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Lebron is the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time. I mean sure, he's the GOAT and a level on his own overall of all time but how amazing is that?
In the 70's they got to experience the greatest center of all time and in the 90's they got to experience the best SG all time but we got to experience the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time in one person. Just grateful to be a witness and happy to share this era with you all. We're a very spoiled generation.
scuzzy
10-25-2020, 07:05 PM
Mister One Through Five
play all positions
guard all positions
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8Ball
10-25-2020, 07:06 PM
Lebron is the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time. I mean sure, he's the GOAT and a level on his own overall of all time but how amazing is that?
In the 70's they got to experience the greatest center of all time and in the 90's they got to experience the best SG all time but we got to experience the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time in one person. Just grateful to be a witness and happy to share this era with you all. We're a very spoiled generation.
Also the GOAT basketball IQ and one of the best passers of all time.
He's a superb shot blocker and rebounder as well.
3ball
10-25-2020, 07:44 PM
He's only ever played the live-dribble, PG role
so he's never really played forward, which is a highly-assisted, quick iso and/or post position
Lebron has never played like this
He's only ever played a live dribble, PG role.. and that's why Magic is the superior player - lebron is a PG and Magic is the goat PG
Shooter
10-25-2020, 07:55 PM
Mister One Through Five
play all positions
guard all positions
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Bingo
:hammertime:
HoopsNY
10-25-2020, 09:46 PM
Greatest PG, SG, SF, PF, C, shot blocker, rebounder, three point shooter, passer, defender, transition defender, taco Tuesday promoter, Twitter social activist, long schlong John champion, runner, jumper, athlete, singer, songwriter, actor, politician, doctor, dentist, fart specialist, chemist, astrologist, neurosurgeon, and NBA 2k player.....did I leave anything out?
1987_Lakers
10-25-2020, 10:03 PM
Greatest PG, SG, SF, PF, C, shot blocker, rebounder, three point shooter, passer, defender, transition defender, taco Tuesday promoter, Twitter social activist, long schlong John champion, runner, jumper, athlete, singer, songwriter, actor, politician, doctor, dentist, fart specialist, chemist, astrologist, neurosurgeon, and NBA 2k player.....did I leave anything out?
Are you ok?
Are you ok?
No he’s not. LeBron is getting much too close to his loverboy for comfort.
3BallSucks
10-26-2020, 12:34 AM
He's only ever played the live-dribble, PG role
so he's never really played forward, which is a highly-assisted, quick iso and/or post position
Lebron has never played like this
He's only ever played a live dribble, PG role.. and that's why Magic is the superior player - lebron is a PG and Magic is the goat PG
https://i.postimg.cc/fWtwv8cK/LNDin-DFp-400x400.jpg
LAmbruh
10-26-2020, 12:48 AM
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And1AllDay
10-26-2020, 12:51 AM
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Bran gon' bran (GOAT gon' GOAT)
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Roundball_Rock
10-26-2020, 12:19 PM
Are you ok?
No he’s not. LeBron is getting much too close to his loverboy for comfort.
Hoops claims to not be a MJ fan. :lol
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 12:49 PM
Lebron is the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time. I mean sure, he's the GOAT and a level on his own overall of all time but how amazing is that?
In the 70's they got to experience the greatest center of all time and in the 90's they got to experience the best SG all time but we got to experience the greatest PG, SF and PF of all time in one person. Just grateful to be a witness and happy to share this era with you all. We're a very spoiled generation.
Wtf is this nonsense. Lebron has always mainly played the pg position. Duncan was way better in the pf position and kd is way better in the sf position. Magic is a much better pure pg also. What makes lebron so valuable is he's great at everything he's just not the best anything. He's the master jack of all trades basically.
Roundball_Rock
10-26-2020, 01:23 PM
Wtf is this nonsense. Lebron has always mainly played the pg position. Duncan was way better in the pf position and kd is way better in the sf position. Magic is a much better pure pg also. What makes lebron so valuable is he's great at everything he's just not the best anything. He's the master jack of all trades basically.
He was a PG this year but basically a SF every year prior to this year, other than playing some PF alongside Bosh in smaller lineups.
LeBron has led the league in scoring and in assists. He has outrebounded AD, Love, and Bosh for entire playoff runs. He has anchored many strong defenses while consistently piloting elite offenses. It looks like he is great at a lot of things. You make it sound like he is Lamar Odom.
Wtf is this nonsense. Lebron has always mainly played the pg position. Duncan was way better in the pf position and kd is way better in the sf position. Magic is a much better pure pg also. What makes lebron so valuable is he's great at everything he's just not the best anything. He's the master jack of all trades basically.
If you had to create the best team to win 1 million and you had to pick the best players in each position, you would not pick Duncan ahead of Lebron at the 4(if PF was the only position you could pick Lebron). Same thing applies for PG or SF.
You'd be lying if you said no.
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 05:24 PM
He was a PG this year but basically a SF every year prior to this year, other than playing some PF alongside Bosh in smaller lineups.
LeBron has led the league in scoring and in assists. He has outrebounded AD, Love, and Bosh for entire playoff runs. He has anchored many strong defenses while consistently piloting elite offenses. It looks like he is great at a lot of things. You make it sound like he is Lamar Odom.
If you read again you'll see i said he's great at everything. He's just not usually the best at any one thing. And i dont argue with any of your points but the title in tbe thread was goat. Theres a difference between being great and the goat at something.
And bron has always basically been pg. The only exception was in miami where that role was shared more evenly. Every other year he's basically been a point gaurd.
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 05:30 PM
If you had to create the best team to win 1 million and you had to pick the best players in each position, you would not pick Duncan ahead of Lebron at the 4(if PF was the only position you could pick Lebron). Same thing applies for PG or SF.
You'd be lying if you said no.
If i wanted to win? I would chose duncan as a 4 over lebron. Bron cant defend the elite 4's in the league and duncan is one of the best defenders ever at that position. Duncan is easily a better pf than bron. Bron is just a better overall player. If i had to chose one or the other in general id take bron.
If i wanted to win? I would chose duncan as a 4 over lebron. Bron cant defend the elite 4's in the league and duncan is one of the best defenders ever at that position. Duncan is easily a better pf than bron. Bron is just a better overall player. If i had to chose one or the other in general id take bron.
As if Duncan would be able to defend Lebron? A team playing with two big men at 4 and 5 would get run out of the floor by a team with Lebron at the 4.
Again, if Lebron or Duncan were only available for you at the 4, there is no way in hell anybody decides to leave Lebron out for Duncan.
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 06:27 PM
As if Duncan would be able to defend Lebron? A team playing with two big men at 4 and 5 would get run out of the floor by a team with Lebron at the 4.
Again, if Lebron or Duncan were only available for you at the 4, there is no way in hell anybody decides to leave Lebron out for Duncan.
No he wouldn't but thats not the issue. can he gaurd elite power forwards because thats what he'd have to do. Again bron is the better player but he would not be a better pf than duncan. Your not thinking about this in the right way. Bron is usually used in many different ways. Most of the time because thats what his systems call for. On a team with a great pg that can pass and a great 2 shooting gaurd that can score scorer and a great center that can rebound defenend and score some you dont need a pf that can do the things bron can do because everything is already covered. You primarily need a pf that can defend the other pf and rebound and score some efficiently.
Brons dominance is heavily relied on him having the ball in his hands and creating plays. With a say magic johnson on his team the ball wouldn't be in his hands as much. In this scenario he'd be a pf and have to score primarily in the post or move off ball and get the ball on tbe perimeter more. Niether is his strength tbh. He'd obviously still be great but he wouldn't fit the pf position better than tim duncan. Not even close.
Manny98
10-26-2020, 07:18 PM
LeBron at point guard is a literal cheat code
He's 6'9, can defend 1-5, can score,rebound do absolutely everything on the basketball court
His versatility and ability to do literally everything at an elite level is a good argument for why he's the GOAT
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 07:39 PM
LeBron at point guard is a literal cheat code
He's 6'9, can defend 1-5, can score,rebound do absolutely everything on the basketball court
His versatility and ability to do literally everything at an elite level is a good argument for why he's the GOAT
He's not a better a point gaurd than magic and he cant gaurd 1-5. Try again:facepalm
Manny98
10-26-2020, 07:42 PM
He's not a better a point gaurd than magic and he cant gaurd 1-5. Try again:facepalm
In his Miami days he could defend 1-5.
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 07:49 PM
In his Miami days he could defend 1-5.
Maybe against a team with trash pf and centers. Bron could never gaurd the elite pf and centers. Still one of the greatest defenders ever though when he's engaged.
Manny98
10-26-2020, 07:55 PM
Maybe against a team with trash pf and centers. Bron could never gaurd the elite pf and centers. Still one of the greatest defenders ever though when he's engaged.
:facepalm
https://youtu.be/AV3O94yv4vc
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 08:46 PM
:facepalm
https://youtu.be/AV3O94yv4vc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_o5YIXzF1c
Manny98
10-26-2020, 08:58 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_o5YIXzF1c
That's why I specifically said Miami LeBron could guard 1-5, that clip was from 2007
Shooter
10-26-2020, 09:08 PM
If you had to create the best team to win 1 million and you had to pick the best players in each position, you would not pick Duncan ahead of Lebron at the 4(if PF was the only position you could pick Lebron). Same thing applies for PG or SF.
You'd be lying if you said no.
One game, do or die? Game 7 situation ?LeBron is the greatest game 7 performer so yeah, kinda gotta go with that :lol
Shooter
10-26-2020, 09:10 PM
:facepalm
https://youtu.be/AV3O94yv4vc
leBroN wOuLd nEveR suRviVe a pHysiCaL eRa :lol
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 09:24 PM
That's why I specifically said Miami LeBron could guard 1-5, that clip was from 2007
It was only a joke dude relax. And yes miami bron was as good of a defender as anyone. He couldn't consistently gaurd centers or even most power fowards though. If he cluld he would of gaurded duncan instead of green, manu and diaw.
Bronbron23
10-26-2020, 09:27 PM
leBroN wOuLd nEveR suRviVe a pHysiCaL eRa :lol
Was this an example of physical play? Fighting for position against a soft European:facepalm
That said bron would do fine in a more physical era.
Gohan
10-27-2020, 10:03 AM
Op must of forgotten that iverson is the goat sg and pg. but I’ll let it slide
Dagoods
10-27-2020, 11:39 AM
MAGIC > LeBron as a PG
DUNCAN > LeBron as a PF
LeBron = Greatest SF ever.
light
10-27-2020, 03:52 PM
Uncomfortable truth: LeBron can play shooting guard better than MJ too.
light
10-27-2020, 03:53 PM
MAGIC > LeBron as a PG
DUNCAN > LeBron as a PF
LeBron = Greatest SF ever.
Duncan couldn't shoot or pass and Magic couldn't defend or shoot.
An argument can be made for LeBron being better than both at their positions because he can do everything well while they cannot.
ImKobe
10-27-2020, 04:28 PM
PG: Magic
SG: Jordan/Kobe
SF: Bird/KD/Lebron
PF: Duncan/AD
C: Kareem/Shaq
kawhileonard2
10-27-2020, 09:49 PM
Not the best at any position
PG - Magic/Isiah/Stockton/Curry
SG - MJ/Kobe/Wade
SF - Bird/Kawhi/Durant/Lebron/Dr J.
PF - Duncan/Malone/Barkley/KG/Dirk/AD
C - Kareem/Russell/Shaq/Hakeem
r0drig0lac
10-27-2020, 09:56 PM
PG: Magic
SG: Jordan/Kobe
SF: Bird/KD/Lebron
PF: Duncan/AD
C: Kareem/Shaq
LeBron over Kawhi? :facepalm
FireDavidKahn
10-27-2020, 10:05 PM
Was this an example of physical play? Fighting for position against a soft European:facepalm
That said bron would do fine in a more physical era.
LeBron is 6'9" and nearly 260 while being the best athlete ever. He'd be just fine in any "physical" era.
And1AllDay
10-27-2020, 10:07 PM
LeBron over Kawhi? :facepalm
who hurt you? :oldlol: :oldlol:
And1AllDay
10-27-2020, 10:08 PM
PG: Magic
SG: Jordan/Kobe
SF: Bird/KD/Lebron
PF: Duncan/AD
C: Kareem/Shaq
where you been lil b1tch :oldlol: 25,000 posts and he 'stops' when bran wins :oldlol: weak fakkit
Bronbron23
10-28-2020, 12:40 AM
LeBron is 6'9" and nearly 260 while being the best athlete ever. He'd be just fine in any "physical" era.
Yeah i agree. I said that dude
nizroc
10-28-2020, 12:55 AM
There's been some real garbage posted on this forum, but this has to be among the zaniest and trolliest threads yet. Screw it, Muggsy Bogues is the greatest center of all time.
There's been some real garbage posted on this forum, but this has to be among the zaniest and trolliest threads yet. Screw it, Muggsy Bogues is the greatest center of all time.
Can Muggsy defend a 5? Lebron can defend any PG, SF and PF while being better than all of them offensively.
Bronbron23
10-28-2020, 11:23 AM
Can Muggsy defend a 5? Lebron can defend any PG, SF and PF while being better than all of them offensively.
Any?
2020 butler 26/8/10 on 55% shooting. Played way above his potential and had an atg series.
2018 kd 29/11/8 on 53% shooting. Played above his usual standard and had an atg series. Won fmvp over bron
2017 kd 35/8/5 56% shooting. played above his standard and had an atg series. Won fmvp over bron
2015 iggy 16/6/4 on 52% fg played above his standard and won fmvp against bron
2014 kawhi 18/6/2 61% fg played above his standard and won fmvp agsinst bron.
Forget any at all positions. bron cant even defend his own position. Bron stans are absolutely amazing :facepalm
HoopsNY
10-28-2020, 11:59 AM
Any?
2020 butler 26/8/10 on 55% shooting. Played way above his potential and had an atg series.
2018 kd 29/11/8 on 53% shooting. Played above his usual standard and had an atg series. Won fmvp over bron
2017 kd 35/8/5 56% shooting. played above his standard and had an atg series. Won fmvp over bron
2015 iggy 16/6/4 on 52% fg played above his standard and won fmvp against bron
2014 kawhi 18/6/2 61% fg played above his standard and won fmvp agsinst bron.
Forget any at all positions. bron cant even defend his own position. Bron stans are absolutely amazing :facepalm
Yep. We hear it all the time.
"LeBron is the greatest transition defender EVER!" (What does that even mean?)
"LeBron can defend all 5 positions at an elite level cause he did it against Derrick Rose for 2 games and Pau Gasol in 2012 when Pau was 32!"
Oh and the best one yet...
"Al Horford!!!"
With that being said, LeBron's defensive peak was damn impressive. He was definitely versatile, fast, and a great help defender. But the overreach is unnecessary. And it's like you said, he's underwhelming against his own position.
Bronbron23
10-28-2020, 12:06 PM
Yep. We hear it all the time.
"LeBron is the greatest transition defender EVER!" (What does that even mean?)
"LeBron can defend all 5 positions at an elite level cause he did it against Derrick Rose for 2 games and Pau Gasol in 2012 when Pau was 32!"
Oh and the best one yet...
"Al Horford!!!"
With that being said, LeBron's defensive peak was damn impressive. He was definitely versatile, fast, and a great help defender. But the overreach is unnecessary. And it's like you said, he's underwhelming against his own position.
Yeah I've said many times on here that when engaged he's one of the best there is. Its kind of his overall presence that makes him so goid though. Playing the lanes, recovering from behind, his help defense. He is a decent on ball defender too but its never been whats made him an elite defender.
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