LeBron James's dominance in 17 seasons is unprecedented

[RoundMoundOfReb]

-NEVER Lost in the 1st Round
-16x All Star
-16x All NBA
-13x All-NBA First Team
-1x Scoring champion
-3x Playoff Scoring Champion
-1x Assist champion
-6x All Defensive team
-4x NBA Champion
-9x Eastern Conference Chamion
-1x Western Conference Chamion
-4x Finals MVP (With 3 different teams)
-4x League MVP
-3x AP Athlete of the year*
-1x AP Athlete of the decade
-1x J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award
-1x USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year
-2x Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year*
-2x Olympic Gold Medalist
-3x All star Game MVP
-Won ROY

:applause:

*2020 Not yet awarded but good chance of winning another

[Gus Hemmingway]

7,500 as well OP, 7,500, might be the GOAT accomplishment

[Bronbron23]

-NEVER Lost in the 1st Round
-16x All Star
-16x All NBA
-13x All-NBA First Team
-1x Scoring champion
-3x Playoff Scoring Champion
-1x Assist champion
-6x All Defensive team
-4x NBA Champion
-9x Eastern Conference Chamion
-1x Western Conference Chamion
-4x Finals MVP (With 3 different teams)
-4x League MVP
-3x AP Athlete of the year*
-1x AP Athlete of the decade
-1x J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award
-1x USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year
-2x Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year*
-2x Olympic Gold Medalist
-3x All star Game MVP
-Won ROY

:applause:

*2020 Not yet awarded but good chance of winning another

He didn't dominate 17 years though. You cant be dominant when you lose. Mj wasn't dominant in the 80's. Mj didn't dominate in 95. At least mj practiactually dominated a decade. The most wins bron has in any decade is 2 so he couldn't even do that. Mj has dominated. Russell has dominated. Bron has never really dominated.

[Stanley Kobrick]

He didn't dominate 17 years though. You cant be dominant when you lose. Mj wasn't dominant in the 80's. Mj didn't dominate in 95. At least mj practiactually dominated a decade. The most wins bron has in any decade is 2 so he couldn't even do that. Mj has dominated. Russell has dominated. Bron has never really dominated.
it would be nice if you could just appreciate greatness and stop player bashing. this thread isn't about michael or even named him, no need to be insecure

[HoopsNY]

No one was as dominant as Bill Russell and the Celtics, and that includes MJ and LeBron.

[HoopsNY]

it would be nice if you could just appreciate greatness and stop player bashing. this thread isn't about michael or even named him, no need to be insecure

You do realize someone put up a post about MJ's 11 years of dominance with the same words as the OP, right? Obviously the post was about countering the MJ narrative.

[SATAN]

No one was as dominant as Bill Russell and the Celtics, and that includes MJ and LeBron.

lmao give LeBron those crash test dummies

[RRR3]

Dumbdumb23 is just sobbing about LeBron all day now :oldlol:

[HoopsNY]

lmao give LeBron those crash test dummies

Well, I'm glad the all-time greats are "crash test dummies" to you. You're just more proof as to how young people today have no appreciation, critical thinking skills, or intellect to begin with.

Yes, we know, the league began in 2010. The only player that counts prior is LeBron, since he played from 2003-09, conveniently. There is no league for 60 years (except LeBron). Go figure.

[SATAN]

Calm down Joe Kleine :oldlol:

I been watching since the 80s and think LeBron would still have the same kind of career no matter the era. Possibly better. The greats are exactly that. Feel free to tell me why not.

[HoopsNY]

Calm down Joe Kleine :oldlol:

I been watching since the 80s and think LeBron would still have the same kind of career no matter the era. Possibly better. The greats are exactly that. Feel free to tell me why not.

Pretty frightening that you've been watching basketball since the 80s but somehow discuss basketball like you're 18. Let's just agree to disagree; though it's pretty simple - the league is inferior pre-2010 (magically except for LeBron who played between 2003-10.)

There are no arguments to legitimize the game, its style, and players before it (magically except for LeBron who played between 2003-10).

[SATAN]

Thanks for showing us how ignorant YOU are. Bravo :applause:

[HoopsNY]

Thanks for showing us how ignorant YOU are. Bravo :applause:

That must be it. :lol When all else fails, simply resort to ad hominem, sloganeering, red herrings, and an obvious obfuscation of the facts.

So is the league inferior or not pre-2010? Why should we disregard the Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, and Kobe era? If all these guys and the league itself were inferior, then why not focus on post 2010 and make two different all-time lists?

[SATAN]

Pretty frightening that you've been watching basketball since the 80s but somehow discuss basketball like you're 18. Let's just agree to disagree; though it's pretty simple - the league is inferior pre-2010 (magically except for LeBron who played between 2003-10.)

There are no arguments to legitimize the game, its style, and players before it (magically except for LeBron who played between 2003-10).


Look at this shit :oldlol::oldlol: You can't make this up :facepalm Get off your high horse and actually say something relevant. Some meat and bones or else **** off.

[SATAN]

That must be it. :lol When all else fails, simply resort to ad hominem, sloganeering, red herrings, and an obvious obfuscation of the facts.

So is the league inferior or not pre-2010. Why should we disregard the Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, and Kobe era? If all these guys and the league itself was inferior, then why not focus on post 2010 and make two different all-time lists?

I never disregarding them you raging lunatic.

[HoopsNY]

I never disregarding them you raging lunatic.

Well are they inferior or not? If the Jordan era sucked, then what does that make the Kobe era? If they both were inferior given the times, then what does that say about the 80s in comparison to today? And you already said the 60s and 70s was the era of the "crash dummies."

So explain to us how pre-2010 is even regarded at all.

[8Ball]

-NEVER Lost in the 1st Round
-16x All Star
-16x All NBA
-13x All-NBA First Team
-1x Scoring champion
-3x Playoff Scoring Champion
-1x Assist champion
-6x All Defensive team
-4x NBA Champion
-9x Eastern Conference Chamion
-1x Western Conference Chamion
-4x Finals MVP (With 3 different teams)
-4x League MVP
-3x AP Athlete of the year*
-1x AP Athlete of the decade
-1x J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award
-1x USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year
-2x Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year*
-2x Olympic Gold Medalist
-3x All star Game MVP
-Won ROY

:applause:

*2020 Not yet awarded but good chance of winning another

The 16 All-NBA teams, 13 1st team All-NBA is the most impressive for me.

6 playoff runs with over 30 PER is also up there.

[SATAN]

Well are they inferior or not? If the Jordan era sucked, then what does that make the Kobe era? If they both were inferior given the times, then what does that say about the 80s in comparison to today? And you already said the 60s and 70s was the era of the "crash dummies."

So explain to us how pre-2010 is even regarded at all.

Nothing you say even makes sense. It's completely unhinged rambling. You really want to go there? Stop it. You're embarrassing yourself, rookie. Put the pipe down. I'm doing you a favor not running you off this board just from your "responses" in this thread.

[HoopsNY]

Nothing you say even makes sense. It's completely unhinged rambling. You really want to go there? Stop it. You're embarrassing yourself, rookie. Put the pipe down. I'm doing you a favor not running you off this board just from your "responses" in this thread.

So are you going to actually make an argument for once or just continue to ramble, then accuse others of "rambling"?

[3ball]

Lebron's longevity hurts him compared to Jordan because 4/17 < 6/15

It's simple math

If he gets 6 rings, he'll need 5 extra years and many team-hops to get there

[3ball]

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* 4 MVPs in 17 years < 5 in 15

* 4 rings in 17 years < 6 in 15


So Jordan was more dominant

Lebron's standard is top 15 scorer and no all-defense.. Jordan's standard is #1 scorer and 1st team defense... aka jordan was much more dominant

[8Ball]

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* 4 MVPs in 17 years < 5 in 15

* 4 rings in 17 years < 6 in 15


So Jordan was more dominant

Lebron's standard is top 15 scorer and no all-defense.. Jordan's standard is #1 scorer and 1st team defense... aka jordan was much more dominant

Look's like Lebron will be getting the #1 spot on this list while Jordan is stuck at #5 for the rest of his life :applause:

1 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 38,387
2 Karl Malone 36,928
3 LeBRON JAMES 34,241
4 Kobe Bryant 33,643
5 Michael Jordan 32,292

[8Ball]

Lebron's longevity hurts him compared to Jordan because 4/17 < 6/15

It's simple math

If he gets 6 rings, he'll need 5 extra years and many team-hops to get there

LeBron 13 All-NBA 1st teams.

Jordan only has 10.

Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron :applause:

[3ball]

LeBron 13 All-NBA 1st teams.

Jordan only has 10.

Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron :applause:

Lebron was MVP and all-defense from 09-13' (4 years)

Jordan from 88-98' (11 years)

[8Ball]

Lebron was MVP and all-defense from 09-13' (4 years)

Jordan from 88-98' (11 years)

LeBron FMVP 2012 and 2020
Jordan FMVP 91 and 98

Looks like LeBron's prime runs longer than Jordan did. :applause:


Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron

[3ball]

LeBron FMVP 2012 and 2020
Jordan FMVP 91 and 98

Looks like LeBron's prime runs longer than Jordan did. :applause:


Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron

Lebron hasn't been all-defense or won MVP in 7 years when he was 28

So he doesn't compare to Jordan, who was MVP and 1st team defense from 25 to 35 years old

[Ghost1]

3x collusion
2x finals sweep
2x finals loss by record margin
1x 2011
1x lockout ring
1x silver ring
1x summer league ring
1x ray allen ring
0-1 against air conditioner
letiny flash on national television
throwing teammates under the bus
getting your coaches fired

:bowdown::lol

[8Ball]

Lebron hasn't been all-defense or won MVP in 7 years when he was 28

So he doesn't compare to Jordan, who was MVP and 1st team defense from 25 to 35 years old

LeBron All-NBA 1st team 13x

Jordan All-NBA 1st team 10x

All-NBA teams >>>>>>> All Defence and it ain't even close. Marcus Smart made 1st team All-Defence in 2020 yet he isn't even a top 40 player in the league.


Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron.

[72-10]

this thread is unprecedented

[3ball]

LeBron All-NBA 1st team 13x

Jordan All-NBA 1st team 10x

All-NBA teams >>>>>>> All Defence and it ain't even close. Marcus Smart made 1st team All-Defence in 2020 yet he isn't even a top 40 player in the league.


Jordan's lack of longevity hurts him against LeBron.

Jordan won MVP at 35 years old, so he maintained MVP-caliber for an 11-year period (88-98'), compared to 4 years for lebron (09-13')

Jordan was also top 5 DPOY from 88-98' (every year).. So Jordan was MVP and DPOY-caliber for 11 years (88-98'), compared to 4 years for lebron (09-13')

[SATAN]

So are you going to actually make an argument for once or just continue to ramble, then accuse others of "rambling"?

Look at this shit. All you do is whine, complain and attack people. You're MUCH WORSE than the LeBron fam you cry about. Only ever seen you discuss basketball in any meaningful way in ONE thread. Otherwise you just look for arguments and act like a child who's toys have been taken away. How about actually offer something to talk about (in coherent English) instead of attacking people and then wondering why they aren't copy and pasting basketball reference for you? Just shut the **** up, you stupid, stupid little ****.

This ****in' guy :facepalm

[Bronbron23]

it would be nice if you could just appreciate greatness and stop player bashing. this thread isn't about michael or even named him, no need to be insecure

Its just not true though though. Dont be mad at me be mad at the truth.

[Axe]

So are you going to actually make an argument for once or just continue to ramble, then accuse others of "rambling"?
Lol it's kinda funny that this is what you get in return for responding to him calmly; blatant trolling, probably his usual shtick to deflect your questions because he couldn't make any counterargument whatsoever, moreso when he doesn't agree with your point.

[HoopsNY]

Look at this shit. All you do is whine, complain and attack people. You're MUCH WORSE than the LeBron fam you cry about. Only ever seen you discuss basketball in any meaningful way in ONE thread. Otherwise you just look for arguments and act like a child who's toys have been taken away. How about actually offer something to talk about (in coherent English) instead of attacking people and then wondering why they aren't copy and pasting basketball reference for you? Just shut the **** up, you stupid, stupid little ****.

This ****in' guy :facepalm

So let's see.

1) I attack others
2) I don't type in coherent English
3) I've only discussed anything meaningful in one thread

Okay buddy. Carry on.

[HoopsNY]

Lol it's kinda funny that this is what you get in return for responding to him calmly; blatant trolling, probably his usual shtick to deflect your questions because he couldn't make any counterargument whatsoever, moreso when he doesn't agree with your point.

Yea, pretty much. I usually pose questions on this forum that are never answered. Just look at the questions I posed to 1987_Lakers. They were all left unanswered.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron:
2004 - choked the gold medal away
2006 - choked the gold medal away
2007 - choked and swept the title away
2008 - choked the gold medal away
2008 - bailed out by kobe in the gold medal game
2010 - Quit
2011 - choked the finals away
2012 - prime colluded ring
2012 - lockout ring
2013 - prime colluded ring
2013 - bail out by ray allen
2014 - choked the finals away to an air conditioner
2014 - Quit
2015 - choked the finals away shooting 25% beyond 5 feet vs a role player
2016 - choked game 7 away in the last 5 minutes
2016 - bail out by kyrie irving
2016 - prime colluded ring
2017 - choked game 3 away and the series
2018 - choked game 1 of OT and game 3 away
2018 - Quit
2019 - No Playoffs with the winniest franchise all time.
2020 - Anthony Davis leads teams in Win Shares and Scoring.

[TheCorporation]

Lebron:
2004 - choked the gold medal away
2006 - choked the gold medal away
2007 - choked and swept the title away
2008 - choked the gold medal away
2008 - bailed out by kobe in the gold medal game
2010 - Quit
2011 - choked the finals away
2012 - prime colluded ring
2012 - lockout ring
2013 - prime colluded ring
2013 - bail out by ray allen
2014 - choked the finals away to an air conditioner
2014 - Quit
2015 - choked the finals away shooting 25% beyond 5 feet vs a role player
2016 - choked game 7 away in the last 5 minutes
2016 - bail out by kyrie irving
2016 - prime colluded ring
2017 - choked game 3 away and the series
2018 - choked game 1 of OT and game 3 away
2018 - Quit
2019 - No Playoffs with the winniest franchise all time.
2020 - Anthony Davis leads teams in Win Shares and Scoring.

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