Lebron and Duncan were outplayed by their own position

[HBK_Kliq_2]

LeBron and Tim Duncan both got outplayed by their own position

Duncan got shut down by Malone in 2004 playoffs. Duncan got outplayed by Dirk in 2006 playoffs.

LeBron got shut down by Kawhi in 2014 playoffs. LeBron got outplayed by Durant in 2017 or 2018 finals.

That should be an automatic disqualification from GOAT status. You can't get outplayed or shut down by another all time great that plays your own position.

[Horatio33]

Kawhit melting down in the playoffs has broken your brain. Now get back to fingering your blow up sex doll and get back on your medicine.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhit melting down in the playoffs has broken your brain. Now get back to fingering your blow up sex doll and get back on your medicine.

That's an empty arena that made Tyler Herro look like a superstar, nobody gives a shit.

[dbugz]

got beaten by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in his prime and with superstar on his side, there's no coming back from that.

[AlternativeAcc.]

got beaten by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in his prime and with superstar on his side, there's no coming back from that.

Kobe got swept by them, and then failed with a super team the very next year

And then had the worst Farwell tour of all time a few years later


No need to pile on though, let him rest

[HBK_Kliq_2]

got beaten by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in his prime and with superstar on his side, there's no coming back from that.

Exactly. 5 times worse then losing in a stupid bubble. Kawhi was also 1st best player by GmSc, LeBron was 3rd best and outscored by Jason terry hahhaha

As far as Duncan, he gets his ass kicked every time he faces a true superstar like Dirk in 06 or Kobe in 08.

[2ball]

Terry swept Kobe and Pierce dispatches Kobe in 6 games in 07/08 thoughts?

[dbugz]

libron 10th
Kobe 11th

I give you that

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kobe got swept by them, and then failed with a super team the very next year

And then had the worst Farwell tour of all time a few years later


No need to pile on though, let him rest

Wade had 27PPG, 61% TS and a 22.7 GmSc. Looking like finals MVP ALPHA wade.

Pau Gasol was crying about Shannon Brown sticking it to his wife and had 12PPG, 48% TS and 11.4 GmSc. Can you say beta? Hahaha

Big differences in co stars.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Terry swept Kobe and Pierce dispatches Kobe in 6 games in 07/08 thoughts?

Terry lost to Wade in 2006 and Wade had grandpa gimp Shaq hahahah

[Roundball_Rock]

What superstar did MJ ever face at his own position, though? Drexler is the only one and he was on a bum knee. He never faced a KD-level player at his position (which would be someone like Jerry West, not a top 40 all-time player like Drexler).

[HBK_Kliq_2]

What superstar did MJ ever face at his own position, though? Drexler is the only one and he was on a bum knee. He never faced a KD-level player at his position (which would be someone like Jerry West, not a top 40 all-time player like Drexler).

That's true. Magic was a point guard and Drexler was jimmy butler. Durant outplaying LeBron in 2018 finals is also like what Larry Bird did to Jordan in 1987 playoffs. Bird/Durant had stacked teams.

Duncan lost to Kobe and Dirk on 1 man teams though, pretty sad.

[Horatio33]

That's true. Magic was a point guard and Drexler was jimmy butler. Durant outplaying LeBron in 2018 finals is also like what Larry Bird did to Jordan in 1987 playoffs. Bird/Durant had stacked teams.

Duncan lost to Kobe and Dirk on 1 man teams though, pretty sad.

Duncan beat Kobe AND Shaq in 2003 as a one man team.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Duncan beat Kobe AND Shaq in 2003 as a one man team.

He's 8-18 against Kobe/Phil, variance just kicked in that one lucky year. 2004 he lost again.

[Smoke117]

Duncan will always be greater than Kawhit. Get over it.

[Phoenix]

Kawhi got outplayed by 7'1 Brian Windhorst soooo....

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi got outplayed by 7'1 Brian Windhorst soooo....

Not his position and in bubble. Pointless post, that's starting to become a trend with you.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Duncan will always be greater than Kawhit. Get over it.

Better at being a dork and getting cheated on by his wife maybe.

[Phoenix]

Not his position and in bubble. Pointless post, that's starting to become a trend with you.

You make 21 pointless posts a day. You dont warrant serious replies.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You make 21 pointless posts a day. You dont warrant serious replies.

5-7 in finals vs kawhi. Did you see my point there.

[Phoenix]

5-7 in finals vs kawhi. Did you see my point there.

Lost to 7'1 Windhorst. Did you see my point there.

[RRR3]

I can’t think of a single poster who got more embarrassed in the playoffs than HBK_Brick. My goodness. He’s still stumbling around dazed from the beating he took.

[HylianNightmare]

got beaten by Jason Terry and JJ Barea in his prime and with superstar on his side, there's no coming back from that.

That's when I knew

[Phoenix]

I can’t think of a single poster who got more embarrassed in the playoffs than HBK_Brick. My goodness. He’s still stumbling around dazed from the beating he took.

Voted the number one jizzrag on ISH for 2020. Wears it on his sleeve, as well as his face.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lost to 7'1 Windhorst. Did you see my point there.

99% of all time greats never played in the bubble, never had a month to prepare for playoffs. You lose.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I can’t think of a single poster who got more embarrassed in the playoffs than HBK_Brick. My goodness. He’s still stumbling around dazed from the beating he took.

I have the GOAT finals MVPS, stopping two different 3peats. A piece of shit prison bubble doesn't change that.

[Phoenix]

99% of all time greats never played in the bubble, never had a month to prepare for playoffs. You lose.

99% of all time greats wouldn't lose to 7'1 Windhorst regardless of where they played. Kawhi is the 1%. Congrats.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

99% of all time greats wouldn't lose to 7'1 Windhorst regardless of where they played. Kawhi is the 1%. Congrats.

And where's your evidence? Another pointless post, congratulations. How many times am I going to have to lecture your rotton brain.

[light]

LeBron and Tim Duncan both got outplayed by their own position

Duncan got shut down by Malone in 2004 playoffs. Duncan got outplayed by Dirk in 2006 playoffs.

LeBron got shut down by Kawhi in 2014 playoffs. LeBron got outplayed by Durant in 2017 or 2018 finals.

That should be an automatic disqualification from GOAT status. You can't get outplayed or shut down by another all time great that plays your own position.

Most people think LeBron is the GOAT so you're just wrong about what disqualifies someone and what doesn't, so there is no issue here.

Besides, Kawhi didn't shut anyone down and Durant is not capable of outplaying LeBron.

LeBron 2014 Finals: 28.2 points, 4.0 assists, 7.8 rebounds, .571 FG%
LeBron 2017 Finals: 33.6 points, 10.0 assists, 12.0 rebounds, .564 FG%
LeBron 2018 Finals: 34.0 points, 10.0 assists, 8.5 rebounds, .527 FG%

[Phoenix]

And where's your evidence? Another pointless post, congratulations. How many times am I going to have to lecture your rotton brain.

6/22. 1/11 in the 2nd half. Got outplayed not only by a 7'1 Brian Windhorst but a third player player who hasnt even made the allstar team yet. Where does it hurt Bukkake boi?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Most people think LeBron is the GOAT so you're just wrong about what disqualifies someone and what doesn't, so there is no issue here.

Besides, Kawhi didn't shut anyone down and Durant is not capable of outplaying LeBron.

LeBron 2014 Finals: 28.2 points, 4.0 assists, 7.8 rebounds, .571 FG%
LeBron 2017 Finals: 33.6 points, 10.0 assists, 12.0 rebounds, .564 FG%
LeBron 2018 Finals: 34.0 points, 10.0 assists, 8.5 rebounds, .527 FG%

You got your ass kicked by 20 points every game and padded your stats, in series vs kawhi in 2014 and Durant in 2018. LeBron was passive when defended by kawhi and lost the series easily.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

6/22. 1/11 in the 2nd half. Got outplayed not only by a 7'1 Brian Windhorst but a third player player who hasnt even made the allstar team yet. Where does it hurt Bukkake boi?

Kawhi led all players in GmSc. Stop typing, you're hurting everybody's brain.

[Phoenix]

Kawhi led all players in GmSc. Stop typing, you're hurting everybody's brain.

And led his team to a 2nd round exit. :applause:

[Dbrog]

The delusional meltdown is real :lol

Someone put OP out of his misery

[HBK_Kliq_2]

And led his team to a 2nd round exit. :applause:

LeBron led his team to a 2nd tour exit in 2010 and that wasn't even in the bubble

[Hey Yo]

Wade had 27PPG, 61% TS and a 22.7 GmSc. Looking like finals MVP ALPHA wade.

Pau Gasol was crying about Shannon Brown sticking it to his wife and had 12PPG, 48% TS and 11.4 GmSc. Can you say beta? Hahaha

Big differences in co stars.
Why no me mention of Wade's shitty defense that allowed Terry to go off?

[Smoke117]

Kawhi led all players in GmSc. Stop typing, you're hurting everybody's brain.

Kawhit also choked away a 3-1 lead against an inferior team.

[Smoke117]

Why no me mention of Wade's shitty defense that allowed Terry to go off?

Yeah, I guess that's why Wade had an 108drating to your hero LeBron's 110, huh? If you want to say Wade was playing poor defense then your crush was even worse. Moron.

[Hey Yo]

Yeah, I guess that's why Wade had an 108drating to your hero LeBron's 110, huh? If you want to say Wade was playing poor defense then your crush was even worse. Moron.

So what's that have to do with Wade letting Terry go off?

[Smoke117]

So what's that have to do with Wade letting Terry go off?

Wade barely even defended Terry in that series to begin with. Also, even if he was, he was actually expending a lot of energy offensively so it could be forgiven. What the **** was your hero doing offensively for his defense to be so putrid? Exactly. And Don't respond to this. I'm already sick of you.

[Hey Yo]

Wade barely even defended Terry in that series to begin with. Also, even if he was, he was actually expending a lot of energy offensively so it could be forgiven. What the **** was your hero doing offensively for his defense to be so putrid? Exactly. And Don't respond to this. I'm already sick of you.
So who guarded Terry the majority of his 33mins per game, Miami's other starting SG?

So you're sick of me cause I stated a fact that Wade let Terry go off by playing shitty defense on him?

[StrongLurk]

OP is loser no matter how many posts he makes...reality is what it is.

[MadDog]

LeBron's lost FMVP to his direct competition HOW many times now? I've lost track, but know he holds the record for that :oldlol:

[AlternativeAcc.]

LeBron's lost FMVP to his direct competition HOW many times now? I've lost track, but know he holds the record for that :oldlol:

To HOFers on stacked teams who had 1/10th the burden lebron had, while being outplayed by lebron anyways?

Another casual fan argument lol, you can't hang

[MadDog]

To HOFers on stacked teams who had 1/10th the burden lebron had, while being outplayed by lebron anyways?

Another casual fan argument lol, you can't hang

Iguodala is a HOFer? :oldlol: That bar seems low, then again so is your intelligence.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Iguodala is a HOFer? :oldlol: Pretty low bar, then again sow is your intelligence.

Lebron averaged 36/13/9 and got votes on the losing team because he was so dominant (and without his 2other best players for the series)

Doubled iggy in every statistical category

But his direct comp won fmvp!!!!1

You're literally retarded lol. I'm holding you back with one arm tied behind my back

[MadDog]

Lebron averaged 36/13/9 and got votes on the losing team because he was so dominant (and without his 2other best players for the series)

But his direct comp won fmvp!!!!1

You're literally retarded lol. I'm holding you back with one arm tied behind my back

Iguodala held LeBron to 26 points and under 40% shooting, and yet you're bringing up his overall numbers. Good one idiot :oldlol: Your defense for LeBron is weak just like your intellect. Go ahead, I'll let you start using two arms now.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Iguodala held LeBron to 26 points and under 40% shooting, and yet you're bringing up his overall numbers. Good one doofus :oldlol: Your defense for LeBron is weak just like your intellect. Go ahead, I'll let you start using two hands now.

I think those are Jordan's numbers against 6'3 Gary Payton, you must be confused :oldlol:

You didn't make a rebuttal retard. Lebron was without his 2nd and 3rd option, against the leagues best defense that season. He put up 36/13/9 and made it a competitive series by himself... while doing literally everything on every possession.

You're a casual fan, its ok. I'm making you incredibly mad because you're an emotional retard and have no ability to dig yourself out of a hole. :lol

[MadDog]

I think those are Jordan's numbers against 6'3 Gary Payton, you must be confused :oldlol:

You didn't make a rebuttal retard. Lebron was without his 2nd and 3rd option, against the leagues best defense that season. He put up 36/13/9 and made it a competitive series by himself... while doing literally everything on every possession.

You're a casual fan, its ok. I'm making you incredibly mad because you're an emotional retard and have no ability to dig yourself out of a hole. :lol

I don't mind watching you chase your own tail, but no, those are definitely the numbers that net Iguodala a FMVP :oldlol: When do you think he makes the Hall Of Fame by the way? :confusedshrug: Inquiring minds want to know.

[AlternativeAcc.]

I don't mind watching you chase your own tail, but no, those are definitely the numbers that won Iguodala a FMVP :oldlol: When do you think he makes the Hall Of Fame by the way? :confusedshrug: Inquiring minds want to know.

Why didn't Payton get a FMVP for doing that to Jordan? Oh that's right, Jordan got carrie by pippen and Rodman. And stole a fmvp because of media narrative

You cherry picked one player because you know most of the players who won an fmvp ARE HOFers... i already touched on why the iggy example for you is a joke. He doubled his production in every category and was without his 2nd and 3rd option. You have no rebuttal. You're a retard :lol

[MadDog]

Why didn't Payton get a FMVP for doing that to Jordan? Oh that's right, Jordan got carrie by pippen and Rodman. And stole a fmvp because of media narrative

You cherry picked one player because you know most of the players who won an fmvp ARE HOFers... i already touched on why the iggy example for you is a joke. He doubled his production in every category and was without his 2nd and 3rd option. You have no rebuttal. You're a retard :lol

I asked you a pretty straight forward question so why are you dodging it? The claim is that Iguodala is a "HOFer" yet his probability isn't close :oldlol: Let us know what YOU know that everyone else doesn't. Judging by this exchange probably not a whole lot, but hey, I admire that you scratch and crawl like a hardworking fanboy :oldlol: Not a very bright one, but its good comedy.

[Shooter]

Lebron averaged 36/13/9 and got votes on the losing team because he was so dominant (and without his 2other best players for the series)

Doubled iggy in every statistical category

But his direct comp won fmvp!!!!1

You're literally retarded lol. I'm holding you back with one arm tied behind my back

MadDog SLAYED again :lol

[MadDog]

MadDog SLAYED again :lol

Your "friend" claimed that LeBron lost FMVPs to Hall Of Famers, and then pooped himself after I mentioned Iguodala :oldlol: Prime "Iggy" held your deity to 26 points on sub 40% shooting :eek:

[AlternativeAcc.]

I asked you a pretty straight forward question so why are you dodging it? The claim is that Iguodala is a "HOFer" yet his probability isn't close :oldlol: Let us know what YOU know that everyone else doesn't. Judging by this exchange probably not a whole lot, but hey, I admire that you scratch and crawl like a hardworking fanboy :oldlol: Not a very bright one, but its good comedy.

When did I say Iggy was HOF?

Is this really all you have? Pretending to lack basic comprehension levels and doubling down on autism? (Repeating shit that's been covered)

Yikes

[MadDog]

When did I say Iggy was HOF?

Is this really all you have? Pretending to lack basic comprehension levels and doubling down on autism? (Repeating shit that's been covered)

Yikes

Lets recap here since this is going over your head. I brought up the fact LeBron lost FMVPs to his direct competition. A record he still holds. You replied claiming he lost to “HOFers” and then I embarrassed you when mentioning Iguodala took one off of LeBron, holding him to 26 points on sub 40% shooting. So rattling off LeBron's overall numbers doesn’t "cover" anything, you mongrel. :oldlol: In addition to that “Iggy” isn’t a HOFer so your original statement doesn’t even carry weight. Him winning over LeBron also implies that there may have been more NON Hall Of Famers that could’ve had similar success. Kawhi is obviously a HOFer now, but he won a FMVP as a role player averaging 25 minutes a game.

Hope that covers it. :confusedshrug: I’ll keep “repeating” myself until you acknowledge all of that. I get that you’re still foaming at the mouth, but worry less about that and more about the shit running down your ankle.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lets recap here since this is going over your head. I brought up the fact LeBron lost FMVPs to his direct competition. A record he still holds. You replied claiming he lost to “HOFers” and then I embarrassed you when mentioning Iguodala took one off of LeBron, holding him to 26 points on sub 40% shooting. So rattling off LeBron's overall numbers doesn’t "cover" anything, you mongrel. :oldlol: In addition to that “Iggy” isn’t a HOFer so your original statement doesn’t even carry weight. Him winning over LeBron also implies that there may have been more NON Hall Of Famers that could’ve had similar success. Kawhi is obviously a HOFer now, but he won a FMVP as a role player averaging 25 minutes a game.

Hope that covers it. :confusedshrug: I’ll keep “repeating” myself until you acknowledge all of that. I get that you’re still foaming at the mouth, but worry less about that and more about the shit running down your ankle.

Autistic meltdown confirmed.

Yikes

You brought up Iggy, I brought up context

You then started rambling about stuff I didn't say because you never had a point to begin with and I destroyed it in few words.

[MadDog]

Autistic meltdown confirmed.

Yikes

You brought up Iggy, I brought up context

You then started rambling about stuff I didn't say because you never had a point to begin with and I destroyed it in few words.

Is this supposed to be a reply? :confusedshrug: I brought up Iguodala AFTER you claimed LeBron lost to "HOFers". Case closed, half breed.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Is this supposed to be a reply? :confusedshrug: I brought up Iguodala AFTER you claimed LeBron lost to "HOFers". Case closed, half breed.

The majority ARE HOFers you fukking moron. THATS the point.. you cherry picked one of the guys, and then I brought up even more context to show why you bringing that up was retarded.

You STILL don't get it :roll:

Yeesh, your asbergers is unrelenting

[Smoke117]

You got your ass kicked by 20 points every game and padded your stats, in series vs kawhi in 2014 and Durant in 2018. LeBron was passive when defended by kawhi and lost the series easily.

LeKing just led his team to the championship while your boy shit the bed and choked away a 3-1 lead...:lol

[Shooter]

LeKing just led his team to the championship while your boy shit the bed and choked away a 3-1 lead...:lol

https://i.postimg.cc/x16S2qMb/giphy.gif

[MadDog]

The majority ARE HOFers you fukking moron. THATS the point..
You STILL don't get it :roll:

Yeesh, your asbergers is unrelenting

But your original claim wasn't "majority are HOFers". It was the following.


To HOFers on stacked teams

Ouch. Why are you obsessed with "autism"? That's a rhetorical question, you stuttering inbred :oldlol:

[Shooter]

The majority ARE HOFers you fukking moron. THATS the point.. you cherry picked one of the guys, and then I brought up even more context to show why you bringing that up was retarded.

You STILL don't get it :roll:

Yeesh, your asbergers is unrelenting

He has to be on the spectrum. No two ways about it :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

He has to be on the spectrum. No two ways about it :lol

I'm convinced

Taking a statement 100% literally and throwing a tantrum when I tell him that's not how humans communicate

Poor guy is probably some handicapped recluse living with mom and dad. ( those poor bastards:lol)

[MadDog]

So am I not supposed to take you seriously? Nice faceplant there :oldlol: Your username is literally "Alternativeacc" and you're rocking a LeBron avatar. Hold off on the insults, mental midget.

[AlternativeAcc.]

So am I not supposed to take you seriously? Nice faceplant there :oldlol: Your username is literally "Alternativeacc" and you're rocking a LeBron avatar. Hold off on the insults, mental midget.

Are you okay?

Its not that serious man

I destroyed you in a basketball argument. You'll live

[MadDog]

Are you okay?

Its not that serious man

I destroyed you in a basketball argument. You'll live

We all will, but the only thing you "destroyed" was your credibility. Good talk :cheers:

[Phoenix]

LeBron led his team to a 2nd tour exit in 2010 and that wasn't even in the bubble

This dude is in such pain. :oldlol: where's it hurt little buddy?

[And1AllDay]

We all will, but the only thing you "destroyed" was your credibility. Good talk :cheers:

are you okay bruh :oldlol:
chill out with your shiny new 2020 acct self

got a lot to learn rook

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Jordan's position didn't even exist in the 90s. The other all-decade perimeter wing was on his own team.

I mean...Drexler? Miller? Starks? Hornacek? Ehlo? lmao LeBron has to deal with Pierce, Durant, Leonard, George, Harden, Thompson, Butler, Giannis and the list goes on and on.

[Horatio33]

He's 8-18 against Kobe/Phil, variance just kicked in that one lucky year. 2004 he lost again.

10 of those defeats were against Shaq and Kobe, 4 were against Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton and 4 were against Kobe and Gasol, plus Phil Jackson coached all those games. So Duncan played against stacked teams and the greatest coach ever.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

10 of those defeats were against Shaq and Kobe, 4 were against Shaq, Kobe, Malone and Payton and 4 were against Kobe and Gasol, plus Phil Jackson coached all those games. So Duncan played against stacked teams and the greatest coach ever.

2004 you lost to the dysfunctional Lakers that would end up getting destroyed in the finals

2008 Duncan had prime manu/parker and still lost 1-4 despite Pau Gasol averaging 13PPG hahhaha

Early 2000s series ass kicking Duncan had a 10 shot close out game as well, pathetic

Just face it, for their entire careers Kobe ran circles around Duncan and made him look silly. You had the fluke 2003 ring because Rick Fox was injured but that's it.

[Wally450]

And Kawhi got outplayed by a 7 foot fatass.

[MrFonzworth]

But your original claim wasn't "majority are HOFers". It was the following.



Ouch. Why are you obsessed with "autism"? That's a rhetorical question, you stuttering inbred :oldlol:

Kawhi and KD are HOFers though, so my original statement stands correct. Thanks for playing:cheers: