i hear about brans 'longevity' whatever that means lol ok lets just take the best 10

[And1AllDay]

no more longevity for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i was so kind by taking out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is basically comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything

stats for 10 best years taken based from most pts scored

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from t both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals

[Mr. Woke]

3ball's alternate is up and running I see.

[And1AllDay]

stop the presses, bran is not winning from 'longevity' he is winning from...winning more playoff series

if we erase mikes 3 worst years (all his 1-9 no papa phil or daddy pippen years) and take his 10 best years! mikes 10 best! against bran's 10 best we get this results

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143


mike is done

[dankok8]

Lebron played way more games... Post the averages for a 10-year peak. Totals don't make someone the GOAT.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lebron played way more games... Post the averages for a 10-year peak. Totals don't make someone the GOAT.

Because he won MORE.

The more you win, the more you play. That's how the playoffs are designed.

Lebron won far more than Jordan

[dankok8]

Because he won MORE.

The more you win, the more you play. That's how the playoffs are designed.

Lebron won far more than Jordan

Jordan has a 6-4 edge in titles.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Jordan has a 6-4 edge in titles.

Russell has an 11-6 edge over Jordan.

[MadDog]

Says he wont use "longevity" but posts cumulative totals, and more games played for LeBron :oldlol: You really thought this one through, OP.

[dankok8]

Russell has an 11-6 edge over Jordan.

Sure and Russell has a better GOAT case than Lebron. As does Jordan. As does Kareem. With 4 titles, Lebron isn't gonna be the GOAT unless he's a way better player than those guys and he obviously isn't.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Sure and Russell has a better GOAT case than Lebron. As does Jordan. As does Kareem. With 4 titles, Lebron isn't gonna be the GOAT unless he's a way better player than those guys and he obviously isn't.

You're obviously a casual fan.

Stick to tennis

[Micku]

Because he won MORE.

The more you win, the more you play. That's how the playoffs are designed.

Lebron won far more than Jordan


Hahaha!

Well, AI played more games in 01 than Shaq and Kobe.

AI played 22 games.

Shaq and Kobe played 16 games.

Shaq and Kobe won the chip. It's not that AI won more, it's that he lost more and have the opportunity to play more games.

MJ only had 20 games or more twice in his playoff career. Both years he went game 7s and the years he won the chip. Lebron went to 20 games more or more 9 times in the playoffs. In all the chips that Lebron won, he went pass 20 games for each one.

MJ had 17 games in 91
22 games in 92
19 games in 93
18 games in 96
19 games in 97
21 games in 98.


So, it's inflated. With that said, LeBron played more finals. So, obviously he'll have more games.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Hahaha!

Well, AI played more games in 01 than Shaq and Kobe.

AI played 22 games.

Shaq and Kobe played 16 games.

Shaq and Kobe won the chip. It's not that AI won more, it's that he lost more and have the opportunity to play more games.

MJ only had 20 games or more twice in his playoff career. Both years he went game 7s and the years he won the chip. Lebron went to 20 games more or more 9 times in the playoffs. In all the chips that Lebron won, he went pass 20 games for each one.

MJ had 17 games in 91
22 games in 92
19 games in 93
18 games in 96
19 games in 97
21 games in 98.


So, it's inflated. With that said, LeBron played more finals. So, obviously he'll have more games.

TLDR: LeBron played more finals, so he won more

I agree

Jordan doesn't get a cookie for only making 6 finals, sorry

[Shooter]

How does anyone not get it???? Wow does it need to be explained?

[Shooter]

Lebron played way more games... Post the averages for a 10-year peak. Totals don't make someone the GOAT.

Longevity is not "played more games" :lol So now you're penalizing LeBron for making more Finals?

:roll: OP gottem shook! Nice call OP :cheers: These casual fans just don't get it

[Shooter]

Imagine erasing Mikes 3 worst playyoff runs and his career still doesn't compare to Lebron's

:roll: :roll:

I mean shit...this is worse than comparing their careers out right. This is undeniably more embarrassing. This is disrespectful at this point :lol

[dankok8]

The level of analysis on these forums has gotten so poor that I feel no satisfaction debating on here anymore. You can't say anything against Lebron (who I rank #4 all time) without getting called a hater. There used to be more people on here who actually used to make legit arguments for something not make threads like "1-9 without Pippen" and on the other side of the coin "6-0 in the Finals". Irrational stans have become the norm instead of getting laughed at.

[Shooter]

The level of analysis on these forums has gotten so poor that I feel no satisfaction debating on here anymore. You can't say anything against Lebron (who I rank #4 all time) without getting called a hater. There used to be more people on here who actually used to make legit arguments for something not make threads like "1-9 without Pippen" and on the other side of the coin "6-0 in the Finals". Irrational stans have become the norm instead of getting laughed at.

:lol So no more crying longevity right? Hopefully you learned something for once...

[MadDog]

The level of analysis on these forums has gotten so poor that I feel no satisfaction debating on here anymore. You can't say anything against Lebron (who I rank #4 all time) without getting called a hater. There used to be more people on here who actually used to make legit arguments for something not make threads like "1-9 without Pippen" and on the other side of the coin "6-0 in the Finals". Irrational stans have become the norm instead of getting laughed at.

Its like shooting fish in a barrel :oldlol: Jordan has more titles, more scoring titles, more mvps, more fmvps, better per game stats and MULTIPLE advanced stats in his favor. LeBron fans will point out longevity, and then backtrack after realizing everyone today is dropping big numbers.

[Roundball_Rock]

Lebron played way more games... Post the averages for a 10-year peak. Totals don't make someone the GOAT.

It is hard to do a straight up prime vs. prime comp because MJ retired in the middle of his prime. If you use MJ 1987-1998, a time span he was a MVP candidate the entire time you get 830 games. For LeBron another problem is when do you start and end the clock? If you use 2006-2016 that is 828 games. To include KAJ, we can use his full prime of 1970-1980 (slightly more games--855). I am rounding.

Points: MJ 26,600; KAJ 24,200; LeBron 23,000
Rebounds: KAJ 12,300; LeBron 6,000; MJ 5,200
Assists: LeBron 5,800; MJ 4,500; KAJ 3,800

Averages: MJ 32/6/5, LeBron 28/7/7, KAJ 28/14/5

Which is better? YMMV. To me KAJ's line is the most impressive, especially since he is so close in assists despite being a center.

[Shooter]

It is hard to do a straight up prime vs. prime comp because MJ retired in the middle of his prime. If you use MJ 1987-1998, a time span he was a MVP candidate the entire time you get 830 games. For LeBron another problem is when do you start and end the clock? If you use 2006-2016 that is 828 games. To include KAJ, we can use his full prime of 1970-1980 (slightly more games--855). I am rounding.

Points: MJ 26,600; KAJ 24,200; LeBron 23,000
Rebounds: KAJ 12,300; LeBron 6,000; MJ 5,200
Assists: LeBron 5,800; MJ 4,500; KAJ 3,800

Averages: MJ 32/6/5, LeBron 28/7/7, KAJ 28/14/5

Which is better? YMMV. To me KAJ's line is the most impressive, especially since he is so close in assists despite being a center.

LeBron has 28/7/7 10-year or 27-8-8

Either way, all 3 are pretty solid

[And1AllDay]

is there no one else?

[And1AllDay]

no more anti 'longevity' for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i took out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything more (mike doesnt)

stats for 10 best years

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from t both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals

[Baller789]

no more anti 'longevity' for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i took out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything more (mike doesnt)

stats for 10 best years

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from t both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals
Tell them brotha!

You tell em that reaching the finals is actually more valuable than winning it.

Go get em!

[Nikola_]

Retiredan >>>>>> LeNgevity

[Baller789]

Imagine erasing Mikes 3 worst playyoff runs and his career still doesn't compare to Lebron's

:roll: :roll:

I mean shit...this is worse than comparing their careers out right. This is undeniably more embarrassing. This is disrespectful at this point :lol
Yep. They don't compare. One won more championships.

[8Ball]

He is a better player than Jordan. More durable. Much more longevity than Jordan.

[Baller789]

He is a better player than Jordan. More durable. Much more longevity than Jordan.
Hes a better player because he's more durable? Better longevity?

He prolly has more NBA championships too right?

[8Ball]

Are you talking Bill Russel? Because Russel has more than Jordan.

So does Robert Horry.

[8Ball]

LeBron is just a better basketball player.

More basketball IQ
Better passer
Better rebounder
Bigger, taller, stronger
More versatile
More durable

Give me the better player every time.

[Baller789]

LeBron is just a better basketball player.

More basketball IQ
Better passer
Better rebounder
Bigger, taller, stronger
More versatile
More durable

Give me the better player every time.
You want the greatest Eastern Conference player eva? Ok got it!

[Shooter]

Tell them brotha!

You tell em that reaching the finals is actually more valuable than winning it.

Go get em!

Nah 1st rd exits are better :lol :lol

Real winners lose early

[Baller789]

Nah 1st rd exits are better :lol :lol

Real winners lose early

Your right.

Last year he missed the playoffs. Losing early.

Thats why hes a real winner. Go it!

[Bronbron23]

no more longevity for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i was so kind by taking out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is basically comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything

stats for 10 best years taken based from most pts scored

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from t both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals

Wow you can tell your young and a product of this wack participation generation. Its still 4 to 6 dude. 1000 runner ups isnt worth 1 chip. You do know that right?

[And1AllDay]

Wow you can tell your young and a product of this wack participation generation. Its still 4 to 6 dude. 1000 runner ups isnt worth 1 chip. You do know that right?

bran has better stats

fax

[And1AllDay]

no more anti 'longevity' for the mike fans lets just use the playoff stats for 10 best years of both. i took out mikes three 1st round whoopsies when daddy pippen and papa phil was not there to save him and boost him into 2nd round. this is comparing mikes 10 best years with brans. lets see if he wins anything more (mike doesnt)

stats for 10 best years

pts
bran, 5911
mike, 5632

ast
bran, 1510
mike, 959

reb
bran, 1611
mike, 1089

stls
bran, 362
mike, 352

blks
bran, 192
mike, 143

even if i erase mikes blemish whoopsies from his 1-9 and only take the 10 best playoff runs from t both of them he still loses

its not longevity. its called goat consistency. its called advancing to finals gets you better stats.

10 finals > 6 finals

guys?

[TheGoatest]

You want the greatest Eastern Conference player eva? Ok got it!

:oldlol:

LeBron won championship/Finals MVP in both conferences

[Spurs m8]

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