LeBron made a lot of people stop watching and has cratered ratings

[3ball]

It isn't just him stacking the deck - his team-hopping lessened the quality of basketball because short-term mercenary teamwork is nowhere near the organic teamwork/strategy of prior eras

The days where fans could witness the highest quality strategy, chemistry and brand of basketball are gone because lebron replaced organic teams with team-hopping - he brought the same talented-based winning that lost the 04' and 06' international games to the modern NBA

[Mr. Woke]

3ball still on suicide watch lol!

[3ball]

3ball still on suicide watch lol!

You guys are dumb for not realizing that you don't watch the best brand of basketball

You're watching talent-based winning, aka the same brand that lost the 04' Olympics

Carry on in stupidity tho

[TheCorporation]

Hang in there 3ball

[3ball]

Hang in there 3ball

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba

You're the one watching inferiority and thinking it's good..

So you're the dummy

[Ben Simmons]

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba


:roll:

You dont have to lie. Your post history is not only on here but you post such insane tripe it's noticeable on other forums lol

[GrayGoat]

It’s a pandemic. Basketball is only a thing right now BECAUSE of LeBron.

[Roundball_Rock]

LeBron is the reason ratings tanked for the NHL, MLB, golf, the Kentucky Derby, etc. too. :mad:

[Kblaze8855]

Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

[TheGoatest]

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba


So you admit that your many posts about today's NBA (such as this one) have not been thought through. Well, that's good. I guess...

[3ball]

So you admit that your many posts about today's NBA (such as this one) have not been thought through. Well, that's good. I guess...

What is there to think through? - it's a simple fact

short-term mercenary chemistry is nowhere near the organic chemistry of prior eras, so today's fan is robbed of the highest quality teamwork and strategy, aka brand of ball

Lebron simply ruined the game with his "decision" to seek talent-based winning over developing the best brand of basketball

[tpols]

Bingo.

I'm probably done with the NBA pretty much. It's WWF without the great promos.

It's a joke.

[tpols]

Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

Whether you agree with his sanity or not the fella is 1000% on point.

[Gohan]

Whether you agree with his sanity or not the fella is 1000% on point.

Agreed but kblaze never comes for lebron stans but if you hate on lebron he’ll right an essay about it

[Kblaze8855]

Whether you agree with his sanity or not the fella is 1000% on point.

He thinks Steph Curry couldn’t make the nba in the 70s. You just let agreeing on Lebron issues blind you to his all around insanity. This:




he wouldn't make the league in the 70's... I don't even think he'd be a ballplayer at all back then



Is not an opinion you get from a real basketball fan.

[dbugz]

27% strong :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

Agreed but kblaze never comes for lebron stans but if you hate on lebron he’ll right an essay about it

You of all people(you know I know who you are) know he’s a clown if only for Steph related arguments. But Lebron so annoys some of you that all one needs to do is hate on him for you to pretend you can’t see insanity at the base of it.

[Gohan]

Who am I then? Not insulting you just saying

[Roundball_Rock]

Who am I then? Not insulting you just saying

We all know you are one of Warriorfan's accounts. :lol You and Coach/Samurai (and his other 20 accounts) make it extremely obvious.

All this faux concern from LeBron haters dressed up as chemistry talk. Casual fans drive sports' ratings. They don't tune in for chemistry.

OP hasn't even watched a game in a decade and he is commenting daily on today's game and players.

[Gohan]

We all know you are one of Warriorfan's accounts. :lol You and Coach/Samurai (and his other 20 accounts) make it extremely obvious.

I hate to tell you but you’re way off. I don’t think they have any posters that like iverson as much as I do

[Shooter]

Who am I then? Not insulting you just saying

I thought you were axe tbh, I guess I am RIGHT?!

[Shooter]

Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

Damn :roll: :roll:

[Shooter]

Hang in there 3ball


I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba

You're the one watching inferiority and thinking it's good..

So you're the dummy


Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

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[SouBeachTalents]

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba

Lmao :oldlol:

[Shooter]

[QUOTE=3ball;14168685]I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba
Holy shit :oldlol:

One of those days for him I guess :lol

[Gohan]

I thought you were axe tbh, I guess I am RIGHT?!

Lol I’m not axe either he hates curry. Curry is my favorite player

[Shooter]

Lol I’m not axe either he hates curry. Curry is my favorite player

Ok slick

[Gohan]

3 ball you can win this one, hang in there. Take it from me

[RRR3]

Imagine stanning 3ball :yaohappy:

NINE HUNDRED LeBron threads :oldlol:

[light]

It doesn't matter if racists preferred to watch uncle toms.

I'm proud of that, actually.

[3ball]

LeBron is the reason ratings tanked for the NHL, MLB, golf, the Kentucky Derby, etc. too. :mad:

Ratings were going down long before covid... it's been a story for years

No one wants to see real sports turned into WWE.. where collusions and fake rings are the standard...

mercenary all-star team teamwork, aka 04' Olympics teamwork is inferior quality basketball to the organic teamwork of prior eras.. it's a lesser brand and quality of basketball for fans to watch

[1987_Lakers]

Ratings were going down long before covid... it's been a story for years

No one wants to see real sports turned into WWE

Yes, it's called the demise of cable tv.

[3ball]

Yes, it's called the demise of cable tv.

Now cp3 is on the way too..

Oh man the season will be riveting with suspense

[highwhey]

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[3ball]

Imagine Magic/Kareem recruiting Isiah... And this is being encouraged

[light]

Imagine Magic/Kareem recruiting Isiah... And this is being encouraged

Magic forced himself onto the Lakers to play with Kareem in the first place. Playing with the best player in the game was the point.

"The only reason I came out was to play with Kareem and the Lakers."

[8Ball]

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba

You're the one watching inferiority and thinking it's good..

So you're the dummy

:roll:

LeQuattro broke the spam bot :lol

[3ball]

Magic forced himself onto the Lakers to play with Kareem in the first place. Playing with the best player in the game was the point.

"The only reason I came out was to play with Kareem and the Lakers."

He did that before he entered the league - it was an extension of being drafted, not a mid-prime decision after getting the lay of the land

Lebron's move started a trend where now everyone does it.. and this short-term, mercenary teamwork is inferior to the organic teamwork of prior eras.. talent-based winning is an inferior brand of ball, so fans are cheated from seeing the organic chemistry needed for the best brand

For example, the bad boys wouldn't exist today because they wouldn't have time to develop their unique style, pace and identity... Prior eras allowed teams to develop their own style and pace, and these unique identities clashed in an interesting battle... Now it's just talent-based winning, while the media must hype up a fake battle

[Roundball_Rock]

Player movement makes it harder for a team to stay on top as the balance of power constantly shifts, to varying degrees, as moves are made.

We were all alive when the Clippers were considered the best team and favorite all season because they added Kawhi, PG to a 48 win team core. LeBron haters incidentally loved the Clippers and touted them, with zero complaints about Kawhi and PG "colluding."

[8Ball]

He did that before he entered the league - it was an extension of being drafted, not a mid-prime decision after getting the lay of the land

Lebron's move started a trend where now everyone does it.. and this short-term, mercenary teamwork is inferior to the organic teamwork of prior eras.. talent-based winning is an inferior brand of ball, so fans are cheated from seeing the organic chemistry needed for the best brand

For example, the bad boys wouldn't exist today because they wouldn't have time to develop their unique style, pace and identity... Prior eras allowed teams to develop their own style and pace, and these unique identities clashed in an interesting battle... Now it's just talent-based winning, while the media must hype up a fake battle

GOAT gonna GOAT.

LeBron has forcefully changed the NBA landscape forever. Deal with it.

LeBron will get Giannis or Kawhi in 2021 free agency.

[Gohan]

Iverson did too but he’s a top 5 player of all time so I guess that is what happens

[3ball]

GOAT gonna GOAT.

LeBron has forcefully changed the NBA landscape forever. Deal with it.

LeBron will get Giannis or Kawhi in 2021 free agency.

lebron's "decision" turned the league into WWE

Organic teamwork developed over years has been replaced by short-term mercenary teamwork (talent-based winning)..

the organic teamwork of previous eras would destroy today's talent-based winning.. lebron did this.. he ruined organic, quality teamwork and basketball.. the NBA = AAU.. best recruiter wins

But I'm happy for you that you enjoy it

Then there's the weak era on top of the colluding.. pure scoring is DEAD.. Jordan wouldn't need this move in today's hands-off, spaced-out dance routine

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gmesUA1mGbI&t=07m40s


^^^ 3 defenders beat and 2 change of directions with 1 dribble... In today's game, the defenders wouldn't be there and MJ would need like 4 less moves and garbage feetwork

[RRR3]

Iverson[/B] did too but he’s a top 5 player of all time so I guess that is what happens
:roll:

[Gohan]

:bowdown:

[SATAN]

Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

:roll:

[Ben Simmons]

Dude has made a bit north of 900 topics almost exclusively about one player(directly or not) and says he’s barely here or thinking about today’s nba. And I can’t even count all of them. Admin deleted ones are gone forever. I can only see open and mod deleted ones and it’s literally more than 900.

This dude sitting at chipotle with Lebron or Steph on his mind itching to make a topic and hate like a smoker in a bar who can’t help but light up when he drinks.

Be one thing if he could think of new shit to say. This guy has such an emotional investment...the internal pressure builds up so much...he has to make multiple new topics saying the same thing just for the relief.

Just can’t keep it in.

How many times must he look at his phone or laptop from across the room and try to talk himself out of coming over and talking about Lebron James for 40 minutes?

Damn. 3ball I am seriously curious...

How old are you? And do you have a job?

[And1AllDay]

Damn. 3ball I am seriously curious...

How old are you? And do you have a job?

he claims to be a 46 year old bald dude in banking investments....

[HoopsNY]

It isn't just him stacking the deck - his team-hopping lessened the quality of basketball because short-term mercenary teamwork is nowhere near the organic teamwork/strategy of prior eras

The days where fans could witness the highest quality strategy, chemistry and brand of basketball are gone because lebron replaced organic teams with team-hopping - he brought the same talented-based winning that lost the 04' and 06' international games to the modern NBA

While I do understand where you're coming from, I think that this is a very simplistic approach. LeBron is symptom of a greater issue, and it certainly doesn't start with him. This is the evolution of popular culture in America that has been going on since the 20s.

In the 90s, guys like Jordan and Pippen were barely paid. By the 1996-97 season, Jordan got an incredible amount after 11 seasons in the NBA. He averaged about $2-3 million a year prior and saw his salary go up to over $30 million.

But the real tipping point begins with Kevin Garnett. KG in 1997 landed a 6 year $128 million dollar deal. The late 90s saw salaries skyrocket across sports. And it was KG that really ushered in the era of gigantic contracts for star players.

I'm a Yankees fan and I remember the 1998 season which was iconic for NY. Bernie Williams won the batting title and he was set to be a free agent. The Yanks didn't want to give him big money so guess what he does? He threatened to go to Boston.

Once Bernie got his deal, the rest followed. We saw big deals from Kevin Brown, Mike Hampton, Carlos Delgado, and eventually A-Rod's famous $252 million dollar deal.

Players began to own the game itself and fans fell in love with the long ball, much like fans have fallen in love with the 3 pointer. It's tough to watch literally half the plays being players running up and down the court launching threes. No offensive schemes, little ball movement, post up plays with isolation on the regular. Very little of that.

But as always, young fans drive this and the parents that fund them support it. Media and advertising understand this, so it will only get worse.

Look what happened to Hip Hop. We grew up on Kool G Rap, KRS-1, and rappers like Rakim who introduced lyrical cadence and word play, then Nas, Tupac, Big, and Eminem.

By 2008 about, something starts to shift. The quality of Hip Hop seemingly dropped, yet album sales and money in general was at an all time high. Why? Simple. Young people buy this stuff.

So I don't think you're wayyy off, but this is too complex a topic to simply boil it down to LeBron. The NBA's ratings had fallen significantly after 1998, too. In case you have forgotten, MJ's reason to return in 2002 was because of the ratings and how low they had fallen. He gave the NBA a boost and donated his salary.

[Roundball_Rock]

he claims to be a 46 year old bald dude in banking investments....

He also has admitted he has not watched any NBA game since 2011. So when you hear him talk about players like George, AD, Giannis you know he has never watched them play or when he talks about others like Harden, Curry he has never watched their primes.

[Bronbron23]

It isn't just him stacking the deck - his team-hopping lessened the quality of basketball because short-term mercenary teamwork is nowhere near the organic teamwork/strategy of prior eras

The days where fans could witness the highest quality strategy, chemistry and brand of basketball are gone because lebron replaced organic teams with team-hopping - he brought the same talented-based winning that lost the 04' and 06' international games to the modern NBA

Gotta disagree on this one. Rating suck from from a few factors. The main thing is the coronavirus the bubble and no fans. Its just not the same. Another factor is the product itself. Nobody wants to watch players flop and refs making soft wack ass fouls all game. Another factor is the blm stuff. The nba audience is predominantly white and most of them dont want to hear it. The last is alot of people are streaming now.

If anything bron is the only thing holding the the league together. Nobody wants to watch the heat vs the nuggets in the finals.

[sdot_thadon]

Gotta disagree on this one. Rating suck from from a few factors. The main thing is the coronavirus the bubble and no fans. Its just not the same. Another factor is the product itself. Nobody wants to watch players flop and refs making soft wack ass fouls all game. Another factor is the blm stuff. The nba audience is predominantly white and most of them dont want to hear it. The last is alot of people are streaming now.

If anything bron is the only thing holding the the league together. Nobody wants to watch the heat vs the nuggets in the finals.

Gotta admit, for once I agree with you.


He did that before he entered the league - it was an extension of being drafted, not a mid-prime decision after getting the lay of the land

Lebron's move started a trend where now everyone does it.. and this short-term, mercenary teamwork is inferior to the organic teamwork of prior eras.. talent-based winning is an inferior brand of ball, so fans are cheated from seeing the organic chemistry needed for the best brand

For example, the bad boys wouldn't exist today because they wouldn't have time to develop their unique style, pace and identity... Prior eras allowed teams to develop their own style and pace, and these unique identities clashed in an interesting battle... Now it's just talent-based winning, while the media must hype up a fake battle

Before I address your thread......Jesus Christ what a meltdown, almost a decade strong. Shit is unheard of. :biggums:

Now about this thread....I'm sorry, but the world you have awakened to is in the year 2020. The game of basketball has evolved business wise (CBA) to the point where we have more players on shorter term deals. What does this mean? It means we enjoy far more robust free agent classes and see our rosters turned over far more frequently than the ancient days of 199X. So unfortunately what appears to be "mercenary teamwork" to your ancient eyes is actually the evolutionary results of the years you spent in basketball hibernation. I cant imagine your shock of seeing half the league pull off moves you thought only the best player was capable of. Not to mention the disbelief you must be in to see a Karl Malone sized man ruling the game from the perimeter while doing things no man his size should. We get it and we're here for you. Kblaze and RMWG are saints doing God's work for helping facilitate your recovery. God Bless.:applause:

[Smoke117]

LEGOAT has cratered OP's mental health.

[Mr. Woke]

I am very glad that King James keeps triggering racists.

[8Ball]

Wait until LeBron wins #5 and then gets Giannis to sign with the Lakers. :roll:

[Shooter]

I'm good.. I spend very little time on here or thinking about today's nba

You're the one watching inferiority and thinking it's good..

So you're the dummy

:roll::roll::roll::roll:

[3ball]

:roll::roll::roll::roll:


At least I don't hate lebron for his wokeness - I have actual basketball related reasons (he turned the league into a WWE-like collusion league with a complicit media, while his team-hopping has eliminated the best brand of basketball, aka organic chemistry)

[2ball]

It is fascinating...

[kawhileonard2]

The 2020 Finals had the worst ratings ever for a finals and Lebron was in it.

[ZionDunks]

It isn't just him stacking the deck - his team-hopping lessened the quality of basketball because short-term mercenary teamwork is nowhere near the organic teamwork/strategy of prior eras

The days where fans could witness the highest quality strategy, chemistry and brand of basketball are gone because lebron replaced organic teams with team-hopping - he brought the same talented-based winning that lost the 04' and 06' international games to the modern NBA

It is his terrible politics

[J Shuttlesworth]

The 2020 Finals had the worst ratings ever for a finals and Lebron was in it.
All sports collectively got lower viewership in 2020. I guess we're gonna blame LeBron for that?

Don't be such a dumb****

[Spurs m8]

There's no real competition now

No cool rivalries

Everything is just watered down now.

And we won't even go into the 3 jacking and no D

[1987_Lakers]

Yet, you guys are all still here.

[Spurs m8]

Yet, you guys are all still here.

So?

Just because it's a quarter as good as it was, doesn't mean we don't watch it sometimes.

And doesn't mean we can't call it out for being trash either.

You like shit basketball...Good for you

[Shooter]

The 2020 Finals had the worst ratings ever for a finals and Lebron was in it.

Did you miss the memo? Been living in a cave?

The games had no in-game fans as the world was going through a pandemic. Stay a bit more informed please, you're embarassing our forum.

wHy dId dA rAtiNgZ dRoP?

Yikes.

[bullettooth]

Did you miss the memo? Been living in a cave?

The games had no fans as the world was going through a pandemic. Stay a bit more informed please, you're embarassing our forum.

wHy dId dA rAtiNgZ dRoP?

Yikes.

This.

There are some retards out there that actually think the ratings dropped because the NBA is too political. LULz