View Full Version : whats better: 4/4 or 4/10, iq quiz. wanna make sure all educate, no child left behind
And1AllDay
10-31-2020, 10:48 AM
Which is better?
10 years
4/4 + six 1st round loss (16th place)
4/10 (zero 1st rd loss, finals loss = 2nd place at worst)
8Ball
10-31-2020, 10:51 AM
:lol. Someone photoshop that in here.
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3ball
10-31-2020, 01:23 PM
4/4 isn't better than 4/10
but it isn't worse, since the Finals-appearances of the 4/10 guy were conference-dependant - the 6 times he lost the Finals were years that he wouldn't make the Finals out west
Ultimately, no one cares about whether you can beat 2nd round winners.. beating Finals teams is what matters
Carry on the fraud and misperception tho
Kiddlovesnets
10-31-2020, 02:04 PM
For a player outside of top 15 all time, 4/10 > 4/4 since each trip to the finals improves his legacy. For a player between 6 to 15, 4/10 = 4/4 since each final trip or loss does not affect his legacy. For top 5 all time, 4/10 < 4/4 since each loss in the finals hurts his legacy. For GOAT, any loss in Finals disqualifies the player from this conversation, you cant lose once in the finals at all.
3ball
10-31-2020, 02:06 PM
For a player outside of top 15 all time, 4/10 > 4/4 since each trip to the finals improves his legacy. For a player between 6 to 15, 4/10 = 4/4 since each final trip or loss does not affect his legacy. For top 5 all time, 4/10 < 4/4 since each loss in the finals hurts his legacy. For GOAT, any loss in Finals disqualifies the player from this conversation, you cant lose once in the finals at all.
Indeed, only Jordan was undefeated with 1 or 2 seeds (6-0), while everyone else lost 5+ times with 1 or 2 seeds - Kareem lost 7 times, lebron 5 times, Bird 5 times, etc, etc.. for everyone except the goat
SouBeachTalents
10-31-2020, 02:15 PM
For a player outside of top 15 all time, 4/10 > 4/4 since each trip to the finals improves his legacy. For a player between 6 to 15, 4/10 = 4/4 since each final trip or loss does not affect his legacy. For top 5 all time, 4/10 < 4/4 since each loss in the finals hurts his legacy. For GOAT, any loss in Finals disqualifies the player from this conversation, you cant lose once in the finals at all.
There's just no way you can actually believe LeBron did more damage to his legacy in 2018 than 2019, just no fcking way :lol I refuse to believe anybody is really that stupid
Marchesk
10-31-2020, 02:18 PM
I'd rather be 5/7 than 4/10 in the finals tbh.
Kiddlovesnets
10-31-2020, 02:20 PM
There's just no way you can actually believe LeBron did more damage to his legacy in 2018 than 2019, just no fcking way :lol I refuse to believe anybody is really that stupid
In 2019 the Lakers team was shit, its not Lebron's fault that they couldnt win the title. Also lets not forget that Lebron was injured for a good portion of the season, and the young players stopped caring after the trade rumor. You cant blame Lebron for that.
In 2018 though, well lets not even talk about winning the finals, theres no excuse for Lebron to be swept when the Spurs and Pelicans won 1 game against the Warriors team(Rockets won 3). Even if losing in the finals 2018 wouldnt hurt Lebron's legacy, getting swept surely damaged his legacy a lot.
3ball
10-31-2020, 02:21 PM
There's just no way you can actually believe LeBron did more damage to his legacy in 2018 than 2019, just no fcking way :lol I refuse to believe anybody is really that stupid
2018 sounds good because he made the Finals, but anyone can beat shit teams, so it isn't respected..... especially if you have the best sidekick in the conference (love was the best 1st option in the conference outside of bron, arguably)
Everyone knows that lebron loses in the 1st or 2nd Round out West - that's why winning the Finals matters, otherwise your appearance was conference-dependant
Kiddlovesnets
10-31-2020, 02:23 PM
2018 sounds good because he made the Finals, but anyone can beat shit teams, so it isn't respected..... especially if they have the best sidekick in the conference (love would've been the best 1st option in the conference, arguably)
Everyone knows that lebron loses in the 1st or 2nd Round out West - that's why winning the Finals matters, otherwise your appearance was conference-dependant
A quick fact: The Cavs were the only team to be swept by the Warriors in 2018, who won 58 games and aint a historical team like they were in 2017. The Kawhi-less Spurs won 1 game, Pelicans who matched up poorly against GSW won 1 game, and Rockets won 3. I cant find any explanation why, Lebron couldnt even win a game. One could make some solid arguments if he lost in 6, but not when he got swept.
3ball
10-31-2020, 02:37 PM
A quick fact: The Cavs were the only team to be swept by the Warriors in 2018, who won 58 games and aint a historical team like they were in 2017. The Kawhi-less Spurs won 1 game, Pelicans who matched up poorly against GSW won 1 game, and Rockets won 3. I cant find any explanation why, Lebron couldnt even win a game. One could make some solid arguments if he lost in 6, but not when he got swept.
Lebron was beat by record amount in the 18' Finals and the 14' Finals
Every Western team outperformed Lebron's team against the Spurs/Warriors those years.. so it's clear that lebron's Eastern champs would be a 1st Round team out West in those years
That's why the argument of how teams fell off is false - the 14' heat and 18' Cavs were the equivalent of 1st round Western teams that fell to lottery due to Wade/Bosh/love injuries.. the 15' heat missed the 8 seed by 1/2 game despite Wade/Bosh missing 40 games
Of course, any team falls off without their ball-dominator.. Nash and cp3 teams cratered without them in 12' and 13'.. otoh, ball movement teams like the Spurs, Warriors, 20' Raptors or 90's bulls keep moving the ball without their stars and don't fall off as much as ball-dominator teams
Shooter
10-31-2020, 03:45 PM
# of players with
10 finals: 3
6 rings: 14
You tell me
Kiddlovesnets
10-31-2020, 03:47 PM
# of players with
10 finals: 3
6 rings: 14
You tell me
Well 6 out of the 10 finals are, losses...
dankok8
10-31-2020, 03:50 PM
4/10 is a bit better than 4/4 because you're still making more Finals. However 5/5 is already better than 4/10 because more rings is what matters most.
Manny98
10-31-2020, 03:56 PM
4 Gold's and 6 Silvers vs 4 Golds
The answer is easy
Shooter
10-31-2020, 04:43 PM
4 Gold's and 6 Silvers vs 4 Golds
The answer is easy
Bingo
Manny98
10-31-2020, 05:01 PM
Honestly having a perfect finals record proves you never faced anyone tough in the finals so it's less impressive
Shooter
10-31-2020, 05:08 PM
Imagine only making 6 Finals
Kobe made 7
pandiani17
10-31-2020, 05:48 PM
There's just no way you can actually believe LeBron did more damage to his legacy in 2018 than 2019, just no fcking way :lol I refuse to believe anybody is really that stupid
Agree 100%. But it's groundhog day here, I find it funny how they say now that for Top 50 players it's better this and for Top 5 players it's better that. You can see the bias.
8Ball
10-31-2020, 06:42 PM
Imagine only making 6 Finals
Kobe made 7
Yeah even Shaq made 6 finals.
kawhileonard2
10-31-2020, 10:20 PM
4 Gold's and 6 Silvers vs 4 Golds
The answer is easy
How about 2 bronze medals in basketball? Any bronze medal in basketball is a disgrace.
Bronbron23
10-31-2020, 10:27 PM
Which is better?
10 years
4/4 + six 1st round loss (16th place)
4/10 (zero 1st rd loss, finals loss = 2nd place at worst)
4 for 10 obviously but its not likes its a crazy amount better. Both still won 4 and lost 6.
Shooter
10-31-2020, 10:33 PM
4 for 10 obviously but its not likes its a crazy amount better. Both still won 4 and lost 6.
You're disregarding 10 Conference Championships too lightly. Let me help, do you know how many players have ever made 10 Finals?
Shooter
10-31-2020, 10:34 PM
MJ stains are jacking off to Stockon and Malone with 2 Finals APPEARANCES. So it's convenient to use when propping up opponents but not when propping up LeBron? Got it...:lol
Baller789
10-31-2020, 11:47 PM
You're disregarding 10 Conference Championships too lightly. Let me help, do you know how many players have ever made 10 Finals?
So whats Lebrons finals record?
Also kareem's and Bills?
Shooter
10-31-2020, 11:59 PM
So whats Lebrons finals record?
Also kareem's and Bills?
Quiet WelfareFan bish. Get banned again
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8Ball
11-01-2020, 12:04 AM
So whats Lebrons finals record?
Also kareem's and Bills?
Wait a minute. Talking about dodging. You won't answer the thread question, but now you are asking us other questions?
:roll:
Quiet WelfareFan bish. Get banned again
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This guy going from thread to thread desperately asking us about LeBron like a beggar on the street.
Kick rocks.
Quiet WelfareFan bish. Get banned again
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