Between Pippen and Wade who were better in the following categories?

[Gus Hemmingway]

- 3 point shooting
- Fastbreaks
- Assists
- Rebounds
- Defense

?

[And1AllDay]

Deyknow


we stay winning

[72-10]

Pippen stay winning at most of these

[Bronbron23]

- 3 point shooting
- Fastbreaks
- Assists
- Rebounds
- Defense

?

Playoffs:
Pts- wade wins
3pt- pip 30% wade 33% wade wins
Ast- pip 5 wade 4.9 tie
Reb- pip 7 wade 5 pip wins
Defense- pip wins
Fg%- pip 44% wade 47% wade wins
Ft%- pip 72% wade 78%

Not sure what the point of this thread is. Wade is clearly the better player. Pip still great though.

[nineiron]

Playoffs:
Pts- wade wins
3pt- pip 30% wade 33% wade wins
Ast- pip 5 wade 4.9 tie
Reb- pip 7 wade 5 pip wins
Defense- pip wins
Fg%- pip 44% wade 47% wade wins
Ft%- pip 72% wade 78%

Not sure what the point of this thread is. Wade is clearly the better player. Pip still great though.

water is wet

[starface]

Google "Scottie Pippen dick size"


I'm serious.

[3ball]

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Outside of 91' and 92', Pippen was bad every year in the playoffs.. nowhere near all-nba:



88-90' - 12 on 42% vs Pistons

1993 - worse than 14' Wade.. 16.9 PER... 0.083 WS/48... 2.0 BPM... 45.9% TS in Finals.. 50.0 TS overall

1994 - Kukoc led team in BPM... 3 teammates had higher WS/48... 21 on 40% in 2nd Round including 3 chokes (sit-out game, dumb-foul game, game 7).. destroyed by Ewing

1995 - 19 on 40% in ECSF (caused loss)

96-98 - 17 on 41% for entire 2nd three-peat... Many horrific series

1999 - 18 on 32% in 1st round loss

00-03' - 187th option for the Blazers.. 9 ppg player


So Pippen nearly always sucked in the playoffs.. and his peak playoff capability is far below everyone's (Kyrie, AD, Wade, Worthy, KJ, McHale, Kemp....... EVERYONE)

only his 91' run was without blemish (except the dumb foul on Vlade that nearly lost Game 3 of the Finals.. MJ had to save team)...

He was okay in 1992, except his horrible performance in the ECSF that nearly caused loss and unnecessary 7 game series vs Knicks - this isn't debateable - ONLY PIPPEN'S POOR PLAY caused the unexpected close series..

He sucked every other year

So again, MJ built Pippen into an all-nba regular season player, and then carried him in playoffs..

Virtually everyone says that rookie Pippen benefitted tremendously by landing next to the DPOY and scoring champ

So virtually everyone says Pippen was helped tremendously by Jordan, whereas all of lebron's teammates were stars BEFORE playing with lebron

[3ball]

Playoffs:
Pts- wade wins
3pt- pip 30% wade 33% wade wins
Ast- pip 5 wade 4.9 tie
Reb- pip 7 wade 5 pip wins
Defense- pip wins
Fg%- pip 44% wade 47% wade wins
Ft%- pip 72% wade 78%

Not sure what the point of this thread is. Wade is clearly the better player. Pip still great though.


:applause:


Comparing sidekick help while trying to 3-peat - 14' Wade vs 93' Pippen


Playoffs

14' Wade..... 18.5 PER.. 0.086 ws/48.. 1.6 obpm
93' Pippen... 16.9 PER.. 0.083 ws/48.. 1.1 obpm


Per 100 Possessions - Playoffs

14' Wade..... 28.6 pts.. 6.2 ast.. 56.0 ts.. 106 ortg
93' Pippen... 26.2 pts.. 7.4 ast.. 50.0 ts.. 102 ortg


^^^ so 14' Wade had been reduced to prime pippen stats (aka trash), which is why everyone thought he sucked

Lebron fans are just annoyed that lebron/Wade only went 1*/4 including the goat choke and record loss

[starface]

3ball did you Google it?

[Roundball_Rock]

Playoffs:
Pts- wade wins
3pt- pip 30% wade 33% wade wins
Ast- pip 5 wade 4.9 tie
Reb- pip 7 wade 5 pip wins
Defense- pip wins
Fg%- pip 44% wade 47% wade wins
Ft%- pip 72% wade 78%

Not sure what the point of this thread is. Wade is clearly the better player. Pip still great though.

You are using post-prime numbers and not putting them in context of their era. You know the answers to the OP, which is why OP cherry picked those categories. I assume he did so to see if MJ stans would give a MJ teammate credit even in obvious eras (apparently not).

The interesting thing is all-time they are ranked neck and neck.

ESPN: Pippen 21st, Wade 26th
Slam: Pippen 22nd, Wade 23rd
Backpicks: Wade 24th, Pippen 25th

This is for their careers as a whole, not 2011-2014 Wade against 1991-1998 Pippen too...

[AlternativeAcc.]

3ball did you Google it?


So Scottie Pippen's ***** is two feet long. I told you these were randoms. This is one of those stories I thought about awhile back and it just made me laugh and laugh. In 1995, when I was in the locker room with the Bulls (an old WTVN entry that's actually up), Scottie was late coming out of the showers and came out with just a towel around his waist. I was there with the rest of the reporters, including a woman, and I remember how unfair I thought it was that they had to put up with that. But anyway - he sat down to put his socks on and his head peaked out of the bottom of his towel at which point myself and the woman reporter immediately turned around trying to act like we didn't see what we just saw. It then dawned on me as I looked down at my own distance from my crotch to my knee that what I just witnessed belonged in a ****ing museum...and Mr. Pippen is a foot taller than me. So when he finally got dressed and we were interviewing him I kept staring at the length from his waist to his knee in utter shock. It had to be over 3 feet, and his monster peeked out about 2-3 inches from his knee SITTING DOWN. So you do the math. Now maybe there's just some "reporter's code" about never mentioning such a thing for fear of making the athlete angry, but for ****'s sake feel free to anger me if I ever throw that over my shoulder in public view. Criminey.


:hammertime::lebronamazed::djparty

[3ball]

2011-2014 Wade against 1991-1998 Pippen too..


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Finals


11-14 Wade..... 20/5/4 on 46%... 2/4
91-98 Pippen... 19/7/5 on 42%... 6/6

[8Ball]

Pippen stay winning at most of these

Correctumondo

[Roundball_Rock]

...

Stats are useless across eras because scoring, pace is up and defenses softer today. MJ stains themselves will point this out but are too dishonest to ever admit that when it comes to MJ's teammates.

All-NBA 1st teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 3
Wade 2011-2014: 0

All-NBA teams 1st/2nd Teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 5
Wade 2011-2014: 1

All-NBA teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 7
Wade 2011-2014: 3

Top 5 MVP

Pippen 1991-1998: 2x
Wade 2011-2014: 0x

As to playoffs:

Pippen 1991-1998 PO BPM: 5.6
Wade 2011-2014 PO BPM: 4.6

Pippen 1991-1998 PO VORP: 10.6 (136 games)
Wade 2011-2014 PO VORP: 5.3 (86 games)

Stop using Wade for your dumb agenda by invoking this unfair comparisons knowing Wade wasn't Wade for much of LeBron's time in Miami and knowing Pippen was in his prime for the entire 1991-1998 period.

[Bronbron23]

Stats are useless across eras because scoring, pace is up and defenses softer today. MJ stains themselves will point this out but are too dishonest to ever admit that when it comes to MJ's teammates.

All-NBA 1st teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 3
Wade 2011-2014: 0

All-NBA teams 1st/2nd Teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 5
Wade 2011-2014: 1

All-NBA teams

Pippen 1991-1998: 7
Wade 2011-2014: 3

Top 5 MVP

Pippen 1991-1998: 2x
Wade 2011-2014: 0x

As to playoffs:

Pippen 1991-1998 PO BPM: 5.6
Wade 2011-2014 PO BPM: 4.6

Pippen 1991-1998 PO VORP: 10.6 (136 games)
Wade 2011-2014 PO VORP: 5.3 (86 games)

Stop using Wade for your dumb agenda by invoking this unfair comparisons knowing Wade wasn't Wade for much of LeBron's time in Miami and knowing Pippen was in his prime for the entire 1991-1998 period.

Its not unfair. Wade played most of his career in similar pace and offensive output as pip so thats just b.s. wade was just better. We dont even need stats. We can just use out eyes for that.

[MadDog]

:roll: at Pippen > Wade. Wade was a better scorer, jumpshooter, finisher and passer. Had more dominant playoff runs and 2 Finals that were better than ANY series Pippen had. Wade actually should have 2 FMVPs if it weren't for LeBron sabotaging his performance. Greater doesn't equal better though, so Pippen has an argument there. 6 rings is still 6 rings even though Wade was undoubtedly better.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I see Pippen winning in 2011 because he will play sidekick to LeBron much better.

I see Pippen losing in 2006 because he can't get to the free throw like and score like Wade.

[Bronbron23]

I see Pippen winning in 2011 because he will play sidekick to LeBron much better.

I see Pippen losing in 2006 because he can't get to the free throw like and score like Wade.

Not sure about 2011. I dont think that had anything to do with wade. Bron was just off. He didn't look right. I dont know if he was hurt or maybe west really did smash his mom and it messed him up but something was up. There's nothing pip could of done about that.

[Roundball_Rock]

:roll: at Pippen > Wade. Wade was a better scorer, jumpshooter, finisher and passer.

Damn, there must be nothing Pippen did better than Wade since those evidently are the only categories!

The question isn't Pippen vs. Wade. It is Wade 2011-2014 versus 1991-1998 Pippen. Wade in 13' and 14', MJ stains don't even want to acknowledge Wade existed those years. That is half his time with LeBron during that run. :lol

[MadDog]

Damn, there must be nothing Pippen did better than Wade since those evidently are the only categories!

The question isn't Pippen vs. Wade. It is Wade 2011-2014 versus 1991-1998 Pippen. Wade in 13' and 14', MJ stains don't even want to acknowledge Wade existed those years. That is half his time with LeBron during that run. :lol

Wade in 2011 was better than Pippen ever was :confusedshrug: Cutting out Wade's best years tells you the difference in quality.

[Bronbron23]

Damn, there must be nothing Pippen did better than Wade since those evidently are the only categories!

The question isn't Pippen vs. Wade. It is Wade 2011-2014 versus 1991-1998 Pippen. Wade in 13' and 14', MJ stains don't even want to acknowledge Wade existed those years. That is half his time with LeBron during that run. :lol

Nah pip did plenty great so did wade though.

And using prime pip isnt really accurate. We can just use 2nd three peat pip since we know mj still wins even with a non prime pip and second three peat pip is more close to 11-14 wade.

Tbh neither were world beaters. Pip was like 17/6/7 on 47% fg and wade was like 21/5/5 on 51% fg. Both played great defense but pip gets the edge there. I have no problem saying wade wasnt amazing and at his best but you seem to have a hard time saying the same about pip. How you can say 16/6/7 on 47% shooting is a superstar is beyond me.

[LAmbruh]

:hammertime::lebronamazed::djparty

:biggums: :bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

3ball did you Google it?

:oldlol:::oldlol:

[GrayGoat]

A goat can’t be chained to a teammate in order to have success.

[3ball]

Finals


11-14 Wade..... 20/5/4 on 46%... 2/4
91-98 Pippen... 19/7/5 on 42%... 6/6




Anyone?

We know that lebron hurt Wade's game and both were exploited by the Spurs.. so that cratered Wade's production to pippen level

[Roundball_Rock]

How you can say 16/6/7 on 47% shooting is a superstar is beyond me.

Me? He was voted to all-NBA playing half a season. That means a lot of people thought he was elite enough that half a season of him>full season of stars like Kemp (a MJ stan darling), Webber, etc. That's the beauty of these awards. You need to get a mass of support. So it wasn't some whacky opinion.

2014 Wade wasn't even all-NBA. Nor was he even close.

2014 all-NBA voting among guards: Paul 540, Harden 502, Curry 489, Parker 210, Lillard/Dragic 115 (all made it), Wall 70, DeRozan 56, Westbrook 32, Lowry 29, Irving 7, Wade 6, Conley/JJ 4, a couple more.

Wade is 12th in voting among guards alone and that is being compared to prime Pippen. :lol


We can just use 2nd three peat pip since we know mj still wins even with a non prime pip

Really? When was this? :confusedshrug:

[And1AllDay]

:hammertime::lebronamazed::djparty

:biggums::party:

[MadDog]

In 2005, and as Shaq's sidekick, Wade posted 27/6/7 on 48% shooting in the playoffs. Averaged more points, a higher PER and OBPM than Pippen ever did in the playoffs. This was Wade in his second year!

[3ball]

Me? He was voted to all-NBA playing half a season. That means a lot of people thought he was elite enough that half a season of him>full season of stars like Kemp (a MJ stan darling), Webber, etc. That's the beauty of these awards. You need to get a mass of support. So it wasn't some whacky opinion.

2014 Wade wasn't even all-NBA. Nor was he even close.

2014 all-NBA voting among guards: Paul 540, Harden 502, Curry 489, Parker 210, Lillard/Dragic 115 (all made it), Wall 70, DeRozan 56, Westbrook 32, Lowry 29, Irving 7, Wade 6, Conley/JJ 4, a couple more.

Wade is 12th in voting among guards alone and that is being compared to prime Pippen. :lol



Really? When was this? :confusedshrug:

the winning spotlight and association with the goat simply inflated pippen's garbage stats and frequent bed-wetting.. this is common knowledge..

no one paid attention to pippen or could tell you his stats at the end of a series because everyone knew they weren't remarkable - and no one expected him to win games or dominate.. and he never did.. so he went virtually unnoticed by fans and was never held accountable or even noticed when he wet the bed.. all the focus was on mj - MJ took all responsibility for losses.. his teammates NEVER got blamed (the opposite of lebron's teammates, who catch all the blame)

And defense means nothing because look at AD - the Lakers could never have him scoring like pippen, and he plays better defense than pippen.. MJ simply carried Pippen and the bulls - they were a 1-man team, like Reggie Miller, Chuck Daly, Isiah, Laimbeer, and Magic said