Are we choosing to ignore the Muslim that beheaded a teacher?

[rawimpact]

So this guy gets to escape his shit hole and harbor in France as a refugee and better his life. But is against the policies and laws such as freedom of expression that make it so... and he goes on to behead a teacher who showed drawings of a pedophile Moe.

Witnesses heard him yelling allahu akbar

religion of peace strikes again

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827

[ZenMaster]

So this guy gets to escape his shit hole and harbor in France as a refugee and better his life. But is against the policies and laws such as freedom of expression that make it so... and he goes on to behead a teacher who showed drawings of a pedophile Moe.

Witnesses heard him yelling allahu akbar

religion of peace strikes again

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54581827

Apparently he took a picture of the guys head after cutting it off as well and it's quite easily found now as well.
Horrible stuff, RIP.

[iamgine]

This is why Islamic countries all around the world are taking steps to deradicalized Muslims, even at the cost of some freedom of speech. Preachers at mosques are monitored, and if they are preaching radicalism, they will be 'removed' one way or another. Only peaceful Islam that aligns with the government's vision are allowed. Western countries need to do the same.

[Nanners]

This is why Islamic countries all around the world are taking steps to deradicalized Muslims, even at the cost of some freedom of speech. Preachers at mosques are monitored, and if they are preaching radicalism, they will be 'removed' one way or another. Only peaceful Islam that aligns with the government's vision are allowed. Western countries need to do the same.

What do you mean "at the cost of some freedom of speech"?

No Islamic county on this planet has anything remotely close to resembling "free speech". The UAE is probably the most "liberal" islamic country, and theres several types of speech that can potentially send you to prison in that country, including saying simple swear words (or even posting swear words online).

[iamgine]

What do you mean "at the cost of some freedom of speech"?

No Islamic county on this planet has anything remotely close to resembling "free speech". The UAE is probably the most "liberal" islamic country, and theres several types of speech that can potentially send you to prison in that country, including saying simple swear words (or even posting swear words online).
It include countries with majority Muslim population.

Also, I didn't say they had plenty or little of freedom of speech to begin with. Every country is different. Just that now they sacrificed freedom of speech even more by monitoring preachers.

[tpols]

They need to stop letting them into europe. I know it's for "diversity" but alot of those people are brainwashed savages. Let them stay where they are and not invade your society. Muslim empires have been trying to conquer Europeans for many centuries... why are you willingly letting them in when we won (for now) ?

[Nanners]

It include countries with majority Muslim population.

Also, I didn't say they had plenty or little of freedom of speech to begin with. Every country is different. Just that now they sacrificed freedom of speech even more by monitoring preachers.

sorry if my post sounded combative, that was not my intention

anyway I am pretty sure there is not a single country with majority muslim population that has anything resembling free speech

[Nanners]

They need to stop letting them into europe. I know it's for "diversity" but alot of those people are brainwashed savages. Let them stay where they are and not invade your society. Muslim empires have been trying to conquer Europeans for many centuries... why are you willingly letting them in when we won (for now) ?

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

[iamgine]

sorry if my post sounded combative, that was not my intention

anyway I am pretty sure there is not a single country with majority muslim population that has anything resembling free speech

Well that's a pretty low bar. For example, in many muslim majority countries, the people can hold demonstration and openly criticize the government. That's clearly something resembling free speech.

[Nanners]

Well that's a pretty low bar. For example, in many muslim majority countries, the people can hold demonstration and openly criticize the government. That's clearly something resembling free speech.

Not really. When Iranian or Pakistani muslims protest their government, the govt typically responds with an iron fist and/or live ammunation.

Which majority muslim countries are you talking about specifically? If you sort this list of muslim countries by % muslim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country), you basically wind up with a list of the most extreme and repressive countries on this planet... and you wont see any nation on that list with >50% muslim population that has anything resembling "free speech"

[tpols]

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

I agree we have ****ed with them for power and money, and that is bad. But they were ass backwards way before that. They are like our version of west virginia hillbillies... a lot of them are extremely low IQ and not fit to be in our modern society. But it's even worse because they live under an extremely barbaric religion. Islam has a lot of great principles to it, but it also has a lot of really rigid savage ones as well.

[tpols]

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.

If western nations want Muslims to stay in their Islamic home nations, these western nations should be strengthening islamic countries, rather than overthrowing their governments and perpetuating a seemingly endless cycle of violence and chaos.

And I'd also like to add Donald Trump is the best president we've ever had to your point. He's constantly going on and on about stopping the "endless wars". There's a huge machine behind him that won't let it completely end, but he's pushing for it as hard as any president ever has.

[iamgine]

Not really. When Iranian or Pakistani muslims protest their government, the govt typically responds with an iron fist and/or live ammunation.

Which majority muslim countries are you talking about specifically? If you sort this list of muslim countries by % muslim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country), you basically wind up with a list of the most extreme and repressive countries on this planet... and you wont see any nation on that list with >50% muslim population that has anything resembling "free speech"
Well there's the country with the most Muslim population in the world, Indonesia. And there's Malaysia. Also, Bangladesh. Also Egypt. etc.

[Nanners]

I agree we have ****ed with them for power and money, and that is bad. But they were ass backwards way before that. They are like our version of west virginia hillbillies... a lot of them are extremely low IQ and not fit to be in our modern society. But it's even worse because they live under an extremely barbaric religion. Islam has a lot of great principles to it, but it also has a lot of really rigid savage ones as well.

no doubt, and the fact that they are ass backwards is all the more reason to leave them and their countries alone

IMO its wildly unfair to equate wv hillbillies with muslim extremists... the reddest neck in all of WV is still lightyears more cultured and civilized than the muslim immigrants that are causing problems in Europe

[Nanners]

Well there's the country with the most Muslim population in the world, Indonesia. And there's Malaysia. Also, Bangladesh. Also Egypt. etc.

none of those countries have anything resembling free speech... and while their govts may be more tolerant of certain types of protests than some of the more extreme islamic countries, those countries are still brutally authoritarian compared to western nations.

[iamgine]

none of those countries have anything resembling free speech... and while their govts may be more tolerant of certain types of protests than some of the more extreme islamic countries, those countries are still brutally authoritarian compared to western nations.

I don't know who brainwashed you into believing that, but it's simply untrue.

[Nanners]

I don't know who brainwashed you into believing that, but it's simply untrue.

Wrong.

Every single one of the nations you mentioned has blasphemy laws on their books, and the idea that any nation that locks people up for saying things that hurt the feelings of religious folks can be a nation that has "free speech" is beyond laughable

Before you start accusing people of being brainwashed, maybe you should first do a little bit of basic research so you can have something resembling a clue of what you are talking about

[Nanners]

Why are you bringing up race OP?

you think muslim is a race? :oldlol:

[iamgine]

Wrong.

Every single one of the nations you mentioned has blasphemy laws on their books, and the idea that any nation that locks people up for saying things that hurt the feelings of religious folks can be a nation that has "free speech" is beyond laughable

Before you start accusing people of being brainwashed, maybe you should first do a little bit of basic research so you can have something resembling a clue of what you are talking about

The people of those nations can and do hold demonstration and openly criticize the government. That's clearly something resembling free speech. I don't know how much clearer it could be.

[imdaman99]

I don't agree to anything this lunatic did but play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Nanners]

Religion. Whatever, tied into a particular race. OP would never call out proud boys or his racist conservative companions.

21 white supremacists were arrested by the DOJ this week, not a peep from OP or trump supporters, gee, i wonder why?

But a trump supporter did post a very odd thread about a guy that killed the guy porking his wife. Very interesting when you realize what threads trump supporters are willing to post vs what they wont.

Except race and religion are two very different things. While Islam is a popular religion in Africa and the Middle East, the largest Islamic country on earth is Indonesia... and obviously Black Africans, Middle easterners, and SE Asian Islanders are VERY different races. The word you were looking for is "xenophobia" (although simply reporting the news is not xenophobic, so your attack on OP fails from this angle too)

Anyway, maybe OP will call out the proud boys when they start beheading teachers who dare to show their class a drawing of the proud boy god :oldlol:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Seriously how evil does someone have to be to draw insulting pictures of a man who has benefitted humanity more than anyone else.

What a despicable creature... and he's a teacher.

Insulting a person who taught what this life is about to billions, indirectly.

[Nanners]

imagine being so "insulted" by some drawing of a fictional character that you chop off the head of the rando teacher who drew it

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

(Some of) you people are a bunch of hypocrites.

If someone had insulted the chastity of your girlfriend or your mother or grandmother or insulted your father you would be in arms and pat each other on the back for defending their honor.

What Muhammad (PBUH) did and meant for Muslims is more precious and dearer than ones closest relatives. He's also dead.

So imagine how classless and wicked someone has to be to make cartoons. Juvenile delinquents and toddlers have better grasp on civil manners then the disgusting person who got beheaded.

[Nanners]

(Some of) you people are a bunch of hypocrites.

If someone had insulted the chastity of your girlfriend or your mother or grandmother or insulted your father you would be in arms and pat each other on the back for defending their honor.

What Muhammad (PBUH) did and meant for Muslims is more precious and dearer than ones closest relatives. He's also dead.

So imagine how classless and wicked someone has to be to make cartoons. Juvenile delinquents and toddlers have better grasp on civil manners then the disgusting person who got beheaded.


There is no verbal insult on this planet that I would respond to with violence (and certainly not ****ing beheading), and thats true regardless of who the insult is targeting.

If your feelings are so delicate and unhinged that you think you're justified to end someones life simply because they insulted your dumbass pedophile of a prophet, you should **** off to a repressive hellhole like Saudi Arabia where this sort of backward and medieval behavior of celebrated.

Its rather ironic that you are always talking about how an important aspect of Islam is being in control of your urges and vices... yet you seem to have less control over your emotions than a spoiled toddler.

Are all muslims as mentally weak and fragile as you are?

[iamgine]

(Some of) you people are a bunch of hypocrites.

If someone had insulted the chastity of your girlfriend or your mother or grandmother or insulted your father you would be in arms and pat each other on the back for defending their honor.

What Muhammad (PBUH) did and meant for Muslims is more precious and dearer than ones closest relatives. He's also dead.

So imagine how classless and wicked someone has to be to make cartoons. Juvenile delinquents and toddlers have better grasp on civil manners then the disgusting person who got beheaded.

This is all fine and well. But there are muslims who behead people for it, and there are muslims who just condemn the action with words and maybe even pray for the person. The first kind has no place in civil society. This is why Islamic countries all around the world are taking steps to deradicalized Muslims.

[TheMan]

Christian countries for Christians and Muslim countries for Muslims...quite simple, really.

[TheMan]

There is no verbal insult on this planet that I would respond to with violence (and certainly not ****ing beheading), and thats true regardless of who the insult is targeting.

If your feelings are so delicate and unhinged that you think you're justified to end someones life simply because they insulted your dumbass pedophile of a prophet, you should **** off to a repressive hellhole like Saudi Arabia where this sort of backward and medieval behavior of celebrated.

Its rather ironic that you are always talking about how an important aspect of Islam is being in control of your urges and vices... yet you seem to have less control over your emotions than a spoiled toddler.

Are all muslims as mentally weak and fragile as you are?
:roll:

:applause:

[Long Duck Dong]

I'm not saying the teacher deserved this but IMO teacher's need to stick to teaching and keep out of current day politics and religion unless parent's are paying to send their kids to a private school. Most people don't want teachers influencing kids beyond the academic realm.

I know this teachers asked if the Muslim kids wanted to leave first before showing these photos that are controversial for their religion but the fact that he needed to ask them in the first place says he was diving into a realm with other people's kids that he shouldn't be. Let parents mold children's minds outside of academia. Just shut up and teach.






But a trump supporter did post a very odd thread about a guy that killed the guy porking his wife. Very interesting when you realize what threads trump supporters are willing to post vs what they wont.

Guilty. Just call me out by name. Idk what that has to do with this thread though. Seemed like a good story I came across on James Woods Twitter feed and the guy's writing reminded me of Theo. :confusedshrug:

[tpols]

Seriously how evil does someone have to be to draw insulting pictures of a man who has benefitted humanity more than anyone else.

What a despicable creature... and he's a teacher.

Insulting a person who taught what this life is about to billions, indirectly.

He was just another warlord dude.

The fact that you put so much stock into one person seemingly saving all of mankind and life itself is disturbing.

Like... what?

[Axe]

you think muslim is a race? :oldlol:
:lol

[Axe]

Btw, why does JEFFERSON MONEY usually flock in threads that talk about religion? What's his agenda here?

[rawimpact]

Btw, why does JEFFERSON MONEY usually flock in threads that talk about religion? What's his agenda here?

J$ is a radical Muslim, say what you want about him but I have to give him his respect for atl east being able to defend his viewpoint. Something we can’t say about half the idiots on here in regards to politics religion or anything polarizing.

[SATAN]

Seriously how evil does someone have to be to draw insulting pictures of a man who has benefitted humanity more than anyone else.

What a despicable creature... and he's a teacher.

Insulting a person who taught what this life is about to billions, indirectly.

You saying the murder was justified??

[Facepalm]

(Some of) you people are a bunch of hypocrites.

If someone had insulted the chastity of your girlfriend or your mother or grandmother or insulted your father you would be in arms and pat each other on the back for defending their honor.

What Muhammad (PBUH) did and meant for Muslims is more precious and dearer than ones closest relatives. He's also dead.

So imagine how classless and wicked someone has to be to make cartoons. Juvenile delinquents and toddlers have better grasp on civil manners then the disgusting person who got beheaded.
Damn you sound radicalized. Do you really want to justify the beheading of a school teacher for teaching a lesson about freedom of speech? He could take a shit on a picture of Mohammad and then wipe his ass with pages from the Koran and that still wouldn't be justification for that sadistic murder. You are part of the probem.

[dude77]

this has become so commonplace it's not even big news anymore ... 10 yrs ago this would be a huge story .. as for the pic .. imagine that guy's family seeing that .. up close high res shot of his severed bloody head/face on the pavement .. shii .. hope they never see that

also, not trying to joke but the irony of still having the surgical mask strapped on

edit: just hit me .. he probably had the mask on while they were beheading him because it's below his chin afterwards meaning they pulled it down after they got done

[tomtucker]

I agree on paper... but a huge percentage of those "brainwashed savages" are fleeing failed countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen... nations that have been utterly devastated by western nations via the supposed "war on terror". When you reduce a nation to rubble and make it possible for extremist gangs like ISIS to flourish, people are gonna flee en masse... thats just human nature.



No, they were shitholes already, thanks to a low IQ population and Islam.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Muhammad (PBUH) is actually not dead. He, and other souls live in Barzakh, which is the intermediary realm.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

It's real simple.

You people should have learned this lesson a while ago.

You don't go around insulting people point blank period but ESPECIALLY not The Messenger of God (PBUH). Use your tongue, hands, eyes, and ears for good. It's that simple.

I mean who exactly are you, rawimpact? You've already been told very clearly that marrying young was a practice in old Arabia. People died earlier, people started families earlier. Not only that it was clearly explained to you that the man you insulted married a woman 15 years his senior and was with her and only her for 25 years. And yet you persist on using this horribly disparaging term to a person that is free of the disgusting label you place on him. Have you changed the world for the better, rawimpact? You are insulting a person who strived hard to teach people about God and right from wrong (and much more) and has benefitted mankind more than anyone else in the world, ever. You are insulting a person who was never in any way, shape or form driven by lust---but only driven by the loftiest pursuit and loftiest morals. What's wrong with you? If you proceed, I warn you clearly that you will be punished in ways that makes things like nuclear weapons look like child's play.

I repeat, rawimpact. Everything you own. Your wife, dogs, your life, your wealth, your life can be snatched away from you in an instant. You need to realize you are not in control and you need to change. The fact that a tiny little organism like a coronavirus, which is naught but a creation terrorized all of humanity and put a dent on the economy and mankind's life like that is just an infinitesmally tiny sample of His Power.

You think that banning Muslims and kicking them out will protect you from future beheadings? If it's not beheading's it's gonna be punishment of a different type and it can not be averted.
And you can build high towers, wear suits of armor, have moats with gators around them but still death and punishment will reach you. France is digging it's own grave with it's despicable trespassing and transgression of free speech.

The only thing you can do is sincerely, wholly, earnestly from the bottom of your heart to pray for forgiveness. That's literally the only solution. And I say this earnestly for your welfare. I promise you that you will feel much more peace and contentment from inside after doing this

[TheMan]

It's real simple.

You people should have learned this lesson a while ago.

You don't go around insulting people point blank period but ESPECIALLY not The Messenger of God (PBUH). Use your tongue, hands, eyes, and ears for good. It's that simple.

I mean who exactly are you, rawimpact? You've already been told very clearly that marrying young was a practice in old Arabia. People died earlier, people started families earlier. Not only that it was clearly explained to you that the man you insulted married a woman 15 years his senior and was with her and only her for 25 years. And yet you persist on using this horribly disparaging term to a person that is free of the disgusting label you place on him. Have you changed the world for the better, rawimpact? You are insulting a person who strived hard to teach people about God and right from wrong (and much more) and has benefitted mankind more than anyone else in the world, ever. You are insulting a person who was never in any way, shape or form driven by lust---but only driven by the loftiest pursuit and loftiest morals. What's wrong with you? If you proceed, I warn you clearly that you will be punished in ways that makes things like nuclear weapons look like child's play.

I repeat, rawimpact. Everything you own. Your wife, dogs, your life, your wealth, your life can be snatched away from you in an instant. You need to realize you are not in control and you need to change. The fact that a tiny little organism like a coronavirus, which is naught but a creation terrorized all of humanity and put a dent on the economy and mankind's life like that is just an infinitesmally tiny sample of His Power.

You think that banning Muslims and kicking them out will protect you from future beheadings? If it's not beheading's it's gonna be punishment of a different type and it can not be averted.
And you can build high towers, wear suits of armor, have moats with gators around them but still death and punishment will reach you. France is digging it's own grave with it's despicable trespassing and transgression of free speech.

The only thing you can do is sincerely, wholly, earnestly from the bottom of your heart to pray for forgiveness. That's literally the only solution. And I say this earnestly for your welfare. I promise you that you will feel much more peace and contentment from inside after doing this
Lol, we aren't in medieval times anymore...explains how backwards you Muslims are though. And I agree about France and most of Europe digging their own graves if they don't stop the madness of allowing millions of backwards low IQ Islamic monkees to run amok in their once proud nations.

Christians in Christian nations and Muslims in Muslim nations...

[iamgine]

It's real simple.

You people should have learned this lesson a while ago.

You don't go around insulting people point blank period but ESPECIALLY not The Messenger of God (PBUH). Use your tongue, hands, eyes, and ears for good. It's that simple.

I mean who exactly are you, rawimpact? You've already been told very clearly that marrying young was a practice in old Arabia. People died earlier, people started families earlier. Not only that it was clearly explained to you that the man you insulted married a woman 15 years his senior and was with her and only her for 25 years. And yet you persist on using this horribly disparaging term to a person that is free of the disgusting label you place on him. Have you changed the world for the better, rawimpact? You are insulting a person who strived hard to teach people about God and right from wrong (and much more) and has benefitted mankind more than anyone else in the world, ever. You are insulting a person who was never in any way, shape or form driven by lust---but only driven by the loftiest pursuit and loftiest morals. What's wrong with you? If you proceed, I warn you clearly that you will be punished in ways that makes things like nuclear weapons look like child's play.

I repeat, rawimpact. Everything you own. Your wife, dogs, your life, your wealth, your life can be snatched away from you in an instant. You need to realize you are not in control and you need to change. The fact that a tiny little organism like a coronavirus, which is naught but a creation terrorized all of humanity and put a dent on the economy and mankind's life like that is just an infinitesmally tiny sample of His Power.

You think that banning Muslims and kicking them out will protect you from future beheadings? If it's not beheading's it's gonna be punishment of a different type and it can not be averted.
And you can build high towers, wear suits of armor, have moats with gators around them but still death and punishment will reach you. France is digging it's own grave with it's despicable trespassing and transgression of free speech.

The only thing you can do is sincerely, wholly, earnestly from the bottom of your heart to pray for forgiveness. That's literally the only solution. And I say this earnestly for your welfare. I promise you that you will feel much more peace and contentment from inside after doing this
This level of fanatism is actually pretty dangerous. Because it fails to account that someone else has a right to think that Muhammad is nothing special or even a pedophile. It would be akin to if a Muslim says Jesus is not god but just one of God's messenger and he is beheaded for it by Christians.

[iamgine]

Lol, we aren't in medieval times anymore...explains how backwards you Muslims are though. And I agree about France and most of Europe digging their own graves if they don't stop the madness of allowing millions of backwards low IQ Islamic monkees to run amok in their once proud nations.

Christians in Christian nations and Muslims in Muslim nations...
Just like most Christians are not the same with Westboro Baptist Church, a lot of Muslims are actually peaceful and won't kill anyone, even if you insult Muhammad in front of them.

[rawimpact]

It's real simple.

You people should have learned this lesson a while ago.

You don't go around insulting people point blank period but ESPECIALLY not The Messenger of God (PBUH). Use your tongue, hands, eyes, and ears for good. It's that simple.

I mean who exactly are you, rawimpact? You've already been told very clearly that marrying young was a practice in old Arabia. People died earlier, people started families earlier. Not only that it was clearly explained to you that the man you insulted married a woman 15 years his senior and was with her and only her for 25 years. And yet you persist on using this horribly disparaging term to a person that is free of the disgusting label you place on him. Have you changed the world for the better, rawimpact? You are insulting a person who strived hard to teach people about God and right from wrong (and much more) and has benefitted mankind more than anyone else in the world, ever. You are insulting a person who was never in any way, shape or form driven by lust---but only driven by the loftiest pursuit and loftiest morals. What's wrong with you? If you proceed, I warn you clearly that you will be punished in ways that makes things like nuclear weapons look like child's play.

I repeat, rawimpact. Everything you own. Your wife, dogs, your life, your wealth, your life can be snatched away from you in an instant. You need to realize you are not in control and you need to change. The fact that a tiny little organism like a coronavirus, which is naught but a creation terrorized all of humanity and put a dent on the economy and mankind's life like that is just an infinitesmally tiny sample of His Power.

You think that banning Muslims and kicking them out will protect you from future beheadings? If it's not beheading's it's gonna be punishment of a different type and it can not be averted.
And you can build high towers, wear suits of armor, have moats with gators around them but still death and punishment will reach you. France is digging it's own grave with it's despicable trespassing and transgression of free speech.

The only thing you can do is sincerely, wholly, earnestly from the bottom of your heart to pray for forgiveness. That's literally the only solution. And I say this earnestly for your welfare. I promise you that you will feel much more peace and contentment from inside after doing this

I have no idea how to respond to this. Honestly I'd make of an effort if I thought I had a chance of changing your radical position on things but I don't.

You should at least realize that there's the chance of religion itself being completely bullshit/made up and that you may be living your life and making decisions based on that bullshit. Also, people who are not considered to be religious could be good people. In other words, it does not take religion to make someone warm-hearted.

That said I also understand that there's a chance that Islam or Christianity could be true and I may not be living in accordance to the scripture. That is a decision I myself have taken... it's something I will hold myself accountable for on judgement day. It is not my position to hold anyone else accountable for their decision. Never would I feel the need to decapitate anyone because of a difference of opinion or non-life threatening action.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

This level of fanatism is actually pretty dangerous. Because it fails to account that someone else has a right to think that Muhammad is nothing special or even a pedophile. It would be akin to if a Muslim says Jesus is not god but just one of God's messenger and he is beheaded for it by Christians.

That is literally the stupidest analogy I've ever heard in my life. I can't believe you actually buy into the drivel you just spewed.

People can think what they want---but it has no merit if it's not based on the Truth.

So what is the Truth? How does one discern between true and false beliefs?

[Patrick Chewing]

I never ignore these stories. They only add fuel to the fire that burns inside of me. The fire to eradicate these devil-worshipping demons off the face of the Earth.

[rawimpact]

That is literally the stupidest analogy I've ever heard in my life. I can't believe you actually buy into the drivel you just spewed.

People can think what they want---but it has no merit if it's not based on the Truth.

So what is the Truth? How does one discern between true and false beliefs?

You don't. That's why a common trait amongst the most livable countries is freedom of religion. Religion is not forced on anyone.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

And by the way, rawimpact.
You are attributing France's financial prosperity to its policies? That's ridiculous.
Freedom of speech has no bearing or parallel with a prosperous nation. That's correlation not causation. Countries like Brunei and Singapore do well. Even France probably had stricter policies in the past where you couldn't insult kings. Kingdoms of previous eras as well.

iamgine, let me rephrase what was previously stated.
What are the correct beliefs in relation to the people discussed earlier?
Do you have in-depth knowledge of both of their lives?
Do you know for a certain fact that Jesus is God or the son of God? Did he ever, personally, claim such? Or is it merely a fabrication invented by people later?

[rawimpact]

And by the way, rawimpact.
You are attributing France's financial prosperity to its policies? That's ridiculous.
Freedom of speech has no bearing or parallel with a prosperous nation. That's correlation not causation. Countries like Brunei and Singapore do well. Even France probably had stricter policies in the past where you couldn't insult kings. Kingdoms of previous eras as well.

iamgine, let me rephrase what was previously stated.
What are the correct beliefs in relation to the people discussed earlier?
Do you have in-depth knowledge of both of their lives?
Do you know for a certain fact that Jesus is God or the son of God? Did he ever, personally, claim such? Or is it merely a fabrication invented by people later?

No, I am looking at the world's top countries in terms of quality of life and merely telling you that the majority have things like FREEDOM in common. Freedom of expression is generally one. Freedom of speech is generally another.

Now if we look at some of the countries with WORST quality of life ratings you see a lot of religion-based law.

Obviously this is a correlation, not causation... but it is worth mentioning.

To address your latter point, I don't know. I don't know if Allahu is real. I don't know if Jesus is real let alone god or son of god. I don't live my life based on ANY scripture. There is not enough evidence out there to show any of this or afterlife is real. Doesnt mean it doesnt exist...

I've been answering some of your questions how about you answer some of mine.

Was the beheading in France (the one posted in OP) justified?
Should the US move towards Sharia's Law?


Thanks, I'll be back here after lunch at some point.

[iamgine]

iamgine, let me rephrase what was previously stated.
What are the correct beliefs in relation to the people discussed earlier?
Do you have in-depth knowledge of both of their lives?
Do you know for a certain fact that Jesus is God or the son of God? Did he ever, personally, claim such? Or is it merely a fabrication invented by people later?
It is called belief. There is no way to prove it.

I can't believe I have to explain this.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

It is called belief. There is no way to prove it.

I can't believe I have to explain this.

Refer back to the Scriptures...

[iamgine]

Refer back to the Scriptures...

Scripture is not proof.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I never ignore these stories. They only add fuel to the fire that burns inside of me. The fire to eradicate these devil-worshipping demons off the face of the Earth.

That's how you really feel, Pat?

[Patrick Chewing]

That's how you really feel, Pat?

Let's meet in person.

[rawimpact]

Yeah I didn't think J$ would respond. Probably for the better considering we all know where he stands on the subject.

This is a radicalized muslim living in the US folks.

[SATAN]

I sent an anonymous tip to the FBI about him.

[Nanners]

It's real simple.

You people should have learned this lesson a while ago.

You don't go around insulting people point blank period but ESPECIALLY not The Messenger of God (PBUH). Use your tongue, hands, eyes, and ears for good. It's that simple.

I mean who exactly are you, rawimpact? You've already been told very clearly that marrying young was a practice in old Arabia. People died earlier, people started families earlier. Not only that it was clearly explained to you that the man you insulted married a woman 15 years his senior and was with her and only her for 25 years. And yet you persist on using this horribly disparaging term to a person that is free of the disgusting label you place on him. Have you changed the world for the better, rawimpact? You are insulting a person who strived hard to teach people about God and right from wrong (and much more) and has benefitted mankind more than anyone else in the world, ever. You are insulting a person who was never in any way, shape or form driven by lust---but only driven by the loftiest pursuit and loftiest morals. What's wrong with you? If you proceed, I warn you clearly that you will be punished in ways that makes things like nuclear weapons look like child's play.

I repeat, rawimpact. Everything you own. Your wife, dogs, your life, your wealth, your life can be snatched away from you in an instant. You need to realize you are not in control and you need to change. The fact that a tiny little organism like a coronavirus, which is naught but a creation terrorized all of humanity and put a dent on the economy and mankind's life like that is just an infinitesmally tiny sample of His Power.

You think that banning Muslims and kicking them out will protect you from future beheadings? If it's not beheading's it's gonna be punishment of a different type and it can not be averted.
And you can build high towers, wear suits of armor, have moats with gators around them but still death and punishment will reach you. France is digging it's own grave with it's despicable trespassing and transgression of free speech.

The only thing you can do is sincerely, wholly, earnestly from the bottom of your heart to pray for forgiveness. That's literally the only solution. And I say this earnestly for your welfare. I promise you that you will feel much more peace and contentment from inside after doing this

By some metrics J$ is an intelligent human being, but this might be the dumbest shit I have ever read on this website (and keep in mind this is a website where jabronies like godzuki and bruinlove have spent years digging down into the bedrock of stupidity in order to put the bar for dumbest post hundreds of meters below the typical ground level of dumb)

The level of insanity it takes to come here and defend an unhinged lunatic who cut off a schoolteachers head over a cartoon, and then follow that up by trying to lecture people about using your tounge, hands, eyes and ears for good, is truly impressive (or scary).

What the **** have you or your idiotic religion done to change the world for good J$? How many hundreds of years has it been since the last time an Islamic scientist (a total oxymoron in the modern world) made a meaningful discovery or contribution to society? When was the last time that an islamic nation helped to improve the lives of any people who dont buy into your insane belief system?

No shit anyones life can be snatched away in an instant, but thats not because "god" as described by your pedophile prophet is directing the course of society... life can be snatched away because thats just how life works. Its not like your stupid religion is protecting your ignorant and intolerant ass from having everything snatched away at any moment, you are just as vulnerable as everyone else. If Allah has any interest in protecting his followers, why does he allow the blasphemous western world to turn countries like Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria into wastelands of horror and rubble?

Banning people who think that its appropriate to behead someone over a cartoon will absolutely help prevent future beheadings. In case you didnt notice, christian extremists arent going around beheading people who hurt their feelings, they arent even beheading people like abortion doctors... the only time you see a beheading in the western world is when theres a serial killer on the loose or when a weak-minded muslim crybaby has their delicate feelings hurt by a ****ing cartoon.

Anyway, I am going to say a prayer tonight, but not for forgiveness for myself. I am going to pray that the simulators forgive you for embracing a medieval ideology of ignorance and intolerance.

[Patrick Chewing]

By some metrics J$ is an intelligent human being, but this might be the dumbest shit I have ever read on this website (and keep in mind this is a website where jabronies like godzuki and bruinlove have spent years digging down into the bedrock of stupidity in order to put the bar for dumbest post hundreds of meters below the typical ground level of dumb)

The level of insanity it takes to come here and defend an unhinged lunatic who cut off a schoolteachers head over a cartoon, and then follow that up by trying to lecture people about using your tounge, hands, eyes and ears for good, is truly impressive (or scary).

What the **** have you or your idiotic religion done to change the world for good J$? How many hundreds of years has it been since the last time an Islamic scientist (a total oxymoron in the modern world) made a meaningful discovery or contribution to society? When was the last time that an islamic nation helped to improve the lives of any people who dont buy into your insane belief system?

No shit anyones life can be snatched away in an instant, but thats not because "god" as described by your pedophile prophet is directing the course of society... life can be snatched away because thats just how life works. Its not like your stupid religion is protecting your ignorant and intolerant ass from having everything snatched away at any moment, you are just as vulnerable as everyone else. If Allah has any interest in protecting his followers, why does he allow the blasphemous western world to turn countries like Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria into wastelands of horror and rubble?

Banning people who think that its appropriate to behead someone over a cartoon will absolutely help prevent future beheadings. In case you didnt notice, christian extremists arent going around beheading people who hurt their feelings, they arent even beheading people like abortion doctors... the only time you see a beheading in the western world is when theres a serial killer on the loose or when a weak-minded muslim crybaby has their delicate feelings hurt by a ****ing cartoon.

Anyway, I am going to say a prayer tonight, but not for forgiveness for myself. I am going to pray that the simulators forgive you for embracing a medieval ideology of ignorance and intolerance.

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