zm51.jpg

[LoneyROY7]

Brian Windhorst.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawh1/11

This is his city

Did LeBron in 2016 beat the #1 and #2 SRS teams? Nope hahahah

Bubble doesn't count foo, it's like Vegas. What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

[FireDavidKahn]

Warriors were down Durant and Klay got injured.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

]https://i.postimg.cc/2Sfbp260/yhtgya9c3zm51.jpg

He's still better then 2011 Jason Terry.

[red1]

load-managed his way to a 3-1 choke

[FKAri]

https://i.redd.it/2eapqjn08rn51.jpg

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Brian Windhorst.

You choked a 3-2 lead in 2018 WCF and missed a thousand three pointers in game 7, that's close enough.

[LoneyROY7]

You choked a 3-2 lead in 2018 WCF and missed a thousand three pointers in game 7, that's close enough.

KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond is definitely close enough to a 7 foot Brian Windhorst.

[red1]

"jamal murray for three... bang!!!"

[2ball]

Lowry was an equal and matched Kawhi’s production

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://i.redd.it/2eapqjn08rn51.jpg

Show me when LeBron eliminated prime kawhi. Never going to happen. Lucky that the bubble and Doc saved you this year.

Just accept the fact that Kawhi owns LeBron 7-5 finals record over him and he was barely old enough to go in bars hahaaha

[HBK_Kliq_2]

KD, Steph, Klay, and Draymond is definitely close enough to a 7 foot Brian Windhorst.

In the bubble? You damn right they are. Mitchell looked like Jordan in the bubble.

[red1]

Show me when LeBron eliminated prime kawhi. Never going to happen. Lucky that the bubble and Doc saved you this year.

Just accept the fact that Kawhi owns LeBron 7-5 finals record over him and he was barely old enough to go in bars hahaaha

choked a 3-1 lead doe hahaaha

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lowry was an equal and matched Kawhi’s production

732 points fat boy. I know that's you Lowry. Nobody else would be dumb enough to say this.

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://i.redd.it/2eapqjn08rn51.jpg
:biggums:

[red1]

2020 reigning champ is it the clippers or is it the lakers. I wonder.

[LoneyROY7]

In the bubble? You damn right they are. Mitchell looked like Jordan in the bubble.

Mitchell looked like Jordan against a trash Denver defense.

The same defense that completely locked Kawhi down when it mattered most.

[Stanley Kobrick]

https://i.postimg.cc/3RdJ0b9C/jNK5BYT.jpg (https://postimg.cc/JDCW9xfG)

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Mitchell looked like Jordan against a trash Denver defense.

The same defense that completely locked Kawhi down when it mattered most.

Kawhi still led all players in GmSc vs nuggets

Mitchell had a 34 PER and 70% TS but still lost to Nuggets.

LeBron is the only one with the luxury of a sidekick averaging 31PPG and higher GmSc then he has vs nuggets

[2ball]

Apparently having two 6th men of the year coming off the bench wasn’t enough help

[LoneyROY7]

Donovan Mitchell vs. Nuggets: 36ppg on 53 percent.

Kawhi vs. Nuggets: 24 ppg on 45 percent.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://i.postimg.cc/3RdJ0b9C/jNK5BYT.jpg (https://postimg.cc/JDCW9xfG)


https://youtu.be/a4nQlShRLbE

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Donovan Mitchell vs. Nuggets: 36ppg on 53 percent.

Kawhi vs. Nuggets: 24 ppg on 45 percent.

And they still both lost, that should tell you something. Bubble is hard as shit to play defense. Only one who beat nuggets was Anthony Davis with a 22 GmSc and 31PPG.

[SouBeachTalents]

And they still both lost, that should tell you something. Bubble is hard as shit to play defense. Only one who beat nuggets was Anthony Davis with a 22 GmSc and 31PPG.
Hard as shit to play defense in the bubble and Kawhi could only muster 14 points on 6/22 in Game 7 :biggums:

[SATAN]

1/11

[RRR3]

Hard as shit to play defense in the bubble and Kawhi could only muster 14 points on 6/22 in Game 7 :biggums:
Kawhi just isn’t a big game player.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Hard as shit to play defense in the bubble and Kawhi could only muster 14 points on 6/22 in Game 7 :biggums:

1 game sample size is a pretty shit argument. He had 28PPG for playoffs and shot 55% FG on 2 point shots. That's goat level scoring/shooting production. By game 7 he figured to just let Denver have it because the bubble is an asterisk anyway.

[SouBeachTalents]

By game 7 he figured to just let Denver have it because the bubble is an asterisk anyway.
Strange then he'd go up 3-1 and build near 20 point leads in Games 5 & 6 if he thought it was an asterisk

[SATAN]

1 game sample size is a pretty shit argument. He had 28PPG for playoffs and shot 55% FG on 2 point shots. That's goat level scoring/shooting production. By game 7 he figured to just let Denver have it because the bubble is an asterisk anyway.

He choked. Get over it.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Hard as shit to play defense in the bubble and Kawhi could only muster 14 points on 6/22 in Game 7 :biggums:

It would never go game 7 if Kawhi had a guy putting up a 22 GmSc and 31PPG in the first five games. Ya know? Anthony Davis

[TheCorporation]

*Kyle Lowry

We've already seen Kawhi's leadership in 2020 vs Nuggets, nothing to see here people move along.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi just isn’t a big game player.

Game 7 vs 76ers was the greatest game 7 in NBA history

- 48% usage
- 41 points
- buzzer beater game winner
- 11.8 BPM
- guarding jimmy butler

[HBK_Kliq_2]

*Kyle Lowry

We've already seen Kawhi's leadership in 2020 vs Nuggets, nothing to see here people move along.

Lowry can't make the finals without Kawhi

Old spurs 2009-2011 couldn't make finals without Kawhi either

[2ball]

List Kawhi’s leadership qualities

[SouBeachTalents]

Game 7 vs 76ers was the greatest game 7 in NBA history

- 48% usage
- 41 points
- buzzer beater game winner
- 11.8 BPM
- guarding jimmy butler
:oldlol: Not even you believe that

[kawhileonard2]

Kawhi is the man that is why.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I asked to name me a player who eliminated a #1 and #2 SRS in a single playoff run.

A harden fan pops up? Hahahah Wow Harden has never even eliminated #1 or #2 SRS in his ENTIRE PRIME, let alone in 1 single playoff run. Only time Harden had playoff success was when he was kissing Durant's ass or Chris Paul is healthy enough to carry him hahahha hahahah pathetic

[TheCorporation]

https://i.redd.it/2eapqjn08rn51.jpg

Wow BRUTAL

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Strange then he'd go up 3-1 and build near 20 point leads in Games 5 & 6 if he thought it was an asterisk

Kawhi was trying the first 5 games. But then realized his teammates can't handle the bubble and its an asterisk mickey mouse hoop anyway, so he said "screw you guys I'm going home" like cartman hahaha

[TheCorporation]

Game 7 vs 76ers was the greatest game 7 in NBA history

- 48% usage
- 41 points
- buzzer beater game winner
- 11.8 BPM
- guarding jimmy butler

Not even top 10 noob

https://i.postimg.cc/MpXh5PVr/Combined-Info.png

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Not even top 10 noob

https://i.postimg.cc/MpXh5PVr/Combined-Info.png

Kawhi was the only one playing a super team Butler/Embiid/Simmons

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi is the man that is why.

Exactly. These imbeciles will figure it out sooner or later.

[Axe]

Kawhi was the only one playing a super team Butler/Embiid/Simmons
Superteam? :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Kawhi was the only one playing a super team Butler/Embiid/Simmons
'08 Celtics & '13 Spurs >>> '19 76ers

[HBK_Kliq_2]

'08 Celtics & '13 Spurs >>> '19 76ers

2013 spurs were overrated. Bunch of players past their prime or haven't hit their prime. They played Pau Gasol Lakers lol and then Marc Gasol grizzles. D'antoni coaching Dwight hahahah that's like a personal trainer dating a fat girl. And Dwight was washed up as a best player, never was a great one to begin with. They didn't have to face Durant either.

2008 Celtics you lost the damn series and arguably outplayed by Paul Pierce. Pierce/Butler are similar players as well in terms if impact. Imagine if Butler went off for 41 points and 73% TS? Nurse had Kawhi guard Butler in game 7.

[light]

Bucks were #1 SRS and Warriors were #2 SRS.

Has any other player ever eliminated the top 2 SRS teams? Or at least the top 2 SRS teams that doesn't include them.

SRS is an old NFL statistic that people started using for the NBA. The creator of the stat says it's predictive and not retrodictive, meaning it's poor at analyzing what a team did in the past and is mostly useful for predicting what a team may do in the future.


SRS is a predictive system rather than a retrodictive system - this is a very important distinction. Some ratings try to answer the question: which team is stronger? I.e. which team is more likely to win a game tomorrow? Some ratings try to answer the question: which of these teams accomplished more in the past? The systems that answer the first questions more accurately are called predictive systems. The systems that answer the other questions more accurately are called retrodictive systems. As it turns out, SRS is a pretty good predictive system. For the reasons described below, SRS is not a good retrodictive system.


Retrodiction, noun, /ˌretrəˈdikSH(ə)n/: the explanation or interpretation of past actions or events inferred from the laws that are assumed to have governed them.

The creator of SRS continues about its drawbacks:


"It weights all games equally - every football fan knows that the Colts' week 17 game against Arizona was a meaningless exhibition, but the algorithm gives it the same weight as all the rest of the games.

It weights all points equally, and therefore ignores wins and losses - If you take away 10 points from the Colts in week 3 and give them back 10 points in week 4, you've just changed their record, but you haven't changed their rating at all. If you take away 10 points in week 3 and give back 20 points in week 4, you have made their record worse but their rating better. Most football fans put a high premium on the few points that move you from a 3-point loss to a 3-point win and almost no weight on the many points that move you from a 20-point win to a 50-point win.

It is easily impressed by blowout victories - this system thinks a 50-point win and a 10-point loss is preferable to two 14-point wins. Most fans would disagree with that assessment.

It is slightly biased toward offensive-minded teams - because it considers point margins instead of point ratios, it treats a 50-30 win as more impressive than a 17-0 win. Again, this is an assessment that most fans would disagree with.

This should go without saying, but - I'll say it anyway. The system does not take into account injuries, weather conditions, yardage gained, the importance of the game, whether it was a Monday Night game or not, whether the quarterback's grandomother was sick, or anything else besides points scored and points allowed."

In any case, you're making all kinds of mistakes by thinking it means something when you use it to analyze past events.

[2ball]

Op likes getting beaten like a dead horse

[SouBeachTalents]

Op likes getting beaten like a dead horse
Or like Kawhi by 7'1 Windhorst

[light]

SRS is an old NFL statistic that people started using for the NBA. The creator of the stat says it's predictive and not retrodictive, meaning it's poor at analyzing what a team did in the past and is mostly useful for predicting what a team may do in the future.


SRS is a predictive system rather than a retrodictive system - this is a very important distinction. Some ratings try to answer the question: which team is stronger? I.e. which team is more likely to win a game tomorrow? Some ratings try to answer the question: which of these teams accomplished more in the past? The systems that answer the first questions more accurately are called predictive systems. The systems that answer the other questions more accurately are called retrodictive systems. As it turns out, SRS is a pretty good predictive system. For the reasons described below, SRS is not a good retrodictive system.


Retrodiction, noun, /ˌretrəˈdikSH(ə)n/: the explanation or interpretation of past actions or events inferred from the laws that are assumed to have governed them.

The creator of SRS continues about its drawbacks:


"It weights all games equally - every football fan knows that the Colts' week 17 game against Arizona was a meaningless exhibition, but the algorithm gives it the same weight as all the rest of the games.

It weights all points equally, and therefore ignores wins and losses - If you take away 10 points from the Colts in week 3 and give them back 10 points in week 4, you've just changed their record, but you haven't changed their rating at all. If you take away 10 points in week 3 and give back 20 points in week 4, you have made their record worse but their rating better. Most football fans put a high premium on the few points that move you from a 3-point loss to a 3-point win and almost no weight on the many points that move you from a 20-point win to a 50-point win.

It is easily impressed by blowout victories - this system thinks a 50-point win and a 10-point loss is preferable to two 14-point wins. Most fans would disagree with that assessment.

It is slightly biased toward offensive-minded teams - because it considers point margins instead of point ratios, it treats a 50-30 win as more impressive than a 17-0 win. Again, this is an assessment that most fans would disagree with.

This should go without saying, but - I'll say it anyway. The system does not take into account injuries, weather conditions, yardage gained, the importance of the game, whether it was a Monday Night game or not, whether the quarterback's grandomother was sick, or anything else besides points scored and points allowed."

In any case, you're making all kinds of mistakes by thinking it means something when you use it to analyze past events.

Just to piggyback on what I said here. A PSA:

When you look at older statistical systems like SRS you have to appreciate the fact that a lot of them (most of them?) were made for the betting community - people who are trying to figure out who's going to win the next game. They were less interested in interpreting past events because they already knew who won past games, and for developers there was no profit involved in developing statistical systems for understanding the past.

Even today franchises mostly want to understand what is happening now and what may happen in the future and they are far less interested (as in 100% disinterested) in understanding things like whether the 1989 Cavs would beat the 2012 Celtics, so modern statistical systems also lean predictive.

But knowing whether a system is predictive or retrodictive is obviously key.

SRS is predictive.

[TheCorporation]

Kawhi was the only one playing a super team Butler/Embiid/Simmons


Are you really trying to prop up his above average Game 7 2019 24.2 Game Score when literally 10 players have a Game 7 GameScore over 30? Seek help :lol Math and numbers must hard for some people

[TheCorporation]

2013 spurs were overrated. Bunch of players past their prime or haven't hit their prime. They played Pau Gasol Lakers lol and then Marc Gasol grizzles. D'antoni coaching Dwight hahahah that's like a personal trainer dating a fat girl. And Dwight was washed up as a best player, never was a great one to begin with. They didn't have to face Durant either.

2008 Celtics you lost the damn series and arguably outplayed by Paul Pierce. Pierce/Butler are similar players as well in terms if impact. Imagine if Butler went off for 41 points and 73% TS? Nurse had Kawhi guard Butler in game 7.

Look at LeBron's Game 7 that year. That's a grown man Game 7. Kawhi is lacking

LBJ in 2008 Game 7 vs Boston: 45-5-6-2 on 48% (Boston #1 Defense,, #1 SRS rating, top 20 SRS all-time) :lol You idiot
Kiwi in 2019 Game 7 vs 76ers: 41-8-3-3 on 41% (Philly #8 Defense, #11 SRS rating, not top 100 SRS all-time)