1992-93 NBA Altercations, Taunting, & Fights Mix (SportsCenter)

[Round Mound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eikxr8jMXQo

Man have things changed in the NBA from my youth :lol

I don't support violence but the NBA was alot tougher back then and contact was allowed :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

That Bol swing at 4:23 is too much. :roll:

[Round Mound]

That Bol swing at 4:23 is too much. :roll:

lol :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

I love the number of times you hear the word "Oakley" in there.

The league obviously got softer but a lot of young fans genuinely cant get their heads around how the physical play made it harder to play well at times and accordingly....makes the people who remember that time have a little extra respect for the players who still thrived. Great is great. Todays great players would be great then and those great players would be great now. But we would get to see todays guys deal with a little more physical adversity and thats not always a bad thing when evaluating a player. I dont know how tough a lot of todays guys are because they dont often get a chance to need to be tough. When old guys say that kids think you mean the head splitting malone elbows and all....and we dont. We all hated Karl Malone for that shit even then. We mean the general added layer of physicality that makes it a little harder to take over.

It would be nice to see what some of these guys would do vs some of these goon squads.

Just be another aspect of the game to see them adjust to.

[tpols]

i will admit it makes you more emotionally invested. it makes you wanna fight a *****.

[tpols]

Reggie got punched in the face by MJ, and got ejected for it lmao. never change league. :oldlol:

[starface]

Amazing that was all from 1 season too. It does put into perspective how much the league has changed.

Def takes me back to those ESPN good ol days. Watching Sports Center every morning while I was supposed to be getting ready for school. Every highlight in that video I'm sure I saw at the time it aired, watching as a 9 year old in front of a boxy television in the living room while eating frosted mini wheats.

Now the league is soft, the network is politically correct, and the players are woke.

What a time.

[L.Kizzle]

I started watching basketball in the 94-95 Season, so this is the NBA I grew up on.
When the players from back then say the league is soft and has changed they're not hating. That's how they played.

[Bronbron23]

Yeah its good they got rid of the goon shit but i do miss the physical play and intensity. Maybe you cant have one without the other though so they just got rid of it all.

[Mr. Woke]

The game is just as physical nowadays.

Anyone can cherrypick some heated moments and make it seem like the NBA was tougher 30 years ago when that really wasn't the case.

Boomers need to take off the nostalgia goggles.

[Bronbron23]

The game is just as physical nowadays.

Anyone can cherrypick some heated moments and make it seem like the NBA was tougher 30 years ago when that really wasn't the case.

Boomers need to take off the nostalgia goggles.

Yeah ok buddy. The league put rules in to stop this shit. Its in there own mandate its not even arguable. The nba is definitely way less physical now.

[tpols]

@ 11:34 you'll see coaches fighting refs including sloan. :lol

[Kblaze8855]

Yeah ok buddy. The league put rules in to stop this shit. Its in there own mandate its not even arguable. The nba is definitely way less physical now.

I don’t know why people who weren’t there insist on having opinions....

It being more violent is just a fact. And it extended beyond player on player too.

A ref I came up watching had to call a game with a broken hand because he punched a fan in the face for heckling him. Same ref beat up Dick Bavetta for overruling a call of his and in his early days got into a fight with the GM of the Hawks. This was a few years after a coach punched the owner of the Hawks in the face in the middle of a game and got a 300 dollar fine for it.

Cedric Maxwell wasn’t suspended or even ejected for fighting these fans right here in a playoff game:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BountifulAccomplishedAlaskankleekai-size_restricted.gif




Which was like the third fight of that series. He had 19 in a one point win the next game(game 7) and won finals mvp next series. Today he’d have been suspended the playoffs and probably all of the following season and changed history.

There was simply a lot more tolerance for the physical conflict that came with playing to win and players not being all buddy buddy like today.

Everyone grows up together now. Half the league played each other in AAU and the player movement makes half the league your teammates at some point. Guys are friends now.

50s to 90s guys were adversaries for 10-15 years at a time and grudges built up.

Comparing the physical nature of a game today to like...a Knicks/Heat game where like 7 guys on each side have fought someone on the other team is just stupid. Like...nothing about this was unexpected:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PopularTartJaeger-size_restricted.gif




That’s what you get when the Knicks play the Heat.


Fans who got into the game after the nba got shook and cleaned it up are just never gonna understand it.

Danny Ainge and Isiah Thomas fought like 15 people a piece. I can remember 4 centers alone Isiah brawled with. Danny Ainge nearly bit Kevin Willis finger off and I think it was the same year Isiah hopped on his back and put him in a choke hold.

That shit does not happen today. And maybe it shouldn’t. But it is what it is.

[Mr. Woke]

Yeah ok buddy. The league put rules in to stop this shit. Its in there own mandate its not even arguable. The nba is definitely way less physical now.

You are wrong buddy boy.

[Bronbron23]

You are wrong buddy boy.

Sure. Its all just one big conspiracy and even the nba is in on it:facepalm

[Mr. Woke]

Sure. Its all just one big conspiracy and even the nba is in on it:facepalm

90s babies need to take off the nostalgia goggles.

[Bronbron23]

I don’t know why people who weren’t there insist on having opinions....

It being more violent is just a fact. And it extended beyond player on player too.

A ref I came up watching had to call a game with a broken hand because he punched a fan in the face for heckling him. Same ref beat up Dick Bavetta for overruling a call of his and in his early days got into a fight with the GM of the Hawks. This was a few years after a coach punched the owner of the Hawks in the face in the middle of a game and got a 300 dollar fine for it.

Cedric Maxwell wasn’t suspended or even ejected for fighting these fans right here in a playoff game:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BountifulAccomplishedAlaskankleekai-size_restricted.gif




Which was like the third fight of that series. He had 19 in a one point win the next game(game 7) and won finals mvp next series. Today he’d have been suspended the playoffs and probably all of the following season and changed history.

There was simply a lot more tolerance for the physical conflict that came with playing to win and players not being all buddy buddy like today.

Everyone grows up together now. Half the league played each other in AAU and the player movement makes half the league your teammates at some point. Guys are friends now.

50s to 90s guys were adversaries for 10-15 years at a time and grudges built up.

Comparing the physical nature of a game today to like...a Knicks/Heat game where like 7 guys on each side have fought someone on the other team is just stupid. Like...nothing about this was unexpected:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PopularTartJaeger-size_restricted.gif




That’s what you get when the Knicks play the Heat.


Fans who got into the game after the nba got shook and cleaned it up are just never gonna understand it.

Danny Ainge and Isiah Thomas fought like 15 people a piece. I can remember 4 centers alone Isiah brawled with. Danny Ainge nearly bit Kevin Willis finger off and I think it was the same year Isiah hopped on his back and put him in a choke hold.

That shit does not happen today. And maybe it shouldn’t. But it is what it is.

Yeah its dumb as hell. These dudes are literally arguing facts. They probably think the earth is flat also

[Mr. Woke]

Even if that were true, brawls have no place in basketball.

Good thing the NBA has evolved and isn't primitive anymore.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I honestly don't get the appeal of this type of stuff. If i wanted to watch fighting i would (and do) watch MMA or boxing. I'm glad it's largely gone.

[Bronbron23]

Even if that were true, brawls have no place in basketball.

Good thing the NBA has evolved and isn't primitive anymore.

Yeah you definitely came up in this generation. Nothing wrong with a good fight to settle shit. The dirty hits are goonish though and they have no place. Nothing wrong with fighting though.

[Bronbron23]

I honestly don't get the appeal of this type of stuff. If i wanted to watch fighting i would (and do) watch MMA or boxing. I'm glad it's largely gone.

Or you can get both. And its not like it was all time. Whats wrong with a fight here and there?

[Mr. Woke]

Yeah you definitely came up in this generation. Nothing wrong with a good fight to settle shit. The dirty hits are goonish though and they have no place. Nothing wrong with fighting though.

Nope. I am 48 years old.

Fighting has no place in basketball. Watch a combat sport if you want to watch people fight.

[dbugz]

libron won't be able to handle those. That mental midget is going to fold right away.

[Kblaze8855]

A sport being altered in a couple leagues after 120 years doesn’t mean it finally became what it really is.

The extreme vast majority of basketball games were not played under modern soft nba regulations and the nba rules committee does not own and operate basketball.

Basketball was more physical than it is now in the nba for its entire existence and in most of the world it still is now.

[tpols]

Even if that were true, brawls have no place in basketball.

Good thing the NBA has evolved and isn't primitive anymore.

I dont know... it's weird. When I would see a fight break out for my team, it would kind of make me want to fight. it gets you excited. When I watch MMA or whatever I rarely get amped like that no matter who I'm rooting for. there's something beautiful about the chaos of a brawl compared to a clean 1v1.

[Kblaze8855]

It’s really really isn’t about fighting. Young people see the clips of fights and think the actual punches thrown is what old people miss. It isn’t. It’s the physical competition that occasionally would lead to fights....but the fight is 8 seconds. The whole game is the issue. The increased buy in from not liking the opponent. The guys having to stand up for themselves and not be embarrassed. We all see how exciting it is when guys play mad. Imagine Lebron as angry Lebron....but not in 5-6 games. Almost all the time. It’s just more compelling when the players have a little animosity. There aren’t many incidents of real fighting here:




https://youtu.be/4wLW2UwkcG4



But the atmosphere and will to win those guys show absolutely make for better watching.

Jordan would literally get ejected from most games under today’s rules just for taunting that series.

Who does that help?

How is the game improved by having to stifle the emotions of guys like that being exciting during competition?


It was just a better fan experience all around. It was never about someone getting actually punched.

[tpols]

Agreed but I dont know about angry Lebron... seeing him do slip n slide flops when dudes like nazr mohammed step to him. I honestly can't see him being a tough guy lol. Angry Barkley looked truly mean and would never pull those stunts.

[LonelyOwl]

90s babies need to take off the nostalgia goggles.
This :oldlol:

[Bronbron23]

Nope. I am 48 years old.

Fighting has no place in basketball. Watch a combat sport if you want to watch people fight.

Or i can get both at the same time like hockey. Its a physical game and its a bunch of men. Shits gonna happen. We can disagree, fight then have a beer after. Whats the problem?

[Reggie43]

Mark Jackson almost died showing off his hops lol. Love how he was having fun with his former Knicks teammates as a Clipper.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I have that game where Mike and Miller fought.

MJ should have been ejected, but Miller started the altercation by shoving dude outta bounce. Either way, Mike got to stay and hung 40 points on em :lol