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TheMan
10-22-2020, 08:11 PM
Supposedly the POTUS gonna make Hunter Biden front and center in tonight's debate. The way Biden seems to be overly sensitive about his flunky kid, sparks will fly and hopefully some hands thrown too :lol

Also, a mute button is actually a thing tonight too :yaohappy:

Nanners
10-22-2020, 08:16 PM
the first time they mute trump he should just walk over to Bidens podium and start talking into his mic

Doomsday Dallas
10-22-2020, 08:26 PM
Trump gonna go full Alex Jones on Biden's ass tonight.

Real Men Wear Green
10-22-2020, 08:28 PM
If they are serious about an exchange of ideas the mute button is necessary. If they had it last time they would have done Trump a favor by shutting him up. Trump needs Biden to make a mistake. By not letting him make an uninterrupted point he kept Biden from saying anything he might regret while giving Biden the excuse of "that asshole won't let him talk."

If true the following would bug me if I was a Trump supporter: Trump supposedly did two hours of debate prep. Biden meanwhile had been prepping all week. Even let Obama be the start of thr campaign while he got ready. Trump can't afford to get outworked.

Nanners
10-22-2020, 08:37 PM
Trump gonna go full Alex Jones on Biden's ass tonight.

:applause:

heres a preview of the debate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDb0vXD4SAk

Doomsday Dallas
10-22-2020, 08:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYydLBiTJ0

Mar 18, 2016

I watched this video about a week before the 2016 election... that's when I knew Trump was going to win.

This Dan Pena dude is a genius.... top of the pyramid genius.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 08:39 PM
If they are serious about an exchange of ideas the mute button is necessary. If they had it last time they would have done Trump a favor by shutting him up. Trump needs Biden to make a mistake. By not letting him make an uninterrupted point he kept Biden from saying anything he might regret while giving Biden the excuse of "that asshole won't let him talk."

If true the following would bug me if I was a Trump supporter: Trump supposedly did two hours of debate prep. Biden meanwhile had been prepping all week. Even let Obama be the start of thr campaign while he got ready. Trump can't afford to get outworked.

2 hours is all you need. Bring up some points and have counters to your opponent. A week for Biden may be too much information for anyone and he’s old. I forgot what I did for certain clients on Monday and you expect him to know a week’s worth of info?

Nanners
10-22-2020, 08:39 PM
he's gonna snort coke and act like a 10 year old having a fit?

no he said full alex jones... not full hunter biden

Axe
10-22-2020, 08:41 PM
Here they go again.

Real Men Wear Green
10-22-2020, 08:45 PM
2 hours is all you need. Bring up some points and have counters to your opponent. A week for Biden may be too much information for anyone and he’s old. I forgot what I did for certain clients on Monday and you expect him to know a week’s worth of info?
I've been trying to ignore your presence. Please don't make it difficult.

Axe
10-22-2020, 08:47 PM
I've been trying to ignore your presence. Please don't make it difficult.
:oldlol:

Lakers Legend#32
10-22-2020, 09:05 PM
Memo To Trump Campaign: Nobody Gives A Damn About Hunter Biden.

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:08 PM
Memo To Trump Campaign: Nobody Gives A Damn About Hunter Biden.

It's true

Also no one really gives a damn about Joe Biden.

This election is Trump vs Trump

Nanners
10-22-2020, 09:16 PM
Memo To Trump Campaign: Nobody Gives A Damn About Hunter Biden.



The hunter biden stuff is not actually about hunter... its about Joe.

Why did a Ukranian oil company put Hunter Biden (with zero oil experience) on their board of directors and pay him 50k/month? Why did the wife of the mayor of moscow give hunter $3.5m? Why did Joe and Hunter travel together on air force 2 on a trip to China where Hunter was showered with millions of dollars from chinese business interests?

Imagine if the wife of the mayor of moscow gave one of Trumps kids $3.5m... democrats and the media would be going ape shit

TheMan
10-22-2020, 09:17 PM
trump can't speak more than 90 seconds without saying a lie

He caught a break tonight that the moderator won't fact check him in real time :lol

Joe Biden is sharp so far, Trump and the GOP really shot themselves in the foot making him out to be a blabbering catatonic corpse, quick someone drug test Biden!

bobopenguin
10-22-2020, 09:18 PM
The hunter biden stuff is not actually about hunter... its about Joe.

Why did a Ukranian oil company put Hunter Biden (with zero oil experience) on their board of directors and pay him 50k/month? Why did the wife of the mayor of moscow give hunter $3.5m? Why did Joe and Hunter travel together on air force 2 on a trip to China where Hunter was showered with millions of dollars from chinese business interests?

Imagine if the wife of the mayor of moscow gave one of Trumps kids $3.5m... democrats and the media would be going ape shit

some ppl lives in the realm of denial. u cannot reach them.

joe
10-22-2020, 09:25 PM
I think this format is leading to a wonderful debate. It has a very fast pace to it, and both candidates are pleasantly respectful. I am enjoying the back and forth.

diamenz
10-22-2020, 09:27 PM
I think this format is leading to a wonderful debate. It has a very fast pace to it, and both candidates are pleasantly respectful. I am enjoying the back and forth.

enjoy the rest of your day.

bladefd
10-22-2020, 09:27 PM
He caught a break tonight that the moderator won't fact check him in real time :lol

Joe Biden is sharp so far, Trump and the GOP really shot themselves in the foot making him out to be a blabbering catatonic corpse, quick someone drug test Biden!

Biden just has to stay afloat. So far, he looks sharp. Definitely nothing like a braindead old man with dementia & not knowing where he is or how he got there :oldlol:

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:27 PM
Yep, consensus on Twitter is that this is the first actual debate

diamenz
10-22-2020, 09:30 PM
Biden just has to stay afloat. So far, he looks sharp. Definitely nothing like a braindead old man with dementia & not knowing where he is or how he got there :oldlol:

just you wait until the uppers start to wear off. he'll come in for a crash landing in about an hour or so.

you know, the thing.

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:32 PM
Trump has been "under audit" his entire presidency.

TheMan
10-22-2020, 09:35 PM
That Trump audit is gonna go on infinitely, until the end of the universe:lol

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:35 PM
Are ALL his tax years "under audit"?

Fcking release some shit from 3 years ago...

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:42 PM
Farmers don't want to live off of bailouts year after year... even if the money is legit coming from China.

SATAN
10-22-2020, 09:45 PM
Donald Trump legit talks like a little kid sometimes :biggums:

bladefd
10-22-2020, 09:47 PM
just you wait until the uppers start to wear off. he'll come in for a crash landing in about an hour or so.

you know, the thing.

Downers are wearing off for Trump

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 09:53 PM
NO ONE thinks Kamala Harris is "more liberal" than Bernie Sanders :lol

BigKobeFan
10-22-2020, 09:54 PM
Biden being confused. I dont want socialized medicine a sentence before. Now he wants socialized medicine

TheMan
10-22-2020, 10:07 PM
That was a real effective line by Biden, about being a proud Democrat president but most importantly, an American president for all Americans no matter if they are blue or red.

~primetime~
10-22-2020, 10:10 PM
That was a real effective line by Biden, about being a proud Democrat president but most importantly, an American president for all Americans no matter if they are blue or red.

"I don't see red and blue states, I see the United States"

How many times did he say that in front of a mirror before this? lol

It's a good message though... people are tired of the division

imdaman99
10-22-2020, 10:13 PM
I don't understand how that line that no one has done more for the black community than Donald Trump doesn't get him into trouble. The fact that he said maybe perhaps Lincoln, and that's a big maybe. I don't know if he's trolling anymore.

TheMan
10-22-2020, 10:15 PM
"I don't see red and blue states, I see the United States"

How many times did he say that in front of a mirror before this? lol

It's a good message though... people are tired of the division
Yeah, especially right after Trump was railing against Democratic states.

ZenMaster
10-22-2020, 10:17 PM
If Trump was yelling like Biden, you'd be calling him crazy.

SATAN
10-22-2020, 10:20 PM
If Trump was yelling like Biden, you'd be calling him crazy.

Huh? Yelling?

bladefd
10-22-2020, 10:32 PM
Trump is done.

Joe Biden will be an interesting president.

Many American voters watch the debates, and they will see Biden looks nothing like a guy with dementia or amnesia that Trump campaign was trying to push since March. Trump is finished.

Pushxx
10-22-2020, 10:43 PM
To me Joe is really not sharp and Trump did a great job in this debate

TheMan
10-22-2020, 10:44 PM
Many American voters watch the debates, and they will see Biden looks nothing like a guy with dementia or amnesia that Trump campaign was trying to push since March. Trump is finished.
Trump did well for himself too, looked like a normal POTUS for the most part, nothing like the madman from the last debate. But no knockout punch by any of the two and according to the polls, Trump needed one or a major gaffe by Biden to change the trajectory of this race.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 10:49 PM
Trump hands down dominated after a loss in the first debate due to interruption. The strategy here is to let Biden talk about his pipe dreams such as building one million homes to get rid of gas energy.

He thought Trump was Lincoln. Lol

He can’t think. A lot of long pauses and squinting for a thought. He’s done.

No real policies as usual from Biden. Trump doesn’t go in specifics either but he has his accomplishments and track record to go against.

Biden is not the one to beat Trump.

Republic congress. Go convince them Joe! Lol

I felt sorry for joe tonight. He really should be retired and not run.

AngelEyes
10-22-2020, 10:52 PM
I consider myself a moderate and I do not align myself with either party. I thought Biden won the first debate and came across better to the public, today I think Trump won.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 10:55 PM
Joe said and paraphrasing....we clap for the first responders but we need to help them out in regards to minimum wage. I don’t know any first responders making minimum wage.

When talking about federal minimum wage....Joe goes we must help businesses by raising minimum wage. Wtf.

Jasper
10-22-2020, 10:55 PM
remember when Trump said stand down and stand back -
Trump proved that by disclosing that prior to his presidency , he had accounts in China , then closed them.
So if he loses the election , I will not doubt he will reopen accounts in China....

Such a two face fvcker...

Jasper
10-22-2020, 10:58 PM
Joe said and paraphrasing....we clap for the first responders but we need to help them out in regards to minimum wage. I don’t know any first responders making minimum wage.

When talking about federal minimum wage....Joe goes we must help businesses by raising minimum wage. Wtf.

Small communities such as mine , are low income

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 10:59 PM
remember when Trump said stand down and stand back -
Trump proved that by disclosing that prior to his presidency , he had accounts in China , then closed them.
So if he loses the election , I will not doubt he will reopen accounts in China....

Such a two face fvcker...

If he loses the election then is he not a businessman if he decides to do business in other countries?

I don’t think you know what two face means.

It would be two face for him to open an account as President.

Jasper
10-22-2020, 10:59 PM
I consider myself a moderate and I do not align myself with either party. I thought Biden won the first debate and came across better to the public, today I think Trump won.

how do you vote ??
My neighbor lost his wife 2 days ago , due to cvd19 ... how do you think he will vote ??

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:01 PM
Small communities such as mine , are low income

I live in high income $15 is nothing for me but great for you.

How can you be so selfish.

Should my state decide accordingly and yours as well? That is fair don’t you think?

Jasper
10-22-2020, 11:02 PM
If he loses the election then is he not a businessman if he decides to do business in other countries?

I don’t think you know what two face means.

It would be two face for him to open an account as President.
My point is last 3 1/2 years he has disliked (hated) China , yet he was sleeping with them... prior to his presidency...
come on - put 2 and 2 together

jstern
10-22-2020, 11:03 PM
remember when Trump said stand down and stand back -
Trump proved that by disclosing that prior to his presidency , he had accounts in China , then closed them.
So if he loses the election , I will not doubt he will reopen accounts in China....

Such a two face fvcker...

There's actually nothing wrong with his company having an account in China when exploring to expand his business over there. It's a requirement and thousand of companies have it. Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook. And then closing it when nothing materialized.

If that outraged you, then imagine the whole Hunter Biden China controversy that most Americans haven't heard about as of today.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:03 PM
how do you vote ??
My neighbor lost his wife 2 days ago , due to cvd19 ... how do you think he will vote ??

Depends on what state you guys live in.

Did the state Governor lockdown?

bobopenguin
10-22-2020, 11:04 PM
how do you vote ??
My neighbor lost his wife 2 days ago , due to cvd19 ... how do you think he will vote ??

if by now u still not convinced china is behind this pandemic, and china has biden under leash and still wanna vote for biden, then u gotta question ur own iq.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:04 PM
My point is last 3 1/2 years he has disliked (hated) China , yet he was sleeping with them... prior to his presidency...
come on - put 2 and 2 together

My enemies spend money too.

Actually I get more joy ripping them off.

TheMan
10-22-2020, 11:07 PM
if by now u still not convinced china is behind this pandemic, and china has biden under leash and still wanna vote for biden, then u gotta question ur own iq.

Uhmm, what?

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:13 PM
A poised and confident Trump will destroy anyone. This is the Trump his detractors don’t want to see. He’s a businessman that does million dollar deals. He will call Joe out.

For reals though Joe has been in public office for a long time and never got anything done where Trump is a workaholic egomaniac. Put those together and you have a recipe for success.

bladefd
10-22-2020, 11:20 PM
Trump did well for himself too, looked like a normal POTUS for the most part, nothing like the madman from the last debate. But no knockout punch by any of the two and according to the polls, Trump needed one or a major gaffe by Biden to change the trajectory of this race.

Yeah, both had good debate today, which is not good for Trump. Biden has built a massive lead with turnout breaking records (48mill early votes already as of tonight* and double digit lead in polls beyond anything Hillary had 2 weeks before election day). Trump is playing catchup and trying to sell Biden as a guy with dementia+amnesia. It's not working and there will not be another debate.

* https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:22 PM
if by now u still not convinced china is behind this pandemic, and china has biden under leash and still wanna vote for biden, then u gotta question ur own iq.

Liberals don’t have low IQs but they are easily manipulated and lied to. They have been lied to by their party for so many times now but they are still loyal. It’s not their fault and they don’t have low IQs. Manipulation is very hard to detect especially when someone you trust are the one’s doing it.

We just have to come together as Americans and unite everyone. Trump for the most part is exposing these frauds and I think voting trump is the proverbial F Unto the establishment.

It’s the only way. Sadly we have to convince them to do so and it’s hard.

Luka Doncic
10-22-2020, 11:30 PM
Yeah, both had good debate today, which is not good for Trump. Biden has built a massive lead with turnout breaking records (48mill early votes already as of tonight* and double digit lead in polls beyond anything Hillary had 2 weeks before election day). Trump is playing catchup and trying to sell Biden as a guy with dementia+amnesia. It's not working and there will not be another debate.

* https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

Remember in 2016 when the polls lied to you?

You have a forgivable heart.

I followed polls closely in 2016 but called it fake because of the amount of people at the Trump rallies. I was lied to.

I have never paid attention to any polls this time around.

bladefd
10-23-2020, 12:02 AM
Remember in 2016 when the polls lied to you?

You have a forgivable heart.

I followed polls closely in 2016 but called it fake because of the amount of people at the Trump rallies. I was lied to.

I have never paid attention to any polls this time around.

How about historic turnout? Is that fake too? 58mill people total did early voting in 2016 - this time is 48.5mill and still out 12 days out from election day

dude77
10-23-2020, 03:42 AM
easy win for trump .. biden fkd himself with that oil comment .. absolutely fkd himself .. that was the worst possible shit he could've said with the rust belt watching(which is what is going to decide this race) .. horrible horrible mistake by biden .. and then when he challenged trump to post a video of biden saying he was against fracking .. biden denying he said that when I'm sure he remembered saying it multiple times .. and then trump posts the video shortly after the debate completely eviscerating biden .. also he said he wasn't against fracking but proceeds to say he wants to end oil .. way to go joe :)


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319466667676749824

dude77
10-23-2020, 04:07 AM
this is the better edited clip .. he says 'I"ll put it on' and then the quick cut to biden clips .. well done


https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1319474222306045954

coin24
10-23-2020, 05:31 AM
How about historic turnout? Is that fake too? 58mill people total did early voting in 2016 - this time is 48.5mill and still out 12 days out from election day


Will you ever wake up to yourself? Or just roll along with the next narrative the media shoves into your pea brain?

CelticBaller
10-23-2020, 06:03 AM
Media saying Biden won, the trumptards saying trump won

I actually think nobody won. Another debate where Trump tried to swing a haymaker and Biden manage to avoid any knockout punches. Only difference between this one and the other was that Trump didn’t land on his ass

Real Men Wear Green
10-23-2020, 07:58 AM
There might be a negative effect on Biden in Texas for taking about transition from oil. Otherwise for him the debate was fine. Having to defend on the hunter Biden stuff fristrated him personally but I don't think that is going to change minds. The oil comments are the only real ammunition he gave Trump.

diamenz
10-23-2020, 08:20 AM
trump had me rollin' when he questioned whether or not joe was the "big man".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1HXyaZ1qeA

"you're the big man, i think... i dunno, maybe you're not". :roll:

what a character, that trump.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 08:58 AM
Media saying Biden won, the trumptards saying trump won

I actually think nobody won. Another debate where Trump tried to swing a haymaker and Biden manage to avoid any knockout punches. Only difference between this one and the other was that Trump didn’t land on his ass

So media says Biden won lol and Trump supporters aside he won but what did Biden “supporters” say? Not a damn thing. They know he loss the debate.

CelticBaller
10-23-2020, 09:02 AM
So media says Biden won lol and Trump supporters aside he won but what did Biden “supporters” say? Not a damn thing. They know he loss the debate.

If you want to hear what Biden supporters think go to r/politics and you would find out. Ps; they unanimously think he won

Also getting real foreigner vibes from you. If you don’t vote or pay taxes get the **** out of these threads

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 09:36 AM
I will be posting pictures of who I will vote for soon.

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 10:29 AM
easy win for trump .. biden fkd himself with that oil comment .. absolutely fkd himself .. that was the worst possible shit he could've said with the rust belt watching(which is what is going to decide this race) .. horrible horrible mistake by biden .. and then when he challenged trump to post a video of biden saying he was against fracking .. biden denying he said that when I'm sure he remembered saying it multiple times .. and then trump posts the video shortly after the debate completely eviscerating biden .. also he said he wasn't against fracking but proceeds to say he wants to end oil .. way to go joe :)


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319466667676749824

I missed the debate. The only time I really spend talking about politics is on ISH. But I heard Biden looked tired towards the end of the debate. Like he was running out of energy.

And this guy wants to run a country? He wants to hold SOTU addresses that last for over an hour?? :oldlol:

CelticBaller
10-23-2020, 10:52 AM
Snall dick energy vibes too

Yup, I wonder who’s alt is that. Manny’s?

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 10:54 AM
How do all you Trump haters feel knowing you're going to lose again? I mean, save some face this time around and support Trump and maybe you'll turn your lives around and stop swallowing L's like the champs you are.

BigKobeFan
10-23-2020, 11:04 AM
How do all you Trump haters feel knowing you're going to lose again? I mean, save some face this time around and support Trump and maybe you'll turn your lives around and stop swallowing L's like the champs you are.

If they stopped swallowing, all they got left is their unemployment, their moms basement, and ish

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:06 AM
Yup, I wonder who’s alt is that. Manny’s?

I'm not an alt but I was a big time player on here that's why I won't reveal who I am. It will change the game.

I haven't been on this site for 4 years and decided to come back for election year and then I'm off.

I pretty much ran the place during my 6 years here before the hiatus and controlled conversation on here.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:07 AM
So media says Biden won lol and Trump supporters aside he won but what did Biden “supporters” say? Not a damn thing. They know he loss the debate.

That's not entirely true.



(CNN)Joe Biden did a better job in the final debate on Thursday, according to a CNN Instant Poll of debate watchers. Overall, 53% of voters who watched the debate said that Biden won the matchup, while 39% said that President Donald Trump did.

Viewers once again said that Biden's criticisms of Trump were largely fair (73% said they were fair, 26% unfair), and they split over whether Trump's attacks on Biden were fair (50% said yes, 49% no).

That's a more positive outcome for Trump. In a CNN Instant Poll after the first presidential debate, just 28% said they thought the President had won the debate, and 67% called his criticism of Biden unfair.


All told, though, the debate did not do much to move impressions of either candidate. Favorable views of Biden before the debate stood at 55%, and they held steady at 56% in post-debate interviews. Likewise, Trump's numbers held steady, with 42% saying they had a favorable view of the President in interviews conducted before Thursday's debate and 41% saying the same afterward.

More debate watchers, though, said Trump's performance raised concerns about how he would handle the presidency (55%) than did Biden's (41%).

Thursday's debate watchers preferred Trump over Biden on the economy (56% say they think Trump would better handle it vs. 44% who say Biden would), and divided about evenly between the two on foreign policy (50% prefer Biden, 48% Trump). Biden held a wide edge as more trusted to handle the coronavirus (57% Biden to 41% Trump), climate change (67% Biden to 29% Trump) and racial inequality in the US (62% Biden to 35% Trump).

Biden was also largely seen as offering a better plan for solving the country's problems (54% Biden to 42% Trump), and voters split over who seemed to be the stronger leader (49% each).

Although Thursday's event was far less contentious than the first presidential debate, Biden was far more apt to be seen as directly answering the moderator's questions (62% said he did, 31% said Trump).

Women were more likely than men to say that Biden did the better job in the debate (60% of women said Biden won, 35% Trump, while among men, 47% said Biden won, 44% said Trump did). Independents also largely felt Biden won (55% Biden to 36% Trump), as did moderates (56% Biden to 37% Trump) and White voters with college degrees (64% Biden to 29% Trump). Among those 65 and older -- a group backing Biden in greater numbers than they did Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to most polls -- the verdict was a split decision, with 46% saying Biden won, 43% Trump and 10% saying they both did equally well. Younger voters broadly saw Biden as the winner, 66%, to 27% for Trump among those under age 45.

You Trump supporters thought he won the first debate too when in reality his polls numbers took a hard dive afterwards so...

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:09 AM
That's not entirely true.



You Trump supporters thought he won the first debate too when in reality his polls numbers took a hard dive afterwards so...

I thought he slightly loss the first one but he came back and dominated this debate.

I am a Trump supporter and can admit he loss the first one but can you admit he destroyed Biden here?

BigKobeFan
10-23-2020, 11:13 AM
That's not entirely true.



You Trump supporters thought he won the first debate too when in reality his polls numbers took a hard dive afterwards so...

Cnn. What a dumb ****

CelticBaller
10-23-2020, 11:15 AM
I'm not an alt but I was a big time player on here that's why I won't reveal who I am. It will change the game.

I haven't been on this site for 4 years and decided to come back for election year and then I'm off.

I pretty much ran the place during my 6 years here before the hiatus and controlled conversation on here.

Cringe vibes, might need to sound the alarm soon

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:18 AM
Cringe vibes, might need to sound the alarm soon

I love cringes.

It means I somehow touched your heart.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:23 AM
I thought he slightly loss the first one but he came back and dominated this debate.

I am a Trump supporter and can admit he loss the first one but can you admit he destroyed Biden here?

I just said a page ago that Trump did well in my opinion. He acted more presidential and did get some good shots in, as did Biden too. Biden's biggest mistake as I saw it was in the final segment about oil and Trump calling Biden out that he has said he wants to end fracking/transition to clean energy, that won't play well in oil states...Biden also got in a good shot when Trump was ranting about blue states and Biden reminded everyone that he wouldn't distinguish between red and blue states because we are all Americans first and foremost, that plays well to a huge part of the electorate sick and tired of the divisiveness. It wasn't a rout by either candidate IMO but obviously if you like Trump coming in, his debate won't make you stop supporting him, same with Biden...

Trump isn't entirely out of the race though, the POTUS is not a national vote race and he can still eek out an electoral college win but covid19 cases are surging and that's the number one issue rn and that isn't helpful for his cause. Also the huge turnout, if they are millions of white working class voters who didn't vote last time, then he's in the game, but if they're energized Democrats who sat out last time, he could potentially lose big...guess we'll just have to sit back and see what happens.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:33 AM
Cnn. What a dumb ****

CNN posted a poll of debate watchers from the first one that was decidedly for Biden too and Trump's poll numbers subsequently fell across the board, including from right leaning pollsters like Rasmussen and Fox News...

Keep up, dolt.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-trump-gains-in-ohio-biden-ahead-in-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin.amp

Fox News poll...fake too I guess.

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 11:34 AM
CNN posted a poll of debate watchers from the first one that was decidedly for Biden too and Trump's poll numbers fell across the board, including from right leaning pollsters like Rasmussen and Fox News.

Keep up, dolt.

Why do you believe these poll numbers? Was 2016 not enough proof that polls are meaningless?

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:42 AM
These guys are battered housewives. They were lied to once and still believe the polls.

Like I said...I followed the polls religiously in 2016 but knew something was wrong since I watched every Trump rally after work and he had a tremendous following. Trump won and I was lied to.

2020...I have not followed a poll since 2016. I don't even know what the polls are saying.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:43 AM
Why do you believe these poll numbers? Was 2016 not enough proof that polls are meaningless?

You say they are meaningless, I say 2016 was an outlier.

We shall see whose right.

If Trump wins, I will agree with you that polls aren't worth shit, if Biden wins, then you agree with me that 2016 was an outlier, ok?

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:43 AM
You say they are meaningless, I say 2016 was an outlier.

We shall see whose right.

If Trump wins, I will agree with you that polls aren't worth shit, if Biden wins, then you agree with me that 2016 was an outlier, ok?

You agreed to leave in 2016.

We allow.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:45 AM
These guys are battered housewives. They were lied to once and still believe the polls.

Like I said...I followed the polls religiously in 2016 but knew something was wrong since I watched every Trump rally after work and he had a tremendous following. Trump won and I was lied to.

2020...I have not followed a poll since 2016. I don't even know what the polls are saying.
Then you'll never run a campaign, every campaign hires pollsters to determine where they can win, where they don't have a shot so as not to spend on ad money and where they need to shore up support. No campaign ever runs without watching the polls, haha

TheMan
10-23-2020, 11:47 AM
You agreed to leave in 2016.

We allow.

My bet was with Nick Young and not with anyone else, including you, after he won I stopped posting, he asked for those who lost to come back, so I did. If he wouldn't have asked, I would've respected our bet. I had a permaban bet with Chewing but we changed it for an avy bet, I don't want him to leave, nor any of you Trump supporters. We need more posters, not less, this is a dying board as it is.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 11:49 AM
Then you'll never run a campaign, every campaign hires pollsters to determine where they can win, where they don't have a shot so as not to spend on ad money and where they need to shore up support. No campaign ever runs without watching the polls, haha

You're only posting on ISH because we allow.

Anyways, I get robo text messages from Bernie and Biden campaign and other local races in the past. I always told them I'm voting for their guy so they can stop texting me and it works.

I then vote for my guy. Just saying.

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 11:49 AM
You say they are meaningless, I say 2016 was an outlier.

We shall see whose right.

If Trump wins, I will agree with you that polls aren't worth shit, if Biden wins, then you agree with me that 2016 was an outlier, ok?

What do you mean outlier? Do you not have cable television in Chihuahua? Do you not see the rallies for Trump? Do you not see how Biden never holds a rally of that size?


And besides, more people are afraid to vocalize their support for Trump in 2020 than in 2016 due to cancel culture. So believing polls is downright foolish.

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 11:51 AM
I'm not afraid to vocalize my support for Trump though. I welcome confrontation. I welcome the need to unholster my sidearm.

TheMan
10-23-2020, 12:05 PM
I'm not afraid to vocalize my support for Trump though. I welcome confrontation. I welcome the need to unholster my sidearm.
Why would anyone be afraid to vocalize their support for Trump when you can remain anonymous over the phone?

tpols
10-23-2020, 12:10 PM
My bet was with Nick Young and not with anyone else, including you, after he won I stopped posting, he asked for those who lost to come back, so I did. If he wouldn't have asked, I would've respected our bet. I had a permaban bet with Chewing but we changed it for an avy bet, I don't want him to leave, nor any of you Trump supporters. We need more posters, not less, this is a dying board as it is.

Did you really just admit that you only post on ISH because another grown man gave you permission to do so?

:lol :facepalm

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 12:10 PM
Why would anyone be afraid to vocalize their support for Trump when you can remain anonymous over the phone?

I don't know why you spew your garbage because I know you are going to do what's right and vote Trump.

You vote for Biden you will never be able to live with yourself.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 12:11 PM
Did you really just admit that you only post on ISH because another grown man gave you permission to do so?

:lol :facepalm

I was the one to tell Nick to allow them back. It's better for our egos.

We allow.

senelcoolidge
10-23-2020, 12:17 PM
Biden got destroyed. What was up with his eyes? He's obviously on something and he was wearing down, he was even looking at his watch.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 12:19 PM
are u nick young? no wonder you reek of fakkitry

Naw.

I respect him too much to pretend to be him.

He's a good guy. I like him and he likes me.

RRR3
10-23-2020, 12:53 PM
are u nick young? no wonder you reek of fakkitry
No he’s MsButthurt/kennypowers/smellypooter

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 01:11 PM
No he’s MsButthurt/kennypowers/smellypooter

and you're ugly.
https://cdn.statically.io/img/www.crushpixel.com/static7/preview2/funny-man-with-curly-hair-156333.jpg

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 01:18 PM
and you're ugly.
https://cdn.statically.io/img/www.crushpixel.com/static7/preview2/funny-man-with-curly-hair-156333.jpg

https://media0.giphy.com/media/gjaDUH3UfNnZn2stvY/giphy.gif


https://i.ibb.co/Jnq4zh6/4EoGOxT.jpg

bladefd
10-23-2020, 02:07 PM
Will you ever wake up to yourself? Or just roll along with the next narrative the media shoves into your pea brain?

52 million early votes. At this pace, early voting numbers will pass all of 2016's mail-in-ballots by tomorrow morning. 11 days before election day.

Look for yourself: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

bladefd
10-23-2020, 02:13 PM
There might be a negative effect on Biden in Texas for taking about transition from oil. Otherwise for him the debate was fine. Having to defend on the hunter Biden stuff fristrated him personally but I don't think that is going to change minds. The oil comments are the only real ammunition he gave Trump.

Solar is actually the cheapest form of energy. Cheaper than coal/oil and even natural gas
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp34372005/solar-cheapest-energy-ever/

Trump is a garbage businessman if he would rather spend more money on a source of energy like coal/oil/natural gas that is more expensive than solar. Wind is also coming down in cost each year and looking very useful for off-shore wind farms generating consistent electricity and it allowing massive wind turbines out on the ocean.

dn41
10-23-2020, 02:14 PM
52 million early votes. At this pace, early voting numbers will pass all of 2016's mail-in-ballots by tomorrow morning. 11 days before election day.

Look for yourself: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

yeah Biden is going to win.. the only question is how big.
I almost feel sorry for all the poor delusional trumpets :yaohappy:

ZenMaster
10-23-2020, 02:17 PM
Why would anyone be afraid to vocalize their support for Trump when you can remain anonymous over the phone?

Well someone had your personal details to begin with, so the potential of connecting a political opinion to that information wherever it sits, is something a lot of people don't want to take a chance with today.

~primetime~
10-23-2020, 02:56 PM
USC Dornslife/LA Times, which is the ONLY pollster to predict a Trump win in 2016, did actually report that many conservatives were ashamed to say they support Trump.

can be seen here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

they claim that they have adjusted for that...they have Biden +11...can be seen here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

ZenMaster
10-23-2020, 03:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So6UQErfbMc&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=AmyAdams

TheMan
10-23-2020, 04:19 PM
Did you really just admit that you only post on ISH because another grown man gave you permission to do so?

:lol :facepalm

You wouldn't talk to me like that IRL, but to quote that magnificent bastard Luka Doncic...I will allow.

It's more manly to face the music from Trumptards than it is to run away, and I put on my big boy pants and owned up to the fact that I was wrong. You better not run off into the wilderness after Trump loses because I'm going to be extra brutal to you, you flunky.

Prepareth thy anus.

RRR3
10-23-2020, 04:29 PM
You wouldn't talk to me like that IRL, but to quote that magnificent bastard Luka Doncic...I will allow.

It's more manly to face the music from Trumptards than it is to run away, and I put on my big boy pants and owned up to the fact that I was wrong. You better not run off into the wilderness after Trump loses because I'm going to be extra brutal to you, you flunky.

Prepareth thy anus.
LukaDoncic is msbottoms bro

Mr. Woke
10-23-2020, 04:30 PM
Trump got destroyed.

I'm so glad that I voted for Biden instead of the Trumpster Fire.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 04:33 PM
LukaDoncic is msbottoms bro

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQHEM8Q3kxa9V3pSoeQkj00xLpKVvY C496-cA&usqp=CAU
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-2080020-0EEE443F00000578-537_306x423.jpg
https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/523/754/1600/movietickets4.jpg

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 04:40 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQHEM8Q3kxa9V3pSoeQkj00xLpKVvY C496-cA&usqp=CAU
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/30/article-2080020-0EEE443F00000578-537_306x423.jpg
https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/523/754/1600/movietickets4.jpg

https://urbaneskimo.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/2009-06-13-17-15-171.jpg?w=660

RRR3
10-23-2020, 04:48 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/85f5556898f77c3d60fa48ab08d4e314/tenor.gif

It’s time for a diet.

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 04:50 PM
It’s time for a diet.

You and that deuce guy are our whipping boys and forever will be. It never gets old.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSDMPCTx0zFm_P2bDkQ2G9IKZDmBpp dLg68mg&usqp=CAU
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0SNs-ksMw4U/hqdefault.jpg

Patrick Chewing
10-23-2020, 04:53 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pRHGlCjCRbI/hqdefault.jpg

Luka Doncic
10-23-2020, 05:01 PM
It’s time for a diet.

You deserve everything that comes at you for taking advantage of people with a mental disorder. You would take advantage of transgenders due to their vulnerability just to get laid.

tpols
10-23-2020, 05:17 PM
You wouldn't talk to me like that IRL, but to quote that magnificent bastard Luka Doncic...I will allow.

It's more manly to face the music from Trumptards than it is to run away, and I put on my big boy pants and owned up to the fact that I was wrong. You better not run off into the wilderness after Trump loses because I'm going to be extra brutal to you, you flunky.

Prepareth thy anus.

I dont care if Trump loses lol... I stand to gain more from Biden's policies. But if Trump wins I wouldn't mind it either because that's 4 more years of quality entertainment.

Real Men Wear Green
10-23-2020, 07:09 PM
Solar is actually the cheapest form of energy. Cheaper than coal/oil and even natural gas
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/amp34372005/solar-cheapest-energy-ever/

Trump is a garbage businessman if he would rather spend more money on a source of energy like coal/oil/natural gas that is more expensive than solar. Wind is also coming down in cost each year and looking very useful for off-shore wind farms generating consistent electricity and it allowing massive wind turbines out on the ocean.

I wasn't talking about the benefits of alternative energy. I am just talking about the potentially negative impact on voting.

RRR3
10-23-2020, 07:27 PM
You and that deuce guy are our whipping boys and forever will be. It never gets old.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSDMPCTx0zFm_P2bDkQ2G9IKZDmBpp dLg68mg&usqp=CAU
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0SNs-ksMw4U/hqdefault.jpg
Deuce hasn’t posted in years and you’re still thinking about him. Eeyikes. Way to expose the fact that you’re some old poster trolling on alts, msbottoms.

Manny98
10-23-2020, 08:11 PM
Biden got destroyed :lol

BigKobeFan
10-23-2020, 08:25 PM
I dont care if Trump loses lol... I stand to gain more from Biden's policies. But if Trump wins I wouldn't mind it either because that's 4 more years of quality entertainment.

Wait rrr ****s trannies? And theman ****s his cousin.

The two dumbest posters on here have some serious mental disorders

bladefd
10-23-2020, 08:53 PM
I wasn't talking about the benefits of alternative energy. I am just talking about the potentially negative impact on voting.

I'm just saying Democrats need to do a better job of making a case for clean energy. They can completely corner and destroy the Republican party's platform on energy, but they don't. I think part of the reason is these politicians don't have any science understanding - it's outside of their field of expertise, which tends to be law or business or political science.

dude77
10-23-2020, 09:06 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dark_Winter


https://i.postimg.cc/c6Gn1gW7/1603481118810.jpg

DoctorP
10-23-2020, 09:11 PM
That was a legendary contemporary debate.

A muzzled Trump had Biden on the ropes at one point, destroying his entire credibility with the people and all of a sudden Biden got a second wind and proceeded to knock out Trump using the republicans weak point: the environment


Biden took down the Don.


Perfect moderation. Well done by nbc and that moderator.

Prime nbc presentation!!!

Axe
10-23-2020, 09:16 PM
No shave november for the upcoming election.

dude77
10-23-2020, 09:56 PM
That was a legendary contemporary debate.

A muzzled Trump had Biden on the ropes at one point, destroying his entire credibility with the people and all of a sudden Biden got a second wind and proceeded to knock out Trump using the republicans weak point: the environment


Biden took down the Don.


Perfect moderation. Well done by nbc and that moderator.

Prime nbc presentation!!!


must've missed the oil comment

jstern
10-23-2020, 10:33 PM
That was a legendary contemporary debate.

A muzzled Trump had Biden on the ropes at one point, destroying his entire credibility with the people and all of a sudden Biden got a second wind and proceeded to knock out Trump using the republicans weak point: the environment


Biden took down the Don.


Perfect moderation. Well done by nbc and that moderator.

Prime nbc presentation!!!

So one issue, the environment, and suddenly Bidden is ok? It doesn't matter that the big guy Bidden is corrupt, his middle man son Hunter Biden, a drug addict with no experience getting paid $10,000,000 a year by China for a job of introductions? Do you think they were just paying him that for no reason, expectations? Do you think someone like Bidden would not screw Americans here and there to pay them back?

You're a smart poster. I don't think one issue alone, the environment, should suddenly erase all the other factors.

It's like having a criminal knock people out, set things on fire, rob people, but today he was polite and wearing a nice sweater.

TheMan
10-24-2020, 03:10 AM
Wait rrr ****s trannies? And theman ****s his cousin.

The two dumbest posters on here have some serious mental disorders
https://i.gifer.com/avf.gif
Meh, you're boring, not even worth getting riled up over.

Mr. Woke
10-24-2020, 10:10 AM
Trump got embarrassed bigly.

BigKobeFan
10-24-2020, 12:30 PM
https://i.gifer.com/avf.gif
Meh, you're boring, not even worth getting riled up over.

You are shook. You wont even meet patrick for a fight you incel

DoctorP
10-24-2020, 03:11 PM
So one issue, the environment, and suddenly Bidden is ok? It doesn't matter that the big guy Bidden is corrupt, his middle man son Hunter Biden, a drug addict with no experience getting paid $10,000,000 a year by China for a job of introductions? Do you think they were just paying him that for no reason, expectations? Do you think someone like Bidden would not screw Americans here and there to pay them back?

You're a smart poster. I don't think one issue alone, the environment, should suddenly erase all the other factors.

It's like having a criminal knock people out, set things on fire, rob people, but today he was polite and wearing a nice sweater.

Yes, my friend, I will try to explain it as best I can. Trump hit Biden hard on past record and credibility. Biden owned up to it by saying he made mistakes. With his son, Biden denied everything just like Trump denied Russian hoax so that was slightly even, id give the edge to Trump still at that point.

But for those that believe there is a formidable crisis with climate change, the same ol republican big business approach of the oil companies seems out of touch and backwards when global trends have been going to renewable energy and emissions free energy in every way.

The Republican agenda is out of touch on this and theres nothing king don can say to hide this huge whole in his game.

If the republicans fail to win the presidency they need to embrace science and the trends towards new energy. No ifs and buts about it.

Biden may not be the business mind trump is but his position there makes him the right choice for Americans.

Nanners
10-25-2020, 06:59 AM
Who built the cages joe? :oldlol:

DoctorP
10-25-2020, 03:37 PM
Who built the cages joe? :oldlol:

Classic.

Trumps an absolute living legend and a gifted mudslinger.

It's a shame his party is tone def to science.

TheMan
10-25-2020, 04:53 PM
You are shook. You wont even meet patrick for a fight you incel

We never agreed to a face to face. idiot.

You don't want these hands, I'll manhandle you quite easily too, classic dimwit keyboard warrior.

Mr. Woke
10-25-2020, 05:11 PM
Classic.

Trumps an absolute living legend and a gifted mudslinger.

It's a shame his party is tone def to science.

Lol at thinking that Trump is a legend!

How does his ass taste?

DoctorP
10-25-2020, 06:38 PM
Lol at thinking that Trump is a legend!

How does his ass taste?


Oh yes absolutely a legend. He was hated by the entire establishment and shrugged it off with style.

Obama and Trump. Two legendary presidents that will not be forgotten any time soon.

DoctorP
10-25-2020, 06:42 PM
Funny enough, trump was able to keep himself in the mouths and minds of his enemies so much that he has traumatized them with bitterness. A master disruptive force.

Very sad to see the bitter hate from people. I feel for em.

Axe
10-25-2020, 07:31 PM
Lol at thinking that Trump is a legend!

How does his ass taste?
Maybe by "legend", it meant trump being a myth.

Jailblazers7
10-25-2020, 11:26 PM
Who built the cages joe? :oldlol:

So because Obama had bad immigration policies Trump gets a pass for even worse ones? Obama built the cages but Trump is the one that used & abused them. I get that its all about mudslinging and both sidesing everything but these types of one liners from Trump feel pretty pointless.

SATAN
10-26-2020, 12:33 AM
So because Obama had bad immigration policies Trump gets a pass for even worse ones? Obama built the cages but Trump is the one that used & abused them. I get that its all about mudslinging and both sidesing everything but these types of one liners from Trump feel pretty pointless.

Not if you're an alt right incel conspiracy theorist like Nanners...

DoctorP
10-26-2020, 04:24 PM
So because Obama had bad immigration policies Trump gets a pass for even worse ones? Obama built the cages but Trump is the one that used & abused them. I get that its all about mudslinging and both sidesing everything but these types of one liners from Trump feel pretty pointless.


Good point but the right wing is tough on immigration, thats a given, dems cant be acting holier than thou when building the structures that the right then utilize properly.

Trump puts the blame on the illegal immigrants, period

CelticBaller
10-26-2020, 04:39 PM
Good point but the right wing is tough on immigration, thats a given, dems cant be acting holier than thou when building the structures that the right then utilize properly.

Trump puts the blame on the illegal immigrants, period
I don’t remember Obama saying he wasn’t going to be tough on immigration. The main problem between both administrations is Obama provided a pathway for residency/citizenship which republicans hate

DoctorP
10-26-2020, 06:10 PM
I don’t remember Obama saying he wasn’t going to be tough on immigration. The main problem between both administrations is Obama provided a pathway for residency/citizenship which republicans hate

There are some policy hangups with catch and release between both sides. Its all about terrorism protection at this point. Anywhoo, poor kids. Its not their fault.