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FireDavidKahn
10-25-2020, 06:34 PM
Then why do LeHaters use PPG to say that LeBron's teammates were better then Jordan??????????

Lets not even take into account revounding, assists, spg, bpg, actual defensive impact and offensive impact....:roll:

:oldlol:

3ball
10-25-2020, 06:37 PM
Then why do LeHaters use PPG to say that LeBron's teammates were better then Jordan??????????

Lets not even take into account revounding, assists, spg, bpg, actual defensive impact and offensive impact....:roll:

:oldlol:

It isn't just ppg

It's efficiency, PER, win shares

plus-minus, net rating, clutch points

gap between 1st and 2nd option... 0/6 FMVP (woat)

8Ball
10-25-2020, 06:40 PM
Then why do LeHaters use PPG to say that LeBron's teammates were better then Jordan??????????

Lets not even take into account revounding, assists, spg, bpg, actual defensive impact and offensive impact....:roll:

:oldlol:

Because LeBron is better at Jordan at everything else.

dbugz
10-25-2020, 06:43 PM
It isn't just ppg

It's efficiency, PER, win shares

plus-minus, net rating, clutch points

gap between 1st and 2nd option... 0/6 FMVP (woat)

OP doesn't have the mental capability to argue with you :oldlol: :roll:

Roundball_Rock
10-25-2020, 06:44 PM
Then why do LeHaters use PPG to say that LeBron's teammates were better then Jordan??????????

Lets not even take into account revounding, assists, spg, bpg, actual defensive impact and offensive impact....:roll:

:oldlol:

Exactly. :roll: They are shameless in their hypocrisy.

Let's play the MJ stan game and see how his comp scored compared to LeBron's (like they do for MJ's teammates versus LeBron's). First, let's compare PPG across eras for sidekicks.

1991: Worthy 19
1992: Porter 16
1993: Johnson 17
1996: Kemp 23
1997: Stockton 15
1998: Stockton 9.7
Avg.: 17

2007: Parker 25
2011: Terry 18
2012: Westbrook 27
2013: Parker 16
2014: Kawhi 18
2015: Klay 16
2016: Klay 20
2017: Curry 27
2018: Curry 28
2020: Bam 15
Avg.: 21

Summary

20+ scorers against MJ: Kemp
20+ scorers against LJ: Parker, Westbrook, Klay, Curry (2x)
25+ scorers against MJ: 0
25+ scorers against LJ: Parker, Westbrook, Curry (2x)

Another reason MJ stans don't talk about the scoring of the comp follows below. Forget sidekicks. Let's check perimeter #1's (because their FG % is more apples to apples than comparing a 7'4" C to a SF who took threes and mid-range shots for most of his attempts) in the Finals/ECF. Let's apply their own metric they use for MJ's teammates--PPG and FG %--to #1's on the comp.

Perimeter #1's Vs. the Bulls (1991-1998)

91' ECF Isiah 17 on 41%
91' Finals Magic 19 on 43%
92' ECF Price 19 on 48%
92' Finals Drexler 25 on 41%
96' Finals Payton 18 on 44%
97' ECF Hardaway 17 on 35%
98' ECF Miller 17 on 42%

So in these 7 series, the opposing #1 cleared 20+ only once and they were below 44% shooting in 6 of 7 series. Zero above 50%.

If we are to take MJ stans at their "word" and define players by their PPG in vacuums, MJ's era was incredibly weak--look at how hard getting to even 20 PPG was for all these players in that era.

3ball
10-25-2020, 06:48 PM
Exactly. :roll: They are shameless in their hypocrisy.

Let's play the MJ stan game and see how his comp scored compared to LeBron's (like they do for MJ's teammates versus LeBron's). First, let's compare PPG across eras for sidekicks.

1991: Worthy 19
1992: Porter 16
1993: Johnson 17
1996: Kemp 23
1997: Stockton 15
1998: Stockton 9.7
Avg.: 17

2007: Parker 25
2011: Terry 18
2012: Westbrook 27
2013: Parker 16
2014: Kawhi 18
2015: Klay 16
2016: Klay 20
2017: Curry 27
2018: Curry 28
2020: Bam 15
Avg.: 21

Summary

20+ scorers against MJ: Kemp
20+ scorers against LJ: Parker, Westbrook, Klay, Curry (2x)
25+ scorers against MJ: 0
25+ scorers against LJ: Parker, Westbrook, Curry (2x)

Another reason MJ stans don't talk about the scoring of the comp follows below. Forget sidekicks. Let's check perimeter #1's (because their FG % is more apples to apples than comparing a 7'4" C to a SF who took threes and mid-range shots for most of his attempts) in the Finals/ECF. Let's apply their own metric they use for MJ's teammates--PPG and FG %--to #1's on the comp.

Perimeter #1's Vs. the Bulls (1991-1998)

91' ECF Isiah 17 on 41%
91' Finals Magic 19 on 43%
92' ECF Price 19 on 48%
92' Finals Drexler 25 on 41%
96' Finals Payton 18 on 44%
97' ECF Hardaway 17 on 35%
98' ECF Miller 17 on 42%

So in these 7 series, the opposing #1 cleared 20+ only once and they were below 44% shooting in 6 of 7 series. Zero above 50%.




MJ was the primary defender on the bolded above, which is why they shot so poorly

Just YouTube "Jordan defense on Payton" or whoever, and the games will pop up showing him as primary defender

That's why mj is the goat non-center defender.. he held everyone to 33-43% shooting

SATAN
10-25-2020, 11:26 PM
1/9 :facepalm

And1AllDay
10-25-2020, 11:34 PM
MJ was the primary defender on the bolded above, which is why they shot so poorly

Just YouTube "Jordan defense on Payton" or whoever, and the games will pop up showing him as primary defender

That's why mj is the goat non-center defender.. he held everyone to 33-43% shooting

mike is top 5 at best for perimeter defenders bruh

1. bran
2. kobe
3. pippen
4. kiwi
5. mike maybe /?

3BallSucks
10-26-2020, 12:31 AM
MJ was the primary defender on the bolded above, which is why they shot so poorly

Just YouTube "Jordan defense on Payton" or whoever, and the games will pop up showing him as primary defender

That's why mj is the goat non-center defender.. he held everyone to 33-43% shooting


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