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insidehoops
10-21-2020, 02:51 AM
General Motors yesterday revealed there will be a GMC Hummer EV (electric vehicle) coming out in 2022, with a starting price of around $112,600. With cheaper models (still 80K and up) out a year or so later.
According to multiple reports, GM says the EV Hummer will fast charge (up to 100 miles of range in a 10 minute charge, per CNBC), drive almost like a sports car, function well off-road, etc. Basically they made the new Hummer sound pretty amazing.
I guess one by one major car companies will get into the electric vehicle game.
They made an ad with the king goat
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ecaOb8iNnQ
HylianNightmare
10-21-2020, 06:37 AM
My 10 year old Prius is still getting 50 mpg. I'll wait for a used tesla
CelticBaller
10-21-2020, 10:18 AM
Jeff/Steve why are imgur and other picture hosting sites blocked?
~primetime~
10-21-2020, 11:01 AM
GMC says it does 0-60 in 3 seconds...and has 1,000 horse power
that's just insane...that's the similar specs as the latest Ferrari Stradale (1000HP 0-60 2.5 sec)...on a fcking Hummer
The original Hummer had 300 HP
Luka Doncic
10-21-2020, 11:14 AM
Hummer EV is the newly crowned King of Trucks.
Nothing is better than this.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/10/20/USAT/c2d62677-55ce-4d72-9f44-6524931e90d1-2020-hummer-ev-reveal-infinityroof-013-GMC-Hummer-BT1XX-FN-RoofOFF-v1-0.jpg?width=660&height=372&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp
Former King. Dodge.
https://www.legacycdjr.com/assets/shared/CustomHTMLFiles/Responsive/MRP/RAM/2018/2500/images/2018-RAM-2500-01.jpg
Close 2nd...GMC Denali
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/4b/65/d04b65734ea861bf4d576db3a0f675a5.jpg
3rd. Tundra
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/e9/72/bee9729ba038038571b028f00486f4a2.jpg
4th. Raptor
https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2020-ford-f-150-raptor-carbuzz-606465.jpg
With that said look how the Hummer immediately made these gas trucks obsoloete.
highwhey
10-21-2020, 11:24 AM
GMC says it does 0-60 in 3 seconds...and has 1,000 horse power
that's just insane...that's the similar specs as the latest Ferrari Stradale (1000HP 0-60 2.5 sec)...on a fcking Hummer
The original Hummer had 300 HP
too bad it's ****ing ugly
i'll wait for the rivion r1t, $70k for a good looking ev truvk, 0-60 in 3 seconds, 11k in towing capacity
Luka Doncic
10-21-2020, 11:26 AM
too bad it's ****ing ugly
i'll wait for the rivion r1t, $70k for a good looking ev truvk, 0-60 in 3 seconds, 11k in towing capacity
SMH.
It looks like an electric Honda Ridgeline. Basically whoever drives these things squat when they pee and they also vape. I like all trucks too except the Ridgeline.
It even has hipster written all over it on their website. Neckbeard campers. It's not a truck it's a lifestyle vehicle. LOL
Patrick Chewing
10-21-2020, 12:22 PM
These new SUV's are gross and look tiny. The Bronco is an embarrassment.
AirBonner
10-21-2020, 01:11 PM
Hummer EV is the newly crowned King of Trucks.
Nothing is better than this.
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/10/20/USAT/c2d62677-55ce-4d72-9f44-6524931e90d1-2020-hummer-ev-reveal-infinityroof-013-GMC-Hummer-BT1XX-FN-RoofOFF-v1-0.jpg?width=660&height=372&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp
Former King. Dodge.
https://www.legacycdjr.com/assets/shared/CustomHTMLFiles/Responsive/MRP/RAM/2018/2500/images/2018-RAM-2500-01.jpg
Close 2nd...GMC Denali
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/4b/65/d04b65734ea861bf4d576db3a0f675a5.jpg
3rd. Tundra
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/e9/72/bee9729ba038038571b028f00486f4a2.jpg
4th. Raptor
https://cdn.carbuzz.com/gallery-images/2020-ford-f-150-raptor-carbuzz-606465.jpg
With that said look how the Hummer immediately made these gas trucks obsoloete.
You can get most pickup trucks for less than half the price of this hummer. Batteries are not the future. Think of how much it takes to make those batteries
Luka Doncic
10-21-2020, 02:07 PM
You can get most pickup trucks for less than half the price of this hummer. Batteries are not the future. Think of how much it takes to make those batteries
You are half correct but the trucks I posted are a tad bit more than half of the hummer. The 2nd release of the Hummer will be 80k which is comparable to the trucks I posted. GMC Denali hit 80k and the Raptor at my local dealership wants 73k for one but this is with the dealer markup since these trucks are hot right now.
I did spec out GMC Sierra 1500 basic options that I need and it came in at 33k. So you're correct in that sense but that is just a normal truck and doesn't perform like the trucks I mentioned above but nonetheless a Sierra is just too sweet.
highwhey
10-21-2020, 02:29 PM
You are half correct but the trucks I posted are a tad bit more than half of the hummer. The 2nd release of the Hummer will be 80k which is comparable to the trucks I posted. GMC Denali hit 80k and the Raptor at my local dealership wants 73k for one but this is with the dealer markup since these trucks are hot right now.
I did spec out GMC Sierra 1500 basic options that I need and it came in at 33k. So you're correct in that sense but that is just a normal truck and doesn't perform like the trucks I mentioned above but nonetheless a Sierra is just too sweet.
Raptor invoice is gonna be like 67k-69k depending on options. 73k is most likely msrp. i got mines for 1k over factory invoice price, so i paid like 70k for it.
bladefd
10-21-2020, 03:09 PM
Rich people car.. I want to see someone like Honda release a low-cost electric car for average people.. Honda typically has great prices and good quality cars. Hopefully down the road..
bladefd
10-21-2020, 03:17 PM
You can get most pickup trucks for less than half the price of this hummer. Batteries are not the future. Think of how much it takes to make those batteries
Batteries and electric vehicles are the future. You don't know what you are talking about. The cost of electric cars keeps dropping. Tesla brought down cost of model 3 to 37k. Elon said he wants to bring it down to 25k in next 4-5yrs, which is very much possible. Electric pickup trucks for 40k are only a few years away from being realistic. I bet by 2025, you will be able to buy an electric suv/pickup for under 50k.
GrayGoat
10-21-2020, 03:30 PM
Batteries and electric vehicles are the future. You don't know what you are talking about. The cost of electric cars keeps dropping. Tesla brought down cost of model 3 to 37k. Elon said he wants to bring it down to 25k in next 4-5yrs, which is very much possible. Electric pickup trucks for 40k are only a few years away from being realistic. I bet by 2025, you will be able to buy an electric suv/pickup for under 50k.
You ever wonder how they get the resources to make those huge batteries? Unless they find a way to make batteries tiny they will never trump gas.
bladefd
10-21-2020, 07:59 PM
You ever wonder how they get the resources to make those huge batteries? Unless they find a way to make batteries tiny they will never trump gas.
Individual Tesla battery:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-311f467d8666ff3b49f5637c912189d2-c
Hundreds of thousands of batteries situated underneath the car:
https://www.electrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/tesla-model-s-batterie.png
Latest batteries are rated for 1 million miles worth of re-charging before they need to be replaced. That can last decades & decades
I'm sure you heard of the Moore's law for electronics research - batteries have something similar. On average, the battery efficiency goes up about 5% every year.
As for weight... Yes, electric cars weight something like 1,000 pounds more, but so what? In gas cars, weight is a problem because too much can lower fuel efficiency since acceleration would require more gas. In electric cars, you are not limited by acceleration but rather by range. Battery efficiency helps the most with that - more efficiency = more range out of it per battery but no impact on acceleration.
There is also something called recuperative braking ( https://electrek.co/2018/04/24/regenerative-braking-how-it-works/ ) in electric vehicles that allow you to use your kinetic energy and re-generate some of the electricity used. It can re-generate 15-20% of electricity used - some reported up to 32% of the electricity being re-generated so weight actually helps the vehicle recuperate more electricity. Sure, less weight would be nice but you can overcome that with battery efficiency + regenerative braking + other benefits like no emissions.
Keep in mind also there are no moving parts, no complex engine in electric vehicles like in gas cars, which significantly lowers repair costs that cars tend to eventually need. Electric cars have batteries, electric motor, motor controller that is like a motherboard, regenerative brakes and drivetrain. That's it - that's the whole car. Gas cars have way more parts and way more parts that can go wrong.
so a new hummer is unveiled after 10 years, but yet we don't have PM's or rep.
you're garbage op
:oldlol:
Btw, tomtucker's initial post here about melting down over the vid i shared just because bran was featured in it is gone now. I think he also got a probation for that.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 02:18 AM
GMC says it does 0-60 in 3 seconds...and has 1,000 horse power
that's just insane...that's the similar specs as the latest Ferrari Stradale (1000HP 0-60 2.5 sec)...on a fcking Hummer
The original Hummer had 300 HP
No doubt its insane, but its not as insane as the Cybertruck - which is going to do 0-60 in 2.9 and has 600 miles of range compared to the 350 on the hummer while also being priced at 70k compared to 110k (before options) for the hummer
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:46 AM
No doubt its insane, but its not as insane as the Cybertruck - which is going to do 0-60 in 2.9 and has 600 miles of range compared to the 350 on the hummer while also being priced at 70k compared to 110k (before options) for the hummer
My issues with the Cybertruck are the aesthetics...that is one ugly fcking truck...literally looks like something out of a 1980s Sci-fi movie....or a PS1 game.
I just can not make myself like that design.
From just a purely practical standpoint...no one needs more than 300HP
Anything over 400HP really belongs on a race track...A 400 HP car is REALLY fast...you hit the gas and you're breaking the speed limit immediately, there is no need for more speed unless your competitive racing for sport.
I wouldn't even want to do 0-60 in 3 seconds in something shaped like a Hummer, that thing would probably flip and roll with the slightest turn...it's frame is clearly not designed for high speeds, and why the fck would you need to go that fast anyway in a Hummer?...it's really pointless over kill.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 10:28 AM
My issues with the Cybertruck are the aesthetics...that is one ugly fcking truck...literally looks like something out of a 1980s Sci-fi movie....or a PS1 game.
I just can not make myself like that design.
From just a purely practical standpoint...no one needs more than 300HP
Anything over 400HP really belongs on a race track...A 400 HP car is REALLY fast...you hit the gas and you're breaking the speed limit immediately, there is no need for more speed unless your competitive racing for sport.
I wouldn't even want to do 0-60 in 3 seconds in something shaped like a Hummer, that thing would probably flip and roll with the slightest turn...it's frame is clearly not designed for high speeds, and why the fck would you need to go that fast anyway in a Hummer?...it's really pointless over kill.
First of all, I am sorry to inform you that you are just wrong about the aesthetics. It does indeed look like something out of a 1980s sci-fi movie (back to the future specifically), and considering the 1980s was the most bad ass decade in recent history and arguably the overall peak of american society, its no surprise that Tesla took inspiration from this era of vehicles. Anyway, any supposed man who lists aesthetics/design as an important feature in a truck should probably have their estrogen levels checked... its a truck
Secondly, if you're buying cars from a purely practical standpoint you should be buying used Toyotas and Hondas rather than electric trucks in the 70k-110k range. Also, please check your horsepower privilege, just because you dont need more than 300HP doesnt mean thats true for everyone... my car has 450 hp and does 0-60 in ~3.2 sec and I definitely need more power.
Thirdly, arent you an american living in Texas? I would think that someone like you would be aware of the fact that theres no such thing as overkill in the car world. Did you really just ask why anyone would need to go that fast? Obviously they need to do it because they can and because its bad ass.
Anyway, its fine if you dislike the cybertruck aesthetics or dont understand why people want lots of power... I only responded because you said the hummer is insane when its specs are not really that impressive compared to other electric trucks that are coming soon
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 10:35 AM
I aspire to own a supercar...pretty soon too...for "bad ass" reasons lol...and I'm going to track it
I was speaking from pure practicality...no one "needs" more than 400HP...really 300HP is plenty
what do you own at those specs Nanners?...a Model S?
Nanners
10-22-2020, 10:51 AM
I aspire to own a supercar...pretty soon too...for "bad ass" reasons lol...and I'm going to track it
I was speaking from pure practicality...no one "needs" more than 400HP...really 300HP is plenty
what do you own at those specs Nanners?...a Model S?
I have a model 3 performance
Thats bad ass that you're thinking about buying a supercar. what cars are you looking at? I would love to own a track focused supercar someday... my model 3 is super fun to drive and has absurd acceleration, but its definitely not intended to be a track car
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 10:56 AM
I have a model 3 performance
Thats bad ass that you're thinking about buying a supercar. what cars are you looking at?
I want a used F430...and yes I could probably find a Porche or Vette with similar performance for cheaper, but my plan is to sell it and Ferrari has extremely high resale value, probably will get back what I paid. Also I am a Ferrari guy, love their cars, history, everything...they are works of art to me.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 11:16 AM
I want a used F430...and yes I could probably find a Porche or Vette with similar performance for cheaper, but my plan is to sell it and Ferrari has extremely high resale value, probably will get back what I paid. Also I am a Ferrari guy, love their cars, history, everything...they are works of art to me.
Nice, I love the 430 (its predecessor 360 is probably my favorite modern ferrari other than the Enzo). Its a timeless design and I def agree about the resale situation.
No doubt you could find a porsche or vette with better performance for cheaper, and you could probably find a modded mustang that has better performance than the porsche or vette for cheaper than those... but supercars arent supposed to be about finding the most efficient value/performance ratio.
Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:21 AM
I want a used F430...and yes I could probably find a Porche or Vette with similar performance for cheaper, but my plan is to sell it and Ferrari has extremely high resale value, probably will get back what I paid. Also I am a Ferrari guy, love their cars, history, everything...they are works of art to me.
They’re floating around 100k right now.
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 11:34 AM
They’re floating around 100k right now.
Yep my plan is to wait until a good deal pops up around $90k, own a couple years, and then hopefully sell around $100k...just have to be a patient shopper.
Weekend car only, so I won't put a ton of mileage on it...maybe just 3,000 a year.
shit might not go down like I want it to...but that's what I'm going to try
GrayGoat
10-22-2020, 12:01 PM
Yep my plan is to wait until a good deal pops up around $90k, own a couple years, and then hopefully sell around $100k...just have to be a patient shopper.
Weekend car only, so I won't put a ton of mileage on it...maybe just 3,000 a year.
shit might not go down like I want it to...but that's what I'm going to try
Love the f430. I see them all the time at the repair shop near my house. Not sure what that means but I’d get that thing looked over with a magnifying glass. These cars seem to completely fall apart if something is slightly “off”
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 12:08 PM
Love the f430. I see them all the time at the repair shop near my house. Not sure what that means but I’d get that thing looked over with a magnifying glass. These cars seem to completely fall apart if something is slightly “off”
From what I've read the clutch replacement is big one...around $5k...so when I buy that's where my magnifying glass will be, make sure it has a fresh clutch.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 12:15 PM
Yep my plan is to wait until a good deal pops up around $90k, own a couple years, and then hopefully sell around $100k...just have to be a patient shopper.
Weekend car only, so I won't put a ton of mileage on it...maybe just 3,000 a year.
shit might not go down like I want it to...but that's what I'm going to try
have you decided on manual vs automatic? from what I have seen the manuals have way better resale value, and their value of manuals is increasing faster than the automatics due to the scarcity - most manufacturers arent making manuals anymore
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 12:22 PM
have you decided on manual vs automatic? from what I have seen the manuals have way better resale value, and their value of manuals is increasing faster than the automatics due to the scarcity - most manufacturers arent making manuals anymore
man I would LOOOOOVE a manual with gated shifter...I learned to drive on a gated shifter. But I am not holding out hope for that, because yes they resale for more and you can't find them for cheap...everyone wants that.
Ferrari doesn't make them anymore...not sure what their last model to feature a gated shifter is but they are gone
Nanners
10-22-2020, 02:37 PM
man I would LOOOOOVE a manual with gated shifter...I learned to drive on a gated shifter. But I am not holding out hope for that, because yes they resale for more and you can't find them for cheap...everyone wants that.
Ferrari doesn't make them anymore...not sure what their last model to feature a gated shifter is but they are gone
I was blessed with the opportunity to drive a manual R8 one time, and click-clacking through gears on that gated shifter is one of the most deeply satisfying experiences I have ever had behind the wheel of a car... reminded me of the feeling of cycling a really nice bolt action rifle.
While the manuals cost a lot more, it seems like they will more than make up for that when you want to turn around and sell it. Like you said, everyone wants the gated manual and they just dont make them anymore... meanwhile virtually every modern supercar has some kind of paddle operated automatic, and those modern dual clutch transmissions make the f1 in the f430 feel very outdated in comparison.
what car did you learn to drive on?
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 03:15 PM
I shouldn't have said I learned on a gated shifter, I just meant I grew up driving a manual shifter...not specifically metal on metal.
My first car was a POS manual Honda Prelude...I actually sold a Fleer Michael Jordan rookie card to buy it. I don't even want see what that card is worth today.
And yeah, I could definitely resale a manual for a higher price...might actually be cheaper to go about it that way...I should consider that.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 03:47 PM
I shouldn't have said I learned on a gated shifter, I just meant I grew up driving a manual shifter...not specifically metal on metal.
My first car was a POS manual Honda Prelude...I actually sold a Fleer Michael Jordan rookie card to buy it. I don't even want see what that card is worth today.
And yeah, I could definitely resale a manual for a higher price...might actually be cheaper to go about it that way...I should consider that.
I grew up driving POS manuals too, my first car was a porsche 916 that was held together by duct tape... and like you I paid for that car by selling a collectible item that has skyrocketed in value since then - a first edition of harry potter and the sorcerers stone signed by jk rowling (I sold it for like $300... and last I checked it was worth 50k or more)
Anyway, not only would the manual f430 potentially wind up being the cheaper option to own after factoring in the resale value, but it will give you a much more magical and fulfilling experience as a driver which is definitely worth a lot too
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 03:54 PM
I grew up driving POS manuals too, my first car was a porsche 916 that was held together by duct tape... and like you I paid for that car by selling a collectible item that has skyrocketed in value since then - a first edition of harry potter and the sorcerers stone signed by jk rowling (I sold it for like $300... and last I checked it was worth 50k or more)
:eek::eek::eek:
Nanners
10-22-2020, 03:59 PM
boggles my mind that there are people on this planet willing to pay ~50k for a ****ing harry potter book... especially considering that JK Rowling is supposedly a transphobe now, and therefore highly problematic in the eyes of the harry potter generation :oldlol:
that 916 also skyrocketed in value after I sold it... mine was a total beater that I bought for around ~5k and sold a few years later for 10ish (which seemed like a huge win at the time), but these days a beater 916 is probably going to cost at least 50k and a restored one can go for several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 04:07 PM
916 is a weird car...I like it's uniqueness...I don' think I've seen one of those in over a decade at least
have you decided on manual vs automatic? from what I have seen the manuals have way better resale value, and their value of manuals is increasing faster than the automatics due to the scarcity - most manufacturers arent making manuals anymore
Yup, manual is getting very scarce these days. I think they're just being saved for large commercial vehicles but it's still nice to have them for faster cars. Good luck in the traffic doe. :oldlol:
New cars now come with automatics that have manual override and depending on which model, have paddle shifters. One good thing about autos is that they don't feel so conventional anymore.
Remember the time during the 90s until mid 00s when most of them only had 4 gears to play? This was the very reason why i used to dislike them back then and they're not efficient plus no manual override yet as well. At least standard manuals already had 5 gears during those years but as time passed by, surely they all had evolved.
They now have 6 or more gears but ford is trying to set the bar on this by offering 10 gears on their models, including ones that aren't present in north america. That helps in performance, economy and linear power delivery. I just hope they would last for a long time although I've already heard some recalls in the early batches.
Nanners
10-22-2020, 04:26 PM
916 is a weird car...I like it's uniqueness...I don' think I've seen one of those in over a decade at least
Yeah they are incredibly rare these days, which is a big part of the reason for the current absurd sale prices.
rawimpact
10-22-2020, 04:37 PM
Yeah living where I do, flood zone AE, i don't think an electric or hybrid vehicle is a wise choice.
But that 40k Cybertruck is pretty enticing considering its range and price tag before federal incentives/rebates.
Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 04:53 PM
man I would LOOOOOVE a manual with gated shifter...I learned to drive on a gated shifter. But I am not holding out hope for that, because yes they resale for more and you can't find them for cheap...everyone wants that.
Ferrari doesn't make them anymore...not sure what their last model to feature a gated shifter is but they are gone
355 last manual which is my favorite Ferrari of all time. I want one of these but there is an engine service that involves taking out the engine a 30k service. You can find these cars at 60k means no service. 100k means it has gone through the service.
~primetime~
10-22-2020, 05:02 PM
355 last manual which is my favorite Ferrari of all time. I want one of these but there is an engine service that involves taking out the engine a 30k service. You can find these cars at 60k means no service. 100k means it has gone through the service.
That's not the last manual, unless you mean that's the last Ferrari that ONLY came in manual. I looked it up because of this thread, last Ferrari you could get with a gated shifter is the 2007 599.
Jailblazers7
10-22-2020, 07:51 PM
I think the Rivian electric truck is the most interesting EV truck that's being released. Best design & aesthetics imo and cool features like the tank turn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I
Nanners
10-22-2020, 08:20 PM
I think the Rivian electric truck is the most interesting EV truck that's being released. Best design & aesthetics imo and cool features like the tank turn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I
those headlights are kinda whack looking tho...
I think the Rivian electric truck is the most interesting EV truck that's being released. Best design & aesthetics imo and cool features like the tank turn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I
This truck somewhat resembles the new land rover defender.
Jailblazers7
10-22-2020, 09:53 PM
Yeah, I think those are probably going to be divisive but I'm into them. I think those are gonna be something most people either love or hate.
Jailblazers7
10-22-2020, 09:53 PM
those headlights are kinda whack looking tho...
Yeah, I think those are probably going to be divisive but I'm into them. I think those are gonna be something most people either love or hate.
Jasper
10-22-2020, 11:16 PM
1000 hp rig ... I use 4 wheel drive 6 months a year.. but for 100k
I am not rich...
If it was in the 35-45k range / people would be buying them off the shelves !!
GrayGoat
10-23-2020, 12:35 AM
1000 hp rig ... I use 4 wheel drive 6 months a year.. but for 100k
I am not rich...
If it was in the 35-45k range / people would be buying them off the shelves !!
No worries Toyota will be implementing hybrid engines in all of their trucks and SUV’s. The regular tundra will have 500hp and 800lb tq. Rav4 prime is the preview of this
highwhey
10-23-2020, 12:42 AM
No worries Toyota will be implementing hybrid engines in all of their trucks and SUV’s. The regular tundra will have 500hp and 800lb tq. Rav4 prime is the preview of this
thats gonna be fast damn
bladefd
10-23-2020, 02:19 AM
1000 hp rig ... I use 4 wheel drive 6 months a year.. but for 100k
I am not rich...
If it was in the 35-45k range / people would be buying them off the shelves !!
Hummers were always 70-80k. They were never really for the average person.
Hummers were always 70-80k. They were never really for the average person.
Plus they have poorer gas mileage over their 1500 subbie/tahoe counterparts, an abysmal 9 mpg at worst.
Meticode
10-23-2020, 05:30 PM
I don't get it. The top tier Hummer EV will be $112,000 and the max range is like 350 miles, but you can get the top tier Cybertruck for about $80,000 and get 500+ miles of range. The highest tier Cybertruck is almost the same cost of the lowest tier Hummer EV.
bladefd
10-23-2020, 09:20 PM
I don't get it. The top tier Hummer EV will be $112,000 and the max range is like 350 miles, but you can get the top tier Cybertruck for about $80,000 and get 500+ miles of range. The highest tier Cybertruck is almost the same cost of the lowest tier Hummer EV.
That's why this Hummer isn't good enough. I like how the Hummer looks and some of the concepts, but it's very expensive & has low range.
Tesla is far ahead of the curve. These other companies are just catching up because they started later. Much later and only after they saw Tesla's valuation go through the roof in last 2 years. If GM/Ford don't go electric, Tesla is on pace to take them all out of business in next 5yrs (Elon Musk said Tesla is going to have a fully electric car costing $25k on the market in next 3-5 years).
Internal combustion engine (ICE) car companies have to get on-board or get out of the car business altogether. If Tesla releases a $25k car in next 3-5yrs & other companies can't match it, it's game over for all of them. ICE car companies can't compete with a $25k electric Tesla at the current pace they are going at. Used ICE cars market will still be massive for years, but used cars don't make money for the manufacturer.
2023 GMC Hummer Electric SUV Leaked Via GM Investor Call (https://www.motortrend.com/news/2023-gmc-hummer-electric-suv-leaked-photo-gm-call/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem+Manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1iQ127fA5p66OLXYEiyF3ihL-2h8zBiFy7zROu1fbk2TJtukFN-C1cQiU)
warriorfan
01-10-2021, 11:38 PM
CNBC.com: "The vehicle is expected to compete against a host of electric pickups expected from Tesla, Ford Motor and several start-up companies such as Rivian. Tesla's Cybertruck and Rivian's R1T are both expected to have starting prices well below the Hummer EV beginning next year."
Looks like there is going to be a lot of competition for the EV Truck market. Interesting. :cheers:
highwhey
01-10-2021, 11:39 PM
interested in the rivian r1t. electric will challenge even diesel trucks...if their durability can match diesel's durability.
that's a big segment too. if those electric engines can rival the durability of a cummins engine, it's game over.
Stanley Kobrick
01-10-2021, 11:42 PM
interested in the rivian r1t. electric will challenge even diesel trucks...if their durability can match diesel's durability.
that's a big segment too. if those electric engines can rival the durability of a cummins engine, it's game over.
it seems the welfarefan has spent his whole weekend trying to get you banned and yet, jeff continues to side with you :cheers:
highwhey
01-10-2021, 11:44 PM
it seems the welfarefan has spent his whole weekend trying to get you banned and yet, jeff continues to side with you :cheers:
:cheers:
it seems the welfarefan has spent his whole weekend trying to get you banned and yet, jeff continues to side with you :cheers:
Some things will never change but at least we are happy.
A little bit bigger than the H2 (https://www.motortrend.com/news/2024-gmc-hummer-ev-suv-vs-hummer-h2-specs-comparison/?sm_id=organic_fb_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign&utm_medium&utm_source&fbclid=IwAR03Kw4qpHgO1NyeBP3l5SXPAZwYvPk0R__mCf9uI 0kFdh4qu6CoaEyO6BY)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GKOWsU2F2Vc
Jasper
12-20-2021, 07:26 PM
These new SUV's are gross and look tiny. The Bronco is an embarrassment.
was the old bronco big ??
Jasper
12-20-2021, 07:28 PM
this hummer has a back that appears is a pickup, but a pickup to me is a box that is 8' long for lumber and everything else.
(I haul 25 + loads of stuff a year,, a little box like that I call a rake hauler)
was the old bronco big ??
Even 3500hd suvs aren't enough for poopsie chewing's needs. :(
Nanners
12-23-2021, 06:57 AM
I was pretty skeptical when this vehicle was announced, but its looking like GM knocked it out of the park on this one.
If I could own any electric car on the market - I would choose a Rimac or Neo EP9, which I would immediately sell... but maybe afterward I would buy this hummer (and maybe a new house too).
The only major concern I would have with the Hummer is charging on the road. My Tesla has a 85 kw battery and it takes ~20-30 mins to charge from empty to near full at the newest supercharger stations (250kw/hr). The Hummer has a ~200kw battery, so even if you can find a public charger with the same speeds as the newest Tesla charge stations (doubtful), it would still take twice as long.
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