Beasley and Wall playing some pretty intense pickup ball.

[Kblaze8855]

https://youtu.be/NZPkZR8GfeI


Beasley looks in good shape. Both of them do.

The pre injury Wall would be of some use right now.

You know some team with a short window would take a long look at Wall contract and all.

If the Bucks could get a healthy Wall you know they wouldn’t care. It’s all in or rebuild time.

[Xiao Yao You]

https://youtu.be/NZPkZR8GfeI


Beasley looks in good shape. Both of them do.

The pre injury Wall would be of some use right now.

You know some team with a short window would take a long look at Wall contract and all.

If the Bucks could get a healthy Wall you know they wouldn’t care. It’s all in or rebuild time.

Bucks need shooters around Giannis. That's the problem they have with Bledsoe. Should have kept Brogdan instead

[Lebron23]

https://youtu.be/NZPkZR8GfeI


Beasley looks in good shape. Both of them do.

The pre injury Wall would be of some use right now.

You know some team with a short window would take a long look at Wall contract and all.

If the Bucks could get a healthy Wall you know they wouldn’t care. It’s all in or rebuild time.

I was planning to create a thread about it. Good stuff. Beasley deserves another chance in the nba.

[r0drig0lac]

Bucks need shooters around Giannis. That's the problem they have with Bledsoe. Should have kept Brogdan instead

disagree, Bucks needs good offensive players (guys who can score on their own), Oladipo, Demar type of player.

[Xiao Yao You]

I was planning to create a thread about it. Good stuff. Beasley deserves another chance in the nba.

he's had countless ones already. Guy can score the basketball. Obviously that's not enough

[pandiani17]

he's had countless ones already. Guy can score the basketball. Obviously that's not enough

It's an every off-season topic, actually. Beasley will have his breakout year this season. Like it was with Stromile Swift or Jonathan Bender back in the day. To be honest, I think he could be an important role-player in the NBA, but he has got some things (lack of defense, lack of consistency, not many signs of professionalism) that keeps teams at an arms' length from him. Otherwise, he would have been a great second or third option.

[pandiani17]

Also, is it me or does John Wall look a bit fat?

[TheGoatest]

Beasley is Kyle Kuzma's tweener predecessor. Except unlike Kuzma, he was relatively efficient at scoring.

[2000sbasketball]

John Wall looks a bit heavy to me

[ralph_i_el]

Also, is it me or does John Wall look a bit fat?

He's looking more muscular to me than he did before.

He's not lifting the ball as high/over his head as before. Hopefully that translates to a more consistent shot. He gets so much space to shoot, it never made sense for him to shoot such high-release shots leaning backwards.

He had a problem with bone spurs in his heel before the Achilles. Allegedly he's back from BOTH injuries. It's been a really really long time since Wall was healthy. If he sees an uptick in 3's, replaces some long 2's with 3's, he could be back at all-star level.

I always wonder why Wall doesn't post up more on mismatches. Teams always try to wear him out chasing small guards around the perimeter, but he rarely changes up his style to deal with these mismatches on the other end. I remember he used to get a few touches down low in his rookie year, and he looked pretty good. I hope they took the last year to analyze ways he can play better outside of running pick and rolls.

[Kblaze8855]

It does feel like he’s been gone for years but this is vs Lebron on the Lakers:


https://youtu.be/p3gN_aLEv6A

And this was 4 days from that:



https://youtu.be/yjTPXRfyzLU



He’s probably got a lot in the tank. He turned 30 a month ago.

[red1]

wall will be back and balling in the leauge. guaranteed.



if he caught that achilles injury any later in his career it would be a different story



and we all know kd will be back lighting up as well. zero doubt about that.

[Jasper]

I don't know if the Bucks could trust Wall in playoff games... compared to CP3

[Smoke117]

lol Michael Beasley? Why isn't this guy playing in the CBA? It's hilarious how people talk about him like what could have been blah blah...hasn't this clown been on about 10 ****ing teams? I guess they just didn't "get it", right? Some idiot saying he would have been a 2nd or 3rd option on a great team....lmfao...this guys ceiling even if he had his head on straight was a 6th man. He has some skill, but his athleticism is atrocious NBA wise. He's just slow. More than that he's ****ING LAZY. He's accepted his physical deficiencies and done absolutely nothing to try and battle back forth...with like hard work, ethics, high bbiq...etc. He was never NBA material.

[Kblaze8855]

He played more than 600 games in the NBA. I think thats well past proving youre nba material.

[Smoke117]

He played more than 600 games in the NBA. I think thats well past proving youre nba material.

So he's been on about 10 teams over 10 years or so? He's a consummate **** up...and trust me, I know about that. The guys been on about 4 million teams. I'd imagine that says a lot about him more than it says about those teams. I think the most annoying think about Beasley is that people think he'd be some great player "if he had his head on straight". He has not athleticism or agility, is lazy as ****, and smokes weed 24/7....yeah I wouldn't want this guy on my team and I smoke weed 24/7. Shit makes you lazy. Regardless. He's just not that good. He had enough great talent to build enough skill on his lazy worth ethic to give himself a solid NBA career and he did NOTHING WITH IT.

[Kblaze8855]

Obviously there were issues. Im just saying a 10 year vet who played 600+ games and made 40+ million dollars is a hard sell as a guy who wasnt NBA material. Hes a bust but not to the extent hes high on a list. We arent talking a guy like Anthony Bennett here.

[Mauzah]

It's almost as if he thinks his youth will last forever. He clearly loves basketball, why not hoop and collect cheques at the highest level while you can? Shame.

[oldtimer28]

[QUOTE=pandiani17;14171921]Also, is it me or does John Wall look a bit fat?[


yes. Heavy . Not Dunk Comp fit

[HylianNightmare]

Was really hoping Beasley would ball out after the suspension for the nets

[Clifton]

Giannis answers the question: What if John Wall were 7 feet tall?

It's the same thing where the athleticism and the attitude are great, but there's something lacking with the finesse and with the vision that prevents them from being truly elite.

(And by saying 'not truly elite,' for Wall I mean top 8 in the league, and for Giannis I mean best player.)

[Ben Simmons]

Kblaze no way you havent seen the nba long enough to know that pick up basketball is useless when it comes to discussing how players will look in game.

Beasley will be useless and not get any relative minutes. Wall will be far diminished and his contract is untradeable

[Kblaze8855]

Who said Beasley was even coming back?

And "untradeable" might as well be retired now. Like 4 contracts deemed so have moved lately. And 2 are probably gonna do it again. John Walls deal is Tobias Harris plus like...an MLE. Its Otto Porter plus Thaddeus Young. Hell Randle plus Bobby Portis can be traded for John Wall. Rozier and Biyambo match him salary wise. People have not yet caught up to how much role players make these days. All contracts can be moved and when you see Chris Pauls moved for the second time in 2 years I hope that sinks in. There are so many awful deals out there its easy to move them around if he looks halfway decent.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

100% Agree. If he is close to what he was I can totally see like Horford for Wall or Harris for Wall trade. People act like Durant is gonna be a-okay and Wall is worthless now even though they had the same injury and are about the same age. I agree that the prognosis for Durant may be better given his skillset, but I wouldn't rule out Wall being pretty good again.

And he was pretty good. When healthy he was like all-nba 3rd team (which is why he got that contract). You can argue he didn't deserve it but people act like he was Jerryd Bayless or something.

[Clifton]

There are so many awful deals out there its easy to move them around if he looks halfway decent.
Right. It seems like half the league makes either 20 or 40 mil a year, and most of these contracts will be expiring contracts in a year or two. You just move the guy you don't want for someone else's guy they don't want. None of these 40 mil players are bad. Just swap until you've got the one you want like Daryl Morey. Or unload to some team for two 20 mil guys.

[pandiani17]

100% Agree. If he is close to what he was I can totally see like Horford for Wall or Harris for Wall trade. People act like Durant is gonna be a-okay and Wall is worthless now even though they had the same injury and are about the same age. I agree that the prognosis for Durant may be better given his skillset, but I wouldn't rule out Wall being pretty good again.

And he was pretty good. When healthy he was like all-nba 3rd team (which is why he got that contract). You can argue he didn't deserve it but people act like he was Jerryd Bayless or something.

Of course he was good. He was a multiple-time all-star and he led his team to the second round several times, something other stars haven't done yet.