David West says the Bosh/Bargnani front court would be unstoppable now.

[Kblaze8855]

Because you couldn’t guard Bargnani with current rules.



I thought about this the other day. When [Andrea] Bargnani and [Chris] Bosh were in Toronto, the reason why that sh** didn’t work is ’cause the NBA let us beat them up! We beat up Bargnani, they let us body Bosh.

“Like, Bosh and Bargnani right now, they would blow this NBA out of the water. They were damn near impossible to guard. I’m serious. The only reason Bargnani didn’t have a (successful) career was ’cause the referees let people like me beat him up! David West, via Basketball News

“In today’s game, he would be killin’ because he would be protected. Ryan, you know, you remember — he would try that sweep at the three-point line; they wasn’t giving him that sh**, that rip-through. We could grab both arms.” David West, via Basketball News




Thoughts?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Bargnani is getting played off the court even worse than he was at the time.

[TheGoatest]

Even though shooting has become more prominent, rebounding still exists in the game of basketball.

[starface]

I mean sure, if theyre playing with Lebron they could appear 'unstoppable' and become champions. Otherwise it's hard to see them really having a place in today's ultra competitive era.

But in all seriousness... can the Lakers get them or what?

[tpols]

Bosh's face up midrange game is so underrated.

He was so neutered by the collusion. The guy was a legit RAPTOR. No slow post stuff. Straight attack... with the wild braids and appearance to match lol.

Guy was straight out of Jurassic Park.

[starface]

Bosh's face up midrange game is so underrated.

He was so neutered by the collusion. The guy was a legit RAPTOR. No slow post stuff. Straight attack... with the wild braids and appearance to match lol.

Empty stats. He needed LeCarry.

[tpols]

Empty stats. He needed LeCarry.

Bosh's best teammate ever in Toronto was Anthony Parker. By every metric. And while he didn't have the mainstream NBA WWE appeal. That guy was good. Really good. He just didn't fit the basketball entertainment bill America demands. Bargnani was a total joke compared to him. But hey... he was tall and could shoot outside the NBA.

[TheGoatest]

Empty stats. He needed LeCarry.

This.

He plays in the same "weak east" where LeBron gets no respect for making the finals, yet this guy gets nothing but excuses for only making the playoffs twice in his 7 seasons with the Raptors, and exiting in the first round both times by the way.

[Bronbron23]

Bargnani is getting played off the court even worse than he was at the time.

Right because you know better than someone who played the game and actually defended him. Literally any finess player who can shoot would do better now. Defenders now Can't contest shots, can't fight through screens and can barely touch the offensive player. This era is built for soft players who can shoot. Bargani would flourish.

[tpols]

Right because you know better than someone who played the game and actually defended him. Literally any finess player who can shoot would do better now. Defenders now Can't contest shots, can't fight through screens and can barely touch the offensive player. This era is built for soft players who can shoot. Bargani would flourish.

Gallo still isn't good.

Honestly, I dont think it'd make much a difference for Barg. He played in the post 2006 era and wasn't generally good.

[Bronbron23]

Gallo still isn't good.

Honestly, I dont think it'd make much a difference for Barg. He played in the post 2006 era and wasn't generally good.

Post 2006? It was harder to score post 2006. And he wouldn't be a star. Unstoppable is definitely an exaggeration but he'd definitely be better.

[tpols]

There was no better a time for a stretch 5 (or any offensive player) than after they softened the rules after the 2005 Finals.

Now stretch big men are expected. Back then they weren't as much. And he still played poorly.

[CelticBaller]

Bargani would still be a bad perimeter defender. Chris Bosh on the other hand could be the best center

[Bronbron23]

Yeah he would but it be no different than most white players today. As you can shoot it thats all that matters. We just saw a Miami heat team make the finsls with 2 of the worst defenders ever playing heavy minutes.

[ralph_i_el]

Bargs had a season or 2 where he was a huge plus on offense. Hard to think he wouldn't be an even larger impact now. Less danger of running him at the 5 and seeing him get torched nowadays. Even if you do let him get owned by an AD-type beast, his shooting is still bringing that guy to the perimeter on defense, which opens the floor up for the rest of his team.

[ralph_i_el]

Gallo still isn't good.





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[tpols]

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Do you watch the playoffs mate?

[RRR3]

Gallo still isn't good.

Honestly, I dont think it'd make much a difference for Barg. He played in the post 2006 era and wasn't generally good.
Gallo isn’t good? What? Stop posting.

[ralph_i_el]

Do you watch the playoffs mate?

7 games tell you the whole story of a guy's career and impact. Cool.

[tpols]

7 games tell you the whole story of a guy's career and impact. Cool.

He shoots 37% from the field for his entire playoff career lol.

[ralph_i_el]

He shoots 37% from the field for his entire playoff career lol.

Break that down. That's 2 series as a 22-23 year old on a mediocre Nuggets team, a really bad series against the 2019 Warriors where he got owned by Durant and Dray (but anyone in his position was going to get owned, and they took the W's to 7), and this past year. 25 games total.

I've watched this guy play dozens of games. I watched him play in the WC for Italy. I know he's a really good player who has had bad luck with injuries.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Right because you know better than someone who played the game and actually defended him. Literally any finess player who can shoot would do better now. Defenders now Can't contest shots, can't fight through screens and can barely touch the offensive player. This era is built for soft players who can shoot. Bargani would flourish.

This is such terrible appeal-to-authority reasoning. There are active players who think LeBron is the GOAT yet you disagree with them right? Guess you think you know better than someone who played the game and defended him. :oldlol:

By the way, Bargnani played like 6 years ago and was ass not 60 years ago.

[Bronbron23]

This is such terrible appeal-to-authority reasoning. There are active players who think LeBron is the GOAT yet you disagree with them right? Guess you think you know better than someone who played the game and defended him. :oldlol:

By the way, Bargnani played like 6 years ago and was ass not 60 years ago.

We're talking offense so he definitely wasnt ass he was 15-20 point scorer in an era where it was harder to score. It only makes sense that he'd score more in the easiest scoring era ever.

And your scenario isnt the same. West played in both era's so he's pretty qualified to make the comparison. I dont think there'sm any players that defended prime mike and prim bron. There's to big of a gap.

Actually it seems most players who played against late 90"s mj and then eventually lebron say mj was better

[GrayGoat]

Bosh scored 0pts in a finals game and now he’s “unstoppable”

[BigtimeNBAFan]

Bargnani would be awful in any era. A stupid take by West. There is a reason Bargnani never played in the playoffs beyond his second year in Toronto. Him going to the Knicks destroyed a 50 win team.

[light]

Because you couldn’t guard Bargnani with current rules.





Thoughts?

The Nuggets beat up Anthony Davis.

They would do the same thing to Bosh.

I think West is overrating those two who were known to be soft and wouldve been pushed around in any era.

[Bronbron23]

The Nuggets beat up Anthony Davis.

They would do the same thing to Bosh.

I think West is overrating those two who were known to be soft and wouldve been pushed around in any era.

The nuggets beat up Davis? You know your in the softest era ever when you actually think this:facepalm

[red1]

the talent is definitely there. they were both good shooters.


bargnani was mentally weak though. no doubt he'd still find a way to get punked in this soft league.

[ralph_i_el]

Also "unstoppable" might just mean "with that much shooting in their frontcourt, any perimeter player in the league will be able to get to the rim with all that space"

[GrayGoat]

Also "unstoppable" might just mean "with that much shooting in their frontcourt, any perimeter player in the league will be able to get to the rim with all that space"

They are basically traffic cones lol. Let’s not forget that Bosh played in the same exact “weak East” as LeBron and couldn’t get anything done

[red1]

Also "unstoppable" might just mean "with that much shooting in their frontcourt, any perimeter player in the league will be able to get to the rim with all that space"

I think he meant they'd be lighting it up on scoring-wise because they were already playing like guards back then and shooting with range and mostly struggled against physical bigs - there are none nowadays and you can get them off the court with fouls.


The heat with bosh at center and lebron at small-forward is the first small-ball team we've had that won a ring. They didn't have a real center when they won and even moreso the second year that they won in 2013. Bosh was their undersized center.