Why is that the greatest people in History tend to be Leftists?

[RRR3]

Jesus Christ, most influential person of all time
Gandhi
MLK, GOAT peaceful revolutionary
Malcolm X
Nehru
Einstein, GOAT intellect and GOAT scientist
Karl Marx, GOAT sociologist and economist
Frederich Engels
Lenin
2Pac, GOAT rapper
LeBron James, GOAT basketball player (he’s a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro
Sigmund Freud, GOAT psychologist
Peter Kropotkin
Leon Trotsky
Angela Davis
George Orwell
Indira Gandhi
Charlie Chaplin, GOAT actor
Huey Newton
John Brown
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Ho Chi Minh
Jean-Paul Sartre
Nelson Mandela
Henry David Thoreau
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Stalin (yeah he was evil but you can’t deny he made USSR a superpower)
Oscar Wilde
Helen Keller
Mao Zedong (again, he was pretty brutal but he vastly improved China’s standard of living, average lifespan and made them a superpower)
Pablo Picasso, GOAT painter
John Steinbeck
Ernest Hemingway
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

Seriously, this is a who’s who of the GOATs. Who the hell does the center and right have?

[RRR3]

This isn’t even close to a comprehensive list either.

[CelticBaller]

Malcom X was right wing

[RRR3]

Malcom X was right wing
This is legit possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

https://www.socialist.net/malcolm-x-you-show-me-a-capitalist-i-ll-show-you-a-bloodsucker.htm

[CelticBaller]

Malcom X literally advocated for black people to create their own capital and trashed white leftist on multiple interviews

The man talks nice or vague about socialism once and suddenly he’s a socialist? When his whole work is about the growth of black capitalism?

You're white, you don’t know shit about this

[CelticBaller]

I truly believe that if ever a state social agency destroyed a family, it destroyed ours. We wanted and tried to stay together. Our home didn’t have to be destroyed. But the Welfare, the courts, and their doctor, gave us the one-two-three punch


Instead of the Negro leaders having the black man begging for a chance to dine in white restaurants, the Negro leader should be showing the black man how to do something to strengthen his own economy, to give himself an independent economy or to provide job opportunities for himself, not begging for a cup of coffee in a white man’s restaurant.


So our people not only have to be re-educated to the importance of supporting black business, but the black man himself has to be made aware of the importance of going into business. And once you and I go into business, we own and operate at least the businesses in our community. What we will be doing is developing a situation wherein we will actually be able to create employment for the people in the community. And once you can create some employment in the community where you live it will eliminate the necessity of you and me having to act ignorantly and disgracefully, boycotting and picketing some place else trying to beg him for a job.

Find me one socialist quote and I can find you 10 more of these

[RRR3]

Malcom X literally advocated for black people to create their own capital and trashed white leftist on multiple interviews

The man talks nice or vague about socialism once and suddenly he’s a socialist? When his whole work is about the growth of black capitalism?

You're white, you don’t know shit about this
https://i.ibb.co/3MrCR6F/7-B088-D75-6-EFC-4-CB9-A811-F3-ABEAD9-B882.jpg

You’re actually retarded.

[RRR3]

Find me one socialist quote and I can find you 10 more of these
Are you under the impression socialists are anti-business? :biggums: Malcolm X wanted the people to control the economy, that’s literally socialism you dolt.

[CelticBaller]

Well, any form of integration, forced integration, any effort to force integration upon whites is actually hypocritical. It is a form of hypocrisy involved. If a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that’s brotherhood. But if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that’s not brotherhood, that’s hypocrisy. And what America is trying to do is pass laws to force whites to pretend that they want Negroes into their schools or in their places of employment. Well, this is hypocrisy, and this makes a worse relationship between black and white, rather than if this could be brought about on a voluntary basi

yet his quotes literally tell another story. Malcom X was against the state dummy

[CelticBaller]

Are you under the impression socialists are anti-business? :biggums: Malcolm X wanted the people to control the economy, that’s literally socialism you dolt.

No you idiot. Malcom X wanted blacks to control their capital, not have a black or white state, the individual would.

edit: also using wikipedia as source? your college professor would be disappointed

[starface]

Jesus Christ, most influential person of all time
Gandhi
MLK, GOAT peaceful revolutionary
Malcolm X
Nehru
Einstein, GOAT intellect and GOAT scientist
Karl Marx, GOAT sociologist and economist
Frederich Engels
Lenin
2Pac, GOAT rapper
LeBron James, GOAT basketball player (he’s a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro
Sigmund Freud, GOAT psychologist
Peter Kropotkin
Leon Trotsky
Angela Davis
George Orwell
Indira Gandhi
Charlie Chaplin, GOAT actor
Huey Newton
John Brown
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Ho Chi Minh
Jean-Paul Sartre
Nelson Mandela
Henry David Thoreau
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Stalin (yeah he was evil but you can’t deny he made USSR a superpower)
Oscar Wilde
Helen Keller
Mao Zedong (again, he was pretty brutal but he vastly improved China’s standard of living, average lifespan and made them a superpower)
Pablo Picasso, GOAT painter
John Steinbeck
Ernest Hemingway
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

Seriously, this is a who’s who of the GOATs. Who the hell does the center and right have?


You are listing people who ESPOUSED leftist ideals, not people who lived leftist lifestyles.

Tupac flaunted his wealth constantly, which he amassed from a free market system. Shouting “I love communism!” because he thought it made him sound smart and edgy, didnt make him an ACTUAL communist.

If youre familiar with machiavelli, and Im sure youre not, you would understand that it is often an important way of maintaining authority to APPEAR to your public as liberal. If you SAY leftist things while DOING conservative things - a la Bernie “No Charity” Sanders - you will engender much popularity while continuing to reap the benefits of a skewed structure. Therefore it is common for successful public figures to espouse leftism to double down on their celebrity popularity with an IMAGE of leftism. But they do not practice it, ever.

You could go join a bunch of real leftists RIGHT NOW in the Peace Corps and volunteer in Povertystan. But you arent because you only want to seem leftist until you can figure out a way to make a decent buck and live well in America. You think it makes you look like some kind of profound revolutionary altruist, when really it’s about your lack of options and you choosing the least productive and most selfish one bc you dont wanna go help people somewhere else.

Goodnight fool.

[Proctor]

:lol:lol:lol

[RRR3]

You are listing people who ESPOUSED leftist ideals, not people who lived leftist lifestyles.

Tupac flaunted his wealth constantly, which he amassed from a free market system. Shouting “I love communism!” because he thought it made him sound smart and edgy, didnt make him an ACTUAL communist.

If youre familiar with machiavelli, and Im sure youre not, you would understand that it is often an important way of maintaining authority to APPEAR to your public as liberal. If you SAY leftist things while DOING conservative things - a la Bernie “No Charity” Sanders, you will engender much popularity while continuing to reap the benefits of a skewed structure.

You could go join a bunch of real leftists RIGHT NOW in the Peace Corps and volunteer in Povertystan. But you arent because you only want to seem leftist until you can figure out a way to make a decent buck and live well in America. You think it makes you look like some kind of profound revolutionary altruist, when really it’s about your lack of options and you choosing the least productive and most selfish one bc you dont wanna go help people somewhere else.

Goodnight fool.
Steaming.

[RRR3]

No you idiot. Malcom X wanted blacks to control their capital, not have a black or white state, the individual would.

edit: also using wikipedia as source? your college professor would be disappointed
Socialism does not automatically imply state control you ****ing moron. You are clearly ignorant as to the fact that he was advocating for an economy that the workers controlled. Do you think all leftists are statists? :wtf: Absolutely no one will tell you Malcolm X was anything but a leftist, this is an extremely awful take and you are embarrassing yourself.

[RRR3]

This dude legit thinks the government owns everything in Cuba I bet :lol

[CelticBaller]

Socialism does not automatically imply state control you ****ing moron. You are clearly ignorant as to the fact that he was advocating for an economy that the workers controlled. Do you think all leftists are statists? :wtf: Absolutely no one will tell you Malcolm X was anything but a leftist, this is an extremely awful take and you are embarrassing yourself.

Socialism literally needs the state to work dumbass, and also acting like you know more than people when there's billions of articles out there on Malcom X economic views is embarrassing. It's like telling someone that he wasn't a muslim

[RRR3]

Socialism literally needs the state to work dumbass, and also acting like you know more than people when there's billions of articles out there on Malcom X economic views is embarrassing. It's like telling someone that he wasn't a muslim
Malcolm X was literally a fan of Fidel Castro and Kwame Nkrumah. How on earth could he be right wing? Educate yourself.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/27/fidel-castro-new-york-malcolm-x

https://brill.com/previewpdf/book/edcoll/9789004308688/B9789004308688-s004.xml

[starface]

Edit, nvm Im not gonna get suckered into the same old pointless arguments

[CelticBaller]

he was also a fan of Elijah Muhammed who was a right winger

but keep trying

[RRR3]

Hitler was left wing reee
https://i.ibb.co/XCs0PQn/C973-EC5-E-6-D43-44-FA-87-EA-6-F73-E4-E39-D0-F.jpg



:yaohappy:

[RRR3]

he was also a fan of Elijah Muhammed who was a right winger

but keep trying
He broke with Muhammad later in his life :confusedshrug:



You should probably know the Nation of Islam was watched by the FBI for suspected ties to Communism btw.

[CelticBaller]

The FBI tied the NOI with alot bs, it was their way to oppress the mean black guys they couldn't control

[RRR3]

The US government doesn’t kill or target right wing people much, champ. I’m sorry you think Malcolm X having reactionary views before his pilgrimage to Islam (that are easily explained by his life’s experience) means he wasn’t in favor of a socialized economy.

[RRR3]

Even if we agree with this delusional Biden stan’s (seriously who STANS Biden? At least Trump is hilarious on purpose) insane opinion that Malcolm X wasn’t an anti-capitalist, that still leaves a who’s who of the greatest people in living history. I forgot the 14th Dalai Lama btw.

[starface]

https://i.ibb.co/XCs0PQn/C973-EC5-E-6-D43-44-FA-87-EA-6-F73-E4-E39-D0-F.jpg



:yaohappy:


:lol

Posts an introduction paragraph on wiki without knowing any context.

Hitler introduced privatization to improve the economy. Gee, imagine that. The Soviet Union did the same thing in fact, when it turned out communism wasnt working. They just continued to use the communist label because it was the propaganda that worked best on the average chump.

Hitler and the Nazis, however, as they gained more power and became embroiled in war, usurped a number of private banks and factories and co-opted them to the government for state control. This is a fact. Feel free to do some research.

In other words, the Nazis called themselves socialists, but leveraged capitalism to improve the national economy. Once it improved, and the government became more power hungry and corrupt, they then moved back toward socialism. That is to say, they seized private business in order to enforce the Fuhrer’s will. Just as you would have Bernie do. No difference. There’s your socialism.

Anyway, carry on embarrassing yourself. Youre not a communist. Otherwise youd live on a commune. Youre a little boy in a social rut, looking for some identity he can call his own.

I allow.

[Luka Doncic]

Jesus Christ, most influential person of all time
Gandhi
MLK, GOAT peaceful revolutionary
Malcolm X
Nehru
Einstein, GOAT intellect and GOAT scientist
Karl Marx, GOAT sociologist and economist
Frederich Engels
Lenin
2Pac, GOAT rapper
LeBron James, GOAT basketball player (he’s a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro
Sigmund Freud, GOAT psychologist
Peter Kropotkin
Leon Trotsky
Angela Davis
George Orwell
Indira Gandhi
Charlie Chaplin, GOAT actor
Huey Newton
John Brown
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Ho Chi Minh
Jean-Paul Sartre
Nelson Mandela
Henry David Thoreau
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Stalin (yeah he was evil but you can’t deny he made USSR a superpower)
Oscar Wilde
Helen Keller
Mao Zedong (again, he was pretty brutal but he vastly improved China’s standard of living, average lifespan and made them a superpower)
Pablo Picasso, GOAT painter
John Steinbeck
Ernest Hemingway
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

Seriously, this is a who’s who of the GOATs. Who the hell does the center and right have?

Put your name down with those “GOAT” people.

You will be GOAT ugly.

[RRR3]

Poooooor little Starface

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/


Pissing his MAGA diapers

[bladefd]

:lol

Posts an introduction paragraph on wiki without knowing any context.

Hitler introduced privatization to improve the economy. Gee, imagine that. The Soviet Union did the same thing in fact, when it turned out communism wasnt working. They just continued to use the communist label because it was the propaganda that worked best on the average chump.

Hitler and the Nazis, however, as they gained more power and became embroiled in war, usurped a number of private banks and factories and co-opted them to the government for state control. This is a fact. Feel free to do some research.

In other words, the Nazis called themselves socialists, but leveraged capitalism to improve the national economy. Once it improved, and the government became more power hungry and corrupt, they then moved back toward socialism. That is to say, they seized private business in order to enforce the Fuhrer’s will. Just as you would have Bernie do. No difference. There’s your socialism.

Anyway, carry on embarrassing yourself. Youre not a communist. Otherwise youd live on a commune. Youre a little boy in a social rut, looking for some identity he can call his own.

I allow.

You are not saying Nazi germany was socialist, are you?

There's a difference between Fuhrer's controlling as a fascist tyrant and representative government controlling production on behalf of people. The former means an individual has complete control over everything until he either dies or passes control to another individual. Bernie's politics are not fascist and not control by 1 person.

Fascism is on a very different scale from socialism. Fascism is when an individual has complete power over every industry, production, distribution, everything - it tries to work against what is considered the common good because it works on the whims of that single individual (almost like a kingdom).
Socialism has state control over production - it tries to work for what is considered the common good.
Communism is a step above socialism with state control over production as well as distribution. State, party, individuals all intersect into one with common interest for all. In this system, everyone is in one single common.

A government can't be both fascist and socialist. They are on separate scales. In the example of Nazi Germany, they were not socialists in practice even though their name has 'socialism' in there. That was a fascist government controlled by dictator Hitler.

[starface]

You are not saying Nazi germany was socialist, are you?

There's a difference between Fuhrer's controlling as a fascist tyrant and representative government controlling production on behalf of people. The former means an individual has complete control over everything until he either dies or passes control to another individual. Bernie's politics are not fascist and not control by 1 person.

Fascism is on a very different scale from socialism. Fascism is when an individual has complete power over every industry, production, distribution, everything - it tries to work against what is considered the common good because it works on the whims of that single individual (almost like a kingdom).
Socialism has state control over production - it tries to work for what is considered the common good.
Communism is a step above socialism with state control over production as well as distribution. State, party, individuals all intersect into one with common interest for all. In this system, everyone is in one single common.

A government can't be both fascist and socialist. They are on separate scales. In the example of Nazi Germany, they were not socialists in practice even though their name has 'socialism' in there. That was a fascist government controlled by dictator Hitler.


The difference is semantic between you running my business openly, or allowing me to run it then taking all my profits thru taxation and calling that socialism. The result is the same. You, the government, decide how MY labor is used.

Thats what you want Bernie to do. Because much of America doesnt want that and Congress wouldnt be cooperative. In practice you wanted to elect Bernie so he could be an economic dictator. Taxing everyone in huge amounts at his whim, without the support of the population or Congress. This is different from a Nazi supporting Hitler in the same way, how?

[Patrick Chewing]

This dude legit thinks the government owns everything in Cuba I bet :lol

They do you shit stain.

[bladefd]

The difference is semantic between you running my business openly, or allowing me to run it then taking all my profits thru taxation and calling that socialism. The result is the same. You, the government, decide how MY labor is used.

Thats what you want Bernie to do. Because much of America doesnt want that and Congress wouldnt be cooperative. In practice you wanted to elect Bernie so he could be an economic dictator. Taxing everyone in huge amounts at his whim, without the support of the population or Congress. This is different from a Nazi supporting Hitler in the same way, how?

Let me break this down to the most basic I possibly can..

Under fascism, the money goes into the fuhrer's control, and he answers to nobody (there is nobody being held accountable). If he wanted, he can buy any house, castle, whatever the hell he wants for himself with that money. That means he controls the economics, politics and social aspect. It's pretty much the exact opposite of communism.

Under Bernie's idea of government, he answers to the people, to democracy. The government is held accountable under the system of balances. Bernie has a say in economics, but ultimately Congress gets the legislative aspect and the courts oversee that the laws are followed as judicial branch. Bernie doesn't control economics or social aspect (the only thing he has is executive order, but Congress/Courts can override that). Taxes would still have to go through Congress. Lets say if Bernie passes an executive order raising taxes to 70%, Congress can block that executive order by passing their own bill limiting taxes to 40%. If Bernie vetoes that tax bill, Congress can override the veto with a majority (if it's something unconstitutional, US supreme court can overrule the president too with a majority in Supreme court). That's not fascism. Fascism has no checks and balances.

[coin24]

Yes go deeper into your socialist rubbish OP, cause women weren’t repelled enough before you went down this path :oldlol:

[iamgine]

Jesus Christ, most influential person of all time
Gandhi
MLK, GOAT peaceful revolutionary
Malcolm X
Nehru
Einstein, GOAT intellect and GOAT scientist
Karl Marx, GOAT sociologist and economist
Frederich Engels
Lenin
2Pac, GOAT rapper
LeBron James, GOAT basketball player (he’s a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro
Sigmund Freud, GOAT psychologist
Peter Kropotkin
Leon Trotsky
Angela Davis
George Orwell
Indira Gandhi
Charlie Chaplin, GOAT actor
Huey Newton
John Brown
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Ho Chi Minh
Jean-Paul Sartre
Nelson Mandela
Henry David Thoreau
Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Stalin (yeah he was evil but you can’t deny he made USSR a superpower)
Oscar Wilde
Helen Keller
Mao Zedong (again, he was pretty brutal but he vastly improved China’s standard of living, average lifespan and made them a superpower)
Pablo Picasso, GOAT painter
John Steinbeck
Ernest Hemingway
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

Seriously, this is a who’s who of the GOATs. Who the hell does the center and right have?

How are these people leftists?

Are we just listing names and claim they're leftists?

[Hittin_Shots]

Let me break this down to the most basic I possibly can..

Under fascism, the money goes into the fuhrer's control, and he answers to nobody (there is nobody being held accountable). If he wanted, he can buy any house, castle, whatever the hell he wants for himself with that money. That means he controls the economics, politics and social aspect. It's pretty much the exact opposite of communism.

Under Bernie's idea of government, he answers to the people, to democracy. The government is held accountable under the system of balances. Bernie has a say in economics, but ultimately Congress gets the legislative aspect and the courts oversee that the laws are followed as judicial branch. Bernie doesn't control economics or social aspect (the only thing he has is executive order, but Congress/Courts can override that). Taxes would still have to go through Congress. Lets say if Bernie passes an executive order raising taxes to 70%, Congress can block that executive order by passing their own bill limiting taxes to 40%. If Bernie vetoes that tax bill, Congress can override the veto with a majority (if it's something unconstitutional, US supreme court can overrule the president too with a majority in Supreme court). That's not fascism. Fascism has no checks and balances.

Do u think Trump is a fascist?

[Mr. Woke]

The left tends to be more rational than the right.

[Patrick Chewing]

The left tends to be more rational than the right.

Because killing babies is completely rational.

[Overdrive]

Because killing babies is completely rational.

Indeed it is in a lot situations. It's the emotional/moral aspect that makes it feel wrong.

[RRR3]

How are these people leftists?

Are we just listing names and claim they're leftists?
Google is your friend.

[Patrick Chewing]

Indeed it is in a lot situations. It's the emotional/moral aspect that makes it feel wrong.

Indeed it is to whom? And how so?


How about not getting pregnant in the first place?

[Mr. Woke]

Because killing babies is completely rational.

You sound uneducated/uninformed.

Abortion is one of those things that has to be legal.

There are times when prohibition will reduce the occurrence of the prohibited act, and there are times when the need outweighs the reluctance to breaking the law. Abortion is one of those things that cannot be legislated away, or even reduced, because women will be desperate enough to risk their lives and other people will happily profit from the inflated prices.

This is not theoretical; we have clear and unambiguous evidence that outlawing or restricting abortion doesn’t decrease the frequency. It gets even better, because the data also shows that those countries with the fewest restrictions have the lowest demand for abortion – and almost no abortions are performed after the first trimester. There’s no ambiguity here; if you oppose abortion, you should fight like hell to keep it legal.

Things are grim even if we pretend that prohibiting abortion actually reduced the occurrence. With more than 600,000 abortions taking place each year within the US, fewer abortions would mean hundreds of thousand of unwanted children. Anti-choice advocates talk of adoption, but they don’t seem to have a plan for who will be doing the adopting. If we only count those children in the foster care system who have no home to return to, the ones who are already available for adoption, we’ll see that more than 100,000 children are waiting to be adopted.

Abortion is safe, especially when performed early in the pregnancy or when medication is used. It’s undoubtedly safer than continued childbirth and pregnancy, particularly in the US as we have a very high maternal mortality rate compared to other similarly developed countries. Illegal abortions are not safe, and thousands of women died each year from the procedure prior to Roe v Wade. When abortions are performed by people who lack the proper skill, with improper equipment, the risk of infection and hemorrhage are terrifying.

The most important benefit to keeping abortion legal is that it will protect a woman’s right to bodily autonomy. It means that women won’t be forced into reproductive slavery, that we won’t have suffer through agony and trauma only to bring an unwanted child into the world. That’s the only reason you should need if you believe that women are human beings who are entitled to basic human rights, but if you only care about fetuses and embryos, you should still want to keep abortion legal.

[Axe]

Because killing babies is completely rational.
In what ways?

[Mr. Woke]

Indeed it is to whom? And how so?


How about not getting pregnant in the first place?

It takes two to tango.

If you are against abortion, make sure to only impregnate women who would never get one in the first place. Don't worry so much about what other people do (with regard to abortion).

[Cleverness]

Einstein, GOAT intellect and GOAT scientist

Per your source earlier, Albert was in favor of National Socialism. Isn't this considered far right?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485283-The-smartest-person-of-all-time-was-a-Socialist

[bladefd]

Do u think Trump is a fascist?

Nah

[bladefd]

Per your source earlier, Albert was in favor of National Socialism. Isn't this considered far right?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?485283-The-smartest-person-of-all-time-was-a-Socialist

Einstein was opposed to Nazism, which is why he left Germany when Nazi party took power in early 1930s. He was a liberal/leftist.

[Cleverness]

Einstein was opposed to Nazism, which is why he left Germany when Nazi party took power in early 1930s. He was a liberal/leftist.

Per OP's source, Albert was in favor of National Socialism. Isn't this considered far right?

I'm not saying I agree with Al, just saying that was per OP's source.

Isn't this considered far right?

[Nanners]

Ignoring the fact that not all of the people listed by OP can be realistically called "leftists" or considered "great", the history books are indeed more likely to remember the names of influential liberals than influential conservatives.

The reason for this is not because liberals are inherently greater than conservatives... the reason is because generally speaking liberals challenge societal norms and try to create new ones, while conservatives follow and enforce existing norms. Obviously, the history books are going to write a lot more about people who come along and changed something, rather than people who wanted to keep things the same.

[RRR3]

Per OP's source, Albert was in favor of National Socialism. Isn't this considered far right?

I'm not saying I agree with Al, just saying that was per OP's source.

Isn't this considered far right?
The Nazis weren’t Socialist you tard.

[iamgine]

Google is your friend.

Also yours.

[Mr. Woke]

Conservatives lack imagination, get offended too easily (ex: the anthem kneeling), and care too much about maintaining the status quo.

[bladefd]

Per OP's source, Albert was in favor of National Socialism. Isn't this considered far right?

I'm not saying I agree with Al, just saying that was per OP's source.

Isn't this considered far right?

Nazism is considered fascism ideology and located on the far right end of politics scale. Socialism is considered to be on the left side of the scale going towards communism, which is far left.

[Overdrive]

Indeed it is to whom? And how so?


How about not getting pregnant in the first place?

It's always a rational choice. It's about if you can afford a baby. Either monetary or temporally. That are rational aspects. I doubt people abort for fun.

OT: Some of these are shit, not everyone is a leftist on the list. Some of the most admireable, not greatest, people throughought history are pacifist independend of political affiliation.