If Trump loses and a big if.....Trump 2024?

[Luka Doncic]

GOAT President comes back and runs against Kamala and tells the world I told you so.

Democrats can't run a country.

:confusedshrug:

[BigKobeFan]

GOAT President comes back and runs against Kamala and tells the world I told you so.

Democrats can't run a country.

:confusedshrug:

Don't doubt the Alpha Male

[bladefd]

If Trump loses to the guy Trumpeters have been claiming to have dementia+amnesia in Biden, there is no coming back from that. Republicans in Congress will be very busy trashing Trump for the next few decades, claiming "We never supported Trump and his atrocious presidency." We will find out nobody had supported him or even voted for him, just like with George Bush jr. No Republican had ever voted for Bush jr :oldlol:

And of course, Trump has so many active investigations going into his fraudulent activities, and Biden will do nothing to stop them. Those investigations will be coming to fruition sooner or later. Taxes will come out through those cases, and we will find out which foreign countries he owes money to.

2020 is Trump's final shot at presidency, win or lose.

[starface]

If Trump loses to the guy Trumpeters have been claiming to have dementia+amnesia in Biden, there is no coming back from that. Republicans in Congress will be very busy trashing Trump for the next few decades, claiming "We never supported Trump and his atrocious presidency." We will find out nobody had supported him or even voted for him, just like with George Bush jr. No Republican had ever voted for Bush jr :oldlol:

And of course, Trump has so many active investigations going into his fraudulent activities, and Biden will do nothing to stop them. Those investigations will be coming to fruition sooner or later. Taxes will come out through those cases, and we will find out which foreign countries he owes money to.

2020 is Trump's final shot at presidency, win or lose.


You know George Bush and his entire foreign policy cabinet, including all the people guys like you called evil imperialist war monger, fear monger, literal Hitlers... are in a Super PAC supporting Joe Biden right? They believe Joe Biden is the guy to implement the agenda you were shrieking bloody murder over for 8 straight years. (Until Black Man Good took over and suddenly you didn't mind war and bombs and drone strikes).

That should be a red flag for you, however... as you're but a simple sheep, you have the ability to easily ignore that and just stay the course you're committed to, regardless of how paradoxical and hypocritical it is. Thinking too deeply about it will take you to a place you just aren't comfortable. Better to drink the mainstream kool-aid and keep on keepin on.

The Renaissance Man

[Luka Doncic]

You know George Bush and his entire foreign policy cabinet, including all the people guys like you called evil imperialist war monger, fear monger, literal Hitlers... are in a Super PAC supporting Joe Biden right? They believe Joe Biden is the guy to implement the agenda you were shrieking bloody murder over for 8 straight years. (Until Black Man Good took over and suddenly you didn't mind war and bombs and drone strikes).

That should be a red flag for you, however... as you're but a simple sheep, you have the ability to easily ignore that and just stay the course you're committed to, regardless of how paradoxical and hypocritical it is. Thinking too deeply about it will take you to a place you just aren't comfortable. Better to drink the mainstream kool-aid and keep on keepin on.

The Renaissance Man

For him he’s not woke yet and I recommend him staying asleep. Remember that George Carlin quote? I don’t think blade can live a normal life if he knew what was going on.

[Axe]

Lol you think he'll still run by the time he's almost 80?

[RRR3]

For him he’s not woke yet and I recommend him staying asleep. Remember that George Carlin quote? I don’t think blade can live a normal life if he knew what was going on.
I mean you’re just as asleep as he is.

[Mr. Woke]

Nope.

Republicans can't run a country properly.

There is nothing alpha about the Trumpster fire.

[BigKobeFan]

Nope.

Republicans can't run a country properly.

There is nothing alpha about the Trumpster fire.

Says all the riots, looting, fires, chaz, chop in democratic cities

[Patrick Chewing]

Says all the riots, looting, fires, chaz, chop in democratic cities

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

[Mr. Woke]

Says all the riots, looting, fires, chaz, chop in democratic cities

Typical Republican fear mongering.

Classic.

[BigKobeFan]

Typical Republican fear mongering.

Classic.

How is my response fear mongering. Its about where the destruction takes place

[Patrick Chewing]

trump supporters are coming to terms trump losing is a likely reality, we;re only a week out :roll:

oh boy


Why are you against us? Your life will be worse under Democrats.

[Patrick Chewing]

my life was fine under both obama terms.

i guess if you believe everything alex jones says, then you would think life will be horrible.


And your life hasn’t been fine under Trump? The big bad racist Whiteys are after you??

[Patrick Chewing]

And Obama would be considered a Conservative against today’s Liberals.

[Axe]

it was pretty good, fiscally it has been great. but the political divisiveness he's caused is annoying af. i've removed friends from fb bc i can't stand seeing political memes 24/7.
What kind of political memes? Are they anti, pro or both?

[TheMan]

What kind of political memes? Are they anti, pro or both?

I have a friend who is always sending me pro Trump memes...gonna be hilarious when Trump loses.

[Patrick Chewing]

I have a friend who is always sending me pro Trump memes...gonna be hilarious when Trump loses.

The same Trump you’re voting for lol

[SATAN]

gonna be hilarious when Trump loses.

No more Patrick Chewing on ish :applause:

:oldlol:

[SATAN]

Not that he hasn't already created an alt anyway

[Mr. Woke]

How is my response fear mongering. Its about where the destruction takes place

Open your eyes, Trumplet.

[Axe]

I have a friend who is always sending me pro Trump memes...gonna be hilarious when Trump loses.
Lol many wants to see him lose. They'll laugh so hard if he's really only good for one term.

[Nanners]

You know George Bush and his entire foreign policy cabinet, including all the people guys like you called evil imperialist war monger, fear monger, literal Hitlers... are in a Super PAC supporting Joe Biden right? They believe Joe Biden is the guy to implement the agenda you were shrieking bloody murder over for 8 straight years. (Until Black Man Good took over and suddenly you didn't mind war and bombs and drone strikes).

That should be a red flag for you, however... as you're but a simple sheep, you have the ability to easily ignore that and just stay the course you're committed to, regardless of how paradoxical and hypocritical it is. Thinking too deeply about it will take you to a place you just aren't comfortable. Better to drink the mainstream kool-aid and keep on keepin on.

The Renaissance Man

People are allowed to change, right?

Democrats like Blade opposed the neocon war criminals and their psychopathic ideas/plans (like the endless war on terror) for many years, until they were faced with a far greater evil - a president who posts uncouth comments on twitter.

[starface]

People are allowed to change, right?

Democrats like Blade opposed the neocon war criminals and their psychopathic ideas/plans (like the endless war on terror) for many years, until they were faced with a far greater evil - a president who posts uncouth comments on twitter.

*Sinister organ music plays*

*Bladefd's head goes:*

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackDimAtlanticblackgoby-max-1mb.gif

[Nanners]

*Sinister organ music plays*

*Bladefd's head goes:*

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlackDimAtlanticblackgoby-max-1mb.gif

you can mock Blade all you want, but please remember that our children are seeing those horrible tweets (think of the children) ... another 4 years of trump and were going to wind up with a generation of kids who think its okay to drop the N word when they're playing xbox live

[SATAN]

Another four years of Trump and the rest of the world would respect USA even less, allies included.

tbh

[Nanners]

Good point, because obviously the world had deep respect for the US over the past ~70 years as our military and intel agencies attempted (and largely succeeded) to violently surpress any country that would attempt to use its resources to benefit their own people, instead of using those resources to increase profits for a handful of multinational corporations based in the USA and Europe.

If only we could return to the good ole days when presidents like GW Bush and Obama were using bogus evidence to justify the destruction of countries like Iraq and Libya... no doubt the world respected us a lot more in those days. :oldlol:

[SATAN]

You only bring fourth my point. Yes, the world did. :confusedshrug:

[starface]

Good point, because obviously the world had deep respect for the US over the past ~70 years as our military and intel agencies attempted (and largely succeeded) to violently surpress any country that would attempt to use its resources to benefit their own people, instead of using those resources to increase profits for a handful of multinational corporations based in the USA and Europe.

If only we could return to the good ole days when presidents like GW Bush and Obama were using bogus evidence to justify the destruction of countries like Iraq and Libya... no doubt the world respected us a lot more in those days. :oldlol:


Yeah but tbh, somewhere in a cafe on the streets of Marseille there sits a hipster in skinny jeans and a beret, who thinks L’Homme Orânge is just completely unpresidential.

If we as a nation dont put his opinion at the top of our priority list... then Im sorry to say, but we deserve 9/11 and COVID and an attack by Godzilla.

[Nanners]

Yeah but tbh, somewhere in a cafe on the streets of Marseille there sits a hipster in skinny jeans and a beret, who thinks L’Homme Orânge is just completely unpresidential.

If we as a nation dont put his opinion at the top of our priority list... then Im sorry to say, but we deserve 9/11 and COVID and an attack by Godzilla.

I think its worth noting that when people say "the rest of the world hates Trump" they're referring specifically to the globalist politicians who control those countries, not the feelings of the average citizen.

I have a very close friend who grew up in the hills outside Marseille, and he says that the majority of young folks there HATE Macron and other establishment globalists like him ... so I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of Marseille hipsters actually like Trump

[TheMan]

I think its worth noting that when people say "the rest of the world hates Trump" they're referring specifically to the globalist politicians who control those countries, not the feelings of the average citizen.

I have a very close friend who grew up in the hills outside Marseille, and he says that the majority of young folks there HATE Macron and other establishment globalists like him ... so I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of Marseille hipsters actually like Trump

:oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Another four years of Trump and the rest of the world would respect USA even less, allies included.

tbh

When I vote for Trump, I don't vote for Trump based on what foreigners think about our country.

[Nanners]

When I vote for Trump, I don't vote for Trump based on what foreigners think about our country.

bbbut globalist Macron and his frenchies are laughing at us!

According to all the neocon warmongers who recently left the republican party for the dems, the opinions of a french globalist (and the leaders of other forgettable euro nations) are super important!

[bladefd]

Things will be calmer when the narcissistic pompous guy is out of office. Good riddance.

[RRR3]

Things will be calmer when the narcissistic pompous guy is out of office. Good riddance.
No they won’t. Trump just makes the problems of American society easier to spot, but he didn’t create those problems. People like Biden did.

[Mr. Woke]

Trump is an embarrassment.

Anyone who supports him is a clown.

[Nanners]

No they won’t. Trump just makes the problems of American society easier to spot, but he didn’t create those problems. People like Biden did.

:applause:

Democrats think they can defeat Trump by elevating the people and policies whose actions facilitated the 2016 rise of Trump

Trump is not the disease, he is merely a symptom. The disease is neoliberalism, and until this nation is willing and able to combat this disease directly, we are going to continue to have a diseased political system.

[Luka Doncic]

:applause:

Democrats think they can defeat Trump by elevating the people and policies whose actions facilitated the 2016 rise of Trump

Trump is not the disease, he is merely a symptom. The disease is neoliberalism, and until this nation is willing and able to combat this disease directly, we are going to continue to have a diseased political system.

They won't get it. They would rather get rid of bad orange man and implement the same garbage policies that got Trump elected. There is a reason why we make fun of their intelligence all the time. They are just brainwashed and to the point of no return.

[Patrick Chewing]

I would not be surprised to see Trump re-elected in 2024 if he loses in 2020. That way he can say to his detractors: "I ****ing told you so"

[Patrick Chewing]

and then you would say he lost on purpose on to show the country a lesson right?

:roll: this dude is gonna take a big fat L on Nov. 3

Lost on purpose? Dude, the Democrats tried to sabotage his Presidency. Like, I know you're a youngster, but be smarter man.

Just yesterday it was reported that coverage of Trump in the media is 92% negative. Lost on purpose? My man, what's happening here has always been a coup attempt.


You are just part of the sheeple that actually think Trump is a bad guy. :facepalm

[SATAN]

I think its worth noting that when people say "the rest of the world hates Trump" they're referring specifically to the globalist politicians who control those countries, not the feelings of the average citizen.

I have a very close friend who grew up in the hills outside Marseille, and he says that the majority of young folks there HATE Macron and other establishment globalists like him ... so I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of Marseille hipsters actually like Trump

You have no idea at all. Glad I left.

[bladefd]

How long will it take before Trumpeters start claiming massive voter fraud is why lil Donny lost? I bet it will be the day before election day long before results even start trickling in. :facepalm

[SATAN]

How long will it take before Trumpeters start claiming massive voter fraud is why lil Donny lost? I bet it will be the day before election day long before results even start trickling in. :facepalm

It's already set up. The sheep will play along if told to.

[bladefd]

No they won’t. Trump just makes the problems of American society easier to spot, but he didn’t create those problems. People like Biden did.

Trump didn't create the problems, but let's not act like he was a very kind, friendly and angelic person over the decades or that he somehow was never a part of the swamp. He always was a douchebag going back to the 70s and has done plenty of harm across the country before he was president. And as president, he is making matters worse with his narcissistic behavior and douchebag personality. I'm not saying Biden is going to solve the problems, but things will get calmer.

There has been way too much anxiety last few years. Yeah, plenty of people didn't like Obama, but there was less anxiety overall on average than under Trump. Biden sure as hell is not going to solve the situation, but him doing nothing at all for 4yrs is better than Trump being net negative.

I always said I didn't like or want Biden, but it's him or Trump. A 3rd party person ain't winning.

[Luka Doncic]

Trump didn't create the problems, but let's not act like he was a very kind, friendly and angelic person over the decades or that he somehow was never a part of the swamp. He always was a douchebag going back to the 70s and has done plenty of harm across the country before he was president. And as president, he is making matters worse with his narcissistic behavior and douchebag personality. I'm not saying Biden is going to solve the problems, but things will get calmer.

There has been way too much anxiety last few years. Yeah, plenty of people didn't like Obama, but there was less anxiety overall on average than under Trump. Biden sure as hell is not going to solve the situation, but him doing nothing at all for 4yrs is better than Trump being net negative.

I always said I didn't like or want Biden, but it's him or Trump. A 3rd party person ain't winning.

You are either very scared or fear mongering.

What is this anxiety in the last few years you're talking about from Trump? If this is your rational for voting for the other guy then I want you to get into more specifics.

[SATAN]

Funny how the alt right incels of ish claim everyone who doesn't blindly agree with them is scared of the world yet when you look at their post history... :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Funny how the alt right incels of ish claim everyone who doesn't blindly agree with them is scared of the world yet when you look at their post history... :oldlol:

What are you babbling about? You don't have to agree with us. More like we have to agree with you crybabies, otherwise we're......"racists!" :lol


**** outta here

[Luka Doncic]

Funny how the alt right incels of ish claim everyone who doesn't blindly agree with them is scared of the world yet when you look at their post history... :oldlol:

I'm already over it in regards to trying to get you guys to agree with me.

Now I just want to study the liberal brain and find out how they rationalize.

[Mr. Woke]

Funny how the alt right incels of ish claim everyone who doesn't blindly agree with them is scared of the world yet when you look at their post history... :oldlol:

Bingo. They are pathetic snowflakes.

[BigKobeFan]

I'm already over it in regards to trying to get you guys to agree with me.

Now I just want to study the liberal brain and find out how they rationalize.

You are finally over it? You haven't tried the past 3 years?

[dn41]

Funny how the alt right incels of ish claim everyone who doesn't blindly agree with them is scared of the world yet when you look at their post history... :oldlol:

They are scared little sheeple and that's why they need an autocratic strongmen to tell them what to think and what to do. But don't be afraid Trumplets the adults will take over on Nov. 3. :applause:

[SATAN]

What are you babbling about? You don't have to agree with us. More like we have to agree with you crybabies, otherwise we're......"racists!" :lol


**** outta here

Your post history suggests you ARE racist. :facepalm

[SATAN]

I'm already over it in regards to trying to get you guys to agree with me.

Now I just want to study the liberal brain and find out how they rationalize.

Yeah. No one actually cares, bro. You're completely irrelevant on this forum. Just like BigKobeFan. :facepalm

[TheMan]

If Trump does in fact go on to lose, and with the heavy turn out so far from Democrats, that seems very likely rn, there are several reasons why, apart from the not so stellar response to the pandemic, he has become a run of the mill Republican, just a twitter trolling meanie version of one.

He ran as a populist but hasn't implemented nor pushed through populist legislation. His biggest legislative win was a tax break to the elite and multinational corporations, hardly a win for your average American worker. He has totally abandoned his populist stance, FFS he couldn't even tell Hannity what his second term agenda would be :facepalm I've seen a few of his rallies and they basically become all about him, about how the media and the evil democrats have done him wrong...people don't GAF about that, they want to hear how he's gonna make their lives better. If he loses, it's all on him. I'm a fan of Saajar Enjeti, and even he has pointed this out numerous times.

[RRR3]

Trump didn't create the problems, but let's not act like he was a very kind, friendly and angelic person over the decades or that he somehow was never a part of the swamp. He always was a douchebag going back to the 70s and has done plenty of harm across the country before he was president. And as president, he is making matters worse with his narcissistic behavior and douchebag personality. I'm not saying Biden is going to solve the problems, but things will get calmer.

There has been way too much anxiety last few years. Yeah, plenty of people didn't like Obama, but there was less anxiety overall on average than under Trump. Biden sure as hell is not going to solve the situation, but him doing nothing at all for 4yrs is better than Trump being net negative.

I always said I didn't like or want Biden, but it's him or Trump. A 3rd party person ain't winning.
Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

[ZenMaster]

Anyone up for an election bet?

[Luka Doncic]

Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

:applause:

[TheMan]

Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

If you had a job I think you'd be less angry...









I kid :lol

:cheers:

[bladefd]

Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

Biden is a trash candidate, but you have to look at the situation. Ultimately, there are 5 options in this situation.

1. Don't vote.
2. Vote for Democrat candidate.
3. Vote for Republican candidate.
4. Vote 3rd party.
5. Write in someone not on the ballot.

I am not a proponent of 1 because voting does make a difference in deciding your leader and policy to some degree even though Congress writes the laws.
Options 4 and 5 are worthless. You are never going to realistically get a 3rd party or write-in person to win election in a 2-party system.

That leaves options 2 and 3 in a realistic world then of course, you choose who you feel will be better served with as the leader of your country. At least until next election in of course 2024 (although the election cycle begins in 2023 in lead-up to primary so lets say 2023).

If there's a 6th option I don't see, feel free to point it out. I don't see a 6th option. That's how I look at the process. No politician will ever be my friend, not unless if I know him/her personally. I can only go by what they say (or don't say) and how they act (or don't act).

[BigKobeFan]

Biden is a trash candidate, but you have to look at the situation. Ultimately, there are 5 options in this situation.

1. Don't vote.
2. Vote for Democrat candidate.
3. Vote for Republican candidate.
4. Vote 3rd party.
5. Write in someone not on the ballot.

I am not a proponent of 1 because voting does make a difference in deciding your leader and policy to some degree even though Congress writes the laws.
Options 4 and 5 are worthless. You are never going to realistically get a 3rd party or write-in person to win election in a 2-party system.

That leaves options 2 and 3 in a realistic world then of course, you choose who you feel will be better served with as the leader of your country. At least until next election in of course 2024 (although the election cycle begins in 2023 in lead-up to primary so lets say 2023).

If there's a 6th option I don't see, feel free to point it out. I don't see a 6th option. That's how I look at the process.

6. Move to Canada

[Mr. Woke]

Biden is a trash candidate, but you have to look at the situation. Ultimately, there are 5 options in this situation.

1. Don't vote.
2. Vote for Democrat candidate.
3. Vote for Republican candidate.
4. Vote 3rd party.
5. Write in someone not on the ballot.

I am not a proponent of 1 because voting does make a difference in deciding your leader and policy to some degree even though Congress writes the laws.
Options 4 and 5 are worthless. You are never going to realistically get a 3rd party or write-in person to win election in a 2-party system.

That leaves options 2 and 3 in a realistic world then of course, you choose who you feel will be better served with as the leader of your country. At least until next election in of course 2024 (although the election cycle begins in 2023 in lead-up to primary so lets say 2023).

If there's a 6th option I don't see, feel free to point it out. I don't see a 6th option. That's how I look at the process. No politician will ever be my friend, not unless if I know him/her personally. I can only go by what they say (or don't say) and how they act (or don't act).

He is a better option than the Trumpster fire.

[Luka Doncic]

6. Move to Canada

:roll:

[CelticBaller]

Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

capitalism literally works for every country but it has failed america? lmao

[SATAN]

Blade, your views are probably pretty similar to how mine used to be, so I’m just telling you this because you need to hear it: Biden isn’t your friend. If I thought Biden would be a net neutral for 4 years like you seem to I’d happy vote for him. But he won’t be. He’ll be a huge negative. He has a long history of being a racist authoritarian warhawk corporate stooge who doesn’t take the environment seriously enough. One positive about Trump is he makes the average person more aware that America is ****ed up. If Biden wins a lot of those people will suddenly pretend everything is great. Regardless of who is elected I plan to get involved politically and protest. Capitalism has failed America and we at minimum need social democracy now. The human race and life on earth depend on it.

Can't even tell if trolling anymore.

[RRR3]

:applause:
So you agree we need to move away from capitalism?

[RRR3]

capitalism literally works for every country but it has failed america? lmao
Capitalism is the reason life on earth is in danger of becoming. If you actually take socialism to be what Marx described it as, I’m not sure if it’s been achieved. Lenin ****ed it up with his bullshit about a “vanguard party” and now people associate Marxist-Leninism with Communism which is very wrong. I may troll about MLs but I absolutely detest that ideology. Way too authoritarian. I respect a lot of what Lenin said and his beliefs but the dude was nuts and way too authoritarian. Right now I’d say I favor what Errico Malatesta advocated for; establishing a libertarian socialist society and then gradually moving towards anarchocommunism.

[RRR3]

Can't even tell if trolling anymore.
I’m 100% not trolling about wanting to achieve communism.

[RRR3]

Biden is a trash candidate, but you have to look at the situation. Ultimately, there are 5 options in this situation.

1. Don't vote.
2. Vote for Democrat candidate.
3. Vote for Republican candidate.
4. Vote 3rd party.
5. Write in someone not on the ballot.

I am not a proponent of 1 because voting does make a difference in deciding your leader and policy to some degree even though Congress writes the laws.
Options 4 and 5 are worthless. You are never going to realistically get a 3rd party or write-in person to win election in a 2-party system.

That leaves options 2 and 3 in a realistic world then of course, you choose who you feel will be better served with as the leader of your country. At least until next election in of course 2024 (although the election cycle begins in 2023 in lead-up to primary so lets say 2023).

If there's a 6th option I don't see, feel free to point it out. I don't see a 6th option. That's how I look at the process. No politician will ever be my friend, not unless if I know him/her personally. I can only go by what they say (or don't say) and how they act (or don't act).
I voted Green because I want them to get to 5% for representation in 2024 and they are much closer to my values than the two main parties. I live in a red state so that is actually a more worthwhile use of my vote. But I wouldn’t vote for Biden even if I lived in a swing state. **** him. It’s not my fault people on the left aren’t voting for the Green Party. We need to break the duopoly. Electing Biden gets us president Tom Cotton in 2024 unless the Democrats are smart enough to not rat**** AOC in the primary (unlikely, sadly).

[CelticBaller]

Capitalism is the reason life on earth is in danger of becoming. If you actually take socialism to be what Marx described it as, I’m not sure if it’s been achieved. Lenin ****ed it up with his bullshit about a “vanguard party” and now people associate Marxist-Leninism with Communism which is very wrong. I may troll about MLs but I absolutely detest that ideology. Way too authoritarian. I respect a lot of what Lenin said and his beliefs but the dude was nuts and way too authoritarian. Right now I’d say I favor what Errico Malatesta advocated for; establishing a libertarian socialist society and then gradually moving towards anarchocommunism.

Capitalism is fine. Marxism is unattainable as long as there is a state overseeing. Humans by nature are power hungry.

[RRR3]

Capitalism is fine. Marxism is unattainable as long as there is a state overseeing. Humans by nature are power hungry.
I’m not a Marxist and if you think capitalism is fine you are speaking from a very privileged point of view.

[CelticBaller]

I’m not a Marxist and if you think capitalism is fine you are speaking from a very privileged point of view.

It depends, what do you consider privilege? my parents are immigrants who came into this country with nothing in hand and now have their own small business. Compared to them yeah I'm kinda privileged since I was able to get a college degree here, but probably compared to you I wasn't, I was basically raised in the hood.

If you want to point to some poor african country i can also point to some rich european country. At the end of the day capitalism is fine, the problem has and will always be the state

[Axe]

Iphone wouldn't be an overpriced pos without capitalism.

[diamenz]

Iphone wouldn't be an overpriced pos without capitalism.

without capitalism everybody would have obamaphones.